It's funny to me that every time a game that actually deserves the award, it's rigged. I swear these people just want the same games every time, and they wonder why people appreciate those games more.
They're welcome to cope. I personally think they should follow my example and stop watching award shows and taking reviewers and heavily-monetized events seriously regarding their favorite games. It's not like anyone else's opinion truly matters if your own mind is made up. And that being said, I adore BG3. Best RPG I have ever played, because it's a REAL RPG, built off of Dungeons and Dragons. I hate D&D but I make exceptions for studios which deserve to win after the tribulations they endured. Much like I hate Harry Potter but Avalanche was suffering under different publishers and finally could make a game with passion. A studio that breathes life into their games should defy all odds. These are the people I want to keep making these experiences regardless of IP.
heard about it a week ago from my friend, the game looks like Witcher 3 with a gameplay like chess and warcraft camera pov. he tells me to look for goty this year, and here i am now.
If player's choice award picked the same GOTY, then you know its legit, because how rare it is for both gamers & the industry to have commonality in the first place.
Baldur’s Gate 3 is unironically a contender for Top Ten Games of All Time. Any game where you can beat a necromancer to death with his own full health zombie has to be considered.
@@JohnSmith-rr3jtwell it has been in early access for two years before it came out and people were already obsessed. I don't see it dying down any time soon. That doesn't change how impressive it is as a game. I'm not sure why people hate on games
Oh shit, Nintendo fanboys lost their mind too? I was so busy enjoying Playstation fanboys crying about how rigged the awards were that I didnt even notice 🤣
@khightofjustice2828Zelda became a trending topic after his defeat by the children crying over his defeat and cursing the awards and Baldur's gate 3. They've been the saltiest by far.
They crying about a game they never even played or seen. Im a nintendo fan, but if that game won there must be reason (I didn‘t knew baldurs gate 3 until now). I dont even understand how people can be upset about a fucking game hahaha
@khightofjustice2828My dude, BG3 is a game of choice. If you get beared (or tentacled) in BG3 is because something deep inside you made you act in a way that got you boned hard. So if you have to blame someone for specific sexual content in the game, blame yourself :p As for popularity... don't bank on it. The previous game from Larian was Divinity Original Sin 2, and it is more or less considered a cult classic.. in fact, exactly one year after release Larian dropped the definitive edition, completely free for anyone who already owned the game, and they kept adding stuff like GM mode. If they do the same for BG3, modders are going to be creating free content and additional campaigns for years to come.
when bg3 came out, game producers literally came out with statements saying they don't want to be held to the new standard Larian is setting you know bg3 was gonna sweep, never heard anything like that for other games this year
@@jpebrz Why would they? Unless it's another Wild West open world game, no AAA studio is selling less because RDR2 exists. It's a very good game but Wild West open world games aren't really the focus of AAA studios,. You take away the Wild West there's not much left in RDR2 besides a good story, which you can always make regardless of the game. BG3 and ER got them worried sick because it went against devs philosophies, one with the amount of content and mechanics, the other with the lack of hand holding and accessibility which has been making modern games braindead and yet everyone loved it.
Ah yes Larian Studio has so much money to rig the GOTY awards to the point that the studio almost closed before and even the CEO had some point couldn't afford gas. Truly the multi-billionaire company that could rig it.
And in 2020 the awards were rigged by Sony to get TLOU 2 to win. Why didn't Sony also pay up to have Spider Man 2 win? One of the biggest IPs out there
I'm not of the opinion that they rigged TLOU2 to win. I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but it also is evident that those involved with the event adore that game. If people are THIS upset that game reviewers and award shows have differing opinions from them, then maybe they should stop watching them. I did half a decade ago and I haven't had any interest to watch them since. I play what I want to play, no need to gripe over it unless it's categorically not a winner in most regards *cough*Bethesda*cough*
@ItchiestBum I don't actually think Sony rigged the awards. I just always see that from the hate that TLOU 2 gets. So it's just funny that they claim it's rigged by Sony yet Sony wouldn't do the same thing for Spider Man this year 🤔
As a huge TOTK fan, I feel like the majority of us are just sitting in the corner happily with our best action/adventure award while watching spider man fans cry and baldur's gate fans clown on them for it
@@Tofu6969 It's mostly just toxic BG3 fans hoping to rub it into everyone's faces (as if they helped make the game) even though anyone who wasn't delusional knew it was going to win GOTY
@@PervySage723 That's not entirely fair, Larian and MS made good faith efforts to find a solution, it just wasn't possible. And props to MS for having the guts to relax their rules enough for the game to come out. (Yes, I'm aware that was pretty much inevitable, because they wanted the sales, but the fact remains I'm sure they knew some people would complain about it.) I actually experienced things from the other side. People were screaming about not getting it because supposedly they made a deal with Sony, and those of us with common sense all were like, "They're just having technical problems. Relax, it will be out as soon as possible."
To everyone else that sees this comment, i remind you all the people who are saying bg3 is good are either bots, or people who where payed to say the game is good, they had to make it beleivable so they payed thousands of people to create accounts and say the game is good on social media, they did this so people think its just them that dont know the game and not everyone else, but in reality no one even knew that was a thing. Even "real gamers" have no idea what the hell is that.
The famous "who even knows this game" who actually sold more copies than the rest. And seeing how many people still play it on steam it's not dying down either.
Imagine how much better it would be if the people who have never heard of bg3 were just like, “oh, a game I’ve never heard of won GOTY? It’s a shame that my favourite game this year didn’t win but that must mean bg3 was a great game, maybe I should check it out!”
Sadly, campfire is right. Humans are so beholden to tribalism and attacking that which they cannot understand. They'd sooner cope for years on end than give anything new a chance. I just would prefer they ignored it and played the games they like instead, but hey I'm not fully against them throwing negativity into the mix. It'll make contrarian people that find that behavior childish want to get the game more. Bad press is still press, and they're feeding it without realizing. Considering that, I think I'm done discussing Starfield with anyone anymore. Nothing more needs to be said on that topic and letting lethargy win might get Bethesda to wake up and make games with depth again, like they used to... Or not. Really can't tell with them anymore.
Playing Baldur’s Gate 3 was the biggest breath of fresh air I’ve had in gaming for a LONG time. Honestly when I first heard about it I was kinda turned off if anything. Turned off for the same reason these people criticize it; the turn based combat. But when I saw what others could do in the game, and the huge amount of player freedom, and the literal narrative sandbox that is bg3, I had to try for myself. AND OH GOD!!! Stepping out of my comfort zone made me discover a game that I now consider to be in my all times top 3 (at first place) I feel like these people (in the video) are the reason we get the shitty games in the industry, they always want the same thing, and when a slightly unconventional type of game stands out from the mass they dislike it instantly instead of giving it a try. Honestly, to anyone considering buying the game, DO IT. You have 10x your moneys worth, with literal unlimited hours of content. Bg3 will keep me entertained far longer than any other AAA out there. Money ABSOLUTELY well spent 👍
I gotta say, I fully agree that turn-based RPGs are a rarity for me. And because it's D&D I didn't have much intention of playing it. But then a buddy got me Divinity Original Sin 2 and we played it to get in the spirit for BG3's release. I was thoroughly perplexed by everything I could do, and it really helped that I had someone with me that knew how to use the system well. If I didn't have him I likely never would have given Larian a chance myself. I'll bet these haters didn't have friends that were into this genre so they soured on it instead of giving it a chance. Most of them didn't even get the game and think they have authority over it's quality when they don't even know. That's human tribalist nature on full display :) One day they might get over themselves and give it a go, but until then I really don't care much for what they say when they don't even like the genre.
@@MorfsProwerme at least, I cannot get into these type of games. I didn’t even heard about Baldur’s Gate 3 until the game awards and that’s saying a lot about it. Was there even a huge marketing push for this game? Is anybody buying this? Is this game even selling well? Just by looking at this game, it just looks like your typical generic Dungeons and Dragons clone and I’m not even into the whole D&D thing since it’s a very niche genre. Maybe I’m too cynical but this is gets a huge pass for me.
@@luisquintero7359 I don't even play it at all lately, since I've been so sucked into Vintage Story. However, I still hold the sentiment that this game is great and a testament to the full potential of a turn-based tactical RPG. To answer your questions... There was not much of a marketing push at all in fact. It spread generally by word of mouth apart from the common TH-camr coverage. People bought this game to death during it's launch window, so it made off pretty well despite having to buy into Hasbro's D&D setting from their own coffers. What sets this apart from the rest of the D&D clones is the fact that the sheer creativity you can employ to problem solve situations is kinda crazy. I've seen people stack boxes to form giant climbing towers to sequence break the game. I've seen people set chain explosions to clear entire regions of enemies. The versatility and variety the game has to offer is better than all the prior entries in the genre as a whole. But I perfectly get it if it's not a game for you. Hell, it's not a genre for me either, but I gave this game gigantic exceptions because it was so well done. And bear in mind, I really despise Hasbro, WotC, and the D&D brand in general. They stifle creativity in the face of it, and even attempted to rob creatives of their own work for their own gain. I really can't stand D&D and WotC. The tabletop RPG genre has a lot of fantastic alternatives though, and it's that creativity that I return to it for time and again. To the point where I made my own system for use amongst friends, which can be used for any setting and any design, and I've been working on a number of settings for friends to play. It really isn't for everyone, as I've found out the hard way lol.
So... a turn based game is bad and out of date but a Spider-Man game that's basically the same game we played almost 20 years ago but with shinier graphics is not.. 😂🤣
Industry is shifting away from formulaic crap. BG3 was an incredible feat that spat in the face of the suits that control studios and what type of games they are allowed to make.
Both Spider-Man 2 and Baldur's Gate 3 being nominated was a feat within itself. Like the Oscars, the game awards are just a bunch of journalists that pick what they like. Licensed superhero games almost never get nominated and CRPGs are considered too niche. Both being nominated several times and for GOTY is a major credit to both games
Seriously. In an atmosphere of corpos, it really is a breath of fresh air when games come out that aren't beholden to corporate cowardice. Let the creatives create, let the players play. And let the suits that don't know shit about even finances pick the corn out of their own shit.
Those who espouse that Spiderman should have won are so biased by PlayStation. The game can be completed in a weekend and is so linear for an open world game.
@@dumbbumsc5329what do you mean woke bg3 is really "woke" and that's the strength of the game with lots of freedom, choices and you don't have to follow standard norms. Are you calling spiderman man woke because his new suit would be riddled with holes by the real life NYPD
@@tracey9888 I’d use “woke” in the term used when referring to to very progressive views being pushed on the player in SM2. It’s not unbearable but way worse than BG3. The only thing I’ve dealt with so far is immediately choosing what bit my male/female character has. Personally I’m tired of that. And the writing and story for SM2 was worked on by “Sweet Baby Inc” which really hurt the game. The story beats were all there but changing things for the sake of “inclusiveness” (despite them STILL usuing the wrong flag and forcing their “Gender Neutral Spanish” dub is ridiculously disappointing and disrespectful. Peter, harry, and miles were not given the time or character development they deserved. All being pushed to the side (Especially Peter) for the sake of those god awful MJ missions. We got those instead of possibly Venom free roam and Venom missions. So that’s my issue with the “woke” being shoehorned into the game. BG3 is fine so far, besides the very easy seduction of literally every party member. That is infuriatingly frustrating when I’m just trying to be a good person and everyone is throwing themselves at me. And the weird beastiallity shit with the bear transformation scene. Also I’m gonna assume your referencing police brutality and not saying Miles would be shot at for his ethnicity. Or just the fact Mile’s new suit is….well it’s definitely different lol
And the funny thing is the fanboy crying "who even played this game" from the number I've seen (take it with a grain of salt) BG sold 4 times more copies than Spiderman.
