You impress me more and more with these videos . This is well put . You hit the nail on the head . Kratom withdraw is a nightmare. This is my second time going through it and these videos are extremely helpful. Keep it up 👍
Thanks buddy. My taper was successful, I dont even know how long its been, I don’t count. But I know its been over a week. No problems except a few sleep issues, but I’m good. Glad to have them chains off. Thanks for the inspiration!!
Very impressed by your victory and how you are describing things and sharing with others. I do hope you never relapse. I think you now know how bad it is…so that’s a damn good prevention. Cheering you on. Awesome job on your videos and your progress.
Its masking the addiction you had before kratom its filling in the void. I take kratom longest ive personal ever gone not drinking or in jail its not all bad... mood swings and depression at work is better then waking up in jail realllllllllllllly depressed with hope gone. Ive done both
Great video, Keith. I've been trying to find out ehat this underlying issue is for me, too. For my whole life it's always been a challenge to be sober, to be with myself. The ultimate goal is to be comfortable with yourself.
I can't agree more. But I changed my view on that a little bit. I've accepted that some days won't be as comfortable, or happy, they might even be bad days. And I will accept these days just as I accept the good days. Buy it was easier to do the soul searching when I was sober. I cried for about 2 weeks straight.
@@StrongKeithJ wow, that's great insight. I agree, it's the days where you don't know why they're bad that are difficult, like sometimes your brain seems against you. Especially hard with mood disorders like bipolar and BPD.
@gracemurrayart I'm sure that adds a whole other level. Yes, sometimes they're just bad days. You are feeling down, insecure, anxious. I've had those days before. I have to admit though, I've had those days more often on kratom. Since I quit I have strengthened my Christian faith, which I understand everyone is not for, but it's great for me. I have also been working out nonstop. Two huge things that help me everyday, and really keep me grinding and motivated.
@@StrongKeithJ that's so great to hear Keith. I get what you mean. My mood swings (bipolar) have been a lot worse and rapid cycling since taking kratom, but it helps so much with the lows so it's like a double edged sword. I agree that God can guide us to the right path, as he has with other addictions in my life. I look forward to following your journey 🙏✝️
Thanks for sharing your progress man! You are truly an inspiration for me. I quit back on June 16th only to relapse after about 10-11 days. Then I went back to daily use up to last Thursday 10/5. Took my last dose at 4:30 PM. Haven’t looked back. I’m about to go for a run and get some lifting in to work on those endorphins. Sleep has been my biggest struggle, but I know it will get a little better each day. Side note: I used to live where you do in CO back from 2004-2007 when I was in the Army. Beautiful place to live. Stay hard my friend and keep posting.
I appreciate that bro! Yes I didn't sleep good for about a month straight. Even then it wasn't great, but it gets better everyday just like you said! Exercise is the key for sure! Colorado is beautiful brother. That's awesome you were here. I'll post soon! 🤜🤛
Im 3 month quitting kratom and comfort meds, what helps me was hydroxyzine as a comfort meds it was non addictive and relieve anxiety and for sleep too.. i took it for 2 weeks after on day 6 withdrawal from kratom to help me sleep and reduce the anxiety.. hope this helps if u feel u r going to relapse
Thank you brother I appreciate that. I'm taking the natural route, no medicine. I took hydroxyzine a couple times in the beginning, I learned that I didn't need it. Took me about a month and a half to get good sleep finally. 6-7 hours. And some nights are better than others. I'm learning to accept the bad days without any self medicating with kratom or anything else.
I’ve been sober off kratom for 10 months now and I miss it everyday it’s a struggle not to relapse kratom caused my gallbladder to go hyperkinetic and I had to get it removed sad but it helped me quit and reminds me why I quit cause now I got 4 big scars on my stomach all because I wanted to have a fun experience without breaking the law
And I don’t blame kratom I can only blame myself I definitely have an addictive personality and should’ve never started in the first place but what happened happened and I can’t change it
That's crazy! I was very worried about stomach problems towards the end. I had terrible constipation for years. I can relate about having a fun experience that was legal. You're exactly right. What happened, already happened. We can't change it. That's awesome you're at 10 months!
