Masterclass nº2 Saleem Abboud Ashkar - No 21 - Barenboim on Beethoven

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  • Playlist: • Barenboim on Beethoven...
    David Kadouch - Sonata No. 16, first movement.
    Saleem Abboud Ashkar - Sonata No. 21 "Waldstein", first movement.
    Lang Lang - Sonata No 23 "Appassionata" , first movement.
    Shai Wosner - Sonata No. 17 "Tempest", first movement.
    Alessio Bax - Sonata No. 29 "Hammerklavier", fourth movement.
    Jonathan Bliss - Sonata No. 30, third movement.

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  • @pepeloco65
    @pepeloco65  7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Parece que milhouse está teniendo serios problemas

  • @MusicalBasics
    @MusicalBasics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    So blessed to be able to hear a master like Barenboim teach already extremely accomplished pianists, which leads to such high level musical insights!!!

    • @itsmz827
      @itsmz827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey Lionel, good to see you here! Just wondering, who’s your favourite pianist and Composer combination? For example, (Barenboim & Beethoven)
      For me it’s Yuja Wang and Rachmaninoff.

    • @shah144
      @shah144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@itsmz827 mine is Barenboim and Beethoven

  • @Rondo2ooo
    @Rondo2ooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I stumbled on this masterclass videos by accident and going through each of them. Even without being a pianist you can learn so much.

    • @AmyAmy-er8bp
      @AmyAmy-er8bp ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy THEIR world. They were not cutting trees then.

  • @Highinsight7
    @Highinsight7 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    These master classes by Barenboim are second to none... I've played sooo many of the sonatas my whole life... and I feel like I'm now... JUST now starting to get a real gimps of what they're all about... I don't think I'll ever really understand them to their fullest... BUT WHAT a journey!!!!! the BEST!

  • @MichaelAlexander1967
    @MichaelAlexander1967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    After listening to this master class, I now have a much better understanding of Daniel Borenboim's giftedness. I have a habit of liking the videos that produce a louder sound, but I now know that the ability to color a phrase with a delicate texture requires an advanced understanding of color along with a mastery of touch & is an indication of a more seasoned player. I'm so impressed, by both the student & the teacher!

  • @LyndseyMacPherson
    @LyndseyMacPherson 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Maestro Barenboim is an angel, perhaps sent by Beethoven himself. Seriously, he is such a gift to us all. And what a brilliant teacher. Restores my faith in humanity when I encounter people such as this. :)

    • @pianolessonsboulder1894
      @pianolessonsboulder1894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bravo ! And Amen !

    • @samcollins8330
      @samcollins8330 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lyndsey MacPherson Are you seriously saying Beethoven is God?

    • @LyndseyMacPherson
      @LyndseyMacPherson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samcollins8330 Certainly not, at least not in the conventional sense. (Also, I used "angel" in the broader connotation of one who is gracious and generous.) But all souls possess will and intent, and I doubt not the power in such, particularly when it is possessed by those with the faculty to use them. Beethoven's will is legendary. If we operate under the belief that we are all truly connected on a spiritual level, it is plausible to consider that Beethoven exists still and within those he chooses. ;)

    • @samcollins8330
      @samcollins8330 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lyndsey MacPherson ok, what do you mean by “within those he chooses”?

    • @Rondo2ooo
      @Rondo2ooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samcollins8330 You understand the metaphor made in the musical context or what is your aim?

  • @siemonblidener652
    @siemonblidener652 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It's really interesting to get an insight in the thought process of an interpret like Barenboim. Imagine if Glenn Gould had given such masterclasses!

    • @fazec0ld802
      @fazec0ld802 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would’ve been amazing to see! The ridiculous amount of natural virtuosity he possessed coupled with his extremely unique thought process/approach seem like they’d get in the way of teaching, but he was still just so knowledgeable, I think he would’ve been able to impart a massive amount of interpretational insight to anyone. If only 😭

  • @vitamc1213
    @vitamc1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Claudio Arrau and Barenboim are the Beethoven greats!

    • @danielrezende2103
      @danielrezende2103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like Schiff

    • @majornewb
      @majornewb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, and Lang Lang is one of the best Beethoven interpreters

  • @cesarabrahamcastanedavalen3788
    @cesarabrahamcastanedavalen3788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was reading something else, but Maestro Barenboim's recording at the end took all my attention.

  • @marcosPRATA918
    @marcosPRATA918 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A questão do tempo, da velocidade, da estrutura harmônica, e outras sutilezas...; como isso é uma lente da escuta acurada!!

  • @rebecacohen4109
    @rebecacohen4109 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    que maravilla de ionterpretacion

  • @advogado3118
    @advogado3118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ele é pura genialidade. Sua capacidade de entender a sutileza da música é incrível e impressionante. Eu gosto do seu intelecto inspirado por Deus.

  • @JAOrtizCompositor
    @JAOrtizCompositor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    39:39 *¡Gran momento! En realidad, me agrada este pianista; su ejecución es muy buena y clara.*

  • @今泉博美
    @今泉博美 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    雪の上を滑るような滑らかな指さばき…。
    深い層まで体ごと持って行かれる演奏は素晴らしい…とも言えないぐらい。🎹ブラボー!

