I use 33 degrees if the pipe OD's are the same. 2-7/8 saddle onto 2-3/8 use 45 degrees. 2-3/8 saddle onto 2-7/8 use 20 degrees. These are common sizes of oil field tubing.
I’m about to have to do this. With 2-7/8 up rights and a 2-3/8 crossmember. Do you find the center and cut at 20 degrees on both sides or leave a gap like this person did? I think my biggest problem would be making the saddle even.
@@rksando1 I just did this with some 2-3/8 od galvanized schedule 40 and didn’t leave a gap either. Turned out great especially for a guy like me. Self taught with a Lincoln 140 flux core welder.
@@Big0veralls Fumes when welding zinc coated steel are dangerous. I prefer dissolve it with muriatic acid. I stick welded on some galvanized 2-3/8 pipe a few months ago. I ground off what I could then welded outside on a windy day and made sure I stayed up wind. I just needed to weld some short beads so I was ok.
I have been messing about for hours today using a "wrap around". Hole saws have never been kind to me so seeing this video both helps me and annoys me. WHY DIDNT I KNOW THIS SOONER?! I can only thank you for sharing this! Are there ant tips and tricks for notching tube other then 90 degrees? I.e for a staircase?! Thank you!
i was doing this 30 yrs ago except I i go 45 and chop 5 mm of the point. i just do it by eye these days if i dont have access to a coping machine, hole saw or iron worker notch attachment
I tried this today on 42mm diameter tube. It looked great. I then tried the same with 115mm diameter tube and it didn't work out. Is there a formula to work off as the tube gets bigger
Is 12mm the size of the gap when you butt the pipes together before you notch them?Where do you get the 32 degree angles from or is that the number that works well for all size pipe?
lo, like this is new. i learned this from an old timer 40 years ago, but i used an abrasive cut off saw. i also built many aircraft fuselages thin wall moly used a tin snip.
no feelings hurt here Tommy boy. 😘 you keep pumping that algorithm for me with your pointless comments. And I’ll keep benefitting from that financially. Merry Christmas
I guess the point is that any fitter worth their salt wouldn't be watching videos on how to do this.... For those of us worth less salt this was really useful and educational. Now having seen this perhaps I'm worth a little more salt.......
@@johnjmcshea probably not! Most of these welding videos are more of a comedy channel. FYI nothing wrong with a tape and good working knowledge of a wrap around.
@sputnik9708 I got it to work, I set my saw to 32° like he said and the cut was wrong, I figured out that he meant 58°. A square cut on a saw is 90° not 0°. I set a stop for repeatability and got the job done.
Thanks for watching. 👍 I was recently made aware of this method, and have been welding/fabricating for 25+. I’m sure others are aware. But I’d guess a lot more aren’t, than are .
I use 33 degrees if the pipe OD's are the same.
2-7/8 saddle onto 2-3/8 use 45 degrees.
2-3/8 saddle onto 2-7/8 use 20 degrees.
These are common sizes of oil field tubing.
Thanks for your comments 👍
I’m about to have to do this. With 2-7/8 up rights and a 2-3/8 crossmember. Do you find the center and cut at 20 degrees on both sides or leave a gap like this person did? I think my biggest problem would be making the saddle even.
@@Big0veralls I don't leave a gap
@@rksando1 I just did this with some 2-3/8 od galvanized schedule 40 and didn’t leave a gap either. Turned out great especially for a guy like me. Self taught with a Lincoln 140 flux core welder.
@@Big0veralls Fumes when welding zinc coated steel are dangerous. I prefer dissolve it with muriatic acid. I stick welded on some galvanized 2-3/8 pipe a few months ago. I ground off what I could then welded outside on a windy day and made sure I stayed up wind. I just needed to weld some short beads so I was ok.
Been working on my pipe welding/ fit ups. This helps a ton for saddles. Thanks
I have been messing about for hours today using a "wrap around". Hole saws have never been kind to me so seeing this video both helps me and annoys me. WHY DIDNT I KNOW THIS SOONER?! I can only thank you for sharing this! Are there ant tips and tricks for notching tube other then 90 degrees? I.e for a staircase?! Thank you!
THANK YOU! I watched a whole lotta stuff...but this video takes the cake!
Thank you.
32 degrees is the magic number? You’re not supposed to share top secret on YT.
Thats what a crab would say
i was doing this 30 yrs ago except I i go 45 and chop 5 mm of the point. i just do it by eye these days if i dont have access to a coping machine, hole saw or iron worker notch attachment
I tried this today on 42mm diameter tube. It looked great. I then tried the same with 115mm diameter tube and it didn't work out. Is there a formula to work off as the tube gets bigger
Roughly 1/3 the diameter of pipe is how far to cut
@@rockrover85 so for the 115mm diameter pipe I would do everything the same but push the tube 38mm ish past the saw blade?