@@StrongKeithJ thanks man it’s a hard struggle but I know I’m not alone the gallbladder problem was entirely my fault however because I was consuming up to 80 grams of kratom daily at the end of my usage it caused a blockage in my gallbladder and I’m lucky I don’t have liver disease or worse overdosed with how much I was using it was a genuine concern that I would die so I’m glad it’s over with!
@@StrongKeithJ I have a random rash that appears on one side of my face at varying intensity. I feel warm spots on my body almost like a sunburn and I try to rationalize that as side effects. I keep saying I’ll quit tomorrow but then I say one more day And keep using I’ve dumped my stash hundreds of times I’m afraid that this shit is killing me
Kratom did its job with you.. if it stopped working and all is negative from it thats it telling you hey were done now..... it did what it was suppose to do i feel Kratom heals and after it heals it stopps working kinda like filling a pool with new water once its full any more is just redundant
Biggest mistake people make with kratom is not using it to get ahead you wait tell your behind to stop that defeats the puropse you should of grown alot on kratom worked o.t csught up on bills and saved... i think it would be easier to let go if u had all the pros of it not squandered kinda like its use to work in hot labor jobs in jungle you dont take kratom to rekax 5 days do no work then wd and start your journey no u go as far as u can without it.... when u normally would of quit tske kratom to get u further then you reach your destination then u stop not other way around no wonder your all depressed
What day do you feel like you were good enough mentally to work? I have been on Kratom a year and I used it to kick methadone(at a clinic). I was using actual opiates/opioids for 16 years. The only break I had was during rehab in 2011 for 4 months. I kicked methadone cold turkey in rehab with zero medications to help. Took me 2 weeks to sleep even a minute and that’s no BS… I ended up getting back on opiates after rehab and then went back to a methadone years later. I was on just methadone for 7 straight years and decided to quit it without tapering and went straight to Kratom. Methadone to Kratom was a rough transition due to methadone having such a long half life. The Kratom didn’t do anything for 12 days besides help me sleep about 1 hour a night… I have been stuck on Kratom ever since. I kept my dose not too high, but i recently bumped it up when I started a new job. I was taking 5-6 grams twice a day.. now I’m taking 3 doses.. I take roughly 16-18 grams in all each day split into 3 doses… am I just screwed? Before I bumped it up from 10-12 grams I could go 24 hours without it, and my only withdrawal symptom was extreme anxiety… now I’m probably just screwed. The physical haven’t felt too bad compared to what I’ve dealt with in the past with hard opiate withdrawal, but the anxiety and anhedonia destroy me. I’ve dealt with severe anxiety my entire life and it gets amplified when in withdrawal.. im going to try and do a slow taper but I’m worried about trying to get off all substances because it’s been way to damn long… I have tried in the past but my mind keeps me from succeeding. I feel like I need to get my mind right before doing this and I don’t know where to start with that. I know I probably need to speak to a therapist but every single one I’ve talked to hasn’t helped much. Idk. Sorry I’m just rambling.. glad you’re doing well now, brotha.
It's all good to ramble bro, I know how it is. I can only speak for myself, but you're right you have to get your mind right, and that's what I did. I've been wanting to quit for a long time, and I decided to take the jump. It was actually harder than I thought with withdrawals tbh. But I knew that one day it would get better. I worked for three days in the beginning of the withdrawal, and took one day off in between. Then it was the weekend. The following week I started seeing some light, but I had very low energy, couldn't sleep, and anxiety was pretty high. I haven't taken anything since week 2, which was just non narcotic sleeping pill. I knew that my body had to get back to its regular self on its own. I was right! I don't take anything now! Nothing! And I haven't felt better in so many years! You can do it brother!
@@StrongKeithJ I appreciate the response and words of encouragement.. im going to try and ween myself down slowly then Jump off. Hopefully it won’t be in unbearable.. im worried about work, but hopefully it won’t be so bad if I slowly lower my dose. Thankfully I’m not on an outrageous dose, so I’m hoping a taper won’t be too rough.