Remember when all of the ponies were using Steam player counts to console war because the delayed launch on Xbox made it an "exclusive" according to them? Now they are salty that their "exclusive" did not win GOTY.
@@V3ntilator they do double or triple usually. PC userbase is significantly larger than most consoles (except the Switch) but more distributed. A game like BG3 probably gets a lions share of its action on PC.
@@brilobox2Yeah. I think BG 3 released first on PC a long time ago too. Some games does best on PC like Starfield too which will have over 10 years of modding on PC.
@@liljay300000 The full modding toolkit hasn't be released yet. I'd bet money (a small amount admittedly) that most of them will come back after the tools get the scene rolling.
Hot-take: Turn-based Combat is the height of gameplay. It requires thought, tactics, and stratagy rather than things like reflexes and reaction time, which are controlled by the amount of money the player can spend on their internet connection and computer setup.
What about games that you can play or are offline, which aren't affected by internet? Also what do you mean reflexes and reaction time are controlled by the internet and computer setup? Maybe I'm taking it too literally but the player's reaction and reflexes aren't affected, it's the game that it's slow, no? EDIT: I do agree that it requires thought, tactics and strategy, I wouldn't consider it the HEIGHT of gameplay since it's mostly subjective and everyone has their own tastes.
I'm a Nintendo (and PlayStation) fanboy myself and I did not lose my cool at all. Matter of fact, I expected Baldur's Gate 3 to be Game of the Year, and I'm cool with it because I am also a Dungeons & Dragons fan.
It's funny to me because when Baldur's Gate 3 came out Ponies were in agreement that it was a PS5 Timed Exclusive and now they cry that a game which they claimed was theirs won the game awards.
To me, the funniest part is the tweets that say some variation of who's even heard of/played that game. Like, with all the controversy over people saying it was the new standard, and developers publicly trashing it because of that, you pretty much had to be living under a rock to have not heard of it. If your YT feed was even remotely geared towards gaming, that algorithm was going to be showing you something about BG3. The hype was massive, and for once entirely fair and deserved.
The other reason is that it's a dig. Plain and simple, a dig. They are really that unaware and assumed that BG3 never caught on with everyone else just because THEY don't like the game or are uninterested in it. I think there's one reaction where the bro was saying Spiderman 2 is the "people's GOTY" when it can be easily disproved.
@@theduck2970 Yeah, and the best part about that guy's meltdown was Baldur's Gate took both GOTY *and* Player's Voice, which just proves him wrong instantly.
Ironically, the cries from industry developers were (more or less) the entire reason I tried BG3 to begin with, otherwise I likely never would've since the game type isn't my usual thing. Glad I did though, it definitely deserved to win GOTY. A game must be truly special to make competing studios publicly complain and plead to not be held to the same standards. Larion has won my heart with this game.
Ah, got into it by being contrarian eh? Not a bad thing these days when people screech so hard. It's hilarious that they have no idea that they're helping to market BG3 to even more people by being so resentful about it. It's eye-opening for me.
I don't understand the "turn-based = old" argument. Turn-based is fresh when AAA studios have been making the same games for years. Open world is getting old.
Lol, that tweet about how COD supposedly has the most open and welcoming community reflexively made me raise an eyebrow. What fucking stone have they been living under? 😂
Ignoring the people screeching about how BG3 was a “woke” choice (which like. grow up.) I’m someone who is as picky as you described. I stay in my little box of preferred devs and well known franchises and I don’t branch out much. I had zero intention of playing BG3 but my roommate wanted to play together and I can only say I am SO GLAD I did, I’m so glad I was forced out of that comfort zone because it gave me one of the best fucking games I’ve ever played. No game has surprised me so pleasantly and, quite frankly, made me feel like a fucking *idiot* for not giving it a chance sooner.
'Yu-Gi-Oh would not hit the same if both players could throw cards out whenever they wanted to.' That's actually the state of the game right now, so much so you can basically play a whole turn on your opponents turn.
@@demonhunterx7094 tear I will give you but kash can only summon off of prep and shangri ira unless you mean arise heart effect constantly activating but that’s not really playing during your turn it is just how that card is designed
It's different strokes for different folks, I adore it, but I'm a dnd nerd, I'd say Gove it a try, it's a blast if you like roleplay and lots of numbers on the screen, good dopamine if I do say so myself and I'm only like 15 hours in
Can tell you that I'm also a zelda fan, and at the start of the year I was convinced Nintendo would take game of the year with TotK since the game is really good.. but then baldurs gate 3 came out and honestly, while TotK is really good, baldurs gate 3 is a leap ahead. The game tries to emulate this feeling of curiosity as you play. It doesn't try to limit you. Choices genuinely matter, even combat does. If you fail to save an NPC that npc is gone. You failed to save them and thats part of your story. Or if you really dislike one npc you can choose to attack them. Or you could try to talk your way out of it and try to avoid killing. Have fun playing it and try to bring a friend along for the ride. Its a multiplayer game as well.
Alright, what the first guy said is a massive disservice to BG3. I’d look up videos about BG3. There’s plenty of crazy things you can do for something that’s a “turned base clicking talking dialogue simulator”. Personally recommend 4 halfling barbarians if you really want to see how chaotic the game can be if you really want it to be.
God I loved that video. It showed me the true devastating might of well placed explosives lmao Dialogue simulator my ass lol it's way more than a Visual Novel. It's a great time having a friend throw me around like I'm Gimli and using the environment to style on foes.
You can absolutely tell 90% of these “people” didn’t even touch or play the game. Anyone actually play through BG3 knew it was going to sweep the awards.
A game with the battle style they don't like/prefere wins, them: "The world is going backwards". Ah yes, gods forbid a different game is allowed to win when it's battle system isn't identical to all the other contestents 🙄 after all, animation, looks, voice acting, multiple! choice options, character creation, story and replayability doesn't matter as long as the game doesn't use a real time battle system 🙄
Honestly, as a programmer i'm not suppried that devs at AAA studios are afraid of the "new standard" set by balders gate 3 either they literally thought of every outcome described or there are a lot of systems that are working in synergy inside a story template (a system being like; gravity - oil and get wet; - NPC states ; - fire that spreads etc)
These shows are always rigged until their favorite game wins GOTY. It's the same in sports where every championship is rigged. All I can say is the amount of thought and planning that goes into rigging all these events is impressive. Everyone knows even though Ponies tried to claim BG3 as theirs after the delay on Xbox and yet here they are asking who played it. This shows how closed minded some console fanboys are.
To everyone else that sees this comment, i remind you all the people who are saying bg3 is good are either bots, or people who where payed to say the game is good, they had to make it beleivable so they payed thousands of people to create accounts and say the game is good on social media, they did this so people think its just them that dont know the game and not everyone else, but in reality no one even knew that was a thing. Even "real gamers" have no idea what the hell is that.
@@kyo_.._. Most saying BG3 is good are the PC community who were supporting the game long before it came to consoles. Everyone knows consoles gamers don't care for games like BG3 or Divinity Original Sin. They don't have the massive marketing hype and lifelike AAA graphics that console gamers flock to.
@@mynameismud-qd9vu true and not to say here in England I pay for spider man 2 like 70£ to expensive for 13 - 14 h, I don't count the cinematics because it's gonna be less and I bought as well bg3 for 50£ and played almost 150h only on act 1 + it's have value replay
First and most importantly. Props for the ds2 gameplay, hope you enjoy that one. Secondly the amount of people complaining about a game having turn based combat says sow much about them Edit: loved the linkin park reference
He will enjoy it till it starts giving him the typical BS DS2 is known for. He is playing the non scholar version so it will be less stressful experience for him.
@LordLentils true ds2 has always been considered the worst darksouls game. But considering I've always liked it, well let's just say I don't really care if other people don't. As to the "sudden" love for the game. I don't see where you got that from
If I actively used twitter, I'd probably have replied to some of them with "Woah, I've never heard of Spider-Man 2 before" or replace that with Tears of the Kingdom, would have been funny to see their reactions
I think the funniest part is that Spiderman wasnt even in the top 3 of votes. In any other year with BG3 out of the picture, SM2 would still have lost to AW2 and TotK.
Larian deserves the win. 2017: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2018: God of War 2019: Sekiro: Shadow Die Twice 2020: The Last of Us Part 2 2021: It Takes Two 2022: Elden Ring 2023: Baldur's Gate 3 Every year, these games deserve the award on that year. They made waves across the internet; whether good or bad, these games solidified a change from the mundane. Like those fanboys who did not expect Baldur's Gate 3 to win, it was a massive shockwave over the internet when developers said not to think that would be a standard. It is not a standard in gaming; however, I approve of Larian Studio's way of releasing the game. They took their time and released early access for those willing to pay for the privilege of playing the game early. Meanwhile, they took their time, changed the game, listened to players' feedback, and dared to say, "Nah, it's your game," with No DLC, no microtransaction, no loot box, no game as a service/online only, no stupid grind...etc. Larian Studio respects its customers and is willing to change the game's ending to give closure to each party member the player has in camp. Usually, other companies would make this a paid DLC if it were another company. Remember Bioware selling you the "true ending" as paid DLC? I understand BG3 is not for everyone, but I fully respect Larian for showing the industry how to treat its customers. Unlike Blizzard/Activision, EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Bungie, and many more, if you mess with your customers, the customer will drop you off for someone who will treat them better. All these games stood out from the rest and gave publishers and developers what the customer craved; they stood out from the others. Games are amazing, but when publishers are pumping out mediocrity, we will forget them or not, and we will not be all that excited for a sequel. Look at the GTA 6 trailer, a game series that gets one release every 4 to 5, maybe ten years. The anticipation of a good game alone is enough to get people excited. Unlike Assassin's Creed, CoD, and EA Sports, these games are just ... meh. It would be different if they were released every 4 to 5 years. Knowing the developers have time to build the game, bug test, playtest, and make the community, their game will have long legs to stand on. PS. Also, congratulations to CD Projekt for turning things around with Cyberpunk 2077/Phantom Liberty. Typically, a game would remain broken and count their losses, but no, they dig deep, spend more on Cyberpunk 2077, and deliver a masterpiece of a DLC. It is the same with Hello Games for making No Man's Sky from a meme game to a groundbreaking labor of love. Both of these companies did an exceptional job. Instead of giving us mediocre games and running to the bank laughing like other companies we know of.
for 2018 people at least agree it was between RDR2 and GoW, even if the end result tend to divide. but for 2020 ? lmfao, even if there were a second place for goty, TLoU2 wouldn't deserve it.
