Dime split his signal to make the live sound way bigger, and the effect of having 2 guitarists. Watching all of the old bootlegs from the 90s just shows how great his tone was!
@@EricMorettin I'm taking a look at the old 80's MXR M-175. It's a rack delay and modulation. Hoping to replicate the Flanger/Doubler unit without spending $1700 What are your thoughts on that unit?
@@BanjoBoy-y4j I've never used one before so I can't comment. I'm working on another video that highlights modern flangers that either nail or come close to the 126 tho.
@@EricMorettin- I came here for this specifically. When you say he split his signal - do you mean into different amp rigs, or stereo after the amps to PA - or just doubled using the chorus / doubler…? Follow up: is that what the chorus doubler does, literally just doubles the signal? Thanks and sorry for the caveman questions. 👍🏼 Killer rig and video!
@@spencerarnold3810 he would use the flanger doubler as a splitter because it has stereo ins and outs! Darrell and Grady setup a wet/dry rig from what I recall. So some effects would go into one set of amplifiers and another set of amplifiers would be ran completely dry outside of the EQs.
Saw pantera 3 times in australia,dime's live sound was huge,fat,sharp and so sweet sounding.just killer.almost like 2 dimes were playing.!!amazing talent.
Grady is the man brother....and as much as we all mis dime and wish he was still here, we have alot of ppl like ola and yourself keeping his spirit alive
@@EricMorettin I like the hyper-specificity of pre-EQ like this. You're essentially getting similar functionality out of that EQ as you would get from the tonestack on a Mesa Mark series amp. People always find those so hard to dial in, but if you understand that the B/M/T knobs are just pre-EQ and the Graphic is where you sculpt the balance of the tone afterward, you're golden. Being able to apply distortion to a frequency range is so powerful. OD pedals are cool, but man, Pre-EQ is so affordable and much more powerful in my opinion. I love it.
I think that if Ola and Eric joined forces we would get the best recreation of Dimebag’s tone and playing style. It would be interesting to see how to recreate this rig with current affordable equipment.
I'm sure you can get it with a traditional flanger that's easily accessible/affordable. I heard the Universal Audio Astra gets real close to the doubler/flanger though.
That chain effect is from a Lexicon rack unit. ( I believe that's the brand name.) . Its a rack unit with effects. It is also where used it for treadmills ( lol trendmills) Sorry, trendkill album. Tremelo effect on underground. They are super hard to find.
This is very intuitive and the fact that you got gradient involved is pretty awesome. One of the things that guitar world also fucked up. Was dying bag actually never used any of the warhead amps he never liked them
Man, it's like traveling back in time. Great video. I've always wondered what those Randell heads would sound like going straight in. I believe you've answered that. Cheers
@@EricMorettin yeah very. This is coming from someone who bought a Korg G3 in Jr high thinking it would get that sound. LOL BTW I had a juice goose power supply. From what I remember they were less expensive than the Furman's. In other words, it was the one I could afford as a kid. :) ....but that says a lot about their quality if Dime used them. Pretty cool.
Seen dime performance here in Australia with pantera in 94 , to this day ive never heard a better live guitar sound, nor guitarist., long live the king absolute tragedy 😢😢
That would have been an amazing show to see!! From all the live Pantera videos I've watched over the years, I can only imagine how insane his tone sounded live given how great it is on tape.
@@EricMorettin the live stuff you have heard still doesn't do it justice tho, also Rex bass sound was absolutely incredible, that's the key, it's how Rex and dime combine their sound, live dimes sound isn't over bassy , the bass sound is dominated by Rex's bass dime does the highs and chugs
Awesome! Thank you for the confirmation on the silencer. I've heard so many conflicting ideas that he never used it in the loop, but, only the front, or vice versa. So, I always just had mine in the front. The reason why I never used it in the loop is bcuz of advice that it killed dynamics, but, that extra noise has gotta go. Thanks again Eric! Your videos are always pleasurable! Btw, kick freakin' ass on those Biohazard inlays!!
@@preston2636 really? Idk Preston maybe a silencer could refer to a noise gate as well. But, thank you for intruding in a conversation you don't belong in.
