I love your narration. You should consider some longer form commentary. Us Mech warriors need something to listen to as we trudge through the devastation of 4 succession wars.
Another fascinating look into a less-known aspect of the Battletech universe. If there was a Battletech museum, I could easily see you voicing an exhibit or gallery.
Also a fantastic way to get the hang of using that new mech you just picked up, while getting paid to do it. I just outed myself a mercenary player, didn’t I.
Loved it. One of my favorite bandit kingdoms. And love how you pronounce it! I always have pronounced it "Sir-Sin-us." But like so much in BT, "Sir-kin-us" also works!
There was some discussion about it in the discord channel. We decided that there were enough similar words in English with the hard K sound that it likely fit that pattern.
For what it's worth, Circinus is a constellation and it's name is from Latin for compass, as in the drawing implement for creating circles(circulus in Latin). Circles... Circulus... Circinus... Anyway, the soft 'S' sound is correct.. Sir-Sin-Nes.
I'm just now getting into Battletech, and know nothing about the the lore. So I've been listening to videos like these to try and figure out which faction I'd like to play. I think I've settled on the Circinus Federation. I like the idea of being pirates and fighting for themselves rather than some noble cause. As Henry Hill said in 'Goodfellas': “For us, to live any other way was nuts. To us, those goody-good people who worked shitty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day, worried about their bills, were dead. I mean, they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something, we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again.”
Im some what surprised the Marions didnt absorb the surviving worlds, they had some pretty big ambitions in the DarkAges and Ilkhan era. Seems like easy pickings.
Excellent job, I really appreciate these lesser known players on the galactic stage, and would personally wish that c.g would invest a little bit more focus on them. They are a gold mine for just about any story you could imagine. From light hearted good vs evil skirmishes, to stories of high stake grim dark political thrillers that ultimately don't affect the wider state of the galaxy
Rewatching while im bored in a waiting room. Macintire was a poor military leader no doubt, and a dictator(but thats not unusual in battletech) but his diplomatic accomplishments are noteworthy. If he had delegated military command to a trusted ally, he couldve been a great leader for the federation, mayhaps even transitioned them into a proper state. Its quite impressive he mollified 2 successor houses, and got promises they wouldnt crush him like a bug, all for returning prisoners! and, he didnt even have to admit responsibility. Credit where credit is due
(Thank you for all the work you put into this video, it was great!) I’ve gotta say there is a certain twisted joy in being able to watch bad guys fighting other bad guys, knowing whoever won the galaxy will smell a little bit better. That’s a feeling I had from the very beginning to the very end of this history, they were the perfect example of a bandit kingdom that the inner sphere always accuses the periphery states of being and the fact that they were founded by former SLDF soldiers loyal to Kerensky is just so fucking ironic. I wonder how many of our other little bandit kingdoms and pirate states can be traced back to inner sphere types causing hell in the periphery. Okay, that was a bit unfair, we produce enough of our own trash and no point in denying it. Still the irony. In the end the black warriors and the people of Cerrinus made their bed and they had to lie in it. All I can say is that I feel pity for the slaves, serfs, and innocents that died from the raids, the wars, and finally the bombs. Hopefully someone, hell even one of the great houses clears out the shattered mess of the old federation before it becomes another haven for piracy on a large scale.
I feel some empathy for the non-pirates on the planet. And it's kind of scary to see it's not even on the newer maps. How many other formerly settled planets are in the Inner Sphere that were scoured from records?
@@MechanicalFrog Yeap yeap, it’s terrifying to think of how many once populous systems throughout the inner sphere and the periphery used to be on the maps but now arnt because those worlds are dead. It’s a grime thought but we can only hope that one day when the damage that we have done to those worlds fades and with new technology they can be rediscovered and resettled. Putting the ghost of those murdered worlds to rest.
You say the names are too tainted, but consider the most notorious mercenaries to sign on with Amaris. Consider how tainted the origins of names of some iconic designs were, and how even some of the grand warships serving in the twilight of the SLDF carried names of blue water warships that served monsters.