Maybe TLOU2 did deserve an award, who knows? I didn't play it nor have any intention of doing so. I'm not going to be like these coping sad boys and make claims about a game I didn't play; I'll be honest and just say it's not my thing. See how easy that is? People are so bent out of shape over not winning an award they aren't even getting themselves. Why are they so desperate for secondhand validation when they already have the games they like? That's what is truly pathetic about all this. These kids are not mature yet and likely won't be for a very long time. Here's hoping though.
Ironically, I'm a huge Zelda fan, but I'm happy TOTK didn't win. I actually don't like the new BOTW style formula they've come up with, I definitely preferred the older games like Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask.
Ps gamer here! Im at around my 7th run with this game and if it werent obvious enough im in love with this game. I was a bit worried before buying because im personally not a fan of rpg's like it but its quality and the amazing devs and the story is just incredible! Absolutely deserved the win!
Another PS gamer here! I’m in the beginning of ACT 2 and I’m loving it. To me the most intimidating part was the combat (not the turn-based bit) and the fact that it is complex and I would consider myself a casual gamer. I however LOVE story based games, especially if there is branching involved, also character creation is really good imo
In my experience totk players and bg3 players are sitting in the corner having a peaceful discussion and Spider-Man players are planning a nuclear war 15 feet away
I never actually played the Baldur's Gate series in general (mostly because my ass wasn't even living around that time) but the fact that it got game of the year makes me lowkey wanna try it
Do ittt. It's honestly one of the best games i've ever played. When I started playing, I went in thinking it was just another game I would play for maybe a week or 2 and then forget about it. But here I am 4 months later and still playing, LOL. So yes, definitely worth it c:
You really should give it a try. It was my very first turn-based experience as well and now it became my favourite game of all time. 1. BG3 2. The Witcher 3 3. Red Dead Redemption 2
I hadnt heard anything about its release till it was almost out and i remember going. Oh cool after all these years theyre bringing back the bg series. It felt refreshing to have something that hadnt been milked into oblivion too look forward to. Spiderman was just more of the same tired old formula. sm2 was the equivilent of a themepark rollercoaster it had a few highs but once the track ended you sit there thinking did i stand in line for 45minutes just for that.
It's weird that they claim no one played Baldur's Gate 3, when it also won player's choice. By definition of that reward, the players outvoted whatever game they claim should be game of the year. Which in turn, means people played the game.
As someone who didn’t watch the awards, hasn’t played any of this year’s big 3 yet, and doesn’t normally play turn-based games, I’m happy Baldur’s Gate 3 won. Even I can say it clearly seems deserved. This was an entertaining video, though, lol
The contradictions and lack of self awareness always gets me with this stuff lol. You had the Xbox fanboys accusing the industry and the awards of anti Xbox bias and PS fanboys saying there's no such thing. Now that their favorite game was nominated for 7 awards and won none, there's anti PlayStation agenda when in reality there's a much bigger wider library of games and studios making games outside of console manufacturers competing as well and maybe there was just strong competition with many good games this year.
I didn't know baldur's gate existed before it won game of the year but unlike others I wasn't salty and instead it peaked my curiosity. "What's all the hype about?" I'd ask myself as I bought the game. Now I'm 50 hours in and I'm enjoying my time with the game. Now I understand why it won.
If anything it gave me hope that it wasn't rigged, I thought spiderman 2 would win just cuz it checks all the diverse boxes and pushes the current message
@@LicoriceLain But it doesn't do it for the woke points, that's the difference. BG3 says "let's have a dwarf because this a fantasy world". Spider-Man 2 says "let's have some deaf black chick with her own side mission because ethnic + disability = woke representation"
@@InhabitantOfOddworldI have to agree that kinda ticked me off I mean I love the game and I continued to play it and replay it but after release and hearing their direction for the franchise I’m worried and with adding more woke agendas it won’t even be a game anymore
@@DisruptorCSMBG3 is far more woke-able than spiderman 2 yet no one really complained, because it's woven into the narrative a lot better than what spiderman 2 did. It just felt... right, natural
Spider-Man 2 was okay, but it's no Baldur's Gate 3. Also if you take into account everything wrong with Spider-Man 2, here's a few reasons why i think spider man 2 didn't get game of the year... *terrible latinx spanish dub. *the mary jane missions. *the injection of lgbtq+ stuff. *the fact that you play as a deaf girl. *mary jane is made to look like one of the insomniac writers, and insomniac denying the face they changed her character model. *mary jane and broken op stun gun *Bryan Intihar is not listening to player feedback. *the face that you only play with venom for a short amount of time. *the game at launch had a ton of bugs *having a good chunk of spider-man's rogues gallery giving up the ghost at the hands of kraven. It wouldn't surprise me if they make silk a lesbian in the next game, and make peter give up the ghost in the 3rd game.
No, what would have been rigged, is if the Indie Dev Game that was objectively better than its competition Lost to some big-game-studio title with a lot less love, innovation, and effort in it.
I didn't know Buldur's Gate 3 even existed, and that's why I'm happy that this game won the award. This just shows that somethings don't have to be popular to achive something.
Very true. Marketing doesn't always equate to popularity, but man it goes a long way if you can get word out in ways other than by vocal opinion. I can see why people assume it's not popular, though. Larian has always been a quiet underdog.
Majority of the gamers agree that Baldur's gate 3 is GOTY even if they did not play the game or not their prefered type of game coz we recognize a great game when we see and experience one. 😊
@rodolfobejerano3930 it was biased opinion youre talking about they obviously rig that game award lol, what fact is bg3 was an outdated turned base type of game with improved visuals that game didnt offer anything new unique, it was dragon age inquisition and warcraft dota rip off looking like games with worst outdated mechanics
"name a game with a more rich story and accepting community than COD" damn it must be nice to live in fantasy land, the little I've played/seen people play COD there were so many slurs thrown around that I started to feel my mental health rapidly declining
Honestly, even though I liked Alan Wake 2 a lot and remedy in general are really great and good sport developers like Larian, BG3, did deserve and needed to win this awards. Not only because it was an amazing game, but also because it was a slap on the face of a lot of giant developers and publishers (especially the comments of Larian). And I loved it because you could see and hear that slap loud enough not only by the fans but also directly on their face. And it was music to my ears and also removed the itch from my hands (BG3 was the first game I bought on release). Great video BTW.
I'm loving the bought and paid for argument, when on release these big companies went in to panic mode and tried to imply BG3 was an anomaly because they put the work in and we shouldn't expect that from them.
As a fan of turnbased games. these people come out every time there is a successful one. They actually can't handle not every successful game being specifically for them. They also lack the basic reasoning to realise that not everyone likes the same thing
They need to take the advice I have: just play your games, ignore the fancy corporate bullshit, and have fun. Stop watching award shows and reviewers whom likely don't share the same sentiments, because everyone has different tastes. It just makes you mad for literally no good reason. I stopped watching E3 several years ago, and awards shows always left a sour taste in my mouth. Games are meant to be fun, not to be second day jobs that you feel obligated to rabidly defend when it's not winning some petty awards. People thinking some genres are lesser than others have some issues they don't know how to parse. I have preferential choices in game genres myself; BG3 is not one of them. But it's genre-breaking. It is more than just some turn based clicker, like some people cope with. The fact that people which don't like the turn based RPG genre are finding the game to be incredible is a good sign that Larian is doing something right, and they are. Belittling their players only makes the bullies look weak and petty.
As a guy who played TotK, Spider-Man 2, AND Alan Wake 2... Baldurs Gate 100% deserved it. Spider man 2 fans thinking it deserved GotY when it was (in my opinion) dead last on the overall list. TotK was a definite close second overall. I'm not a fan of turn based games besides when I played Civilization 5 and card games, but it was the best gaming experience I've ever played, EVER.
I love this argument "I've never heard of the game, so nobody plays it" 😂 Baldur's Gate 2 still is my favorite game (had it on 5 discs plus 1 for the expansion, played it so much one of the discs got scratched beyond working) and I'm happy to see that BG3 is just as fun (if not more). If you never heard of the game then it's your problem. Salty people are entertaining.
Whatever flaws baldur's gate may have had, when the developers show so much passion and care in making and patching the game that i have so much respect for larian studios
I am the tweet at 4:55. To be clear, I voted for Baulders Gate and was playing Devil’s Advocate for Spiderman. As I said in replies, Spiderman being a PS5 exclusive (a console that limited people have access to) is one of many reasons the voting power of Spiderman was lacking I don’t care about what game was actually better. A bad game could win game of the year if votes are overwhelmingly. I was just saying Spiderman could have outvoted if they had more players. That is a fact.
I love how people just wtrie off Turn based games , even though it's one of the ONLY ways to add real difficulty without just inflating health. And plus a turn based game can give you access to WAY more options than a real time game.
@@neoconker2k8 no, because it’s fun and has many ways to only play your opponents and well as factoring in your ability to predict and/or plan out the actions of your enemies to account for you own
@volktol4432 That's turn based games in general , and most have MUCH more depth than chess . Chess is amazing game that I agree but it's definitely less engaging/entertaining IMO
I'm casting shade now on Square Enix. Didn't someone at Square say they had to walk away from turn based for Final Fantasy? And now a turn based game racked in so many awards. Maybe Square should go back to turn based.
Still doubt Square Enix will ever make a mainline turn based FF game again. It's gonna be Octopath, Bravely Default, or Dragon Quest if you want turn based Square Enix games from now on unfortunately.
They are at the low end of AAA size and budget (with Tencent investment) but they are officially independant, since they are not publicly traded, that the CEO majority owns the company and that they are self published. So they have all the creative and production power, no external pressures.
You can immediately tell you’re talking to a mouthbreathing fanboy that didn’t even play the game because the only things they can say about it are ‘lE bEAr sCeNe’ and ‘tUrN bAsEd LoL’
@@apimb1396for someone like me who has never played a D&D game. Do you think I should buy it? My Last Turn based Game i have played was Disciples 2 (20 years ago)
BG3 fully deserved every award it got. I am not a D&D fan or a turn based combat fan and I spent (and continue to spend) dozens of hours in BG3 enjoying the game.
That’s not what most mean by it shouldn’t of won goty. The categories where Spider-Man 2 won NOTHING were rigged. Alan wake 2 was a random game that came out of nowhere that most people had no idea was gonna have a sequel.
I mean hell, my GOTY (among the nominees, at least) was TOTK, but to think BG3 doesn't deserve the W the biggest hit of copium Ive seen in a good while (And if we wanna talk snubs, Entropy Effect shouldve gotten a nominnation at the very least, but thats just me)
*proceeds to look up Entropy Effect Oh, it's a BlazBlue game, right? Normally I'm not into roguelikes, but this one looks intereting. I wouldn't necessarily call it a snub for this year as apparently it's schedled to come out of early access next year. So there's still a chance for it to get recognized in 2024. *wishlisted
@@TheScruffySkull BlazBlue started as a 2D fighting game, but that aspect of the franchise seems to be dormant (likely due to Guilty Gears success) And honestly, the fact that it's a Rogue-like isn't even why I like it. It's just a very solid 2D action game. Honestly, even if that is in your wheelhouse, this game is 100% worth your time This is probably the first Rogue-like I've personally seen that makes even the failed runs be to your benefit (something I think games like Hades doesn't really do all that well) with stuff like Legacy Skills and passive buffs I can go on, but I think I got my point across. Just wish the game would have a steeper sale than 12%
@@themagetone4184Nobody has the time to play every single game, and its 100% valid for each of us to have our own preferences. But to go from there to bashing something they haven't played and have no clue whether is good enough to be goty material is outright retarded. I was hoping this nonsense came from some kids throwing a tantrum because they don't know better.. but no, these were grown a** adults paying $8 a month for X blue. Which ironically explains a lot...