Man this is the coolest video I have seen in a very long time, thank you so much for putting this together and sharing! With all of the technology and advancements of today I wonder what Dime would have moved on to gear-wise if anything. Fun to think about. Maybe Diezel? Or stay solid state and go Axe FX? Endorsements always sway and incentivize also lol. Long live Dime!! 🤘🏻
Lol I bought the Amplitube Dimebag collection for like £30 and it sounds spot on, all fully tweakable too as if you had the full set up in front of you. Really don't need to splash out in this day and age unless you are gonna be doing lead for a Pantera cover band and you need to sound just like dime.
Yeah with the prices of the gear that I highlighted in the video, it's hard to justify spending it all when you can buy a plug-in that is certified by dimebag's former guitar tech. You can also get some pretty stellar tones from other high end modelers that come real close.
Flanger is key indeed! Thanks! Judging from the current listings at the end of the video this rig is more expensive than most modern boutique tube heads. All Randall's have gone up, for the most part, since the brand is defunct.
Nicccccccce. I've heard somewhere that he joined his Whammy and Crybaby together with a bit of dowel and glue and the tape on the neck pickups was so the thinner strings didnt get caught from divebombing 🤓
I think it might be good to profile these things on some software so that each part including the entire chain can be digitally archived. Lots of music history that could just disappear once it all breaks. As you also have all his original gear you could also settle the debate of what sounds best. Bill Lawrence USA Ceramic pickups vs Bill N Becky Wylde L500XL vs Seymour Duncan Dimebucker. Add in an EMG81 and Dimarzio X2N and you have a massive collection of rail pickups that are super high output.
I finally found an Aural exciter I'm going to buy it tomorrow but I just don't get what does it do. i couldn't hear any difference on your recording it's probably something that can be feeled live. I hope could share the aphex settings
@@ShannonLucasDrums really means a lot that you dig what I'm sharing here. Great guitars eh?! Would love another, or any USA Dime guitar, for the collection.
When I hear Dimebag does the solo live for Strength Beyond Strength and 91 Moscow Domination solo its always harmonised how does he Harmonize the solos when it’s live?Apparently he uses his Whammy Pedal or His MXR Flanger.
@@eeyorebenji2836 gain 6, (100hz 1/4, +1.5db, shelf) (850hz, 3oct, +3db) (1.5k, loct, + 2db) (6k,1/3oct, +3db, peak) They changed depending on what needed per song, per venue, but that is a basic setting.
No offense to your playing, but you can hear how much tone came from his hands. Such a wild concept to consider when you replace a person in an exact replica setup.
ive never heard of the grey wire bill lawrence vs black im guessin? any info on these? i have a 20 year old or so one with a grey wire. one of the metal mounting pieces is broke but im sure i could rig something up. may wait till i get an ml shape guitar before installing it.
Everyone wants Dimes tone, but it doesn't matter if you can't play like dime. No matter what he plays through it sounds like dime. Even when he plays through the tiny marshall amp still sounds huge.
The truth is Dime ALWAYS had a tube amp blended in with his Randall’s in the studio . Wizard tube amps are key to cowboys, vulgar , and trendkill stufio tones . Terry date and vinnie have told this over and over . You can’t get those tones with just solid state
@@EricMorettin very cool im after those aswell all these years :D im not super interested in the settings to use them myself but im after the mystery yknow seeing those pictures is like hunting for atlantis for me xD
@@EricMorettin apologize For my English. I meant, flanger has “input output” in the front, and input output in the back. I saw everybody use “in out” in the front. I would like know the difference if you use in out front or back
@@ale211850 Just like anything else that's in the loop vs in front of the amp, you going to notice a more noticable difference in response and tone. Modulation and EQ sound really good in the loop
He's used this rig live for clean and dirty. Studio would be a mix of a Roland JC120 or Mesa Mark 1. Randall Warheads were also used for cleans in the Reinventing The Steel era.