Hello Frog. I hate to mention this, but the Circinus Federation is pronounced as 'Sir-Sin-us'. MUCH easier to say than your pronunciation. Oriente is said as: 'Ore-E-en-tay'. The Circinus Federation is a rare example of FASA, or some other company that held the copyrights to Battletech, destroying a 'faction' outright. There is little hope of ever seeing another government in the area, since both Marik and Steiner both keep a wary eye on the area, and are more than willing to stomp out any 'pirate kingdom' that should establish itself, or attempt to do so. There are only a handful of such instances in the entire 'history' of the Battletech universe. Where some 'faction' has been so damaged, or destroyed, to the point that it is highly unlikely to ever be re-established in the future. The entirety of the Word of Blake is such an instance, and an example. As is The Society, in the Clans, or as I often refer to it... the Khanate.
We discussed the pronunciation of Circinus in the discord channel and the only official source I had for it is the audio book from the Eridani Light Horse which just came out which used the hard K in the middle. Circus, Circumstance, Circumference, etc. I understand there is a star which is pronounced as you describe, but it's not the same star. I decided to go with the closest thing to an official source and the prevailing opinion in the channel.
@@MechanicalFrog : Well, where I sit in America, those words: Circus, Circumstance, Circumference, all are spoken with the first three letters sounding like 'Sir', Sir, not Sear, or any other slurring of the phoneme. So Circinus would be Sir Sin Us. I guess, where you come from, words are spoken with some other 'accent'. I just pointed out the American way of saying the name. No other 'slur' was meant, or implied. And even though you 'mispronounce' words to my ear, I will still be auditing your series because it is captivating, well written, and has interesting characters, as well as interesting events. All happening at the edges of 'civilized' space. As said before... Keep writing... and I'll keep listening to each 'chapter'.
@@richmcgee434 In classical Latin, a c is pronounced as a hard K sound. Only later did it devolve into a softer c and ch sound during the Renaissance, which you will see in Italian. It is entirely reasonable to make the call that a society obsessed with recreating the Roman Empire would go with the hard K sound. I understand that because you are on the Internet you think that there aren't human beings on the other end of your unhinged and rude rantings. However, there are. I hope you have a long and rewarding life and that I never have to interact with you ever again. God bless.
If you don't mind me schilling in your comments for a moment; if people want an in-depth coverage on the Blantleff/Dersidatz conflict, I cover that in my 3003 video.
Circle Circumference Circus The original Circinus would be pronounced with a hard c, only later bastardized by a French influence. Plus, the only official audio I have heard that mentions the Circinus Federation used the hard c. If I'm wrong, I welcome an official CGL rep's response.
Oh, I see, you're referencing the actual constellation, perhaps? (bah, facts). Circuit also fits in there as well, I suppose. I myself have always looked at that in-game system name as being more of an attribution to Circe, the dual nature of pastoral agri-worlds hiding the Black Warriors predatory agendas and all. And, hey, since the whole world naturally revolves around me... According to Google Translate (which is ALWAYS so accurate), it seems like the original-original pronunciation in Latin would be a hard "ch" in both letter placements. Kinda like "chyr-CHEEN-ohs", maybe?? But, since Circinus was discovered by a french dude, I'd opine there perhaps wasn't later bastardization as outright mangling from the get go. The French after all, are the one set of us colonizers that would get uptight over specific pronunciations. I'd love to see if there was ever anything that FASA ever put out on the subject way back in the day. Google Translate helps me figure it out sometimes, but my own 'Merican English sensibilities can take me on random tangents like this.
MF: Been generally enjoying your stuff, but the mispronunciations are triggering me. 'Hegemony' is pronounced with a soft 'g' and emphasis on the second syllable: Heh-JEH-men-ee. 'Ethereal' also has emphasis on the second syllable: Eh-THEE-ree-al. While I don't know the official pronunciation of 'Circinus', I would think it would be with both 'c's soft: SUR-seen-us or Sur-SEEN-us.
We may be running into some regional differences in pronunciation. As far as the Circinus goes, we discussed it in the discord channel and decided it most likely fit with other words like circus in English with the hard K sound. It's also used with a hard K sound in the Eridani Light Horse audio book that was recently released. I'm sorry if the way I pronounce words is bothering you but realistically, it's unlikely that I will change much at this point in my life. The concrete is set as far as words like hegemony.
@@MechanicalFrog Circinus is an actual galaxy so perhaps an astronomy forum would be a good source. Apparently they all seem to think it’s pronounced Sir-Sin-Us. Which seems off to me but thems the breaks.
Thanks for giving the video a go. I hope you enjoyed it.