I have heard some amazing cope about BG3 getting GOTY, like some seriously ridiculous shit allow me to share a few: "No one has heard of this game. I know REAL gamers and they never even heard of this game.", "It's Raid: Shadow Legends with better graphics.", "It's just a mobile game.", "How can a turn-based game even exist today?", "It's a dead game.", "No big TH-camrs played this game.", "The combat is just random trash, how can that be considered fun?", "Your main character can't even talk!" "Only nerds played this!" And so, SO much more but you get the point. Some wild and potent copium was used after the game awards lol.
I'm just glad that Sea of Stars won Best Independent Game. It's a fantastic game that I adore with all my heart, one that I've waited years for after playing The Messenger.
I was skeptical of the baldurs gate gameplay since I never played a game of that type of style but then got it and love it alot, I think people just see turned base and think thats boring=bad game
Same can be said if Elden ring and BG3 came out the same time and BG3 won Goty over Elden Ring people would be losing their shit.. over the results of course that didn't happen..it would've been interesting conversation if both came out same year..
@@jameslough6329 ER open world is great, but its lacking compared to the full dynamic world of RDR2, that evolves as you keep playing, every NPC having its own daily routine, world physics and mechanics, wildlife and emergent gameplay.
@@aerus3446 True, but Elden Ring's open world is WAY more open ended in terms of how you approach it gameplay wise. RDR2 gives you the illusion of being open, but the main story quests are all extremely linear and need to be done in a specific order. There are even markers on your map pointing exactly where you need to go for the next quest and the entire map is visible from the beginning of the game so it never feels like you are actually exploring the world of your own volition. Elden Ring on the other hand allows you to make your own markers for places that look interesting on the map and allows you to explore the world in whatever order you want (for the most part). Areas of the map also unlock organically as you explore them rather than the entire map being visible from the start. In lamon's terms, RDR2 feels like an interactive movie set in a huge world. Elden Ring feels like an adventure set in a huge world. One is clearly more fun to play
While I personally have problems with BG3, it's not my personal best of year because of said problems, I won't claim it doesn't deserve it. Yeah, I preferred Zelda, but I honestly don't care that it didn't win Game of the Year. I'm also of the mindset that remakes do deserve to be nominated for game of the year... because being a remake doesn't automatically guarantee success, it guarantees comparison to the older version, and the better the older version is, the more the new one needs to work. Resident Evil 4 Remake took what was already a monumental game, and took it to the next level. The only nomination I didn't agree with was Spiderman 2. That was such a safe, pandering game that I was surprised it got as high as it did. But, if you asked me my personal "Best game of the year", I think I'd have to go with Remnant 2. Phenomenal game. Indie game of the year goes to Cassette Beasts hands down. edit: As for setting a standard, the only one I'll agree with is that games should be launched in their full state. BG3 launched after 3 years of Early Access. You can say it launched complete because they had 3 years to dial things in and add things while receiving money and feedback from players. BG3 did not launch out of nowhere, it was playable since 2020. Many feature adds and changes were made since then.
@@Vamparina413 Which is why Act 3 was super buggy. Doesn't really matter, the game was playable for 3 years and getting very valuable feedback from community members. And purchasable. I've got 0 issues with Early Access titles, my top 2 most played Steam games, totally 700+ hours, are early access titles. I'm just saying that BG3 didn't "come out of nowhere to destroy the gaming industry". I'm just saying that it 1 - was in Early Access, and 2 - is essentially Larian Studio's formula of games but D&D. Divinity Original Sin 2 has many of the things people are praising BG3 for, but nobody cared for that game for some reason... And again, not to discredit BG3, it's a good game. I just think people are praising it a little too hard.
"turn based games won game of the year, the state of the industry" Ah yes, because a game that lasts 10 hours and has half of the runtime in cutscenes and qtes, which is actually the standard currently, is somehow better than a turn based games with 90% gameplay and hundreds of hours of playtime.
I initially wasn’t a fan of turn-based games except for Pokémon, but a few months ago I tried One Piece Odyssey and it really warmed me up to the idea of turn-based games
turn based has got me pumped right now though. Yakuza: Like a Dragon was good. SEa of Stars was fine. Like a Dragon: Infinite wealth Demo plays good....I'm super pumped for that. I enjoyed Like a Dragon a lot as turn based. I'll play bg3 one day,. My brother in Law bought a Steam Deck to pretty much just play BG3 on instead of his work laptop. LOL Dude isn't even a gamer. LOL So who played it? A shit ton of people. Even people who aren't "gamers" came out to play it, That's actually what makes things successful is when it breaks out of the box.
It came out last year but I'd recommend chained echoes as well. A bit older the league of legends ruined king game and then the devs older game battle chasers nightwar
I was sad pikmin didn't take best family game cus pikmin needs all the publicity it can get but mario is just so popular that even tho pikmin 4 is a much better game than wonder it couldn't win
@@zacharybecker8228 "Best Community" category were equally bad. BG 3, Cyberpunk and Destiny 2 had nothing to do in that category. Destiny 2 were in a way not mis-placed, but everyone knows the community support sucks in that game.
People saying it's not "game of the year caliber" is crazy. Acting as if it's not in the discussion for best game of this century. Absolutely wild takes.
It's funny to me that every time a game that actually deserves the award, it's rigged. I swear these people just want the same games every time, and they wonder why people appreciate those games more.
Because they aren't real gamers. They are casuals who only like the Sony formula. And Nintendo simps.
@@LicoriceLainIt's why game journalists always rate Sony games so high, they hold their hands and and can be beat in a few hours
The only award I can think that was clearly rigged was TLOU2 winning.
@@GreenWolf2k The fans didn't even like the game
@@GreenWolf2kword 😂
It's hilarious how they try and argue both "No one plays or ever heard about Baldurs Gate 3" and it "Has a wider audience" at the same exact time
And the sales numbers for Baldur's Gate 3 are actually way off. They probably sold almost twice as many copies
They're welcome to cope. I personally think they should follow my example and stop watching award shows and taking reviewers and heavily-monetized events seriously regarding their favorite games. It's not like anyone else's opinion truly matters if your own mind is made up.
And that being said, I adore BG3. Best RPG I have ever played, because it's a REAL RPG, built off of Dungeons and Dragons. I hate D&D but I make exceptions for studios which deserve to win after the tribulations they endured. Much like I hate Harry Potter but Avalanche was suffering under different publishers and finally could make a game with passion. A studio that breathes life into their games should defy all odds. These are the people I want to keep making these experiences regardless of IP.
heard about it a week ago from my friend, the game looks like Witcher 3 with a gameplay like chess and warcraft camera pov.
he tells me to look for goty this year, and here i am now.
If player's choice award picked the same GOTY, then you know its legit, because how rare it is for both gamers & the industry to have commonality in the first place.
So basically The Golden Joystick where Larian took home 6 awards, including GOTY?
@@solblackguy And not only did they won GOTY at one event but did so on all 5 major awards, something that no one has done so before.
Baldur’s Gate 3 is unironically a contender for Top Ten Games of All Time. Any game where you can beat a necromancer to death with his own full health zombie has to be considered.
It's also the only game that I know of where you can kill your enemy by calling him a cuck.
GOTY material.
No, it really isn't. Wait 1 year and see how people feel after the hypetrain is dead and buried lol.
this is going to age like milk@@JohnSmith-rr3jt
@@JohnSmith-rr3jt like elden ring? oh wait
@@JohnSmith-rr3jtwell it has been in early access for two years before it came out and people were already obsessed. I don't see it dying down any time soon. That doesn't change how impressive it is as a game. I'm not sure why people hate on games
Oh shit, Nintendo fanboys lost their mind too?
I was so busy enjoying Playstation fanboys crying about how rigged the awards were that I didnt even notice 🤣
@khightofjustice2828Zelda became a trending topic after his defeat by the children crying over his defeat and cursing the awards and Baldur's gate 3. They've been the saltiest by far.
@khightofjustice2828 Thanks for proving my point XD.
@khightofjustice2828 - A very pathetic comment. I'd be ashamed If i posted this.
They crying about a game they never even played or seen. Im a nintendo fan, but if that game won there must be reason (I didn‘t knew baldurs gate 3 until now). I dont even understand how people can be upset about a fucking game hahaha
@khightofjustice2828My dude, BG3 is a game of choice. If you get beared (or tentacled) in BG3 is because something deep inside you made you act in a way that got you boned hard. So if you have to blame someone for specific sexual content in the game, blame yourself :p
As for popularity... don't bank on it. The previous game from Larian was Divinity Original Sin 2, and it is more or less considered a cult classic.. in fact, exactly one year after release Larian dropped the definitive edition, completely free for anyone who already owned the game, and they kept adding stuff like GM mode.
If they do the same for BG3, modders are going to be creating free content and additional campaigns for years to come.
when bg3 came out, game producers literally came out with statements saying they don't want to be held to the new standard Larian is setting
you know bg3 was gonna sweep, never heard anything like that for other games this year
Yeah not even read dead 2 got producers worried about new standards
@@jpebrzand I thought RDR2 got robbed of GOTY but I wasnt sitting and crying on twitter about it
Yeah. The AAAs are getting lazy. Hopefully BG3 whips them into shape and they start making GOOD stuff again
@@jpebrz Why would they? Unless it's another Wild West open world game, no AAA studio is selling less because RDR2 exists. It's a very good game but Wild West open world games aren't really the focus of AAA studios,. You take away the Wild West there's not much left in RDR2 besides a good story, which you can always make regardless of the game. BG3 and ER got them worried sick because it went against devs philosophies, one with the amount of content and mechanics, the other with the lack of hand holding and accessibility which has been making modern games braindead and yet everyone loved it.
Ah yes Larian Studio has so much money to rig the GOTY awards to the point that the studio almost closed before and even the CEO had some point couldn't afford gas. Truly the multi-billionaire company that could rig it.
And in 2020 the awards were rigged by Sony to get TLOU 2 to win.
Why didn't Sony also pay up to have Spider Man 2 win? One of the biggest IPs out there
@@josh043p6Is this suppose to be a gotcha or do you actually think Sony bought out the 2020 awards?
I'm not of the opinion that they rigged TLOU2 to win. I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but it also is evident that those involved with the event adore that game.
If people are THIS upset that game reviewers and award shows have differing opinions from them, then maybe they should stop watching them. I did half a decade ago and I haven't had any interest to watch them since. I play what I want to play, no need to gripe over it unless it's categorically not a winner in most regards *cough*Bethesda*cough*
@ItchiestBum I don't actually think Sony rigged the awards. I just always see that from the hate that TLOU 2 gets.
