...... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
.... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
okay after watching most of the video i fully believe that there was no video and their whole goal of creating the most horrible video ever was done through fake reactions instead of actually creating the video. one of the pieces of evidence in support of the video existing i feel actually helps prove it doesn’t. they had no problem with showing gore in the past to people. why would they go out of their way to create the worlds most horrible video only to show it to a couple of people and then destroy it? i think the quote that was displayed at the Emily’s Video exhibit drives the point home. it basically just talks about how we like to feed our morbid curiosity. what better way to call out the morbid curiosity of people than to send them on a wild goose chase for the ultimate gore video that there isn’t a chance they could find bc it didn’t exist in the first place.
I believe they made a fake gore video, but told the actors to act as if it was disgusting and real. Like they reference someone cutting off an ear, so i could easily see it just being a fake head where they cut it apart but it's not real.
@@Greenleaf_ that’s true too, but i feel like they would have to be next level FX people to make a head convincing enough for people to react to the “video” like this. what i think is more likely is that there was some kind of script of what the video is supposed to be created for them to pull info from during the reaction video.
@@jjlucas115 Well that's why i said they were told to treat it as real. This is why their reactions are unnatural since they're pretending it's gross but they know it's fake.
I think they wanted real reactions, which you wouldn't get from actors. I bet it would just some supercut of random videos from live leak or something. Making people believe they have seen a sewer slide is just edge lord bs. They had no control over who saw it, how it influenced them or effected them. It might be some low tier art but it's also an incredibly irresponsible thing for a human to do another human.
@@darkjapan watch their reactions though. that is not a real reaction to something. like compare an Emily’s Video reaction to someone reacting to 2 girls 1 cup or 1 lunatic 1 ice pick.
Nobody is mentioning the Darko Maver project, that part made me sick, I kind of hope the participants never found out they were looking at genuine corpses instead of simulated
plus it’s also messed up and exploitative to use images of real dead people who obviously cannot consent to being used for art, and it’s harmful to their families as well. like imagine going online and seeing your dead relative being framed as an art piece. personally I’d be livid
My belief: it's fake. How come the only person to come out and talk about this video is someone they knew beforehand? Why hasn't anyone else come out and said what was in the video? And conversely, how come no one has exposed it as a hoax? I think they paid a whole bunch of actors to react to a "video" and then made them sign NDAs so they can't talk about it. Great video!
@@BestGuy2103 Yeah, that’s pretty much my theory. Too many of the reactions don’t pass the sniff test, shock and revulsion are hard to fake convincingly and most of these folks clearly don’t have the chops. I’m guessing there was an actual video, probably a clip (or clips) from something like the Guinea Pig or August Underground movies, and the actors were prompted to react as if it were real.
Nah they should be demonized. That chatroom thing they did could have caused actual genuine real life harm to people. No warning, no consent. Disgusting, inexcusable.
I really can't justify their art piece on chat roulette. Those people did not consent to seeing that, even if it was fake. They honestly seem like a unique breed of adrenaline junkies who get high on shocking others.
@@kaleidoscopekayley yea I'm all for weird performance art but i feel like "making people think someone hung themselves and they watched it happen" is.....morally questionable
it's definitely a piece of art, "art" shouldn't be considered a value judgment, but it's definitely unethical and i'm not really sure what it's meant to expose or inquire about anything
@@violetto3219 while I’d agree it’s art, I’d also say there is such a thing as bad art. Their work definitely communicates meaning- emotional communication, commentary on morbid curiosity, etc. so it’s art. Unfortunately lol
There is no artistic merit in going on Chat Roulette and tricking people into thinking they've seen someone kill themselves. That is not a 'line they deemed acceptable', that is the behaviour of your average internet troll who is just fishing for a reaction. While showing the video of gore is boring and overdone as a form of reaction video, at least the people involved were warned before hand and given the chance to stop the video at any time. I would argue they are just a pair of dull people looking for a reaction while knowing they'll never face any real consequences due to the fact they can slap the 'you just don't understand our art' label on it. If your artwork is the equivalent of filming a friend watching a shock video or telling them to google blue waffle, maybe consider the fact that your art is trite and you don't have anything of interest to contribute.
after watching their video of the reactions and considering the fact that people probably weren't as desensitized to stuff like this as people are now, i think its kinda interesting. i think its terrible, but interesting. seeing the first group of people scoff at it and joke about it and then the seriousness of the next person is kind of jarring.
actually some of these peoples reactions are kind of insane, i think people were desensitized even then wtf, im pretty sure a guy continues masturbating off camera at the sight
yeah, ive noticed a lot of gruesome videos out there get chalked up to “art pieces” and swept under the rug. it seems like a cop out at this point to just be disgusting and call it a performance.
The "lore" for the video doesn't really make sense. The "dark web", or whatever existed of it in 2012, has never really been about hosting gore videos. These videos aren't innately illegal so don't have much purpose for that level of security. Especially so in 2012, when it was much easier to see worse things online. The descriptions all make it sound like a creepypasta, particularly reminiscent of Saki Sanobashi because "impossibly scary deep web video".
On the one hand, the purpose of art is to make the observer feel something, whether that's joy, disgust, or anything else. On the other hand, when all you want is to shock other people, what are you really saying other than "Life's not always nice so let me make you feel as uncomfortable as possible"?
There’s a fine line between being a provocateur and a sociopathic troll, and from what I can tell the Mattes have been searching for it their whole life without ever hitting the mark on the artistic side. They’re clearly wealthy and connected enough to lead lives free of serious personal, professional, legal or financial consequences, so I struggle to see their “art” as anything but elitists punching down at regular folks. Their entire raison d’être seems to be doing assholish things, getting away with it, then saying “haha we got away with it, don’t you feel dumb.” Their work doesn’t so much pose questions as it does make the statement that society exists for their own amusement and judgement.
They're just pretentious frauds, I think Kylie is just fence-sitting on them to not make a "controversial" stance of modern art, to not appear "backward".
This is how i feel about those sculptor brothers Jake and Dinos Chapman, that got some scrutiny last year in relation to their link to the Balenciaga scandal, Salma Hayek and Henri Pinault. Salma is about 3 degrees of separation from guys who think sculpting toddlers and children with genitals as facial features is funny and acceptable.
I doubt the video existed, seems like the whole point of the art piece was a commentary on the internet culture of shock videos and of watching other's people pain for entertainment etc, and that message is the point rather than the video itself, so it's not necessary for the video itself to exist. But if there really was a video, it probably was some MDPOPE type shit lol
I first thought that they're acting reacting to something gross as they're all describing something else One says they're going Van Gogh on someone (mutilation, murder) Another one mentions that "this isn't in the spirit of nutrition" and asks the other "are you vegetarian?" (implying eating something gross, meat related) But then I watched one video where a guy says "It's like the movie Alive, but in real life". Turns out 1993's Alive contains scenes of cannibalism. Connecting "Going Van Gogh on his ass" (cutting off an ear) and "this isn't in the spirit of nutrition" and "are you vegetarian", it's likely that if the video actually exists, it's one of cannibalism.
Fake and not even original concept. There were plenty of fake videos people reacted to. They aren't special, unique, or inventive for this... they just wish they were and are trying to convince others of it. They did a piss poor job. It's not even the most famous "not real reaction video" I don't think it's even in the top three, but it's definitely not more popular than 1 gorilla/orangutan 1 blender.
Color me stupid but honestly these guys seem like the lame kind of shock value artists. They aren't even doing anything unique or interesting imo, just simulating scrolling on 4chan's /b/ board or the "wild west" internet of back in the day but I mean, anyone can seek out this weird fucked up morbid curiosity content if they desire, I don't really understand the point of their "art" at all.