@KratomKeith Not gonna lie... it's been HARD. I managed the taper and quitting just fine.... but the remaining motivated to do all that I have to do every day has been a struggle lol. Also, depression... this video connected with me, because I already know I was coping with this shit. So much trauma in my life the last 4 years... but now I'm kinda facing it all at once it seems
@livinginoklahomacityofficial It's amazing how so many of us have the same story. Different characters, different struggles, but the same core story. Energy will be shotty for a few more weeks probably. I forced myself to do everything for a while. Forced myself to workout everyday. Now it's a habit, and something I need to do everyday. Emotions hit me hard the first few weeks. Very hard. A lot of things I had/have to deal with. Just made me realize how I was freaking with them in an unhealthy way. But after a few weeks of cryfests, my emotions stabilized. Not a very scientific term I'm sure, lol, but that's the way it felt. Everything is returning to baseline, and exercise has been the key factor in that, besides quitting K.
@KratomKeith that's awesome man. Bessss believe I've been hitting the gym. Honestly that's something I've always stayed on top of, thankfully. But it's been crucial in dopamine release these last 3 weeks for sure. That and 2 long walks a day.
How long did it take to feel normal again? I use it kind of as a pre workout with coffee. Im worried that ill stop working out if i quit, but i know i really need to stop
It depends how long you've been using and how much. Plus everybody's body chemistry is different. But it took me a month to start feeling normal again. Maybe 3 weeks. My sleep took the longest to get back to normal. Even if it takes 6 months or a year to get back to normal. I would rather start sooner, so in a year I'm absolutely great! Instead of another year an addict. Which I went through 5 years as.
You impress me more and more with these videos . This is well put . You hit the nail on the head . Kratom withdraw is a nightmare. This is my second time going through it and these videos are extremely helpful. Keep it up 👍
Thank you for watching🙏
I will keep it up. I'm glad you quit!
Hey, Keith. Thank you for your videos. I really appreciate it.
I appreciate you watching them bro! 🤜🤛
Thanks buddy. My taper was successful, I dont even know how long its been, I don’t count. But I know its been over a week. No problems except a few sleep issues, but I’m good. Glad to have them chains off. Thanks for the inspiration!!
I got you bro! Great stuff! Feels great to have the chains off.
Very impressed by your victory and how you are describing things and sharing with others. I do hope you never relapse. I think you now know how bad it is…so that’s a damn good prevention. Cheering you on. Awesome job on your videos and your progress.
Thank you very much sir. No relapse in my future!
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Its masking the addiction you had before kratom its filling in the void. I take kratom longest ive personal ever gone not drinking or in jail its not all bad... mood swings and depression at work is better then waking up in jail realllllllllllllly depressed with hope gone. Ive done both
Great video, Keith. I've been trying to find out ehat this underlying issue is for me, too. For my whole life it's always been a challenge to be sober, to be with myself. The ultimate goal is to be comfortable with yourself.
I can't agree more. But I changed my view on that a little bit. I've accepted that some days won't be as comfortable, or happy, they might even be bad days. And I will accept these days just as I accept the good days. Buy it was easier to do the soul searching when I was sober. I cried for about 2 weeks straight.
@@StrongKeithJ wow, that's great insight. I agree, it's the days where you don't know why they're bad that are difficult, like sometimes your brain seems against you. Especially hard with mood disorders like bipolar and BPD.
@gracemurrayart I'm sure that adds a whole other level. Yes, sometimes they're just bad days. You are feeling down, insecure, anxious. I've had those days before. I have to admit though, I've had those days more often on kratom. Since I quit I have strengthened my Christian faith, which I understand everyone is not for, but it's great for me. I have also been working out nonstop. Two huge things that help me everyday, and really keep me grinding and motivated.
@@StrongKeithJ that's so great to hear Keith. I get what you mean. My mood swings (bipolar) have been a lot worse and rapid cycling since taking kratom, but it helps so much with the lows so it's like a double edged sword. I agree that God can guide us to the right path, as he has with other addictions in my life. I look forward to following your journey 🙏✝️
@@gracemurrayart I would love to hear about your journey as well. I'll pray for you. Thank you very much. 🙏
Thanks for sharing your progress man! You are truly an inspiration for me. I quit back on June 16th only to relapse after about 10-11 days. Then I went back to daily use up to last Thursday 10/5. Took my last dose at 4:30 PM. Haven’t looked back. I’m about to go for a run and get some lifting in to work on those endorphins. Sleep has been my biggest struggle, but I know it will get a little better each day. Side note: I used to live where you do in CO back from 2004-2007 when I was in the Army. Beautiful place to live. Stay hard my friend and keep posting.