So it's just funny that they claim it's rigged by Sony yet Sony wouldn't do the same thing for Spider Man this year 🤔
TLoU 2 won because its story was a leftists fever dream
As a huge TOTK fan, I feel like the majority of us are just sitting in the corner happily with our best action/adventure award while watching spider man fans cry and baldur's gate fans clown on them for it
Yeah and we get dragged into it out of nowhere for no reason sometimes by the BG3 community 💀
@@Tofu6969 It's mostly just toxic BG3 fans hoping to rub it into everyone's faces (as if they helped make the game) even though anyone who wasn't delusional knew it was going to win GOTY
@@jayniir-pd8jl yep and I’m glad it won but dang it’s crazy how toxic most communities can get lol
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"Who played that game even?" Sony fanboys wouldn't know, they don't play games.
They were bragging it was a Sony exclusive too.
@@Kingofdragons117basically was cause xbox couldnt get their shi together lmao
@@PervySage723 That's not entirely fair, Larian and MS made good faith efforts to find a solution, it just wasn't possible. And props to MS for having the guts to relax their rules enough for the game to come out. (Yes, I'm aware that was pretty much inevitable, because they wanted the sales, but the fact remains I'm sure they knew some people would complain about it.)
I actually experienced things from the other side. People were screaming about not getting it because supposedly they made a deal with Sony, and those of us with common sense all were like, "They're just having technical problems. Relax, it will be out as soon as possible."
@@moonwatcher99 thats true. I respect it
To everyone else that sees this comment, i remind you all the people who are saying bg3 is good are either bots, or people who where payed to say the game is good, they had to make it beleivable so they payed thousands of people to create accounts and say the game is good on social media, they did this so people think its just them that dont know the game and not everyone else, but in reality no one even knew that was a thing. Even "real gamers" have no idea what the hell is that.
Spiderman 2 sold 5 million copies
Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sold 19.5 million copies
Baldur's Gate 3 sold 22+ million copies.
'nuff said.
The famous "who even knows this game" who actually sold more copies than the rest. And seeing how many people still play it on steam it's not dying down either.
how much copies did hogwarts legacy selled ?
Imagine how much better it would be if the people who have never heard of bg3 were just like, “oh, a game I’ve never heard of won GOTY? It’s a shame that my favourite game this year didn’t win but that must mean bg3 was a great game, maybe I should check it out!”
This isn't human nature
Sadly, campfire is right. Humans are so beholden to tribalism and attacking that which they cannot understand. They'd sooner cope for years on end than give anything new a chance. I just would prefer they ignored it and played the games they like instead, but hey I'm not fully against them throwing negativity into the mix. It'll make contrarian people that find that behavior childish want to get the game more. Bad press is still press, and they're feeding it without realizing.
Considering that, I think I'm done discussing Starfield with anyone anymore. Nothing more needs to be said on that topic and letting lethargy win might get Bethesda to wake up and make games with depth again, like they used to...
Or not. Really can't tell with them anymore.
Nah don’t buy it I bought it on my PS5 and it’s shit, you would not like to pay for that shit, rigged af
Sure timmy@@user-xi4fl5uv4p
@@user-xi4fl5uv4pI have a PS5 as well and yet I BG3 works good for me and is a blast to play with.
Playing Baldur’s Gate 3 was the biggest breath of fresh air I’ve had in gaming for a LONG time. Honestly when I first heard about it I was kinda turned off if anything. Turned off for the same reason these people criticize it; the turn based combat. But when I saw what others could do in the game, and the huge amount of player freedom, and the literal narrative sandbox that is bg3, I had to try for myself. AND OH GOD!!! Stepping out of my comfort zone made me discover a game that I now consider to be in my all times top 3 (at first place)
I feel like these people (in the video) are the reason we get the shitty games in the industry, they always want the same thing, and when a slightly unconventional type of game stands out from the mass they dislike it instantly instead of giving it a try. Honestly, to anyone considering buying the game, DO IT. You have 10x your moneys worth, with literal unlimited hours of content. Bg3 will keep me entertained far longer than any other AAA out there. Money ABSOLUTELY well spent 👍
100% this. I was skeptical when I went in but absolutely blown away. Reminds me of the way games used to be. 🥹
I gotta say, I fully agree that turn-based RPGs are a rarity for me. And because it's D&D I didn't have much intention of playing it.
But then a buddy got me Divinity Original Sin 2 and we played it to get in the spirit for BG3's release. I was thoroughly perplexed by everything I could do, and it really helped that I had someone with me that knew how to use the system well. If I didn't have him I likely never would have given Larian a chance myself.
I'll bet these haters didn't have friends that were into this genre so they soured on it instead of giving it a chance. Most of them didn't even get the game and think they have authority over it's quality when they don't even know. That's human tribalist nature on full display :)
One day they might get over themselves and give it a go, but until then I really don't care much for what they say when they don't even like the genre.
@@MorfsProwerme at least, I cannot get into these type of games. I didn’t even heard about Baldur’s Gate 3 until the game awards and that’s saying a lot about it. Was there even a huge marketing push for this game? Is anybody buying this? Is this game even selling well? Just by looking at this game, it just looks like your typical generic Dungeons and Dragons clone and I’m not even into the whole D&D thing since it’s a very niche genre. Maybe I’m too cynical but this is gets a huge pass for me.
@@luisquintero7359 I don't even play it at all lately, since I've been so sucked into Vintage Story. However, I still hold the sentiment that this game is great and a testament to the full potential of a turn-based tactical RPG.
To answer your questions...
There was not much of a marketing push at all in fact. It spread generally by word of mouth apart from the common TH-camr coverage.
People bought this game to death during it's launch window, so it made off pretty well despite having to buy into Hasbro's D&D setting from their own coffers.
What sets this apart from the rest of the D&D clones is the fact that the sheer creativity you can employ to problem solve situations is kinda crazy. I've seen people stack boxes to form giant climbing towers to sequence break the game. I've seen people set chain explosions to clear entire regions of enemies. The versatility and variety the game has to offer is better than all the prior entries in the genre as a whole.
But I perfectly get it if it's not a game for you. Hell, it's not a genre for me either, but I gave this game gigantic exceptions because it was so well done.
And bear in mind, I really despise Hasbro, WotC, and the D&D brand in general. They stifle creativity in the face of it, and even attempted to rob creatives of their own work for their own gain. I really can't stand D&D and WotC.
The tabletop RPG genre has a lot of fantastic alternatives though, and it's that creativity that I return to it for time and again. To the point where I made my own system for use amongst friends, which can be used for any setting and any design, and I've been working on a number of settings for friends to play. It really isn't for everyone, as I've found out the hard way lol.
Only Skull Island: Rise of Kong deserved to win GOTY.
"But-but, what about Gollum and The Day Before???" 🤣
@@deadmanshand4138nah, clearly the walking dead destinies should have won.
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walking dead destlines should've been goty istg
The only true opinion.
Monke strong
So... a turn based game is bad and out of date but a Spider-Man game that's basically the same game we played almost 20 years ago but with shinier graphics is not.. 😂🤣
Hey you get to spam X for 12h and sometimes even the O button ! Thats a wonder of gameplay
Industry is shifting away from formulaic crap. BG3 was an incredible feat that spat in the face of the suits that control studios and what type of games they are allowed to make.
Both Spider-Man 2 and Baldur's Gate 3 being nominated was a feat within itself. Like the Oscars, the game awards are just a bunch of journalists that pick what they like. Licensed superhero games almost never get nominated and CRPGs are considered too niche. Both being nominated several times and for GOTY is a major credit to both games
Seriously. In an atmosphere of corpos, it really is a breath of fresh air when games come out that aren't beholden to corporate cowardice. Let the creatives create, let the players play. And let the suits that don't know shit about even finances pick the corn out of their own shit.
Those who espouse that Spiderman should have won are so biased by PlayStation. The game can be completed in a weekend and is so linear for an open world game.
It’s unreal how diehard set the woke crowd is willing to die on the hill that it’s “The perfect game ever created”
@@dumbbumsc5329what do you mean woke bg3 is really "woke" and that's the strength of the game with lots of freedom, choices and you don't have to follow standard norms.
Are you calling spiderman man woke because his new suit would be riddled with holes by the real life NYPD
@@tracey9888 I’d use “woke” in the term used when referring to to very progressive views being pushed on the player in SM2. It’s not unbearable but way worse than BG3.
The only thing I’ve dealt with so far is immediately choosing what bit my male/female character has. Personally I’m tired of that. And the writing and story for SM2 was worked on by “Sweet Baby Inc” which really hurt the game.
The story beats were all there but changing things for the sake of “inclusiveness” (despite them STILL usuing the wrong flag and forcing their “Gender Neutral Spanish” dub is ridiculously disappointing and disrespectful. Peter, harry, and miles were not given the time or character development they deserved. All being pushed to the side (Especially Peter) for the sake of those god awful MJ missions. We got those instead of possibly Venom free roam and Venom missions. So that’s my issue with the “woke” being shoehorned into the game.
BG3 is fine so far, besides the very easy seduction of literally every party member. That is infuriatingly frustrating when I’m just trying to be a good person and everyone is throwing themselves at me. And the weird beastiallity shit with the bear transformation scene.
Also I’m gonna assume your referencing police brutality and not saying Miles would be shot at for his ethnicity. Or just the fact Mile’s new suit is….well it’s definitely different lol
@@dumbbumsc5329I’m very confused because I’m not used to seeing people on either side use the word woke and also make good points at the same time
And the funny thing is the fanboy crying "who even played this game" from the number I've seen (take it with a grain of salt) BG sold 4 times more copies than Spiderman.
Alan Wake 2 took home way more awards than I expected
I swear it came out so late in the year too
@@anthonybanks3479 Yeah, same. Honestly thought it was going to be held over for next years rewards.
Remember when all of the ponies were using Steam player counts to console war because the delayed launch on Xbox made it an "exclusive" according to them? Now they are salty that their "exclusive" did not win GOTY.
The problem with using Steam stats is that they don't include Game Pass or console stats which could double or triple the users
@@V3ntilator they do double or triple usually. PC userbase is significantly larger than most consoles (except the Switch) but more distributed. A game like BG3 probably gets a lions share of its action on PC.
@@brilobox2Yeah. I think BG 3 released first on PC a long time ago too. Some games does best on PC like Starfield too which will have over 10 years of modding on PC.
@@V3ntilator I wouldn't say that a lot of the large Bethesda modders have started to say they have stopped development for Starfield mods
@@liljay300000 The full modding toolkit hasn't be released yet. I'd bet money (a small amount admittedly) that most of them will come back after the tools get the scene rolling.
Hot-take: Turn-based Combat is the height of gameplay. It requires thought, tactics, and stratagy rather than things like reflexes and reaction time, which are controlled by the amount of money the player can spend on their internet connection and computer setup.
What about games that you can play or are offline, which aren't affected by internet?
Also what do you mean reflexes and reaction time are controlled by the internet and computer setup? Maybe I'm taking it too literally but the player's reaction and reflexes aren't affected, it's the game that it's slow, no?