They are jut pretentious frauds, their whole schtick is, as other commenter put it, doing @sshole things and getting away with it, you know, "we are so intellectual that the common folk can't understand us". They are the kind of people that make me not take modern artistits seriously.
@@exaq I get your point but to be honest I left that comment because I was kinda disappointed with how mundane the video turned out to be. I expected something more interesting but the jist of it was just: "Couple compiles gore they found online and then convince people to watch it" It's a good premise for a quick reaction but nothing interesting beyond the shock value and nothing half of us haven't already seen imo.
Has anyone tried to match the anonymous people reacting to the video to social media accounts? Maybe one or more of them could be found. Then they could be asked about what they had seen.
I think I recognized at least one, I can't remember the name but he used to do and probably still does weird crazy but interesting args / videos and sometimes he appears on them as actor. One was about a pizza brand / evil corporation and it was covered by the usual channels. He's the guy sitting between some girls that goes away and says "you can hear it" or something like that.
Yep, Pizza Time Pizza / Alex Bale. Just said that bc i recognized him, i don't support the idea to ask them about the video. It could have been some self harm custom video made for them or just instructions by the artists with some hints, in order to create fake reactions. Its not lost media, it's just not important.
How have I never heard of this before! Awesome choice for a video Kylie ❤ Edit: nope, can’t justify the Chat Roulette “art piece” either. Those people didn’t sign up to see someone commit suicide, as opposed to the others who signed up and were warned that the videos were extremely graphic. They didn’t know the hanging was simulated. One of those people even tried to call the police (good on them).
I can't imagine how the people who did see it reacted either, like how hard it must have affected them. When a server I modded at the time got raided people sent gif of Ronnie McNut's suicide, it still sticks with me seeing it despite the fact that most of my screen was covered when I saw it. I hope the people who were forced to particpate in that "project" are okay now.
@@MercuryKurogane damn, that’s messed up. Sorry you had to see that :( I personally think it’s super disrespectful to Ronnie’s loved ones, having edge lords spread that around solely for shock value. I hope they’re okay too. I just don’t see how these two thought this was going to be any type of productive, other than traumatizing people and parading it as “art”. It’s cheap.
The "Snow, blood and branches" reference sounds like it might have been part of the Dnepropetrovsk video. She mentioned Russia too. Early internet days were pretty fucked up.
Honestly I think the Darko Maver project went even more far than No Fun. Tricking someone into thinking they just saw a dead body is pretty screwed already, but at least it's not real. Showing supposed wax sculptures only to reveal later that those "sculptures" were actual dead people is just not ok.
So I’ve been binge watching all the reaction videos and I wanted to note something. In Ben’s reaction video ( th-cam.com/video/UQZQa0iCnPQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mHVqOGFa-Pv6dEeq ) you can hear @ 33 seconds in that video some voices and groaning. And I believe that audio comes from Three Guys, One Hammer. Just based on what I remember from that video. Perhaps this was the video they were all reacting to. Or maybe it was a gore mix like MDPOPE. Still harrowing either way.
You can also hear someone edited some ambient pads onto the sound. Of course we have no way of knowing whether the original video had that or that eva & franco added it, unless we'd find an original gore video with the same audio. I haven't seen 1 lunatic 1 icepick, but True Faith by New Order plays in the background on that video. That song has loud drums, but if it's played in the same room, rather than edited on top, they could be droned out by reverb and noise. Edit: Nevermind, just went to check out that video and it can't be the same audio we hear in Ben's reaction video.
i feel like there would be nothing to really gain from knowing the contents of the video, the mysterious aspect would disappear but also the "answer" would probably feel disappointing because it's probably nothing else than random gore and gross stuff, it's kinda like bad whodunnits where the answer to the mystery is "it was this guy" and you're like "hm yeah okay so it was this guy and not these other guys" and it just feels so uninteresting because it could have been any guy and there's nothing that makes it being this specific guy more interesting or satisfying
@@Sandy-on3ev Well something I noticed is that obviously people watched the video willingly. They found the invitation and accepted it. That's why none of them are reacting too horribly because they know what they were getting themselves into
Did anyone else lowkey get defensive for a second at 13:24 when she said "why did you click on this video?" LMAO like girl I'm a fan!!! not many creators I trust to take me through a topic like this without getting Upset™ but this was fun. I had fun, I think
yeah lol i initially didnt care to click on the video when it was suggested to me the first time but im bored and have nothing else to do and i saw her name under it so i was like 'yeah sure'
It's definitely performance art. The "reactors" are there to provide context to our imagination of what the video is showing. We the viewer are providing what they're reacting to. They're reacting to our imagination and how we feel based on their reactions is the goal.
Ok this is the second video I'm seeing from you. Liked the special Christmas gift video and decided to check more out. You sold me with the surfshark add and the whole Black Dahlia Murder reference. Expected to hear the same ol Netflix in another country line and it threw me for the loop.
I hate that that used to be shocking, and now I just see dead people, children, infants, on a daily basis on instagram or twitter.. I don't know if I should feel.. "thankful" that I essentially microdosed on that as a teen on the internet..? that kind of art wouldn't mean anything to me now hm..
people say this a lot but I'm 20 and I've never seen gore on the internet once... I use Instagram and twitter all the time. I don't know how y'all get so unlucky
@@colorbar.s good for you to be honest. c: I didn't see it was going to be everyone's experience it depends partly of what parts of the world you turn your interest towards..
how tf do you just see it on twitter and instagram that often? i’ve came across some disgusting shit as well but you would have to be looking out for it to see it that often lmao
how tf do you just see it on twitter and instagram that often? i’ve came across some disgusting shit as well but you would have to be looking out for it to see it that often lmao
@funkunko a friend of mine, became absolutely unhinged and shared hundreds of photos of aborted fetus body parts and a child with their head smashed open on FACEBOOK!!! It was up for over six months, I reported it for gore multiple times and Facebook denied the report. It's incredibly easy to just stumble upon unfortunately, even somewhere "safe". Some of the most gorey photos I've ever seen and they were on frigging Facebook
My take is that Emily’s Video is an ethical (and genius) work of modern art. That Chatroulette piece, though? Neither good art or ethical. It’s the same thing as Emily’s Video but dumbed down to the point of incoherence.
When presented with the question of whether shock videos could be considered art, I try to think of the person who is making them. We all knew that annoying kid in high school who constantly said or did gross shit with the intention of getting a reaction out of others because their personality was trash and it was the only way they could get attention. I find it extremely hard to believe that the Mattes see some deeper, psychological meaning in their works, I think it's a lot more likely that two of those assholes from high school met and became the most toxic couple known to man. Art is subjective, but getting someone to react to something gross with "ew gross" doesn't really come across as art to me.
What these so called "artists" dont seem to understand is that art itself is nuanced. Art becomes art, because it evokes feelings from you through things that dont explicitly try to do that. Art is an emotional and spiritual transmitter, like a painting that lets you feel what the artist felt creating it, while still being impressive to look at. See, i can draw upset lines on a paper, but it will not make it art, even though you could feel the frustration behind it. An artist creates something impressive with an emotional charge, real artwork has an atmosphere, but not mandatorily a message. These people didnt do art. This isn't art. This is just some sickos curious about human reactions to their bullshit, but so many people do that every day on the internet without calling themselves artists..