DO NOT ORDER FLANGER/DOUBLER FROM DBEffects! They screwed up the wiring of THE AC POWER cord going into my pedal so it died as soon as I plugged it in, and never took ownership of the fact. It's a shame because the working ones sound awsome. But awful customer service, considering fucking up the colours for live and neutral is a massive deal. I was going to send it back and not make waves, but the last attitude laden email, , and the vibe I get that they're money grabbing crooks, who probably wouldn't refund me even if I sent it back, means it's war! Most arrogant people who won't own up to their mistake even when I have a multimeter on it with photos! So, there's a video coming soon, with screen shots of emails, to show you how bad it could be. You make up your own mind, but til then, just stop! Buy a Mimiq instead!
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I honestly feel the tone he caught for the great southern trendkill was his purest. The most straightforward tightest dryest tone. Absolutely perfect.
I love that tone so much. Even his live tone in that era ripped so hard
agreed
I've watched all of the Dimebag chasing tone videos, this one has become my favorite.
Thank you 🤘
There's something magical about the Doubler on the MXR. It just captures the essence of Dime's live sound and it is fucking tight as hell!!!!
Dime split his signal to make the live sound way bigger, and the effect of having 2 guitarists. Watching all of the old bootlegs from the 90s just shows how great his tone was!
@@EricMorettin I'm taking a look at the old 80's MXR M-175. It's a rack delay and modulation. Hoping to replicate the Flanger/Doubler unit without spending $1700 What are your thoughts on that unit?
@@BanjoBoy-y4j I've never used one before so I can't comment. I'm working on another video that highlights modern flangers that either nail or come close to the 126 tho.
@@EricMorettin- I came here for this specifically.
When you say he split his signal - do you mean into different amp rigs, or stereo after the amps to PA - or just doubled using the chorus / doubler…?
Follow up: is that what the chorus doubler does, literally just doubles the signal?
Thanks and sorry for the caveman questions. 👍🏼
Killer rig and video!
@@spencerarnold3810 he would use the flanger doubler as a splitter because it has stereo ins and outs! Darrell and Grady setup a wet/dry rig from what I recall. So some effects would go into one set of amplifiers and another set of amplifiers would be ran completely dry outside of the EQs.
Saw pantera 3 times in australia,dime's live sound was huge,fat,sharp and so sweet sounding.just killer.almost like 2 dimes were playing.!!amazing talent.
I would love to have heard his tone in person! Awesome story!
Gstk Sydney 97
"Almost like 2 dimes were playing" ...
Thanks to the doubler! 😉
Grady is the man brother....and as much as we all mis dime and wish he was still here, we have alot of ppl like ola and yourself keeping his spirit alive
Thanks so much, I really appreciate that! Grady is the man and we all owe a lot to him🤘
Yeah, They were dream team. Dime with the fingers and Grady tweeking tone in real time while playing.
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Thanks for the video dude. That amp with the MXR pre-EQ is perfect.
It's crazy how much the EQ changes the amp on its own!
@@EricMorettin I like the hyper-specificity of pre-EQ like this. You're essentially getting similar functionality out of that EQ as you would get from the tonestack on a Mesa Mark series amp. People always find those so hard to dial in, but if you understand that the B/M/T knobs are just pre-EQ and the Graphic is where you sculpt the balance of the tone afterward, you're golden. Being able to apply distortion to a frequency range is so powerful. OD pedals are cool, but man, Pre-EQ is so affordable and much more powerful in my opinion. I love it.
I think that if Ola and Eric joined forces we would get the best recreation of Dimebag’s tone and playing style.
It would be interesting to see how to recreate this rig with current affordable equipment.
Thank you so much man! 🤘 Maybe one day I'll make a video on that if I can find the gear.
@@EricMorettin Don't Worry, is just me being noisy and obssessive about gear.
@@Malum09 Forget ola. Domicidal covers has it down pretty good. Look him up 🤙🏽
Olas covers of Pantera are not that good. Sorry.
@@c.f.pedraza4057 each to their own. I like what Ola does and would love the opportunity to Collab with him on some Some related videos.
Awesome! I have everything except the PQ-4, I keep missing out on that one. Pq-4 gain should come down a bit to about 6-7.
Honestly made my night.
Awesome stuff. Always wondered about that flanger sound on Hellbound.