As inner-sphere politics goes, Nuclear Hellfire spiked with Cobalt-60 is honestly quite a kind gesture
Really settles an issue...
@@MechanicalFrog All that's missing is firing a few mountain crackers into areas of major volcanic/geothermal activity.
I love your narration. You should consider some longer form commentary. Us Mech warriors need something to listen to as we trudge through the devastation of 4 succession wars.
I would love to. It's all a matter of balancing detail and brevity to get the most interesting bits.
Another fascinating look into a less-known aspect of the Battletech universe. If there was a Battletech museum, I could easily see you voicing an exhibit or gallery.
Thanks a lot. There's still so much more to cover. I better get to work.
One time the Regulans did a good thing with nukes 🫡💥💥💥
I feel bad for the actual farmers on the planet, and the fact that the planet isn't even on the newer maps...
I love these lore videos. There is always so much i missed over the years.
So many wacky stories out there in the old BT lore books.
@@MechanicalFrog and unlike Warhammer 40K, they don’t take themselves way to seriously.
@@wraith7989 Absolutely.
Lovely work yet again @Mechanical Frog. I enjoy the Periphery powers far more than the Houses since their stories and governments vary so much
Thanks a ton for giving it a go. Working on the next one right now.
Nice coverage! About matches what I had in my research, too.
So glad. I hope I did the topic justice.
Pirates, always fun to blast away without regrets.
Once you blast one, hard to stop.
Also a fantastic way to get the hang of using that new mech you just picked up, while getting paid to do it. I just outed myself a mercenary player, didn’t I.
@@wraith7989 Busted.
Loved it. One of my favorite bandit kingdoms. And love how you pronounce it! I always have pronounced it "Sir-Sin-us." But like so much in BT, "Sir-kin-us" also works!
There was some discussion about it in the discord channel. We decided that there were enough similar words in English with the hard K sound that it likely fit that pattern.
For what it's worth, Circinus is a constellation and it's name is from Latin for compass, as in the drawing implement for creating circles(circulus in Latin). Circles... Circulus... Circinus... Anyway, the soft 'S' sound is correct.. Sir-Sin-Nes.
Salted nukes. That's just nasty.
Those damn Cirians deserved it glory to the Marian Hegemony!
Ave! True to Caesar!
Pirates, pirates, everywhere...
@@MechanicalFrog Gasp..... how dare you insult the glorious Hegemony good sir!
@@lebe5894 I just can't find cosplayers very intimidating.
@@MechanicalFrog Aaaah dammit he got us, legionaries scatter!
Well if you're doing these guys, are you also going to do the Ouburn (sp?) Confederation? Those are unrepentant pirates.
We'll see what gets done next... there are 3-open folders collecting random bits of lore as I research other things.
Thank you for these I am learning as I go
That's all any of us can do... learn a little more each day.
I'm just now getting into Battletech, and know nothing about the the lore. So I've been listening to videos like these to try and figure out which faction I'd like to play. I think I've settled on the Circinus Federation. I like the idea of being pirates and fighting for themselves rather than some noble cause.
As Henry Hill said in 'Goodfellas': “For us, to live any other way was nuts. To us, those goody-good people who worked shitty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day, worried about their bills, were dead. I mean, they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something, we just took it. If anyone complained twice they got hit so bad, believe me, they never complained again.”
Circinus are a wacky bunch, for sure. Welcome to the fray, Mechwarrior.
Mech Frog - really digging your videos, Working my way through them all, not disappointed at all so far! Please keep up the good work!
Thank you very much. I'm glad to hear that you're getting a kick out of them.
4:24 Plucky periphery planet? you thought that one up either in the shower or nodding off to sleep 😀😄😄
Everyone loves a little alliteration.
I really appreciate & am enjoying these periphery faction overviews.
Thank you for giving it a go. I am glad to hear you enjoyed it.
Im some what surprised the Marions didnt absorb the surviving worlds, they had some pretty big ambitions in the DarkAges and Ilkhan era. Seems like easy pickings.
Might not have been worth the effort following the Word of Blake cleansing...
Very good stuff indeed! I might do some Black Warriors to use against my FWL sometime.
Your ELH mechs looks excellent👍
Thank ya. I need to do some black/dark grey mechs. It's odd that I don't have a few.