  • @pianolessonsboulder1894
    @pianolessonsboulder1894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What fabulous video ! It has made me hear the first movement of the Waldstein with new ears and approach it with a mind in awe of Beethoven's harmonic genius. And that this was written by a deaf man who heard the most idealised performance of the music when he was composing it. Barenboim hears it the same way. He has made the notes come alive and speak to us and to reveal themselves in all their beauty and wonder. So often under the hands of amateurs this profound movement becomes only another exercise by Czerny ! Thank you also for ending the video with a performance by Barenboim himself, which becomes so much more wonderful when it follows his exposition in the Master Class. Truly Barenboim is the epitome of a master musician passing on his genius to the next generation before he himself becomes one with the immortals.

  • @parkch1123
    @parkch1123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sincerely respect you.

  • @heikekeppler993
    @heikekeppler993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Barenboim und Beethoven ist eins in diesen Klängen❤️😊👏🏻👏🏻

  • @kenzeier2943
    @kenzeier2943 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thinking all the time and playing and thinking and playing...a lot of mental energy. I gained an appreciation for the level of effort the great ones exert mentally and digitally

  • @cuball2484
    @cuball2484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    3:06 someone's impressed

  • @JorgevanderLindenOficial
    @JorgevanderLindenOficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    8:15 Barenboim covers his cough. Suddenly his hands are on his lap. 👀

    • @basstian
      @basstian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As his piano-playing demonstrates, he's got fast hands: )
      Alternatively, there may have been more than one masterclass working on the same piece and the editor merely used different shots.

    • @geographyihate
      @geographyihate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably took a couple of takes.

  • @nicolasriveros9266
    @nicolasriveros9266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    De vez en cuando vengo acá para motivarme :)

  • @poorlittlesheep4098
    @poorlittlesheep4098 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Does anyone else gets annoyed when he wouldn't stop playing when Daniel speaks and starts playing when he didn't finished talking yet? I mean, hands off the keys and let him finish will ya?

    • @amirmotahari6186
      @amirmotahari6186 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      he does not seem very receptive, maybe he is too stressed or he just does not get what Barenboim is trying to say.

    • @shaheenpierre
      @shaheenpierre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Strongly agree. Seriously, let the man talk. His comments are what we want to hear.

    • @jackkenefick2696
      @jackkenefick2696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes its pissing me off now

    • @alanleoneldavid1787
      @alanleoneldavid1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I do that sometimes, maybe he is very anxious to play and find the sound of the piece . Or maybe he is Hyperactive. My teacher said me to try first made the sound of the piece on my head and after play it. I don't think he is not receptive but a little impatient

    • @tomz16
      @tomz16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The best one is with lang lang and the apassionatta. The click very nicely

  • @dirkh3097
    @dirkh3097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me: Being relieved, that Saleem uses the pedal like me.
    Barenboim: 11:32
    Me: F*****ck. -.-

  • @emmanuel4360
    @emmanuel4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Que belleza la interpretación de cada nota, siempre me he preguntado si los maestros que crearon este tipo de obras habrían querido transmitir este tipo de interpretación que barenboin explica o simplemente era tocado con menos complejidad.

    • @ralphstefanmuller
      @ralphstefanmuller 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eran genios y locos e hiperinteligentes. Y querian que SUS obras suenen bien

    • @nahuu4481
      @nahuu4481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Que pregunta interesante porque yo también me la hice y la respuesta me llegó años más tarde. Soy Matemático y ahí obtuve la respuesta. En matemática definimos las leyes como teoremas, es decir, si algo es un teorema tiene una demostración y es una ley que queda para la eternidad. Ahora, ¿El matemático creador del teorema que pretendía que supiéramos? Evidentemente lo más importante del descubrimiento, el teorema en si, pero nunca sabremos como llegó a él realmente y más aún cuáles consideró el que eran las claves para llegar a la idea central, pero aún así podemos divertirnos imaginando y creando cosas nuevas.

  • @tinkerchel
    @tinkerchel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it very funny that Saleem was the most talkative in the end credit bit, but he barely spoke during the class~😉

  • @lalacherniavskaia8713
    @lalacherniavskaia8713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Необыкновенно вся речь ясна нюансировка потрясающая

  • @bachopinbee5991
    @bachopinbee5991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is a genius! I instantly recognised it.

  • @Jesusmlrw
    @Jesusmlrw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If we all had a Daniel B. at our sides.... He could/should found an entire new Music Pedagogy if he wanted. The Barenboim Method. I learned piano by just taking hard pieces I love and even though it took me a year a piece it was more fun than typical education.....

    • @livb6945
      @livb6945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Barenboim-Said Akademie is an academy located in Berlin, Germany, offering Bachelor degrees and Artist Diploma certificates in music; it opened on 8 December 2016.