I'm sure you can get it with a traditional flanger that's easily accessible/affordable. I heard the Universal Audio Astra gets real close to the doubler/flanger though.
That chain effect is from a Lexicon rack unit. ( I believe that's the brand name.) . Its a rack unit with effects. It is also where used it for treadmills ( lol trendmills) Sorry, trendkill album. Tremelo effect on underground. They are super hard to find.
Epic!❤
@@SixStringControl 🤘🤘 thanks!
Man, what a dream, awesome video
Man this was great!!! Thanks brother!
Thank you 🤘
This is very intuitive and the fact that you got gradient involved is pretty awesome. One of the things that guitar world also fucked up. Was dying bag actually never used any of the warhead amps he never liked them
He used the warheads for clean tones live and possibly in the studio
Man, it's like traveling back in time. Great video. I've always wondered what those Randell heads would sound like going straight in. I believe you've answered that. Cheers
Thanks for checking it out! Surprising knowing what the Randall sounds like on its own eh?
@@EricMorettin yeah very. This is coming from someone who bought a Korg G3 in Jr high thinking it would get that sound. LOL BTW I had a juice goose power supply. From what I remember they were less expensive than the Furman's. In other words, it was the one I could afford as a kid. :) ....but that says a lot about their quality if Dime used them. Pretty cool.
Seen dime performance here in Australia with pantera in 94 , to this day ive never heard a better live guitar sound, nor guitarist., long live the king absolute tragedy 😢😢
That would have been an amazing show to see!! From all the live Pantera videos I've watched over the years, I can only imagine how insane his tone sounded live given how great it is on tape.
@@EricMorettin the live stuff you have heard still doesn't do it justice tho, also Rex bass sound was absolutely incredible, that's the key, it's how Rex and dime combine their sound, live dimes sound isn't over bassy , the bass sound is dominated by Rex's bass dime does the highs and chugs
Awesome! Thank you for the confirmation on the silencer. I've heard so many conflicting ideas that he never used it in the loop, but, only the front, or vice versa. So, I always just had mine in the front. The reason why I never used it in the loop is bcuz of advice that it killed dynamics, but, that extra noise has gotta go. Thanks again Eric! Your videos are always pleasurable! Btw, kick freakin' ass on those Biohazard inlays!!
Thank you! You definitely need a gate in the loop for how much gain is running in this rig.
Silencer? Wtf is that
@@preston2636 really? Idk Preston maybe a silencer could refer to a noise gate as well. But, thank you for intruding in a conversation you don't belong in.
@@preston2636 noise gate
@@EricMorettin he knew that. He was just being a Square. Lol ..
Man this is the coolest video I have seen in a very long time, thank you so much for putting this together and sharing! With all of the technology and advancements of today I wonder what Dime would have moved on to gear-wise if anything. Fun to think about. Maybe Diezel? Or stay solid state and go Axe FX? Endorsements always sway and incentivize also lol. Long live Dime!! 🤘🏻
Love this walkthrough - thanks eric - delivering fire as always
Amazing work brother !
this is a rig you got to hear on stage to get right fr
Love this video
Thank you brother 🤘
if anyone ever came close to dimebags actual tone it would be this guy right here @Eric Morettin
Lol I bought the Amplitube Dimebag collection for like £30 and it sounds spot on, all fully tweakable too as if you had the full set up in front of you. Really don't need to splash out in this day and age unless you are gonna be doing lead for a Pantera cover band and you need to sound just like dime.
Yeah with the prices of the gear that I highlighted in the video, it's hard to justify spending it all when you can buy a plug-in that is certified by dimebag's former guitar tech. You can also get some pretty stellar tones from other high end modelers that come real close.
Great video!!!
Thanks!
That flanger is the key! Sounds so good bro! What’s the estimated $ on that set up? It’s kind of killed my dreams of just having a Randal amp
Flanger is key indeed! Thanks! Judging from the current listings at the end of the video this rig is more expensive than most modern boutique tube heads. All Randall's have gone up, for the most part, since the brand is defunct.