Art doesn’t have a point, that’s the whole point, you do art because you want to, it’s just a form of human expression, it doesn’t need to be or do anything, even if you don’t like it or it’s unethical it’s still art
@@aalthesuppe Well you still didnt define what counts as art. Doing something (or in this case anything) is not art in itself. It need to have some sort of skill and technique behind it, otherwise its just bullshitery, just like this project. See, once i was sitting in a huge bus station with some people being inside with me, i rolled myself a cigarette out of simple paper, some tabacco and an improvised tip, while being dressed up like someone who could buy cigarettes for the whole city, but this in itself is not art. The art comes from me writing a funny, yet interestingly written poem afterwards about the peoples reaction, the atmosphere of the place and just the situation itself. For this you need to see the world with the so called petite perception, and you need to be able to transfer these thoughts and feelings into some sort of creation. As i said art is nuanced, it is about the small details, and it is built up by many different skillsets and experiences. What they did is nothing else but going to a university, making connections in the so called art elite (thats why we are here watching a video about it), while not understanding shit about what is actual art, so they grabbed the most superficial and pretentious way of creating "art" and rolled with it.
@@realbr1koo If you want me to define what I count as art, I’d say anything that is labelled as art, once someone says something is art, it is, if someone handed me a sandwich and said it was art, I’d accept it, I’d maybe think it was stupid but I cant deny that it’s now art once someone has perceived it as such, call it pretentious but that’s how I see it, basing artist value on ‘skill’ is stupid, skill isn’t something that can be measured with art, all art looks different and there’s no right way to do it, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and if someone thinks a sandwich displays the complexity and monotonous nature of everyday life and another thinks it’s just a sandwich so be it, art is subjective and that’s the beauty in it, at least to me (also just doing something IS art, it’s called performance art!)
@@aalthesuppe You said it, your viewpoint is pretentious. Performance art is not doing anything, but doing something truly extraordinary. Performance art is when Banksy sells his most famous piece on canvas, and as soon as its bought he shreds it through the frame. Or when he changed out album covers in a supermarkt to say some wacky stuff about the musicians. But this needed planning, actual artistic vein and execution, and the situation itself. It made people think, and admire his art, but it wasnt just retarded shocking of people which was after cut together in a video. Thats like, nothing.
I am extremely not ok with the fake suicide stuff. People who witness such things are more likely to fall into doing so themselves and having it haunt them forever. I understand not condemning them as people, but there is a chance they caused real harm with their "art".
emilys video is the best "internet mystery" ive ever seen. if only there was an actual internet mystery of a lost video that only survived through reaction videos.
I personally think Emily’s video is fake. The reactions really seemed like the reactions you’d get if you told someone to pretend to be shocked by something. Compare it to a normal shock video reaction on TH-cam, they’re usually visually uncomfortable and shocked, the people in this look like they’re trying to act like they’re uncomfortable and shocked. It would also seem more up their alley to hoax the whole thing as a commentary on reaction videos than to just post a bunch of standard shock video reactions that you could find anywhere else.
Making people believe they had seen a sewer slide is just edge lord bs. They had no control over who saw it, how it influenced them or effected them. It might be some low tier art but it's also an incredibly irresponsible thing for a human to do another human. It shows a lack of empathy on their part. "Im going to do this shocking thing because its art." It doesn't really make anyone think about the subject matter on any deep level either. Live streamed sewer slides have been a part of the internet since webcams. The project says nothing more than "Wouldnt it be terrible if you saw this?" Its no different from those "Its just a prank bro!" style garbage. As for the 2G1C ripp off I think they wanted real reactions, which you wouldn't get from actors. I bet it would just some supercut of random videos from live leak or something.
The last thing i expected during that ad read was a The Black Dahlia Murder shout-out, but it is surely a welcome surprise. Good to know that at least some of the people I watch have good music taste.
@@sombertoboggly I accidentally found them because of What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse. I am a big Castlevania fan and boy was I surprised when I found that song thinking I was getting something Castlevania related. But I enjoyed it and to this day still listen to them.
@Stang2023that was my thought but considering that the article mentions there were humorous things cut in it’s possible it was a bunch of stuff edited together. It's also possible that there was no one video at all and they showed everyone something different.
What a fascinating tale, yet again from you. Where do you find such things? Yet again youve cooked so good, i love this channel! Glad ive been here since the beginning!
Is it possible they played that disgusting “two guys one ice pick” or whatever it was called. My friend watched it when it was first uploaded because people didn’t think it was real. I don’t remember when Luka Magnotta was caught, but that’s the only once accessible snuff film I can think of
@Stang2023what is the definition then? Bc from what i Can google its “a pornographic film or video recording of an actual murder” some others say “a violent film that shows a real murder” Wich Im pretty sure that video (if it existed) does show that
@Stang2023 ok. Yes i do see that then it doesnt actually fit the definition. I think since there are many different definition tho it depends on wich one you use. In this case i think the above person looked at it through the more general lense and not the FBI specific one. The websites i specifically looked at was like Cambridge dictionary and Oxfords. So yes i know google in itself is not a source but yk it was apart of a google search :)
@@josepablodeleon6073I doubt there's an NDA it's just a random video from the dark web unless they made it themselves but they're not In jail and seem like nice people so I'll give it The benefit of the doubt
Your conclusion reminds me of the game Disco Elysium, less intense but that idea that unkown breeds desire and curiosity, so to leave the games ending like it did was to make the audience think andnwonder what could happen next
considering there are movies out there like faces of death , earthlings and mondo cane - i don't know why people think it was all fake. from what I gathered in this video it was likely a compilation of really bad gore stuff. the internet is full of those. that's it. i do think the reactions are more interesting without knowing what it is.
Given that it was 2012 and reaction videos were a thing. If the video was real, I doubt they had to look very far to make something disturbing. It was the age of Live Leak compilations, and could easily find terrible stuff on 4 chan. I have my doubts about the reactions being faked, some seemed really invested, and that's hard to fake.
before i saw the video, i thought it was possible there was never a video. but knowing what i know now, i'd bet on the pair showing people SOMETHING, even if it was different videos, even if it was original, real or fake snuff, etc. they are very committed to the art piece and will definitely never tell, and it certainly helps prove their point to speculate. i think trying to line up all the reaction videos to specific moments could help determine if it IS one video or maybe multiple, but the only real way to get concrete evidence of what went down would be to talk to one of the reactors. i wouldn't trust a friend of theirs writing an article as concrete proof of anything unless we have a good reason to believe they wrote a genuine piece and not just something to help bolster the exhibit.
for sure they were shown something, whatever it was. It would be so difficult to react at the exact same time in the exact same way as someone next to you when you're focusing so hard on the screen like that
It's refreshing for someone on the Internet to be able to say, "I don't think what they did was okay" about somebody's actions without condemning them as people. Sure, some people who've done *really* horrible things deserve to be judged harshly. But I've read way too many comments saying a merely rude or flawed person is a "terrible human" and seen way too many videos about "why I'm done with [slightly problematic figure]". Being able to have a moral position on something someone did, without feeling like you need to either write them off or defend them to the death, is a real sign of maturity. I wish more people adopted a perspective like Kylie's here.
I get what you're saying, but studies show that people who have witnessed suicide are more likely to commit it themselves and it can do permanent damage to an individual's psyche. It's not just being slightly problematic if you potentially contribute to someone self harming because of just trying to get shock value out of them without them knowing it's coming. While some people may be more resilient to it, enough people aren't that it's a very, very bad idea to go around without regard for how you are affecting others with it.
I don't think it's ethical. Let's say it's real and that there really is a real video that the duo showed people who were willing to watch. I don't think using someone else's death for entertainment and an "art project" without the express consent of the person who supposedly was murdered is moral. Either way, it's not like we know whether or not these volunteers to watch Emily's Video are good people or not. That's not something that's really able to be judged based on just a reaction to a video (that may not even exist) from over a decade ago.
Never heard of this internet story, interesting. To me shock value is okay when it is in a story and the shocking event moves the story forward. So much media has a hard time doing shock value to make the story move forward or to make a character grow... they just do it to get a strong reaction, one without purpose.