@samuelbaldwin1225 did it work out that way?
@@toddformanek8495 I'm yet to try it!
you just got added to my Christmas list.
Is 12mm the size of the gap when you butt the pipes together before you notch them?Where do you get the 32 degree angles from or is that the number that works well for all size pipe?
12mm is the position of the tube past the blade at 90° Before you cut the 32° mitred cuts.
32° works for all.
I’ve got a belt grinder dedicated and setup to prepare 42 and 33 mm pipes to butt them together. That is such a time saver
Thank you so much for the clarification!
Dang. I wish I’d seen this two projects ago!
I like it! Thanks👍👍
lo, like this is new. i learned this from an old timer 40 years ago, but i used an abrasive cut off saw. i also built many aircraft fuselages thin wall moly used a tin snip.
As new as the day you first saw it Todd😉
Nice share😊
Thank you! Cheers!
It be nice to have captions so I can read what you’re saying yes I’m hard of hearing!
Hi Travis. Hope you’re well. There are no spoken words in any of the videos. Any questions you have then please ask.
Awesome thanks for sharing
Thank you.
Were you gonna show us the part where you knocked the points off so it fit up better, cause that seems like an important step?
I don’t think you quite got the video Dan. Take another look. 👍
Any tips for 45° joint?
The fabrication series channel. Justin does an entire video on this exact subject.
You fookin genius 🏆💲
Thank you.
@@TheMetalFabGuy That helped me a lot today. You get a solid like , and a sub from me. Thanks again.
Nice job that, can be done with a chop saw too.
A bandsaw is a chop saw
@@scatdawg1 Explain your comment because it makes no factual sense.
A chopsaw is a crude bandsaw for the purpose of the task at hand
I would have thought any fitter worth his weight in salt would know this hack! I’ve been doing this on a shop saw for over 45 years!
That’s great Tom. Look forward to your videos.
@@TheMetalFabGuy sorry I hurt your feelings! Bottom line is I don’t need to make videos to making a living, but if I did it would’t be on silly hacks!
no feelings hurt here Tommy boy.
😘 you keep pumping that algorithm for me with your pointless comments. And I’ll keep benefitting from that financially. Merry Christmas
I guess the point is that any fitter worth their salt wouldn't be watching videos on how to do this.... For those of us worth less salt this was really useful and educational. Now having seen this perhaps I'm worth a little more salt.......
@@johnjmcshea probably not! Most of these welding videos are more of a comedy channel. FYI nothing wrong with a tape and good working knowledge of a wrap around.
U first make a cut for 12 before the 32? ..
12mm gives you the start position of the angle cuts
Can it be that iam not have to option do it on my band saw?can only control blade degree..not the clamp degree
Measure 12mm from the blade when it set at 90°. Clamp it in the vice
Then change your angle
Very Nice
*You're a wizard Harry*
🪄 expecto patronum 🧙♂️ 👨🏭
For that sized tubing nothing beati a Harbor Freight tubing notcher !!
Didn't work on my cold saw.
Been doing this for years on my evolution saw. Good trick is to use a 123 block on the 2nd cut to make sure it is square to the first cut.
@sputnik9708 I got it to work, I set my saw to 32° like he said and the cut was wrong, I figured out that he meant 58°. A square cut on a saw is 90° not 0°. I set a stop for repeatability and got the job done.
Watch it again.
No one said set your saw to 32°.👍
@TheMetalFabGuy when you wrote 32° on the metal you must've been talking about the temperature my apologies.
Nice
The best tricks aren't on youtube
Quite possibly.
Thanks for sharing your opinion on this.
Why is this a secret? I’m sure others have known about this for years.
Thanks for watching. 👍
I was recently made aware of this method, and have been welding/fabricating for 25+.
I’m sure others are aware.
But I’d guess a lot more aren’t, than are .
it's just a title, chill out
@@TheMetalFabGuy Your information is sure to echo, alot. Good post.
12 millimeters is 32 degrees, show!!
@fernandocruz1625 ?
a manual pipe notcher also works less $$$ & quicker
Thanks V strom for the clarification 👌
@@TheMetalFabGuy there is always more than one way to skin a cat --use what you have I guess
Totally agree.
That's not a 32 degree cut, the saw makes a straight cut at 90 thats a 58 degree cut.
I thought i was gonna learn something in this video
STOP STOP TERRIBLE VIDEO NOT INFORMATIVE AT ALL
Thanks Howard. Hope you’ve recovered.