I appreciate that bro! Yes I didn't sleep good for about a month straight. Even then it wasn't great, but it gets better everyday just like you said! Exercise is the key for sure! Colorado is beautiful brother. That's awesome you were here. I'll post soon! 🤜🤛
Im 3 month quitting kratom and comfort meds, what helps me was hydroxyzine as a comfort meds it was non addictive and relieve anxiety and for sleep too.. i took it for 2 weeks after on day 6 withdrawal from kratom to help me sleep and reduce the anxiety.. hope this helps if u feel u r going to relapse
Thank you brother I appreciate that. I'm taking the natural route, no medicine. I took hydroxyzine a couple times in the beginning, I learned that I didn't need it. Took me about a month and a half to get good sleep finally. 6-7 hours. And some nights are better than others. I'm learning to accept the bad days without any self medicating with kratom or anything else.
I’ve been sober off kratom for 10 months now and I miss it everyday it’s a struggle not to relapse kratom caused my gallbladder to go hyperkinetic and I had to get it removed sad but it helped me quit and reminds me why I quit cause now I got 4 big scars on my stomach all because I wanted to have a fun experience without breaking the law
And I don’t blame kratom I can only blame myself I definitely have an addictive personality and should’ve never started in the first place but what happened happened and I can’t change it
That's crazy! I was very worried about stomach problems towards the end. I had terrible constipation for years. I can relate about having a fun experience that was legal.
You're exactly right. What happened, already happened. We can't change it. That's awesome you're at 10 months!
@@StrongKeithJ thanks man it’s a hard struggle but I know I’m not alone the gallbladder problem was entirely my fault however because I was consuming up to 80 grams of kratom daily at the end of my usage it caused a blockage in my gallbladder and I’m lucky I don’t have liver disease or worse overdosed with how much I was using it was a genuine concern that I would die so I’m glad it’s over with!
@gasmaked3485 These were very real concerns of mine as well bro! Still are actually. I need to get blood work and a physical done.
@@StrongKeithJ stay strong bro anything can be overcome with a strong mind
So helpful! Faith is key!!!
Truly is 🙌
Thank you for watching
Proud of u bro! Love it. November we will colab.
Thank you brother! I appreciate it 🤜🤛. November it is
For me it’s bordem
And straight up wanting something else to get through this
Semi charmed kinda life
Baby
Hey I hear you! For me it was necessity. I had to quit.
What are you doing now? Any hobbies or anything taking your time?
@@StrongKeithJ I have a random rash that appears on one side of my face at varying intensity. I feel warm spots on my body almost like a sunburn and I try to rationalize that as side effects. I keep saying I’ll quit tomorrow but then I say one more day
And keep using I’ve dumped my stash hundreds of times
I’m afraid that this shit is killing me
New sub here, thank you
Thank you very much! 🙏🤜🤛
Kratom did its job with you.. if it stopped working and all is negative from it thats it telling you hey were done now..... it did what it was suppose to do i feel Kratom heals and after it heals it stopps working kinda like filling a pool with new water once its full any more is just redundant
Biggest mistake people make with kratom is not using it to get ahead you wait tell your behind to stop that defeats the puropse you should of grown alot on kratom worked o.t csught up on bills and saved... i think it would be easier to let go if u had all the pros of it not squandered kinda like its use to work in hot labor jobs in jungle you dont take kratom to rekax 5 days do no work then wd and start your journey no u go as far as u can without it.... when u normally would of quit tske kratom to get u further then you reach your destination then u stop not other way around no wonder your all depressed
What day do you feel like you were good enough mentally to work? I have been on Kratom a year and I used it to kick methadone(at a clinic). I was using actual opiates/opioids for 16 years. The only break I had was during rehab in 2011 for 4 months. I kicked methadone cold turkey in rehab with zero medications to help. Took me 2 weeks to sleep even a minute and that’s no BS… I ended up getting back on opiates after rehab and then went back to a methadone years later. I was on just methadone for 7 straight years and decided to quit it without tapering and went straight to Kratom. Methadone to Kratom was a rough transition due to methadone having such a long half life. The Kratom didn’t do anything for 12 days besides help me sleep about 1 hour a night… I have been stuck on Kratom ever since. I kept my dose not too high, but i recently bumped it up when I started a new job. I was taking 5-6 grams twice a day.. now I’m taking 3 doses.. I take roughly 16-18 grams in all each day split into 3 doses… am I just screwed? Before I bumped it up from 10-12 grams I could go 24 hours without it, and my only withdrawal symptom was extreme anxiety… now I’m probably just screwed. The physical haven’t felt too bad compared to what I’ve dealt with in the past with hard opiate withdrawal, but the anxiety and anhedonia destroy me. I’ve dealt with severe anxiety my entire life and it gets amplified when in withdrawal.. im going to try and do a slow taper but I’m worried about trying to get off all substances because it’s been way to damn long… I have tried in the past but my mind keeps me from succeeding. I feel like I need to get my mind right before doing this and I don’t know where to start with that. I know I probably need to speak to a therapist but every single one I’ve talked to hasn’t helped much. Idk. Sorry I’m just rambling.. glad you’re doing well now, brotha.
