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Mannlicher Schoenauer / Mosin Nagant / Beaumont Vitali

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  • @charleshatcher7560
    @charleshatcher7560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can’t begin to tell you how excited I was to see the Dutch Beaumont on the table. Found one the other day at a local gun shop. Didn’t buy it right away but knew I had seen it before. Went home and looked it up on TH-cam and sure enough there was a video on it. Two days later I bought it for a song! What a beautiful rifle! All matching numbers and the bolt completely intact. What a find!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Charles - you hit it out of the ball park with that buy. Fantastic rifles - with that most unique action spring in the bolt handle. People call me for these - but I don't know where to direct them. Well done again! Mike

  • @balham456
    @balham456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “I was in the vault looking for the Mosin...”
    In my mind’s eye I see rows upon rows of perfectly maintained rifles, an Aladdin’s cave.

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A few days ago I was in my new favorite gun shop where I looked at a stunning Mannlicher Schöenauer rifle in 9.3. In a case with documentation, a true African safari rifle once owned by a British colonel. I think it would take quite a bit to get it. But that reminded me of a Breda 1927 rifle I have, the military version of the Schöenauer. Mine was modified as to caliber, a gunsmith tried to get a chamber cast but said that the chamber was badly chewed up, a real shame as the bore is not bad at all. But these put me in mind of the Krag rifles, another very smooth action with similarities to the ones on your table. All testaments to the inventiveness of the mind.

  • @MS4RS
    @MS4RS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You handle your rifles with so much love and care. Great video, thank you very much.

  • @deltakilo317
    @deltakilo317 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Awesome video, was not expecting the Team Fortress 2 reference...lol

  • @oncall21
    @oncall21 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's like an evolution or progression of one action as you state. I love your watching your videos. You have a great economy of words. Thanks for sharing!

  • @VentrlsZT98
    @VentrlsZT98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the bolt handle on the Mannlicher, very very eye catching

    • @dennistaylor3762
      @dennistaylor3762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Without the ball you can get more of them in the rack.

  • @lauraferro1678
    @lauraferro1678 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you!!!!! Awesome video...I was not aware of the similarities of the mosin and the MS. Great video!!! Hope you enjoy the MS as much as I do mine.

  • @ronlafitte6864
    @ronlafitte6864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have owned and shot many Mosin Nagant rifles. When you shot at something you really meant business! What a round! I found that the M39 was more accurate than the others. Maybe just my imagination but I shot much better groups with it. Thank you for a wonderful video, Mike!

  • @brianlee6849
    @brianlee6849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I understand why people like the Mannlicher it looks like an amazing beautiful rifle. Also 264 Magnum is great cartridge. Thank you for sharing beautiful rifle.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Brian - near the top for sure; and for many people - at the top.

  • @mdirtydogg
    @mdirtydogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting to know that a Swiss watch grade Schoenauer and an agricultural grade,as some people would call it, Mosin-Nagant share similar design cues. Thank you.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂....agricultural grade. I hope the Red Army isn't listening.

  • @RickNethery
    @RickNethery 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    USOG I really like the Beaumont, It looks like functional art. I have been subscribed to Your channel for a long time Sir.

  • @dxpvxo711
    @dxpvxo711 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Reminded me of your falling block/ browning video. That is a really clean steyr and a great odd caliber. Your right thouse are like hens teeth to find. Ive never seen one that clean before

  • @GunPassion95
    @GunPassion95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video and reviews! You deserved another suscriber from italy! Greetings! :-)

  • @lalchawimawiaparte191
    @lalchawimawiaparte191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your review on firearms and I subscribed your channel.

  • @jackstraughan2652
    @jackstraughan2652 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is one big ass bolt handle 😂 very interesting video as always Mike

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Corbett used his .275 Rigby rifle, Bell had his light model Fraser built MS rifle in 6.5mm .

  • @peterdadson7713
    @peterdadson7713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video, thanks so much.

  • @themetalman4443
    @themetalman4443 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That is the first time I have ever heard someone describe the Mosin Nagant action as smooth.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hahaha! Okay - I may have lost my senses but it is a wonderful reality - to find good in everything. : )

    • @themetalman4443
      @themetalman4443 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree and I love the calmness of your videos particularity compared to most "run and gun", action type gun videos. However, I would find the positive features of the Mosin being its pure ruggedness and simplicity. Also, as antiquated as the 54r seems, a century of widespread military use cant lie.