EDIT: I do agree that it requires thought, tactics and strategy, I wouldn't consider it the HEIGHT of gameplay since it's mostly subjective and everyone has their own tastes.
So dude smashed his TV and now his wife and kids are crying. Sounds like a great person really :x
I'm a Nintendo (and PlayStation) fanboy myself and I did not lose my cool at all. Matter of fact, I expected Baldur's Gate 3 to be Game of the Year, and I'm cool with it because I am also a Dungeons & Dragons fan.
Respect, friend. Thanks for being mature, it's nice to see that when the industry's community is so volatile and tribalistic.
Industries don't represent the common people, they do whatever gives them money, even if they have to throw common sense in the trash.
It's funny to me because when Baldur's Gate 3 came out Ponies were in agreement that it was a PS5 Timed Exclusive and now they cry that a game which they claimed was theirs won the game awards.
By their logic. Since Microsoft helped out with getting Xbox port done, Xbox won it's 6 awards too..
@@V3ntilatorDon't be coy, MS being involved is why Starfield won absolutely nothing, them not being involved helped Larian won GOTY.
Bro what. Imagine the pettiness.
I didn’t even know it was on ps5 before Xbox but I can’t imagine being a bitch over it lmao
@@V3ntilatorBased. Everyone wins but Nintendo ig
To me, the funniest part is the tweets that say some variation of who's even heard of/played that game. Like, with all the controversy over people saying it was the new standard, and developers publicly trashing it because of that, you pretty much had to be living under a rock to have not heard of it. If your YT feed was even remotely geared towards gaming, that algorithm was going to be showing you something about BG3. The hype was massive, and for once entirely fair and deserved.
The other reason is that it's a dig. Plain and simple, a dig. They are really that unaware and assumed that BG3 never caught on with everyone else just because THEY don't like the game or are uninterested in it. I think there's one reaction where the bro was saying Spiderman 2 is the "people's GOTY" when it can be easily disproved.
@@theduck2970 Yeah, and the best part about that guy's meltdown was Baldur's Gate took both GOTY *and* Player's Voice, which just proves him wrong instantly.
Ironically, the cries from industry developers were (more or less) the entire reason I tried BG3 to begin with, otherwise I likely never would've since the game type isn't my usual thing. Glad I did though, it definitely deserved to win GOTY. A game must be truly special to make competing studios publicly complain and plead to not be held to the same standards. Larion has won my heart with this game.
Ah, got into it by being contrarian eh? Not a bad thing these days when people screech so hard. It's hilarious that they have no idea that they're helping to market BG3 to even more people by being so resentful about it. It's eye-opening for me.
I don't understand the "turn-based = old" argument. Turn-based is fresh when AAA studios have been making the same games for years. Open world is getting old.
Lol, that tweet about how COD supposedly has the most open and welcoming community reflexively made me raise an eyebrow. What fucking stone have they been living under? 😂
it's a meme
Ignoring the people screeching about how BG3 was a “woke” choice (which like. grow up.) I’m someone who is as picky as you described. I stay in my little box of preferred devs and well known franchises and I don’t branch out much. I had zero intention of playing BG3 but my roommate wanted to play together and I can only say I am SO GLAD I did, I’m so glad I was forced out of that comfort zone because it gave me one of the best fucking games I’ve ever played. No game has surprised me so pleasantly and, quite frankly, made me feel like a fucking *idiot* for not giving it a chance sooner.
'Yu-Gi-Oh would not hit the same if both players could throw cards out whenever they wanted to.' That's actually the state of the game right now, so much so you can basically play a whole turn on your opponents turn.
This, right here. You don't even have duels anymore, you have a coin toss to see who goes first, otherwise known as who wins.
I don't understand why they don't just reboot the game. It used to be ancient Egyptian monsters and now it's anime girls and mechs.
Can you name a deck that does that which is also goodoutside of r-ace
@@bizzareswordsman1232 i've had kashteara and tearlaments use my turn as theirs.
@@demonhunterx7094 tear I will give you but kash can only summon off of prep and shangri ira unless you mean arise heart effect constantly activating but that’s not really playing during your turn it is just how that card is designed
As a Zelda fan I was a little sad that it didn't win GOTY but at least it won something, I might try out BG3
If you play zelda then you might get bored on bg3, it's turned base clicking talking dialogue simulator.
It's different strokes for different folks, I adore it, but I'm a dnd nerd, I'd say Gove it a try, it's a blast if you like roleplay and lots of numbers on the screen, good dopamine if I do say so myself and I'm only like 15 hours in
Can tell you that I'm also a zelda fan, and at the start of the year I was convinced Nintendo would take game of the year with TotK since the game is really good.. but then baldurs gate 3 came out and honestly, while TotK is really good, baldurs gate 3 is a leap ahead. The game tries to emulate this feeling of curiosity as you play. It doesn't try to limit you. Choices genuinely matter, even combat does. If you fail to save an NPC that npc is gone. You failed to save them and thats part of your story. Or if you really dislike one npc you can choose to attack them. Or you could try to talk your way out of it and try to avoid killing. Have fun playing it and try to bring a friend along for the ride. Its a multiplayer game as well.
Alright, what the first guy said is a massive disservice to BG3. I’d look up videos about BG3. There’s plenty of crazy things you can do for something that’s a “turned base clicking talking dialogue simulator”. Personally recommend 4 halfling barbarians if you really want to see how chaotic the game can be if you really want it to be.
God I loved that video. It showed me the true devastating might of well placed explosives lmao
Dialogue simulator my ass lol it's way more than a Visual Novel. It's a great time having a friend throw me around like I'm Gimli and using the environment to style on foes.
You can absolutely tell 90% of these “people” didn’t even touch or play the game. Anyone actually play through BG3 knew it was going to sweep the awards.
A game with the battle style they don't like/prefere wins, them: "The world is going backwards". Ah yes, gods forbid a different game is allowed to win when it's battle system isn't identical to all the other contestents 🙄 after all, animation, looks, voice acting, multiple! choice options, character creation, story and replayability doesn't matter as long as the game doesn't use a real time battle system 🙄
Honestly, as a programmer i'm not suppried that devs at AAA studios are afraid of the "new standard" set by balders gate 3
either they literally thought of every outcome described or there are a lot of systems that are working in synergy inside a story template
(a system being like; gravity - oil and get wet; - NPC states ; - fire that spreads etc)
These shows are always rigged until their favorite game wins GOTY. It's the same in sports where every championship is rigged. All I can say is the amount of thought and planning that goes into rigging all these events is impressive. Everyone knows even though Ponies tried to claim BG3 as theirs after the delay on Xbox and yet here they are asking who played it. This shows how closed minded some console fanboys are.
Everything is rigged to some degree. You'd have to be an ignorant moron to not know that.
To everyone else that sees this comment, i remind you all the people who are saying bg3 is good are either bots, or people who where payed to say the game is good, they had to make it beleivable so they payed thousands of people to create accounts and say the game is good on social media, they did this so people think its just them that dont know the game and not everyone else, but in reality no one even knew that was a thing. Even "real gamers" have no idea what the hell is that.
@@kyo_.._. Most saying BG3 is good are the PC community who were supporting the game long before it came to consoles. Everyone knows consoles gamers don't care for games like BG3 or Divinity Original Sin. They don't have the massive marketing hype and lifelike AAA graphics that console gamers flock to.
@mynameismud-qd9vu imagine paying $70 to play a movie (nothing wrong with that) but get upset when someone like a game you dont.
@@mynameismud-qd9vu true and not to say here in England I pay for spider man 2 like 70£ to expensive for 13 - 14 h, I don't count the cinematics because it's gonna be less and I bought as well bg3 for 50£ and played almost 150h only on act 1 + it's have value replay
Larian rigged the game awards by spending years and millions of dollars making a brilliant game.
Can't wait for the harman smith salt since Zelda didn't win
Can’t wait
A shame it still got 1 award I was hoping for zero awards for it
He's already whinging about it on his channel.
Yass
@oystersoup3434 it's now going to live rent free in Harmon's head in the same place as elden ring.
First and most importantly. Props for the ds2 gameplay, hope you enjoy that one.
Secondly the amount of people complaining about a game having turn based combat says sow much about them
Edit: loved the linkin park reference
He will enjoy it till it starts giving him the typical BS DS2 is known for. He is playing the non scholar version so it will be less stressful experience for him.
Ah, the usual and sudden love people start conjuring up for terrible games a certain time after their release.
@@LordLentils what are you talking about?
@@Hugin.Muninn I'm talking about the fact that DS2 was heavily shit on when it came it out and now suddenly everyone thinks it's a good game.
@LordLentils true ds2 has always been considered the worst darksouls game. But considering I've always liked it, well let's just say I don't really care if other people don't.
As to the "sudden" love for the game. I don't see where you got that from
If I actively used twitter, I'd probably have replied to some of them with "Woah, I've never heard of Spider-Man 2 before" or replace that with Tears of the Kingdom, would have been funny to see their reactions
They are already complaining. that Bethesda is making marvel blade game.
They don’t want anyone without a PS to to have good exclusive games lol
@@andyscoming4919 true
I think the funniest part is that Spiderman wasnt even in the top 3 of votes. In any other year with BG3 out of the picture, SM2 would still have lost to AW2 and TotK.
As of today, the approximate sales of BG3 is 21 Million copies sold.
I'll let the numbers speak for themselves.
"no one knows about this game" says SM2 with 5mln copies about BG3 with 22+mln copies (and came on Xbox AFTER TGA)
Larian's networth is estimated to be around $113m~ meanwhile sony sitting at $110b~ totally out bought sony to win
Larian deserves the win.
2017: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
2018: God of War
2019: Sekiro: Shadow Die Twice
2020: The Last of Us Part 2
2021: It Takes Two
2022: Elden Ring
2023: Baldur's Gate 3
Every year, these games deserve the award on that year. They made waves across the internet; whether good or bad, these games solidified a change from the mundane.
Like those fanboys who did not expect Baldur's Gate 3 to win, it was a massive shockwave over the internet when developers said not to think that would be a standard. It is not a standard in gaming; however, I approve of Larian Studio's way of releasing the game.
They took their time and released early access for those willing to pay for the privilege of playing the game early. Meanwhile, they took their time, changed the game, listened to players' feedback, and dared to say, "Nah, it's your game," with No DLC, no microtransaction, no loot box, no game as a service/online only, no stupid grind...etc. Larian Studio respects its customers and is willing to change the game's ending to give closure to each party member the player has in camp.
Usually, other companies would make this a paid DLC if it were another company. Remember Bioware selling you the "true ending" as paid DLC? I understand BG3 is not for everyone, but I fully respect Larian for showing the industry how to treat its customers. Unlike Blizzard/Activision, EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Bungie, and many more, if you mess with your customers, the customer will drop you off for someone who will treat them better.
All these games stood out from the rest and gave publishers and developers what the customer craved; they stood out from the others.