  • @SusanaPerini
    @SusanaPerini 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maurizio Pollini era un amante de los pianissimos, de una claridad increible ❤

  • @snails9505
    @snails9505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think Barenboim understands Beethoven's works more than Beethoven did himself

  • @Theolonius-ov1ij
    @Theolonius-ov1ij 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Baremboim Grande Maestro.

  • @kumowoon1025
    @kumowoon1025 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did he help anyone with the last movement on this? It's a lot more impossible than the first to execute...

    • @cross-eyedliszt5183
      @cross-eyedliszt5183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ted Park the technique for these pieces is usually there before they even get to the masterclass.

    • @sherlockholmeslives.1605
      @sherlockholmeslives.1605 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      These people are far more brilliant than me!

  • @cezartb
    @cezartb ปีที่แล้ว

    Nem entendo como é possível um ser humano tocar piano.

  • @soundog84
    @soundog84 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Parece que olvidáis que el señor Baremboim también es director de orquesta además de pianista y que su comprensión musical no es comparable a la de un mero tocateclas que sólo saber ver la música a través de un istrumento
    Ante alguien así sólo se puede guardar silencio y abrir bien las orejas porque cada cosa que dice es para quedársela eternamente.

    • @josemiguel95
      @josemiguel95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Qué forma tan corta de concebir a un pianista, llamándole un "tocateclas que sólo sabe ver la música a través de un instrumento". No me puedo imaginar llamar tocateclas a gigantes como Gilels, Schiff, Arrau o Brendel. Son mucho, muchísimo más que meros tocateclas aunque no sean directores de orquesta.

    • @sarasanchez2945
      @sarasanchez2945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josemiguel95 Este soundog84 critica cualquiera! Por ejemplo Pablo Lopez quien ha escrito una de las canciones mas dificiles y complicadas para cantar ''El Patio''. Alejandro Sanz dijo muy claro que esa cancion es como si cantas una cancion de Whitney o Mariah, super dificil con muchos detailes.

  • @rodrigobarbosa8781
    @rodrigobarbosa8781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obrigado!!

  • @TheMightyFork_
    @TheMightyFork_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to study with DB. Amazing musician

  • @jskim2510
    @jskim2510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    his rendition in the end is meticulous save the fact that he skipped the repitition

  • @WeDoLoveU
    @WeDoLoveU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interpretation and feel come from the head of its artist. Therefore it can and can't be teach.
    Some can understand it quicker than others.

  • @pengyigu7164
    @pengyigu7164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    16:15 thank you maestro

  • @Danlovar
    @Danlovar 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    1- ¿"Liberación de tensión" en los compases 11-12 tocado en "piano" parándose en la dominante?
    2- ¿Por qué esas miradas de recelo del público?
    3- 38:19 Saleem, deja de tocar, el maestro liberador de tensión quiere hablar.
    4- A Saleem le comió la lengua el gato.

    •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Creo que Barenboim se refiere a que mientras más tensión se acumule, al resolverla se sentirá una liberación mucho mayor, entonces pararse o alargar una dominante, no excesivamente, va a provocar ésto que busca, una satisfacción enorme para el oído al resolverla.

    • @zucalignacio
      @zucalignacio 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No habla con la lengua. Habla con las manos.....

  • @undnjdjk2641
    @undnjdjk2641 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:45

  • @AmyAmy-er8bp
    @AmyAmy-er8bp ปีที่แล้ว

    Kakiye ruki glavnoye. Jalko shto ne podnyali do Lang Langa, xotya u mnogix stage fear. ;)

  • @stephenekonchance9684
    @stephenekonchance9684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clark Kent playing the piano

    • @tonydarcy1606
      @tonydarcy1606 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thoughts of Lois Lane in the telephone kiosk ?

  • @emmanuelpeyre3705
    @emmanuelpeyre3705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chaos to New Order ? 🤔 I prefer Bach...definitly !

    • @gabrielcarpio5843
      @gabrielcarpio5843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer rachmaninov in its romanticism

  • @javieroybin4541
    @javieroybin4541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No me parece bien que lo vuelva loco de esa manera. Creo que las Masterclasses son mas para exhibición del que las da que para alguna finalidad útil.

  • @해피맘-v4t
    @해피맘-v4t 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    문제인데

  • @MrGeencie
    @MrGeencie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes sense at .5 speed

  • @Lion_ofJudah
    @Lion_ofJudah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am biased ofc and so on but i think saleem is the worsts in this series...

  • @federicoriva7928
    @federicoriva7928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too tame for me, I preferer "wilder" versions of this sonata

    • @khalidcr9
      @khalidcr9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @M C well said

  • @해피맘-v4t
    @해피맘-v4t 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ㅅㄱ

  • @michaelmesler1135
    @michaelmesler1135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Too much facial expressions for uneventful parts in the piece at least when Lang Lang contorts his face and acts autistic there’s actually something going on.

    • @galek75
      @galek75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Like the other thousands of pianists out there. Why single Lang Lang out?

    • @khengchooilee5394
      @khengchooilee5394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A great lesson by Barenboim

  • @SR-ib4zt
    @SR-ib4zt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saleem needs to improve his English lol