    • @VentrlsZT98
      @VentrlsZT98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly my Mosin is quite smooth, its really hit and miss with Mosins. Some are so shoddy, but mine was also refurbished in the Ukraine

  • @rogerd.miller1095
    @rogerd.miller1095 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for showing the Mosin Nagant. I have resisted buying one because it has earned the reputation as a cheap to buy and shoot survivalist gun, and the fact that the best of them are gone. I am rethinking my position. It is a gun with a great history. Also, I buy guns to shoot, and not put in a case and admire. A gun that is not shot loses it's raison d'être.

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Roger D. Miller buy the Mosin. Clean any cosmoline super carefully and grease and oil the parts that need it. Feel free to use crap surplus ammo but don’t complain if you do. It can be sticky and sometimes finicky. But if you use more expensive ammo and re-zero your gun for no bayonet, (some are set at the factory for bayonet fired accuracy, perhaps most in fact). It’s a fine rifle easily worth $400-500 but it can be yours for $100-250. It’s a bargain but it does have a spongy bolt, and often ugly wood but they do shoot and are very powerful as well.

    • @rogerd.miller1095
      @rogerd.miller1095 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info.

  • @joshhorn5131
    @joshhorn5131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Another great video!

  • @fiskeman92
    @fiskeman92 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video once again ! Maybe you can make a comparision between the mannlicher m1903 or 1950 and the mannlicher m72. Which was the follow up model of the MS 1950/1903 .
    Greetings from Norway ;)

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello! Thanks for the idea! I like the original 1903 very much. I'll find one and a newer model. I still have the .264 Win. Mag. I hope to visit Norway one of these years. I received many messages about the Jarmann and other rifles from Norway - quite amazing. I learned a lot. All the best.

  • @asimseth1927
    @asimseth1927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike their is no other channel on utube like yours. Your the best. And yes Jim Corbett adventures of hunting in jungles of sundarban in present day Bangladesh are mind blowing

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Asim - true friend of mine across oceans. I hope to join you in those jungles for a hunt...life just keeps getting in the way. That's okay - the time will come. The very best to you and yours; peace be with you.

  • @rjvan9220
    @rjvan9220 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another home run! Love my mannlichers. Thanks as always!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you - they are so great and yet...so unknown....like the best things in life.

  • @geraldhemming9317
    @geraldhemming9317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i enjoy your collection and the way they intertwine with each other. I would have liked to see the Mannlicher across from a Sauer 200 or 202.

  • @jakeanderson8156
    @jakeanderson8156 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful rifles! Thank you for sharing!

  • @tjo4087
    @tjo4087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sure bring a high degree of class and expertise to the study of firearms!

  • @geraldgriffin8220
    @geraldgriffin8220 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From what I know the late Jim Corbett's name is pronounced Kor-bet, it's actually Irish but a lot of people presume it's somehow French,not that quite a few Irish names are scattered everywhere in Europe and not a few in France.

  • @sooner5484
    @sooner5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful. Thank you . Cheers.

  • @jamesdean5418
    @jamesdean5418 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your vids.....

  • @satwik180
    @satwik180 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are most welcome to India sir . It's an honour to meet you in person.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Sathvik - I will have an opportunity. I will contact you and visit you. My privilege. Let's visit the land and the people and see India as you know it.

  • @andrasnepijak1020
    @andrasnepijak1020 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nekem van egy Mosin Nagant vadászpuskám, Magyarországon Budapesten a FÉG fegyvergyárban készült 1995 ben. Kaliber 7,62x54r, a cső hidegen kovácsolt a tus faragott diófa. A belsőtárban 3 db patron van a tokon gyors kioldó van. Az elsütő billentyű snelleres, tolókás biztosító. A távcsö 6x56 Seeadler, távcsőszerelék patentlábas Shuli. András

  • @JimD4570
    @JimD4570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know if a way to check the headspace on the 1908 8x56MS? I have some old new stock Western Arms 8x56 ammo. The ammo is in very good condition visually.. But when using masking tape on the back of one of these rounds. I had to put 6 layers before getting too tight to close the bolt.. This measuring 20 thousandths of an inch thickness. This seems very excessive to me.. This same rifle, will almost chamber an 8x57 Mauser round the bolt will not close with the 8x57 Mauser round.. I am new to the 1908ms rifle.

  • @rupertmcnaughtdavis7302
    @rupertmcnaughtdavis7302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! And thanks for mentioning Jim Corbett.Have you read " The Maneating Leopard of Rudrapayag"?Compulsive reading!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Rupert! I have to find that book. Something tells me I read part of it somewhere. Good to hear from you.

    • @rupertmcnaughtdavis7302
      @rupertmcnaughtdavis7302 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must! That leopard led an almost charmed life,it`s a chilling story!