Excellent job, I really appreciate these lesser known players on the galactic stage, and would personally wish that c.g would invest a little bit more focus on them. They are a gold mine for just about any story you could imagine. From light hearted good vs evil skirmishes, to stories of high stake grim dark political thrillers that ultimately don't affect the wider state of the galaxy
Thanks a lot for giving it a go.
Good ol' Space Tortuga!
yarr
Sweet I’m glad I woke up to this new video
Thanks mate top video
Rewatching while im bored in a waiting room. Macintire was a poor military leader no doubt, and a dictator(but thats not unusual in battletech)
but his diplomatic accomplishments are noteworthy. If he had delegated military command to a trusted ally, he couldve been a great leader for the federation, mayhaps even transitioned them into a proper state. Its quite impressive he mollified 2 successor houses, and got promises they wouldnt crush him like a bug, all for returning prisoners! and, he didnt even have to admit responsibility. Credit where credit is due
Good job on your video
Thanks a lot for giving it a go!
(Thank you for all the work you put into this video, it was great!)
I’ve gotta say there is a certain twisted joy in being able to watch bad guys fighting other bad guys, knowing whoever won the galaxy will smell a little bit better. That’s a feeling I had from the very beginning to the very end of this history, they were the perfect example of a bandit kingdom that the inner sphere always accuses the periphery states of being and the fact that they were founded by former SLDF soldiers loyal to Kerensky is just so fucking ironic. I wonder how many of our other little bandit kingdoms and pirate states can be traced back to inner sphere types causing hell in the periphery. Okay, that was a bit unfair, we produce enough of our own trash and no point in denying it. Still the irony.
In the end the black warriors and the people of Cerrinus made their bed and they had to lie in it. All I can say is that I feel pity for the slaves, serfs, and innocents that died from the raids, the wars, and finally the bombs. Hopefully someone, hell even one of the great houses clears out the shattered mess of the old federation before it becomes another haven for piracy on a large scale.
I feel some empathy for the non-pirates on the planet. And it's kind of scary to see it's not even on the newer maps. How many other formerly settled planets are in the Inner Sphere that were scoured from records?
@@MechanicalFrog Yeap yeap, it’s terrifying to think of how many once populous systems throughout the inner sphere and the periphery used to be on the maps but now arnt because those worlds are dead. It’s a grime thought but we can only hope that one day when the damage that we have done to those worlds fades and with new technology they can be rediscovered and resettled. Putting the ghost of those murdered worlds to rest.
Truth.
You say the names are too tainted, but consider the most notorious mercenaries to sign on with Amaris. Consider how tainted the origins of names of some iconic designs were, and how even some of the grand warships serving in the twilight of the SLDF carried names of blue water warships that served monsters.
Arrr mating, pirates. In bet Mechanical Frogs small piratical side to him 🙂, or maybe at least a little Captain Jack Sparrow or Captain Morgan.
My lawyer has advised me not to comment.
Thank goodness the Blakeists got what’s coming to them!
What do you mean? The Word of Blake is wonderful. It is our future. Submit to the glory and beauty that are Blake's words...
@@MechanicalFrog *Says the nuke slinging crazy people.* 😉
Nice
Thank ya.
Great video!
Thank ya!
Ty
Cheers.
Well, if you can't trust slave-holding Roman fascist cosplayers who can you trust?
Well, when you put it that way...
Pirates. 😂
y'arr...
Hello Frog.
I hate to mention this, but the Circinus Federation is pronounced as 'Sir-Sin-us'. MUCH easier to say than your pronunciation.
Oriente is said as: 'Ore-E-en-tay'.
The Circinus Federation is a rare example of FASA, or some other company that held the copyrights to Battletech, destroying a 'faction' outright. There is little hope of ever seeing another government in the area, since both Marik and Steiner both keep a wary eye on the area, and are more than willing to stomp out any 'pirate kingdom' that should establish itself, or attempt to do so.
There are only a handful of such instances in the entire 'history' of the Battletech universe. Where some 'faction' has been so damaged, or destroyed, to the point that it is highly unlikely to ever be re-established in the future.
The entirety of the Word of Blake is such an instance, and an example. As is The Society, in the Clans, or as I often refer to it... the Khanate.
We discussed the pronunciation of Circinus in the discord channel and the only official source I had for it is the audio book from the Eridani Light Horse which just came out which used the hard K in the middle.