I have studied a ton of artists and performance artists many who do unusual things in pursuit of art while I was in university. I can see what they were thinking when coming up with this idea, perhaps the fact that a lot of these reaction videos were popular around that time and the types of horrific videos that everyone was watching in them/ the edgyness of that era’s media possibly because of this type of shock media being popular and people being desensitized to it, I think that they wanted to comment on that with this project. I think that it was amicable for them to at least have consenting volunteers to go through with this project, it’s much better in my eyes than the one they did on chat roulette. Honestly even though the chat one intrigues me about what the thought was behind it I think that it is one of the most cruel things performance artists have done that I have ever heard about. I do think that it was unethical to source videos for this video from the dark web, I wonder if they paid for existing videos off of it or paid anyone, or even visiting the pages of bad actors on there could have potentially given support to people who make real not safe for life content, it could have been anything from animal abuse and de*th to humans getting gravelly injured or even more serious, there could possibly have been a few that were special effects and totally fabricated but there probably was some reality ones in the video too. I think that it would have been something if they had fully fabricated all of the videos Hollywood horror movie style, maybe it would have been more ethical. 2 g**ls 1c*p was totally fabricated and it was actually relevant around that time too and notorious for being a shock video that a lot of young people would dare their friends to see (without their consent no doubt, I think that was awful), it would have been interesting but pretty expensive and probably near impossible for them to construct multiple videos of staged g*re of different kinds to put into their awful compilation of horrors it probably was financially impossible for them to do that. I think that it’s at least a plus that they warn potential volunteers how awful the video would be and that they were self aware about the whole situation, possibly unlike the chat experiment that they pulled in my honest opinion, you have to lack an amount of self awareness to do something so insensitive (yes even for that time there’s no good excuse).
I’ll admit it does pique my interest. Just based on the reactions alone. Also funny how the peaceful music can sound absolutely horrifying based on context
FWIW, I clicked on this because I'd somehow never heard of this, despite being very active online since the mid-1990s and in my 40s in 2012. It would be interesting if any of the people in the reaction videos spoke up about what they saw (unless, of course, they had to sign NDAs)...
i recognized the music in the video they were watching instantly and i checked the music i was thinking of and now i'm very sure it's from popol vuh's soundtrack for werner herzog's movie "aguirre" (ost goes by the same name). it's a movie dealing with heavy topics like colonialism and incest but isn't overtly graphic. which means the people who made the actual shockvideo either ripped the music or it was relicensed for the video like if it's a clip from a longer movie. maybe this helps finding it.
Sounds like they are using the term 'art' as a way of legitimizing what anyone else would call trolling or immoral behavior. I don't think Emily's Video is real, and the Chat Roulette 'piece' is purely taking advantage of people in the worst way possible. Glad they're widely unknown.
@11:41 Tonedeff was one of the reactors to this video?!! He's my favorite rapper of all time (and unquestionably the most skilled and mathematically the fastest without any mumbling crap). I've been to NYC twice for concerts with him and got to meet and have drinks with him and some of the other performers after the second show. What was exactly on this video would have been a great question to ask him while he was still doing his Tacos & Chocolate Milk podcast with PackFM. I bet he'd be willing to share what was on that video. Clearly he's no stranger to the internet as he's like "oh no, not this" as he'd clearly seen whatever that was before. Anyway, just thought that was an awesome/hilarious coincidence to see that he was part of this. I know I'll certainly be asking what he remembers from this next time I get to NYC. Finally an internet mystery that I have a real shot at personally solving. Though judging from just that clip of him reacting to it I guarantee it's just a compilation of tons of videos that real internet dwellers have seen passed around for awhile now. So if you showed it to me or him then it's just going to be either laughter or "fuck, not this again" types of reactions to these videos. Nothing groundbreakingly terrible I'm sure.
I saw 1 Man 1 Icepick when I was 14 after watching a video about snuff. This was my first time ever looking for something real and graphic. I don't remember much about the video now but it was on my mind for about 2 weeks until I forgot about it.
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That poor guy who called the police. What a terrible thing to think you have seen.
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There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
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Come to Jesus Christ today
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Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
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okay after watching most of the video i fully believe that there was no video and their whole goal of creating the most horrible video ever was done through fake reactions instead of actually creating the video.
one of the pieces of evidence in support of the video existing i feel actually helps prove it doesn’t. they had no problem with showing gore in the past to people. why would they go out of their way to create the worlds most horrible video only to show it to a couple of people and then destroy it?
i think the quote that was displayed at the Emily’s Video exhibit drives the point home. it basically just talks about how we like to feed our morbid curiosity. what better way to call out the morbid curiosity of people than to send them on a wild goose chase for the ultimate gore video that there isn’t a chance they could find bc it didn’t exist in the first place.
I believe they made a fake gore video, but told the actors to act as if it was disgusting and real. Like they reference someone cutting off an ear, so i could easily see it just being a fake head where they cut it apart but it's not real.
@@Greenleaf_ that’s true too, but i feel like they would have to be next level FX people to make a head convincing enough for people to react to the “video” like this. what i think is more likely is that there was some kind of script of what the video is supposed to be created for them to pull info from during the reaction video.
@@jjlucas115 Well that's why i said they were told to treat it as real. This is why their reactions are unnatural since they're pretending it's gross but they know it's fake.
I think they wanted real reactions, which you wouldn't get from actors. I bet it would just some supercut of random videos from live leak or something.
Making people believe they have seen a sewer slide is just edge lord bs. They had no control over who saw it, how it influenced them or effected them. It might be some low tier art but it's also an incredibly irresponsible thing for a human to do another human.
@@darkjapan watch their reactions though. that is not a real reaction to something. like compare an Emily’s Video reaction to someone reacting to 2 girls 1 cup or 1 lunatic 1 ice pick.
Nobody is mentioning the Darko Maver project, that part made me sick, I kind of hope the participants never found out they were looking at genuine corpses instead of simulated
they weren’t wax and rubber?
@GggGgg-o1q no, they lied to the participants and showed them actual murder scenes
@@jerryveve3397 oh 🫢
plus it’s also messed up and exploitative to use images of real dead people who obviously cannot consent to being used for art, and it’s harmful to their families as well. like imagine going online and seeing your dead relative being framed as an art piece. personally I’d be livid
My belief: it's fake. How come the only person to come out and talk about this video is someone they knew beforehand? Why hasn't anyone else come out and said what was in the video? And conversely, how come no one has exposed it as a hoax? I think they paid a whole bunch of actors to react to a "video" and then made them sign NDAs so they can't talk about it. Great video!
@@BestGuy2103 Yeah, that’s pretty much my theory. Too many of the reactions don’t pass the sniff test, shock and revulsion are hard to fake convincingly and most of these folks clearly don’t have the chops. I’m guessing there was an actual video, probably a clip (or clips) from something like the Guinea Pig or August Underground movies, and the actors were prompted to react as if it were real.
Agreed.
Emily's video has the "Have you seen This man"... Fake
@@MrBeardsleyidk they look pretty realistic - usually when people try to fake shock they overreact
@@henriquejambupaid actors can fake a reaction just fine
Nah they should be demonized. That chatroom thing they did could have caused actual genuine real life harm to people. No warning, no consent. Disgusting, inexcusable.
I really can't justify their art piece on chat roulette. Those people did not consent to seeing that, even if it was fake. They honestly seem like a unique breed of adrenaline junkies who get high on shocking others.
@@kaleidoscopekayley yea I'm all for weird performance art but i feel like "making people think someone hung themselves and they watched it happen" is.....morally questionable
Yuuup, and even those who consented it’s like… woooooaaahhhh, people were shocked when shown gore?
BWUH?? HUH?? WHAAAT????