  • @khalidafhim187
    @khalidafhim187 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good

  • @Diwana71
    @Diwana71 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man eaters of Kumaon is a great read. Tiger, as Jim Corbett, called is a large hearted gentleman and is ultimate in patience and thinking and audacity. Which made it so hard to hunt them in the mountainous Jungles of Kumaon where no elephants or vehicles could go. Only walk and climb on foot.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish I could go on such a hunt. I mentioned this to a game designer and he said he could create a computer hunting game "Man Eaters of Kumaon" would be fantastic if done well.

    • @Diwana71
      @Diwana71 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns you must read the man eater leopard of Rudraprayag. To understand ultimate terror. He followed Jim Corbett and his guide in the dead of the night just some distance behind, on a moon less night, and they found it out in the morning. Nail biting.

    • @Diwana71
      @Diwana71 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns killing Tigers from an elephant back was very stupid and evil. The Tigers unlike lions are animals of stealth, hunt individually, the ultimate hunters with a very clever mind and patience and no fear. Jim Corbett went after such predators.

  • @ashmerch2558
    @ashmerch2558 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woooooohhh, what beautiful rifles they are, I always enjoy your informative videos they are brilliant and I especially enjoy the quality rifles you review. That Mannlicher Schoenauer is spectacular especially in one of my favorite rifle cartridges. My favorite 6.5mm (actually 6.71) cartridge the .264 Winchester Magnum. Exceptional rifle and exceptional video.

  • @dennistaylor3762
    @dennistaylor3762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Mannlicher rifle and carbine is the high water mark when comparing any bolt action rifle,their only problem was the workmanship that was required to archive such perfection is so expensive that like all great things it could no longer compete in the market place.Fortunately lots of them were made but unfortunately the people who own them wont part with them and the Mannlicher has achieved a cult following status that it rightly deserves.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes Dennis - the Mannlicher is an epitome of gunmaking. I view them as of timeless value and although market recognition ebbs and flows - as all things do; ultimately, the Mannlicher is an astonishing achievement in gun design.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't have mine.

  • @NYHalfassprepper
    @NYHalfassprepper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike is it possible that someone cut down your beaumont for display purposes? Mine is twice the size. I have a you tube friend working on making brass for this rifle.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so - too short and no front sight. No luck with ammo yet. Cheers.

  • @rc9266
    @rc9266 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The dutch Beaumont sight is missing because it has been shortened mine is about 50 inches long from stock to barrel

  • @jasonwilkins8705
    @jasonwilkins8705 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see you talk about the 6.555 Swedish mine has a door on the side that flips open as your magazine

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jason - That sounds like a Krag - certainly and still one of the most unique and excellent rifles.

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542
    @dalanwanbdiska6542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good day buddy, was wondering about your gun digests, is there a way I can get ahold of them like ordering from ebay or something¿ guns are awesome and the more I learn about them the better. Id like to get into reading about guns intead of just buying, selling, shooting. Any info would be great,Thanks. Also do you play video games or computer games?

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi dalan - I buy at used book stores and sometimes eBay and Amazon depending... and as for games - I like them all.

  • @michaelbrooker1433
    @michaelbrooker1433 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just won a Mannlicher Schoenauer 1903/14 1927 Breda Carbine an hour ago on GB. I had one of the 1903 commercial models in 8x56ms a few years ago but sold it. Ammo was unavailable, I had dies made and found a source converted brass, loaded my own. A beautiful rifle but I was compelled to sell it. At the time I had it there wasn't much on YT about it, had there been I might have kept it. The butterknife handle is pretty but I didn't find it to be that practicable.
    The carbine I bought was originally described as in 8mm, then corrected to be in 7x57. I'll find out what it really is when it arrives, with luck it will be in the original 6.5 caliber.

    • @rothhammer1492
      @rothhammer1492 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      All 1903 Mannlicher Schönauer rifles and carbines, military ('Greek', 'Breda'...) and commercial (M1903), were originally chambered for the 6.5X54 (rimless) MS. If your 8x56 was original, it was an M1908.
      The Mannlicher Schönauer sporting rifles prior to the M1924 (.30-'06) were each made for, and only chambered in, their corresponding proprietary MS cartridges; M1903 - 6.5X54, M1905 - 9X56, M1908 - 8X56, M1910 - 9.5X57. British trade knew the 9.5X57 as .375 Nitro Express Rimless 2.25", and some catalogues measured cartridges from different points than others (6.5 listed as 6.7, etc...).
      The M1924 , or 'Sequoia', was chambered for the 'U.S. Cartridge of 1906' (.30-'06) for the U.S. trade. Afterward, 'High Velocity' and subsequent models were offered in several popular calibres.