It's all good to ramble bro, I know how it is. I can only speak for myself, but you're right you have to get your mind right, and that's what I did. I've been wanting to quit for a long time, and I decided to take the jump. It was actually harder than I thought with withdrawals tbh. But I knew that one day it would get better.
I worked for three days in the beginning of the withdrawal, and took one day off in between. Then it was the weekend. The following week I started seeing some light, but I had very low energy, couldn't sleep, and anxiety was pretty high. I haven't taken anything since week 2, which was just non narcotic sleeping pill. I knew that my body had to get back to its regular self on its own. I was right! I don't take anything now! Nothing! And I haven't felt better in so many years! You can do it brother!
@@StrongKeithJ I appreciate the response and words of encouragement.. im going to try and ween myself down slowly then Jump off. Hopefully it won’t be in unbearable.. im worried about work, but hopefully it won’t be so bad if I slowly lower my dose. Thankfully I’m not on an outrageous dose, so I’m hoping a taper won’t be too rough.
@@ryanmarvell793 You'll be fine, I can guarantee. 🤜🤛
@@StrongKeithJ appreciate you
@@ryanmarvell793 🤜🤛
3 weeks no K. After 4 years of daily use, and the last 2 years around 15 - 20 gpd.
That's awesome! How are you feeling??
@KratomKeith Not gonna lie... it's been HARD. I managed the taper and quitting just fine.... but the remaining motivated to do all that I have to do every day has been a struggle lol. Also, depression... this video connected with me, because I already know I was coping with this shit. So much trauma in my life the last 4 years... but now I'm kinda facing it all at once it seems
@livinginoklahomacityofficial It's amazing how so many of us have the same story. Different characters, different struggles, but the same core story.
Energy will be shotty for a few more weeks probably. I forced myself to do everything for a while. Forced myself to workout everyday. Now it's a habit, and something I need to do everyday.
Emotions hit me hard the first few weeks. Very hard. A lot of things I had/have to deal with. Just made me realize how I was freaking with them in an unhealthy way.
But after a few weeks of cryfests, my emotions stabilized. Not a very scientific term I'm sure, lol, but that's the way it felt. Everything is returning to baseline, and exercise has been the key factor in that, besides quitting K.
@KratomKeith that's awesome man. Bessss believe I've been hitting the gym. Honestly that's something I've always stayed on top of, thankfully. But it's been crucial in dopamine release these last 3 weeks for sure. That and 2 long walks a day.
@@livinginoklahomacityofficial Nice! Sounds like you're all over it! 🤜🤛
How long did it take to feel normal again? I use it kind of as a pre workout with coffee. Im worried that ill stop working out if i quit, but i know i really need to stop
It depends how long you've been using and how much. Plus everybody's body chemistry is different. But it took me a month to start feeling normal again. Maybe 3 weeks. My sleep took the longest to get back to normal. Even if it takes 6 months or a year to get back to normal. I would rather start sooner, so in a year I'm absolutely great! Instead of another year an addict. Which I went through 5 years as.
You won't quit working out. You'll find energy to workout you didn't know you had. First couple weeks are sluggish though for sure.
For the life long self medicater sobriety is the next new frontier..it's the next buzz
Legit! It's a rush to know I'm doing all this regular life stuff with no assistance. As lame as that might sound.
@@StrongKeithJit's not lame
@@dontbefooled132 🤜🤛