@@axolotlfairy2473 right! because we have video evidence that people thought it was real! they were on the phone with the police!
it's definitely a piece of art, "art" shouldn't be considered a value judgment, but it's definitely unethical and i'm not really sure what it's meant to expose or inquire about anything
@@violetto3219 while I’d agree it’s art, I’d also say there is such a thing as bad art. Their work definitely communicates meaning- emotional communication, commentary on morbid curiosity, etc. so it’s art.
Unfortunately lol
There is no artistic merit in going on Chat Roulette and tricking people into thinking they've seen someone kill themselves. That is not a 'line they deemed acceptable', that is the behaviour of your average internet troll who is just fishing for a reaction. While showing the video of gore is boring and overdone as a form of reaction video, at least the people involved were warned before hand and given the chance to stop the video at any time.
I would argue they are just a pair of dull people looking for a reaction while knowing they'll never face any real consequences due to the fact they can slap the 'you just don't understand our art' label on it. If your artwork is the equivalent of filming a friend watching a shock video or telling them to google blue waffle, maybe consider the fact that your art is trite and you don't have anything of interest to contribute.
after watching their video of the reactions and considering the fact that people probably weren't as desensitized to stuff like this as people are now, i think its kinda interesting. i think its terrible, but interesting. seeing the first group of people scoff at it and joke about it and then the seriousness of the next person is kind of jarring.
actually some of these peoples reactions are kind of insane, i think people were desensitized even then wtf, im pretty sure a guy continues masturbating off camera at the sight
yeah, ive noticed a lot of gruesome videos out there get chalked up to “art pieces” and swept under the rug. it seems like a cop out at this point to just be disgusting and call it a performance.
The "lore" for the video doesn't really make sense. The "dark web", or whatever existed of it in 2012, has never really been about hosting gore videos. These videos aren't innately illegal so don't have much purpose for that level of security. Especially so in 2012, when it was much easier to see worse things online. The descriptions all make it sound like a creepypasta, particularly reminiscent of Saki Sanobashi because "impossibly scary deep web video".
These artists sound like insufferable edgelords with very little to say.
On the one hand, the purpose of art is to make the observer feel something, whether that's joy, disgust, or anything else. On the other hand, when all you want is to shock other people, what are you really saying other than "Life's not always nice so let me make you feel as uncomfortable as possible"?
Kylie coming in clutch when i have no youtube videos to watch
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Ditto
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isn’t it funny how there’s thousands of objectively great videos in whichever genre we like, but we can’t find a single one worth watching?
@@Particular-Win-2113 another rain worlder??
There’s a fine line between being a provocateur and a sociopathic troll, and from what I can tell the Mattes have been searching for it their whole life without ever hitting the mark on the artistic side. They’re clearly wealthy and connected enough to lead lives free of serious personal, professional, legal or financial consequences, so I struggle to see their “art” as anything but elitists punching down at regular folks. Their entire raison d’être seems to be doing assholish things, getting away with it, then saying “haha we got away with it, don’t you feel dumb.” Their work doesn’t so much pose questions as it does make the statement that society exists for their own amusement and judgement.
that's a beautiful way of saying they are rich kids with little to no real talent so they have to create attention doing stupid shit
Ok Bud.
Well said, definitely comes across as a weird sort of hedonism that only elite people would be able to do
They're just pretentious frauds, I think Kylie is just fence-sitting on them to not make a "controversial" stance of modern art, to not appear "backward".
This is how i feel about those sculptor brothers Jake and Dinos Chapman, that got some scrutiny last year in relation to their link to the Balenciaga scandal, Salma Hayek and Henri Pinault.
Salma is about 3 degrees of separation from guys who think sculpting toddlers and children with genitals as facial features is funny and acceptable.
Jonathan Frakes: Did such a video exist? No way, it never happened!
'So, was "Emily's Video" real? ...Or are our writers just trying to... get a reaction out of you?'
_[Grins devilishly and recedes into indoor fog]_
“This one was invented by a writer”
@@connorholt3808 'A similar event took place.'
We made it up.
God I can hear each reply so perfectly in my head.
I doubt the video existed, seems like the whole point of the art piece was a commentary on the internet culture of shock videos and of watching other's people pain for entertainment etc, and that message is the point rather than the video itself, so it's not necessary for the video itself to exist. But if there really was a video, it probably was some MDPOPE type shit lol
What's MDpope
@@Slicedude2004 Most Disturbed Person On Planet Earth. Some guy who makes compilations of shock videos.
I was thinking the same thing
I first thought that they're acting reacting to something gross as they're all describing something else
One says they're going Van Gogh on someone (mutilation, murder)
Another one mentions that "this isn't in the spirit of nutrition" and asks the other "are you vegetarian?" (implying eating something gross, meat related)
But then I watched one video where a guy says "It's like the movie Alive, but in real life". Turns out 1993's Alive contains scenes of cannibalism. Connecting "Going Van Gogh on his ass" (cutting off an ear) and "this isn't in the spirit of nutrition" and "are you vegetarian", it's likely that if the video actually exists, it's one of cannibalism.
Maybe it's someone being mutilated in the snow then being eaten various body pieces. The playdough makes sense too because of like flesh pieces
I think you got it.
Also that guy saying “I saw someone open like that” so yeah, I feel like it’s probably someone eating organs or something
Fake and not even original concept. There were plenty of fake videos people reacted to. They aren't special, unique, or inventive for this... they just wish they were and are trying to convince others of it.
They did a piss poor job. It's not even the most famous "not real reaction video" I don't think it's even in the top three, but it's definitely not more popular than 1 gorilla/orangutan 1 blender.
0:40 Damn, hitting us with that Halls of Tortured Souls! What a callback to old Easter eggs in random programs.
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Color me stupid but honestly these guys seem like the lame kind of shock value artists. They aren't even doing anything unique or interesting imo, just simulating scrolling on 4chan's /b/ board or the "wild west" internet of back in the day but I mean, anyone can seek out this weird fucked up morbid curiosity content if they desire, I don't really understand the point of their "art" at all.
They are jut pretentious frauds, their whole schtick is, as other commenter put it, doing @sshole things and getting away with it, you know, "we are so intellectual that the common folk can't understand us". They are the kind of people that make me not take modern artistits seriously.
if they weren't doing anything unique or interesting they wouldn't get videos like this made about their art
@@exaq I get your point but to be honest I left that comment because I was kinda disappointed with how mundane the video turned out to be. I expected something more interesting but the jist of it was just:
"Couple compiles gore they found online and then convince people to watch it"
It's a good premise for a quick reaction but nothing interesting beyond the shock value and nothing half of us haven't already seen imo.
@@Florilegium1cringe
@@Florilegium1this has nothing to do with men lmao
This is what "artists" have to do when they have no talent
Has anyone tried to match the anonymous people reacting to the video to social media accounts? Maybe one or more of them could be found. Then they could be asked about what they had seen.
I think I recognized at least one, I can't remember the name but he used to do and probably still does weird crazy but interesting args / videos and sometimes he appears on them as actor. One was about a pizza brand / evil corporation and it was covered by the usual channels. He's the guy sitting between some girls that goes away and says "you can hear it" or something like that.
@@synthzz9178was it pizza time pizza?
@@bazxl8275*PIZZA TIME PIZZA IS NOT A CULT*
@@synthzz9178Alex Bale
Yep, Pizza Time Pizza / Alex Bale. Just said that bc i recognized him, i don't support the idea to ask them about the video. It could have been some self harm custom video made for them or just instructions by the artists with some hints, in order to create fake reactions. Its not lost media, it's just not important.
Living with an artist like this, I don't think that TWO artists like this should ever get together. Will someone check their backyard?