Games are amazing, but when publishers are pumping out mediocrity, we will forget them or not, and we will not be all that excited for a sequel. Look at the GTA 6 trailer, a game series that gets one release every 4 to 5, maybe ten years. The anticipation of a good game alone is enough to get people excited. Unlike Assassin's Creed, CoD, and EA Sports, these games are just ... meh. It would be different if they were released every 4 to 5 years. Knowing the developers have time to build the game, bug test, playtest, and make the community, their game will have long legs to stand on.
PS. Also, congratulations to CD Projekt for turning things around with Cyberpunk 2077/Phantom Liberty. Typically, a game would remain broken and count their losses, but no, they dig deep, spend more on Cyberpunk 2077, and deliver a masterpiece of a DLC. It is the same with Hello Games for making No Man's Sky from a meme game to a groundbreaking labor of love. Both of these companies did an exceptional job. Instead of giving us mediocre games and running to the bank laughing like other companies we know of.
Tlou 2 is rigged we all know it
for 2018 people at least agree it was between RDR2 and GoW, even if the end result tend to divide.
but for 2020 ? lmfao, even if there were a second place for goty, TLoU2 wouldn't deserve it.
Maybe TLOU2 did deserve an award, who knows? I didn't play it nor have any intention of doing so. I'm not going to be like these coping sad boys and make claims about a game I didn't play; I'll be honest and just say it's not my thing.
See how easy that is? People are so bent out of shape over not winning an award they aren't even getting themselves. Why are they so desperate for secondhand validation when they already have the games they like? That's what is truly pathetic about all this. These kids are not mature yet and likely won't be for a very long time. Here's hoping though.
166th Zelda game didn't win GOTY!? Oh noes, it's the apocalypse!
Ironically, I'm a huge Zelda fan, but I'm happy TOTK didn't win. I actually don't like the new BOTW style formula they've come up with, I definitely preferred the older games like Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask.
@@moonwatcher99 Yeah, Majora’s Mask is the GOAT Zelda game
Ps gamer here! Im at around my 7th run with this game and if it werent obvious enough im in love with this game. I was a bit worried before buying because im personally not a fan of rpg's like it but its quality and the amazing devs and the story is just incredible! Absolutely deserved the win!
It’s an amazing game. I discover new stuff every day. Not to mention that the voice acting was top tier.
Another PS gamer here! I’m in the beginning of ACT 2 and I’m loving it. To me the most intimidating part was the combat (not the turn-based bit) and the fact that it is complex and I would consider myself a casual gamer. I however LOVE story based games, especially if there is branching involved, also character creation is really good imo
In my experience totk players and bg3 players are sitting in the corner having a peaceful discussion and Spider-Man players are planning a nuclear war 15 feet away
I never actually played the Baldur's Gate series in general (mostly because my ass wasn't even living around that time) but the fact that it got game of the year makes me lowkey wanna try it
Do ittt. It's honestly one of the best games i've ever played. When I started playing, I went in thinking it was just another game I would play for maybe a week or 2 and then forget about it. But here I am 4 months later and still playing, LOL.
So yes, definitely worth it c:
You really should give it a try.
It was my very first turn-based experience as well and now it became my favourite game of all time.
1. BG3
2. The Witcher 3
3. Red Dead Redemption 2
Do it
Dew it!
I hadnt heard anything about its release till it was almost out and i remember going. Oh cool after all these years theyre bringing back the bg series. It felt refreshing to have something that hadnt been milked into oblivion too look forward to. Spiderman was just more of the same tired old formula. sm2 was the equivilent of a themepark rollercoaster it had a few highs but once the track ended you sit there thinking did i stand in line for 45minutes just for that.
It's weird that they claim no one played Baldur's Gate 3, when it also won player's choice. By definition of that reward, the players outvoted whatever game they claim should be game of the year. Which in turn, means people played the game.
As someone who didn’t watch the awards, hasn’t played any of this year’s big 3 yet, and doesn’t normally play turn-based games, I’m happy Baldur’s Gate 3 won. Even I can say it clearly seems deserved. This was an entertaining video, though, lol
The contradictions and lack of self awareness always gets me with this stuff lol. You had the Xbox fanboys accusing the industry and the awards of anti Xbox bias and PS fanboys saying there's no such thing. Now that their favorite game was nominated for 7 awards and won none, there's anti PlayStation agenda when in reality there's a much bigger wider library of games and studios making games outside of console manufacturers competing as well and maybe there was just strong competition with many good games this year.
I didn't know baldur's gate existed before it won game of the year but unlike others I wasn't salty and instead it peaked my curiosity. "What's all the hype about?" I'd ask myself as I bought the game. Now I'm 50 hours in and I'm enjoying my time with the game. Now I understand why it won.
If anything it gave me hope that it wasn't rigged, I thought spiderman 2 would win just cuz it checks all the diverse boxes and pushes the current message
The funny part is that BG3 is probably more diverse all things considered.
Makes you realize.. maybe only a certain demograph cares about something that should be common in this world like diversity.
@@LicoriceLain
But it doesn't do it for the woke points, that's the difference. BG3 says "let's have a dwarf because this a fantasy world". Spider-Man 2 says "let's have some deaf black chick with her own side mission because ethnic + disability = woke representation"
@@InhabitantOfOddworldI have to agree that kinda ticked me off I mean I love the game and I continued to play it and replay it but after release and hearing their direction for the franchise I’m worried and with adding more woke agendas it won’t even be a game anymore
@@DisruptorCSMBG3 is far more woke-able than spiderman 2 yet no one really complained, because it's woven into the narrative a lot better than what spiderman 2 did. It just felt... right, natural
Bg3 took the idea of "you can't consider every possibility a player can make." and said "no, but we can try!"
Spider-Man 2 was okay, but it's no Baldur's Gate 3. Also if you take into account everything wrong with Spider-Man 2, here's a few reasons why i think spider man 2 didn't get game of the year...
*terrible latinx spanish dub.
*the mary jane missions.
*the injection of lgbtq+ stuff.
*the fact that you play as a deaf girl.
*mary jane is made to look like one of the insomniac writers, and insomniac denying the face they changed her character model.
*mary jane and broken op stun gun
*Bryan Intihar is not listening to player feedback.
*the face that you only play with venom for a short amount of time.
*the game at launch had a ton of bugs
*having a good chunk of spider-man's rogues gallery giving up the ghost at the hands of kraven.
It wouldn't surprise me if they make silk a lesbian in the next game, and make peter give up the ghost in the 3rd game.
No, what would have been rigged, is if the Indie Dev Game that was objectively better than its competition Lost to some big-game-studio title with a lot less love, innovation, and effort in it.
I know will probably never happen, but I hope a grand strategy game wins GOTY someday just so we could see the funny meltdowns on twitter.
I didn't know Buldur's Gate 3 even existed, and that's why I'm happy that this game won the award. This just shows that somethings don't have to be popular to achive something.
Uh it’s extremely popular. Where have you been the last 6 months? Lol
@@chrisrhodes-dx8qw not playing games and having a life lol. Spider man was advertised a lot, BG3 wasnt
Very true. Marketing doesn't always equate to popularity, but man it goes a long way if you can get word out in ways other than by vocal opinion. I can see why people assume it's not popular, though. Larian has always been a quiet underdog.
Majority of the gamers agree that Baldur's gate 3 is GOTY even if they did not play the game or not their prefered type of game coz we recognize a great game when we see and experience one. 😊
So by your logic you win goty award by sympathy not the actual capabilities of the game lol its plain dumb
@@truthtruth9056 not sympathy but by objective facts supplied by other players and critics.
@rodolfobejerano3930 it was biased opinion youre talking about they obviously rig that game award lol, what fact is bg3 was an outdated turned base type of game with improved visuals that game didnt offer anything new unique, it was dragon age inquisition and warcraft dota rip off looking like games with worst outdated mechanics
@@truthtruth9056 rigged....? Yeah... i rest my case...
You win the argument... cheereeyohh my chap...
@@truthtruth9056turn-based is venerable, not outdated lol such a childish take
You could make bank in the copium business right now, a lot of people looking for a huff over baldur's gate 3 winning.
I'm just sitting back, enjoying the delicious salt, while I'm half way through my 2nd BG3 playthrough and just being so happy for Neil and Larian
Many people will try Baldur's Gate 3 because of the GotY, so I'm happy!
"name a game with a more rich story and accepting community than COD" damn it must be nice to live in fantasy land, the little I've played/seen people play COD there were so many slurs thrown around that I started to feel my mental health rapidly declining
Turn based games was the norm back in the days. Final fantasy started as a turned based only game. The same Final fantasy they cap for nowadays.
If Spiderman or TotK won their fans would have said “this was always going to happen, everyone who thinks otherwise are just haters”
Them losing it makes the fact that BG3 won GOTY even better. 😂 It's so funny.
Honestly, even though I liked Alan Wake 2 a lot and remedy in general are really great and good sport developers like Larian, BG3, did deserve and needed to win this awards. Not only because it was an amazing game, but also because it was a slap on the face of a lot of giant developers and publishers (especially the comments of Larian). And I loved it because you could see and hear that slap loud enough not only by the fans but also directly on their face. And it was music to my ears and also removed the itch from my hands (BG3 was the first game I bought on release). Great video BTW.
Spider man 2 was worse than the first
I'm loving the bought and paid for argument, when on release these big companies went in to panic mode and tried to imply BG3 was an anomaly because they put the work in and we shouldn't expect that from them.
As a fan of turnbased games. these people come out every time there is a successful one. They actually can't handle not every successful game being specifically for them. They also lack the basic reasoning to realise that not everyone likes the same thing
They need to take the advice I have: just play your games, ignore the fancy corporate bullshit, and have fun. Stop watching award shows and reviewers whom likely don't share the same sentiments, because everyone has different tastes. It just makes you mad for literally no good reason.
I stopped watching E3 several years ago, and awards shows always left a sour taste in my mouth. Games are meant to be fun, not to be second day jobs that you feel obligated to rabidly defend when it's not winning some petty awards.
People thinking some genres are lesser than others have some issues they don't know how to parse. I have preferential choices in game genres myself; BG3 is not one of them. But it's genre-breaking. It is more than just some turn based clicker, like some people cope with. The fact that people which don't like the turn based RPG genre are finding the game to be incredible is a good sign that Larian is doing something right, and they are. Belittling their players only makes the bullies look weak and petty.
I was so happy to see how Spider-Man 2 didn't win anything. That put a smile on my face.
These people just need to come out already and say they cant handle the thought power it takes to play turn-based
As a guy who played TotK, Spider-Man 2, AND Alan Wake 2... Baldurs Gate 100% deserved it.
Spider man 2 fans thinking it deserved GotY when it was (in my opinion) dead last on the overall list.
TotK was a definite close second overall.
I'm not a fan of turn based games besides when I played Civilization 5 and card games, but it was the best gaming experience I've ever played, EVER.
At the very least I knew BG3 was probably going to win "Best Role Playing Game", and I had very high hopes it was going to win GOTY.
I love this argument "I've never heard of the game, so nobody plays it" 😂 Baldur's Gate 2 still is my favorite game (had it on 5 discs plus 1 for the expansion, played it so much one of the discs got scratched beyond working) and I'm happy to see that BG3 is just as fun (if not more). If you never heard of the game then it's your problem. Salty people are entertaining.