Nicccccccce. I've heard somewhere that he joined his Whammy and Crybaby together with a bit of dowel and glue and the tape on the neck pickups was so the thinner strings didnt get caught from divebombing 🤓
I wonder if someone mapped the EQ curve of the furmans + MXR combo. Sounds kinda like a Fortin Grind / TC Boost situation
I think it might be good to profile these things on some software so that each part including the entire chain can be digitally archived. Lots of music history that could just disappear once it all breaks.
As you also have all his original gear you could also settle the debate of what sounds best. Bill Lawrence USA Ceramic pickups vs Bill N Becky Wylde L500XL vs Seymour Duncan Dimebucker. Add in an EMG81 and Dimarzio X2N and you have a massive collection of rail pickups that are super high output.
There's lots of new things coming down the pipeline that you'll like regarding your comment on profiling gear.
Wow - Cool video.
I finally found an Aural exciter I'm going to buy it tomorrow but I just don't get what does it do. i couldn't hear any difference on your recording it's probably something that can be feeled live. I hope could share the aphex settings
Get'cha pull!!!!!
🤘
Love this.
Thank you! Really appreciate hearing that from you. Been a fan of your drumming for a long time! Hope you're well!
@@EricMorettin Thanks so much. As a fellow Pantera/Dime fanatic, I really appreciate these vids. I too own one of the 2005 US Dean from Hells. 🤘🏻
@@ShannonLucasDrums really means a lot that you dig what I'm sharing here. Great guitars eh?! Would love another, or any USA Dime guitar, for the collection.
Hey what is the riff you played at 14:48 I heard it on another pantera video or something similar is it something you made or pantera related ?
You need a pedal to select just One channel on the amp. I have the same amp from back in the day, and ya, you need a pedal to switch modes.
@@mrnobodyinvr9762 that you do!
Wow. This is without the 104 on? Nice!!!
Can you please do a Far Beyond Driven Rig
The main differences are the amps and furman EQ, otherwise the rest is essentially the same!
Great vid!!!!
Thanks!
When I hear Dimebag does the solo live for Strength Beyond Strength and 91 Moscow Domination solo its always harmonised how does he Harmonize the solos when it’s live?Apparently he uses his Whammy Pedal or His MXR Flanger.
I think the harmony came from the whammy pedal.
Excellent 👌Accurate 🤘
Where is the rocktron in the signal chain?
Amazing how quiet his rig was side of stage. Brutal out front, but back stage and side on.. quiet as.
Were you lucky enough to hear it side stage?! Were you able to hold a conversation over it?
@@EricMorettin yeah, my band supported them on two separate tours down here in Oz. The whole band is quiet, side on. Crazy
@@jasonstone1046 that's wild. What a privilege that must have been to be with them as a supporting band.
You can here the PQ4 pushing too hard up front, never put it on level 10, I have dimes settings from Grady if you want them.
You got the settings handy? Got a PEQ wanna test out a few different settings
@@eeyorebenji2836 gain
6, (100hz 1/4, +1.5db, shelf) (850hz, 3oct, +3db) (1.5k, loct, + 2db)
(6k,1/3oct, +3db, peak) They changed depending on what needed per song, per venue, but that is a basic setting.
Damn I want the settings !! I have a pq3
Let us see em 🤘
@@ericspann7127 check the comment above
Nice work on the rig!
Thank you! My buddy has a wild collection and I'm thankful he was up for the idea.
No offense to your playing, but you can hear how much tone came from his hands. Such a wild concept to consider when you replace a person in an exact replica setup.
Idk man, this sounds exactly like Dime's tone
How would the tone come from his hands exactly
man ur lucky i wish i had the pedal:(
Does anyone know where to get the guitar silencer the one he has not the super C
Used market
Thank you! Can you please tell me how he got some of those harmonized sounds like on that solo from Strength Beyond Strength?
He probably double tracked that in the studio. I'm assuming he had a harmonizer rack effect or used a harmonizer setting on the whammy live
Hi Eric, on the paper drawing there is also a reverb in the loop. Do you know what dime was using?
Hey I believe it was the ART Effects unit!
can I have a copy from the Grady Drawing for you@@EricMorettin?