Shocked Whang hasn't covered this topic yet, or the fact you didn't team up with him here
Agreed, this feels like a very Whang topic
Coz nothingburger
Didn't you hear? Whang showed his wang on the internet and people found it. It's all ogre now.
How have I never heard of this before! Awesome choice for a video Kylie ❤
Edit: nope, can’t justify the Chat Roulette “art piece” either. Those people didn’t sign up to see someone commit suicide, as opposed to the others who signed up and were warned that the videos were extremely graphic. They didn’t know the hanging was simulated. One of those people even tried to call the police (good on them).
I can't imagine how the people who did see it reacted either, like how hard it must have affected them. When a server I modded at the time got raided people sent gif of Ronnie McNut's suicide, it still sticks with me seeing it despite the fact that most of my screen was covered when I saw it. I hope the people who were forced to particpate in that "project" are okay now.
@@MercuryKurogane damn, that’s messed up. Sorry you had to see that :( I personally think it’s super disrespectful to Ronnie’s loved ones, having edge lords spread that around solely for shock value.
I hope they’re okay too. I just don’t see how these two thought this was going to be any type of productive, other than traumatizing people and parading it as “art”. It’s cheap.
I really hope that guy that called got closure :(
The "Snow, blood and branches" reference sounds like it might have been part of the Dnepropetrovsk video. She mentioned Russia too. Early internet days were pretty fucked up.
Yeah, only Dnepropetrovsk is in Ukraine and they are Ukrainians.
@@kdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkdkd Putin would like a word with you
I’m sick of people doing something and thinking it’s art.
Kylie wdym why did i click on this video I clicked cause you made it 😭😭
Honestly I think the Darko Maver project went even more far than No Fun. Tricking someone into thinking they just saw a dead body is pretty screwed already, but at least it's not real. Showing supposed wax sculptures only to reveal later that those "sculptures" were actual dead people is just not ok.
So I’ve been binge watching all the reaction videos and I wanted to note something. In Ben’s reaction video ( th-cam.com/video/UQZQa0iCnPQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mHVqOGFa-Pv6dEeq ) you can hear @ 33 seconds in that video some voices and groaning. And I believe that audio comes from Three Guys, One Hammer. Just based on what I remember from that video. Perhaps this was the video they were all reacting to. Or maybe it was a gore mix like MDPOPE. Still harrowing either way.
Correct
What is a MDPOPE ??
Most Disturbing Person On Planet Earth is a gore mixtape that features internet’s most shocking videos
You can also hear someone edited some ambient pads onto the sound. Of course we have no way of knowing whether the original video had that or that eva & franco added it, unless we'd find an original gore video with the same audio. I haven't seen 1 lunatic 1 icepick, but True Faith by New Order plays in the background on that video. That song has loud drums, but if it's played in the same room, rather than edited on top, they could be droned out by reverb and noise. Edit: Nevermind, just went to check out that video and it can't be the same audio we hear in Ben's reaction video.
Probably just BME pain olympics
Or Faces of Death or a similar mix tape. If it's real at all.
Kind of like that Monkey video that people swear it was true but it wasnt
Yes! That’s immediately what I thought of too
Wanted to say it, this seems like the exact same thing
@@latinourbano 3 orangutans 1 blender right?
@@axolotlfairy2473yeah
Ngl I thought that's what this was the entire time. I think that fake video reaction trend came out before this so it's very likely a play on it.
i feel like there would be nothing to really gain from knowing the contents of the video, the mysterious aspect would disappear but also the "answer" would probably feel disappointing because it's probably nothing else than random gore and gross stuff, it's kinda like bad whodunnits where the answer to the mystery is "it was this guy" and you're like "hm yeah okay so it was this guy and not these other guys" and it just feels so uninteresting because it could have been any guy and there's nothing that makes it being this specific guy more interesting or satisfying
Honestly I just wanna know because of the snow setting, makes it kinda interesting to me
All comments would be by badass internet dudes saying they lolled the whole time..
@@Sandy-on3ev Well something I noticed is that obviously people watched the video willingly. They found the invitation and accepted it. That's why none of them are reacting too horribly because they know what they were getting themselves into
Despite this being a dark video I must say you’re choice of music is amazing
The black dahlia murder is a great band!
At this point the average reddit iceberg will probably have stuff worse than in the video
i dig the royal blood pfp 🤘🤘
Did anyone else lowkey get defensive for a second at 13:24 when she said "why did you click on this video?" LMAO like girl I'm a fan!!!
not many creators I trust to take me through a topic like this without getting Upset™ but this was fun. I had fun, I think
same
I'd never even heard about this before I wanted to learn
yeah lol i initially didnt care to click on the video when it was suggested to me the first time but im bored and have nothing else to do and i saw her name under it so i was like 'yeah sure'
The reaction of "He's getting Van Gogh on his ass" at 11:49 was honestly really funny to me
And great video, as always
They are sadists masquerading as artists, and laughing at the people who eat their spiel up. Lol
It's definitely performance art. The "reactors" are there to provide context to our imagination of what the video is showing. We the viewer are providing what they're reacting to. They're reacting to our imagination and how we feel based on their reactions is the goal.
But what about the one people who have a description? And the song?
it probably was a cut of some random gore mixtape
Ok this is the second video I'm seeing from you. Liked the special Christmas gift video and decided to check more out. You sold me with the surfshark add and the whole Black Dahlia Murder reference. Expected to hear the same ol Netflix in another country line and it threw me for the loop.
hell yeah lol, they're my favorite band ever, i just went to the night shift merch store in ormond the other week while i was on vacation!
I hate that that used to be shocking, and now I just see dead people, children, infants, on a daily basis on instagram or twitter.. I don't know if I should feel.. "thankful" that I essentially microdosed on that as a teen on the internet..? that kind of art wouldn't mean anything to me now hm..
people say this a lot but I'm 20 and I've never seen gore on the internet once... I use Instagram and twitter all the time. I don't know how y'all get so unlucky
@@colorbar.s good for you to be honest. c:
I didn't see it was going to be everyone's experience
it depends partly of what parts of the world you turn your interest towards..
how tf do you just see it on twitter and instagram that often? i’ve came across some disgusting shit as well but you would have to be looking out for it to see it that often lmao
how tf do you just see it on twitter and instagram that often? i’ve came across some disgusting shit as well but you would have to be looking out for it to see it that often lmao
@funkunko a friend of mine, became absolutely unhinged and shared hundreds of photos of aborted fetus body parts and a child with their head smashed open on FACEBOOK!!! It was up for over six months, I reported it for gore multiple times and Facebook denied the report. It's incredibly easy to just stumble upon unfortunately, even somewhere "safe". Some of the most gorey photos I've ever seen and they were on frigging Facebook
FINALLY, been waiting for another upload
My take is that Emily’s Video is an ethical (and genius) work of modern art. That Chatroulette piece, though? Neither good art or ethical. It’s the same thing as Emily’s Video but dumbed down to the point of incoherence.
I mean ethical from the artists maybe but obviously not people who made the video itself because it was probably death and stuff
When presented with the question of whether shock videos could be considered art, I try to think of the person who is making them. We all knew that annoying kid in high school who constantly said or did gross shit with the intention of getting a reaction out of others because their personality was trash and it was the only way they could get attention. I find it extremely hard to believe that the Mattes see some deeper, psychological meaning in their works, I think it's a lot more likely that two of those assholes from high school met and became the most toxic couple known to man. Art is subjective, but getting someone to react to something gross with "ew gross" doesn't really come across as art to me.