Whatever flaws baldur's gate may have had, when the developers show so much passion and care in making and patching the game that i have so much respect for larian studios
I am the tweet at 4:55. To be clear, I voted for Baulders Gate and was playing Devil’s Advocate for Spiderman. As I said in replies, Spiderman being a PS5 exclusive (a console that limited people have access to) is one of many reasons the voting power of Spiderman was lacking
I don’t care about what game was actually better. A bad game could win game of the year if votes are overwhelmingly. I was just saying Spiderman could have outvoted if they had more players. That is a fact.
I love how people just wtrie off Turn based games , even though it's one of the ONLY ways to add real difficulty without just inflating health.
And plus a turn based game can give you access to WAY more options than a real time game.
The only good turn based game is chess
@@volktol4432 Why because it's simple ?
@@neoconker2k8 no, because it’s fun and has many ways to only play your opponents and well as factoring in your ability to predict and/or plan out the actions of your enemies to account for you own
@volktol4432 That's turn based games in general , and most have MUCH more depth than chess .
Chess is amazing game that I agree but it's definitely less engaging/entertaining IMO
@@volktol4432So Final Fantasy isn't good?
As a Zelda fan, i played TOTK day one ... my reaction at the end of the game was ... "It was good, not GOTY good, but still good"
I'm casting shade now on Square Enix. Didn't someone at Square say they had to walk away from turn based for Final Fantasy? And now a turn based game racked in so many awards. Maybe Square should go back to turn based.
Still doubt Square Enix will ever make a mainline turn based FF game again. It's gonna be Octopath, Bravely Default, or Dragon Quest if you want turn based Square Enix games from now on unfortunately.
Honestly i just watch the VGAs because its pretty much a winter showcase.
The drama that ensues afterwards is just the cherry on top.
Wait BG3 isn't a AAA game? With all the content packed into it I would have thought it was. Interesting.
It's AA at best. Plus it had that entire early access period to iron out any mishaps.
Aaa/indie accord to Internet Research
Independent studio, self publishing.
They are at the low end of AAA size and budget (with Tencent investment) but they are officially independant, since they are not publicly traded, that the CEO majority owns the company and that they are self published. So they have all the creative and production power, no external pressures.
Turn based is a genre and nothing to do with innovation. Damn these kids nowadays
You got Bear love in your game ?.....No?....and the winner goes to Baldurs Gate 3 !
I'm crying lol
You can immediately tell you’re talking to a mouthbreathing fanboy that didn’t even play the game because the only things they can say about it are ‘lE bEAr sCeNe’ and ‘tUrN bAsEd LoL’
@@brilobox2 you do realize I was giving It props correct? Ive been playing BG3 since the beta
@@apimb1396for someone like me who has never played a D&D game. Do you think I should buy it?
My Last Turn based Game i have played was Disciples 2 (20 years ago)
@@brilobox2i have 150 hours and dont found this bear scene yet
I routinely return to this video just for the 'Given Up' joke. Your delivery is so on point.
BG3 fully deserved every award it got. I am not a D&D fan or a turn based combat fan and I spent (and continue to spend) dozens of hours in BG3 enjoying the game.
That’s not what most mean by it shouldn’t of won goty. The categories where Spider-Man 2 won NOTHING were rigged. Alan wake 2 was a random game that came out of nowhere that most people had no idea was gonna have a sequel.
I mean hell, my GOTY (among the nominees, at least) was TOTK, but to think BG3 doesn't deserve the W the biggest hit of copium Ive seen in a good while
(And if we wanna talk snubs, Entropy Effect shouldve gotten a nominnation at the very least, but thats just me)
*proceeds to look up Entropy Effect
Oh, it's a BlazBlue game, right? Normally I'm not into roguelikes, but this one looks intereting. I wouldn't necessarily call it a snub for this year as apparently it's schedled to come out of early access next year. So there's still a chance for it to get recognized in 2024.
*wishlisted
@@TheScruffySkull BlazBlue started as a 2D fighting game, but that aspect of the franchise seems to be dormant (likely due to Guilty Gears success)
And honestly, the fact that it's a Rogue-like isn't even why I like it. It's just a very solid 2D action game. Honestly, even if that is in your wheelhouse, this game is 100% worth your time
This is probably the first Rogue-like I've personally seen that makes even the failed runs be to your benefit (something I think games like Hades doesn't really do all that well) with stuff like Legacy Skills and passive buffs
I can go on, but I think I got my point across. Just wish the game would have a steeper sale than 12%
it's more about how oblivious certain people are rather than having their own GOTY preferences. That's the part which amazes me
@@themagetone4184Nobody has the time to play every single game, and its 100% valid for each of us to have our own preferences. But to go from there to bashing something they haven't played and have no clue whether is good enough to be goty material is outright retarded. I was hoping this nonsense came from some kids throwing a tantrum because they don't know better.. but no, these were grown a** adults paying $8 a month for X blue.
Which ironically explains a lot...
I have heard some amazing cope about BG3 getting GOTY, like some seriously ridiculous shit allow me to share a few:
"No one has heard of this game. I know REAL gamers and they never even heard of this game.", "It's Raid: Shadow Legends with better graphics.", "It's just a mobile game.", "How can a turn-based game even exist today?", "It's a dead game.", "No big TH-camrs played this game.", "The combat is just random trash, how can that be considered fun?", "Your main character can't even talk!" "Only nerds played this!"
And so, SO much more but you get the point. Some wild and potent copium was used after the game awards lol.
I'm just glad that Sea of Stars won Best Independent Game. It's a fantastic game that I adore with all my heart, one that I've waited years for after playing The Messenger.
*I played it* = *everyone played it*
*everyone but me played it* = *nobody even played it*
I was skeptical of the baldurs gate gameplay since I never played a game of that type of style but then got it and love it alot, I think people just see turned base and think thats boring=bad game
Even if I thought Assassins Creed: Mirage was game of the year, I wouldn't admit that to anybody. That's some stuff you take to the grave.
Same can be said if Elden ring and BG3 came out the same time and BG3 won Goty over Elden Ring people would be losing their shit.. over the results of course that didn't happen..it would've been interesting conversation if both came out same year..
Also, anything would have lost against RDR2
@@aerus3446 RDR2 lost to God of War but RDR2 still got a greater % of GOTYs in 2nd place than the winner in 2021, 2019 and 2014, so it was unlucky.
@@aerus3446 Elden Ring has a better open world than RDR2 though…
@@jameslough6329 ER open world is great, but its lacking compared to the full dynamic world of RDR2, that evolves as you keep playing, every NPC having its own daily routine, world physics and mechanics, wildlife and emergent gameplay.
@@aerus3446 True, but Elden Ring's open world is WAY more open ended in terms of how you approach it gameplay wise.
RDR2 gives you the illusion of being open, but the main story quests are all extremely linear and need to be done in a specific order.
There are even markers on your map pointing exactly where you need to go for the next quest and the entire map is visible from the beginning of the game so it never feels like you are actually exploring the world of your own volition.
Elden Ring on the other hand allows you to make your own markers for places that look interesting on the map and allows you to explore the world in whatever order you want (for the most part). Areas of the map also unlock organically as you explore them rather than the entire map being visible from the start.
In lamon's terms, RDR2 feels like an interactive movie set in a huge world. Elden Ring feels like an adventure set in a huge world. One is clearly more fun to play
I have a ps5 and baldurs gate 3 has restored my excitement in playing games again. I have over 200 hours
While I personally have problems with BG3, it's not my personal best of year because of said problems, I won't claim it doesn't deserve it. Yeah, I preferred Zelda, but I honestly don't care that it didn't win Game of the Year.
I'm also of the mindset that remakes do deserve to be nominated for game of the year... because being a remake doesn't automatically guarantee success, it guarantees comparison to the older version, and the better the older version is, the more the new one needs to work. Resident Evil 4 Remake took what was already a monumental game, and took it to the next level.
The only nomination I didn't agree with was Spiderman 2. That was such a safe, pandering game that I was surprised it got as high as it did.
But, if you asked me my personal "Best game of the year", I think I'd have to go with Remnant 2. Phenomenal game. Indie game of the year goes to Cassette Beasts hands down.
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As for setting a standard, the only one I'll agree with is that games should be launched in their full state. BG3 launched after 3 years of Early Access. You can say it launched complete because they had 3 years to dial things in and add things while receiving money and feedback from players. BG3 did not launch out of nowhere, it was playable since 2020. Many feature adds and changes were made since then.
Only Act 1 was playable on Early Access. The last two acts came out on release fyi😊
@@Vamparina413 Which is why Act 3 was super buggy.
Doesn't really matter, the game was playable for 3 years and getting very valuable feedback from community members. And purchasable. I've got 0 issues with Early Access titles, my top 2 most played Steam games, totally 700+ hours, are early access titles. I'm just saying that BG3 didn't "come out of nowhere to destroy the gaming industry". I'm just saying that it 1 - was in Early Access, and 2 - is essentially Larian Studio's formula of games but D&D. Divinity Original Sin 2 has many of the things people are praising BG3 for, but nobody cared for that game for some reason...
And again, not to discredit BG3, it's a good game. I just think people are praising it a little too hard.
Someone must ripped open the eyes of those marvel fans to see that SPIDERMAN 2 IS NOT THAT AMAZING
"turn based games won game of the year, the state of the industry"
Ah yes, because a game that lasts 10 hours and has half of the runtime in cutscenes and qtes, which is actually the standard currently, is somehow better than a turn based games with 90% gameplay and hundreds of hours of playtime.
I initially wasn’t a fan of turn-based games except for Pokémon, but a few months ago I tried One Piece Odyssey and it really warmed me up to the idea of turn-based games
turn based has got me pumped right now though. Yakuza: Like a Dragon was good. SEa of Stars was fine. Like a Dragon: Infinite wealth Demo plays good....I'm super pumped for that. I enjoyed Like a Dragon a lot as turn based. I'll play bg3 one day,.
My brother in Law bought a Steam Deck to pretty much just play BG3 on instead of his work laptop. LOL Dude isn't even a gamer. LOL So who played it? A shit ton of people. Even people who aren't "gamers" came out to play it, That's actually what makes things successful is when it breaks out of the box.
It came out last year but I'd recommend chained echoes as well. A bit older the league of legends ruined king game and then the devs older game battle chasers nightwar
I guess chess sucks now because you have to take turns and why should anyone do that?
I was sad pikmin didn't take best family game cus pikmin needs all the publicity it can get but mario is just so popular that even tho pikmin 4 is a much better game than wonder it couldn't win
Pikmin 4 still won an award i think. I loved Pikmin since GameCube days.
@@V3ntilator yeah it got best strategy cus for some reason they put no 4x or other rts games on there
@@zacharybecker8228 "Best Community" category were equally bad. BG 3, Cyberpunk and Destiny 2 had nothing to do in that category. Destiny 2 were in a way not mis-placed, but everyone knows the community support sucks in that game.
@@V3ntilator agreed
People saying it's not "game of the year caliber" is crazy. Acting as if it's not in the discussion for best game of this century. Absolutely wild takes.