Circus, Circumstance, Circumference, etc. I understand there is a star which is pronounced as you describe, but it's not the same star.
I decided to go with the closest thing to an official source and the prevailing opinion in the channel.
@@MechanicalFrog : Well, where I sit in America, those words: Circus, Circumstance, Circumference, all are spoken with the first three letters sounding like 'Sir', Sir, not Sear, or any other slurring of the phoneme. So Circinus would be Sir Sin Us. I guess, where you come from, words are spoken with some other 'accent'. I just pointed out the American way of saying the name. No other 'slur' was meant, or implied. And even though you 'mispronounce' words to my ear, I will still be auditing your series because it is captivating, well written, and has interesting characters, as well as interesting events. All happening at the edges of 'civilized' space. As said before... Keep writing... and I'll keep listening to each 'chapter'.
@@richmcgee434 In classical Latin, a c is pronounced as a hard K sound. Only later did it devolve into a softer c and ch sound during the Renaissance, which you will see in Italian. It is entirely reasonable to make the call that a society obsessed with recreating the Roman Empire would go with the hard K sound.
I understand that because you are on the Internet you think that there aren't human beings on the other end of your unhinged and rude rantings. However, there are. I hope you have a long and rewarding life and that I never have to interact with you ever again. God bless.
“Free Worlds Republic”
I blame my editor. He is an ass.
@@MechanicalFrog In his defence, the Marik's can't decide what their realm is half the time either
If you don't mind me schilling in your comments for a moment; if people want an in-depth coverage on the Blantleff/Dersidatz conflict, I cover that in my 3003 video.
You keep on saying that name... Somehow, I do not think it sounds, like you think it sounds!
Circle
Circumference
Circus
The original Circinus would be pronounced with a hard c, only later bastardized by a French influence.
Plus, the only official audio I have heard that mentions the Circinus Federation used the hard c.
If I'm wrong, I welcome an official CGL rep's response.
Oh, I see, you're referencing the actual constellation, perhaps? (bah, facts). Circuit also fits in there as well, I suppose. I myself have always looked at that in-game system name as being more of an attribution to Circe, the dual nature of pastoral agri-worlds hiding the Black Warriors predatory agendas and all. And, hey, since the whole world naturally revolves around me...
According to Google Translate (which is ALWAYS so accurate), it seems like the original-original pronunciation in Latin would be a hard "ch" in both letter placements. Kinda like "chyr-CHEEN-ohs", maybe?? But, since Circinus was discovered by a french dude, I'd opine there perhaps wasn't later bastardization as outright mangling from the get go. The French after all, are the one set of us colonizers that would get uptight over specific pronunciations.
I'd love to see if there was ever anything that FASA ever put out on the subject way back in the day. Google Translate helps me figure it out sometimes, but my own 'Merican English sensibilities can take me on random tangents like this.
There's an argument both ways. I made a judgment call based upon the info I had and the consensus in the discord channel. @@dearlytheatre
MF: Been generally enjoying your stuff, but the mispronunciations are triggering me.
'Hegemony' is pronounced with a soft 'g' and emphasis on the second syllable: Heh-JEH-men-ee. 'Ethereal' also has emphasis on the second syllable: Eh-THEE-ree-al. While I don't know the official pronunciation of 'Circinus', I would think it would be with both 'c's soft: SUR-seen-us or Sur-SEEN-us.
We may be running into some regional differences in pronunciation. As far as the Circinus goes, we discussed it in the discord channel and decided it most likely fit with other words like circus in English with the hard K sound. It's also used with a hard K sound in the Eridani Light Horse audio book that was recently released. I'm sorry if the way I pronounce words is bothering you but realistically, it's unlikely that I will change much at this point in my life. The concrete is set as far as words like hegemony.
Sear - Sin - Us
The overwhelming opinion in Discord was a hard K sound in the middle. It also has a hard K in the Eridani Light Horse audio book recently released.
@@MechanicalFrog the overwhelming average age of discord is 12, so… 🤗
@@pf6797 ok
@@MechanicalFrog Circinus is an actual galaxy so perhaps an astronomy forum would be a good source. Apparently they all seem to think it’s pronounced Sir-Sin-Us. Which seems off to me but thems the breaks.
@@pf6797 Welp.
You forgot the rumours of Baltazar Mech Factory
I have brought shame and dishonor to my channel, and my family. :O