What these so called "artists" dont seem to understand is that art itself is nuanced. Art becomes art, because it evokes feelings from you through things that dont explicitly try to do that. Art is an emotional and spiritual transmitter, like a painting that lets you feel what the artist felt creating it, while still being impressive to look at. See, i can draw upset lines on a paper, but it will not make it art, even though you could feel the frustration behind it. An artist creates something impressive with an emotional charge, real artwork has an atmosphere, but not mandatorily a message.
These people didnt do art. This isn't art. This is just some sickos curious about human reactions to their bullshit, but so many people do that every day on the internet without calling themselves artists..
Art doesn’t have a point, that’s the whole point, you do art because you want to, it’s just a form of human expression, it doesn’t need to be or do anything, even if you don’t like it or it’s unethical it’s still art
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Well you still didnt define what counts as art. Doing something (or in this case anything) is not art in itself. It need to have some sort of skill and technique behind it, otherwise its just bullshitery, just like this project. See, once i was sitting in a huge bus station with some people being inside with me, i rolled myself a cigarette out of simple paper, some tabacco and an improvised tip, while being dressed up like someone who could buy cigarettes for the whole city, but this in itself is not art. The art comes from me writing a funny, yet interestingly written poem afterwards about the peoples reaction, the atmosphere of the place and just the situation itself. For this you need to see the world with the so called petite perception, and you need to be able to transfer these thoughts and feelings into some sort of creation. As i said art is nuanced, it is about the small details, and it is built up by many different skillsets and experiences. What they did is nothing else but going to a university, making connections in the so called art elite (thats why we are here watching a video about it), while not understanding shit about what is actual art, so they grabbed the most superficial and pretentious way of creating "art" and rolled with it.
@@realbr1koo If you want me to define what I count as art, I’d say anything that is labelled as art, once someone says something is art, it is, if someone handed me a sandwich and said it was art, I’d accept it, I’d maybe think it was stupid but I cant deny that it’s now art once someone has perceived it as such, call it pretentious but that’s how I see it, basing artist value on ‘skill’ is stupid, skill isn’t something that can be measured with art, all art looks different and there’s no right way to do it, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and if someone thinks a sandwich displays the complexity and monotonous nature of everyday life and another thinks it’s just a sandwich so be it, art is subjective and that’s the beauty in it, at least to me
(also just doing something IS art, it’s called performance art!)
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You said it, your viewpoint is pretentious. Performance art is not doing anything, but doing something truly extraordinary. Performance art is when Banksy sells his most famous piece on canvas, and as soon as its bought he shreds it through the frame. Or when he changed out album covers in a supermarkt to say some wacky stuff about the musicians. But this needed planning, actual artistic vein and execution, and the situation itself. It made people think, and admire his art, but it wasnt just retarded shocking of people which was after cut together in a video. Thats like, nothing.
I was literally about to re-rewatch an old video but luckily this was posted
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I am extremely not ok with the fake suicide stuff. People who witness such things are more likely to fall into doing so themselves and having it haunt them forever. I understand not condemning them as people, but there is a chance they caused real harm with their "art".
emilys video is the best "internet mystery" ive ever seen. if only there was an actual internet mystery of a lost video that only survived through reaction videos.
Zippocat and the full length chechclear are like that (only preserved by reactions) but they should stay lost
I personally think Emily’s video is fake. The reactions really seemed like the reactions you’d get if you told someone to pretend to be shocked by something. Compare it to a normal shock video reaction on TH-cam, they’re usually visually uncomfortable and shocked, the people in this look like they’re trying to act like they’re uncomfortable and shocked.
It would also seem more up their alley to hoax the whole thing as a commentary on reaction videos than to just post a bunch of standard shock video reactions that you could find anywhere else.
Plus they all look like they're using their own webcam or something
Making people believe they had seen a sewer slide is just edge lord bs. They had no control over who saw it, how it influenced them or effected them. It might be some low tier art but it's also an incredibly irresponsible thing for a human to do another human.
It shows a lack of empathy on their part. "Im going to do this shocking thing because its art." It doesn't really make anyone think about the subject matter on any deep level either. Live streamed sewer slides have been a part of the internet since webcams. The project says nothing more than "Wouldnt it be terrible if you saw this?" Its no different from those "Its just a prank bro!" style garbage.
As for the 2G1C ripp off I think they wanted real reactions, which you wouldn't get from actors. I bet it would just some supercut of random videos from live leak or something.
The last thing i expected during that ad read was a The Black Dahlia Murder shout-out, but it is surely a welcome surprise. Good to know that at least some of the people I watch have good music taste.
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@@sombertoboggly I accidentally found them because of What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse. I am a big Castlevania fan and boy was I surprised when I found that song thinking I was getting something Castlevania related. But I enjoyed it and to this day still listen to them.
I think i know what the gore in the outdoor winter setting may have been, but then again it's so vague maybe I'm wrong...
@Stang2023that was my thought but considering that the article mentions there were humorous things cut in it’s possible it was a bunch of stuff edited together. It's also possible that there was no one video at all and they showed everyone something different.
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@Stang2023what do you mean hammer
What do you think
@Stang2023 That's a handful of a name
What a fascinating tale, yet again from you. Where do you find such things? Yet again youve cooked so good, i love this channel! Glad ive been here since the beginning!
Is it possible they played that disgusting “two guys one ice pick” or whatever it was called. My friend watched it when it was first uploaded because people didn’t think it was real. I don’t remember when Luka Magnotta was caught, but that’s the only once accessible snuff film I can think of
Whoops. Should have watched the whole video since you mentioned it
@Stang2023It literally was.
@Stang2023what is the definition then?
Bc from what i Can google its “a pornographic film or video recording of an actual murder” some others say “a violent film that shows a real murder”
Wich Im pretty sure that video (if it existed) does show that
@Stang2023 ok. Yes i do see that then it doesnt actually fit the definition. I think since there are many different definition tho it depends on wich one you use. In this case i think the above person looked at it through the more general lense and not the FBI specific one.
The websites i specifically looked at was like Cambridge dictionary and Oxfords. So yes i know google in itself is not a source but yk it was apart of a google search :)
He got caught that very same year (2012) as this whole art project. It seems like it's a strong possibility with that in mind
Do I hear the Petscop soundtrack in the background at some point..? Either way, very nice choice of music!
those 2 budget die antwoord are cringe incarnate
Its too bad you couldnt interview someone who volunteered to watch.
Pretty hard to get in touch with someone. I don't know if there's an NDA about it, where they just can't talk about it legally
@@josepablodeleon6073I doubt there's an NDA it's just a random video from the dark web unless they made it themselves but they're not In jail and seem like nice people so I'll give it The benefit of the doubt
Your conclusion reminds me of the game Disco Elysium, less intense but that idea that unkown breeds desire and curiosity, so to leave the games ending like it did was to make the audience think andnwonder what could happen next
Insane! I love crazy mysteries like this. I can’t believe I’ve never heard of it
It just sounds like they created their own mondo mix-tape.
There's a whole community of people doing this.
I was literally thinking about your videos today, like when's Kylie's next upload coming. Universe answers
Your videos make it seem like you're having a conversation with me in the same room
i love it when kylie boggly uploads!!
I feel like the reaction clips where people watched things but didn't show the clip all started with 2 girls 1 cup lol. 💀
considering there are movies out there like faces of death , earthlings and mondo cane - i don't know why people think it was all fake. from what I gathered in this video it was likely a compilation of really bad gore stuff. the internet is full of those. that's it. i do think the reactions are more interesting without knowing what it is.
Given that it was 2012 and reaction videos were a thing. If the video was real, I doubt they had to look very far to make something disturbing. It was the age of Live Leak compilations, and could easily find terrible stuff on 4 chan. I have my doubts about the reactions being faked, some seemed really invested, and that's hard to fake.
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This is VERY similar to 3 Orangutans 1 Blender, a bunch of reaction videos with music in the background, actual video doesn't exist. Same case here.