Tune guitar
How about a budget version of this? Lol. Trying to replicate this with original stuff would be outrageous
Sounds like a great idea 🤘 definitely something to look into
@EricMorettin definitely. Great video, by the way. I could watch dime rig videos all day.
@@anthonybeilman7092 thank you! Same here. Hard to get the flanger on a budget as well as other pieces
ive never heard of the grey wire bill lawrence vs black im guessin? any info on these? i have a 20 year old or so one with a grey wire. one of the metal mounting pieces is broke but im sure i could rig something up. may wait till i get an ml shape guitar before installing it.
Grey wire was made in the 80s, and I'm not sure about the black wire pickups.
@@EricMorettin mine has grey wire but i got in around 2000. was used so maybe it is from 80's.
@@they_arent_human That's probably correct
I didn't see a whah-petal in the chain though? Great job otherwise! 🤘
I was mainly highlighting the gear that was off stage or not easily accessible but thank you!
Everyone wants Dimes tone, but it doesn't matter if you can't play like dime. No matter what he plays through it sounds like dime. Even when he plays through the tiny marshall amp still sounds huge.
Where was the aural exiter in the signal chain?
Loop
The truth is Dime ALWAYS had a tube amp blended in with his Randall’s in the studio . Wizard tube amps are key to cowboys, vulgar , and trendkill stufio tones . Terry date and vinnie have told this over and over . You can’t get those tones with just solid state
Interesting, never heard of this before. Can you give me a Source with more information
Amm no closed
So close. Just missing one VERY important thing..
DIME🇺🇸🤘🇺🇸
where did you get the mxr6 band settings from?
Found pictures of dime's rig through the years
@@EricMorettin very cool im after those aswell all these years :D im not super interested in the settings to use them myself but im after the mystery yknow seeing those pictures is like hunting for atlantis for me xD
is there any alternative to the mxr flanger?
There is! I cover one of them in my Dimebag Pedal board video. I'll be covering other ones in a dedicated video
@@EricMorettin thank you man, getcha’ pull.
@@joshua6string 🤘
The Aphex 104 is it plung front or send return? Thanks
You'll see in the rig diagram from Grady in the video, but it was in the loop on my vid
@@EricMorettin do tou know which is it the difference on Mxr if you plug it front or in the back?
@@ale211850 Flanger or the EQ?
@@EricMorettin apologize For my English. I meant, flanger has “input output” in the front, and input output in the back.
I saw everybody use “in out” in the front.
I would like know the difference if you use in out front or back
@@ale211850 Just like anything else that's in the loop vs in front of the amp, you going to notice a more noticable difference in response and tone. Modulation and EQ sound really good in the loop
Is the Aphex out front or in the loop?
Front
Does this cover his clean tones from 92-01?
Talking live tone
He's used this rig live for clean and dirty. Studio would be a mix of a Roland JC120 or Mesa Mark 1. Randall Warheads were also used for cleans in the Reinventing The Steel era.
Great Job!!! DON'T EVER sell that rig...........
DO NOT ORDER FLANGER/DOUBLER FROM DBEffects! They screwed up the wiring of THE AC POWER cord going into my pedal so it died as soon as I plugged it in, and never took ownership of the fact. It's a shame because the working ones sound awsome. But awful customer service, considering fucking up the colours for live and neutral is a massive deal. I was going to send it back and not make waves, but the last attitude laden email, , and the vibe I get that they're money grabbing crooks, who probably wouldn't refund me even if I sent it back, means it's war! Most arrogant people who won't own up to their mistake even when I have a multimeter on it with photos! So, there's a video coming soon, with screen shots of emails, to show you how bad it could be. You make up your own mind, but til then, just stop! Buy a Mimiq instead!
Ola could learn a thing or two from you haha
Haha thanks! Would love to work with him one day
Ahhh I miss the days when people searched for their own sound instead of forking out thousands to try to sound like someone else.
To each their own. IMO, there's a reason why EMGs into a boosted 5150 with v30s has been the foundation of metal tone for so long.
It’s amazing how much gear he needed to have such bad guitar tone
You meant badass