3:28 looks like the "U was at the club" guy
Woah we early with this one, crazy!
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Love this and would love to see ur take on more weird art stuff 🤩
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before i saw the video, i thought it was possible there was never a video. but knowing what i know now, i'd bet on the pair showing people SOMETHING, even if it was different videos, even if it was original, real or fake snuff, etc. they are very committed to the art piece and will definitely never tell, and it certainly helps prove their point to speculate. i think trying to line up all the reaction videos to specific moments could help determine if it IS one video or maybe multiple, but the only real way to get concrete evidence of what went down would be to talk to one of the reactors. i wouldn't trust a friend of theirs writing an article as concrete proof of anything unless we have a good reason to believe they wrote a genuine piece and not just something to help bolster the exhibit.
for sure they were shown something, whatever it was. It would be so difficult to react at the exact same time in the exact same way as someone next to you when you're focusing so hard on the screen like that
It's refreshing for someone on the Internet to be able to say, "I don't think what they did was okay" about somebody's actions without condemning them as people. Sure, some people who've done *really* horrible things deserve to be judged harshly. But I've read way too many comments saying a merely rude or flawed person is a "terrible human" and seen way too many videos about "why I'm done with [slightly problematic figure]". Being able to have a moral position on something someone did, without feeling like you need to either write them off or defend them to the death, is a real sign of maturity. I wish more people adopted a perspective like Kylie's here.
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I get what you're saying, but studies show that people who have witnessed suicide are more likely to commit it themselves and it can do permanent damage to an individual's psyche. It's not just being slightly problematic if you potentially contribute to someone self harming because of just trying to get shock value out of them without them knowing it's coming. While some people may be more resilient to it, enough people aren't that it's a very, very bad idea to go around without regard for how you are affecting others with it.
I'd agree with this if it was anyone else but these two JUST happen to be one of the people id consider horrible lol
(assuming it's real)
I don't think it's ethical.
Let's say it's real and that there really is a real video that the duo showed people who were willing to watch. I don't think using someone else's death for entertainment and an "art project" without the express consent of the person who supposedly was murdered is moral.
Either way, it's not like we know whether or not these volunteers to watch Emily's Video are good people or not. That's not something that's really able to be judged based on just a reaction to a video (that may not even exist) from over a decade ago.
The algorythm is pushing Kylie again!
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Never heard of this internet story, interesting. To me shock value is okay when it is in a story and the shocking event moves the story forward. So much media has a hard time doing shock value to make the story move forward or to make a character grow... they just do it to get a strong reaction, one without purpose.
I have studied a ton of artists and performance artists many who do unusual things in pursuit of art while I was in university. I can see what they were thinking when coming up with this idea, perhaps the fact that a lot of these reaction videos were popular around that time and the types of horrific videos that everyone was watching in them/ the edgyness of that era’s media possibly because of this type of shock media being popular and people being desensitized to it, I think that they wanted to comment on that with this project. I think that it was amicable for them to at least have consenting volunteers to go through with this project, it’s much better in my eyes than the one they did on chat roulette. Honestly even though the chat one intrigues me about what the thought was behind it I think that it is one of the most cruel things performance artists have done that I have ever heard about. I do think that it was unethical to source videos for this video from the dark web, I wonder if they paid for existing videos off of it or paid anyone, or even visiting the pages of bad actors on there could have potentially given support to people who make real not safe for life content, it could have been anything from animal abuse and de*th to humans getting gravelly injured or even more serious, there could possibly have been a few that were special effects and totally fabricated but there probably was some reality ones in the video too. I think that it would have been something if they had fully fabricated all of the videos Hollywood horror movie style, maybe it would have been more ethical. 2 g**ls 1c*p was totally fabricated and it was actually relevant around that time too and notorious for being a shock video that a lot of young people would dare their friends to see (without their consent no doubt, I think that was awful), it would have been interesting but pretty expensive and probably near impossible for them to construct multiple videos of staged g*re of different kinds to put into their awful compilation of horrors it probably was financially impossible for them to do that. I think that it’s at least a plus that they warn potential volunteers how awful the video would be and that they were self aware about the whole situation, possibly unlike the chat experiment that they pulled in my honest opinion, you have to lack an amount of self awareness to do something so insensitive (yes even for that time there’s no good excuse).
I’ll admit it does pique my interest. Just based on the reactions alone. Also funny how the peaceful music can sound absolutely horrifying based on context
Hi Kylie! Is there going to be any update on "The Special Christmas Gift" video/music in the future?
another goated video from kylie boggly
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I've somehow never heard of this before. Very interesting!
Another banger kylie video!!
Also may I ask, what song is that playing at the end? I really like it :O
thank you! it's the opening theme from yume 2kki :)
@@sombertoboggly I see, thanks for replying!! :D
FWIW, I clicked on this because I'd somehow never heard of this, despite being very active online since the mid-1990s and in my 40s in 2012.
It would be interesting if any of the people in the reaction videos spoke up about what they saw (unless, of course, they had to sign NDAs)...
i recognized the music in the video they were watching instantly and i checked the music i was thinking of and now i'm very sure it's from popol vuh's soundtrack for werner herzog's movie "aguirre" (ost goes by the same name). it's a movie dealing with heavy topics like colonialism and incest but isn't overtly graphic. which means the people who made the actual shockvideo either ripped the music or it was relicensed for the video like if it's a clip from a longer movie. maybe this helps finding it.
Sounds like they are using the term 'art' as a way of legitimizing what anyone else would call trolling or immoral behavior. I don't think Emily's Video is real, and the Chat Roulette 'piece' is purely taking advantage of people in the worst way possible. Glad they're widely unknown.
good shit kylie
@11:41 Tonedeff was one of the reactors to this video?!! He's my favorite rapper of all time (and unquestionably the most skilled and mathematically the fastest without any mumbling crap). I've been to NYC twice for concerts with him and got to meet and have drinks with him and some of the other performers after the second show. What was exactly on this video would have been a great question to ask him while he was still doing his Tacos & Chocolate Milk podcast with PackFM. I bet he'd be willing to share what was on that video. Clearly he's no stranger to the internet as he's like "oh no, not this" as he'd clearly seen whatever that was before.
Anyway, just thought that was an awesome/hilarious coincidence to see that he was part of this. I know I'll certainly be asking what he remembers from this next time I get to NYC. Finally an internet mystery that I have a real shot at personally solving. Though judging from just that clip of him reacting to it I guarantee it's just a compilation of tons of videos that real internet dwellers have seen passed around for awhile now. So if you showed it to me or him then it's just going to be either laughter or "fuck, not this again" types of reactions to these videos. Nothing groundbreakingly terrible I'm sure.
@9:34 yep they are weird. Girly has FEET as her wallpaper.
Are we in the age of idiocracy?
Yes. Yes we are when people are brainwashed into believing Hamala Harris being a genius and best President for the country
I saw 1 Man 1 Icepick when I was 14 after watching a video about snuff. This was my first time ever looking for something real and graphic. I don't remember much about the video now but it was on my mind for about 2 weeks until I forgot about it.
Judging how these people are really weird I wouldn’t be shocked if it was nothing
“Emily’s Video” is pretty tame compared to other wildness I’ve seen over the years online.
I heard the video that the people were reacting to was real footage of what happened to that guy's leg in SpongeBob
The guy playing the guitar whilst seeing a guy hanging 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also I think the vid never existed
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How do we know for sure, that this video about that video isn't part of the art?
I wish one of the people in the experiment would come forward. Tbh the tape was probably tame as hell compared to the mixtapes out now a days.
The background music and the film its from are genuine works of art unlike whatever rubbish these 2 charlatans make.