    • @michaelbrooker1433
      @michaelbrooker1433 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1927 is an Italian manufactured rifle for the Greek army. Mine has been modified to some 7mm caliber, I've not had a chamber cast done to determine exactly what it is. I've seen another 1927 turned into a nice sporter but it too has been modified to use a 7mm cartridge, again of unknown dimensions.
      Thanks for you response, the rifles are very interesting.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelbrooker1433 The Y1903/14/27 contract rifles may or may not have been 'manufactured' in Italy. Many are of the opinion that they were Steyr built, marked 'Breda' and 'drop shipped' through Italy (or, perhaps, assembled there) to avoid post WW1 export restrictions.

  • @santiagosolaro3962
    @santiagosolaro3962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. I am Santiago Solaro. From Argentina. I have a question.
    Haw cock the steiker the mannlicher and the mossin?
    Pulling the bolt, like the mauser 91-93? Or closig the bolt, like mauser 98?
    Thanks and congratulations for the chanel.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Santiago - The Mannlicher and Mossin both are cock on opening - lifting the bolt handle cocks the striker.
      Thanks for your kind words and all the best to you in Argentina.

    • @santiagosolaro3962
      @santiagosolaro3962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns I Am sory. But, cock on opening is like Enfield o mauser 91. O like mauser 98?
      Apologies for my pour english and my silye questions.
      Thank you

    • @santiagosolaro3962
      @santiagosolaro3962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns I am looking a video ebaut that, in Midway USA. An I See the diferences. Thanks. Veri much

  • @Eggomania86
    @Eggomania86 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't Jim Corbet's rifle a Rigby Mauser in .276 Rigby (7×57) ? Also didn't a famous Ivory hunter last name Bell I don't recall his first name use a manlicher-Schönauer in 6.5x54?

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're correct on both counts!

    • @rothhammer1492
      @rothhammer1492 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Walter Dalrymple Maitland, Bell.
      Is that a 'handle', or what? He was often referred to as W.D.M. Bell or as 'Karomojo' after an African region where he hunted pachyderms, often with a 6.5mm Mannlicher Schönauer.

  • @betchalife
    @betchalife 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another quality video my friend!
    Have you ever watched Iraqvetern8888's videos where they stress tested,and abused the heck out of an old Mosin?

  • @zoesdada8923
    @zoesdada8923 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It closes itself almost.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's close. Glass smooth.

    • @rothhammer1492
      @rothhammer1492 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My M1910 closes itself smoothly , crisply and completely by merely tilting the muzzle downward about forty - odd degrees with the trigger pulled (on empty chamber, of course!). Such smoothness of action is common among 'prewar' Mannlicher Schoenauer sporting arms (M1903, M1905, M1908, M1910, M1924).

    • @dennistaylor3762
      @dennistaylor3762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does close itself,just point it to the sky pull the trigger lower the muzzle towards the ground the bolt goes forward and the bolt handle drops down and locks,the only bolt action I know of that is machined so finely that can do this! I own 5 of them and they all do it with ease,its because there is no follower spring tension bearing up on the bottom of the bolt due to its rotary magazine not coming into contact with the bolt.

  • @gennerobootz6490
    @gennerobootz6490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The rifle in the middle the 264 Winchester magnum is amazing who makes that rifle

  • @danrozanski6130
    @danrozanski6130 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mannlicher Schoenauer/Gewehr 88 or Gewehr 71 Video! The rifles are SO similar!

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both Mannlicher Schoenauer and Mauser 98 have roots in the 1888 Gewehr 'Comission Rifle'.

  • @-oiiio-3993
    @-oiiio-3993 ปีที่แล้ว

    A more 'apples to apples' comparison would have been to use a Y1903 (or Y1903/14, Y1903/14/27, 'System 1930') 'Greek Contract' military Mannlicher Schoenauer as the Mosin and Beaumont are both in military trim.

  • @Heinrichstiti270
    @Heinrichstiti270 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The man-eaters of Kumar was great, he used a 7mm Mauser if I'm not wrong like William Bell. He used the larger dangerous game guns more though.

  • @mateuszrobsonowski7190
    @mateuszrobsonowski7190 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's Vetterli Vitali rifle in Bf1 Pretty similar to this Beaumont Vitali rifle Altough it has different action

  • @sancharino6878
    @sancharino6878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man oh Man that rifle is awesome. .264 win to boot. Have you fired it? I would assume it is superbly accurate.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Sanch - about half and inch at 100 - whenever non-target rifles shoot that well I'm amazed.

  • @borisbuliak3626
    @borisbuliak3626 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Read that has a young teen in another language. Wouldn't mind re-reading it. Btw a book that always reminds me that when we think we just invented something turns out it's been done millenia ago, Sinue the Egyptian.

  • @toendramist
    @toendramist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Beaumont was in the white. Not blued. I have one in mint shape made in Delft, not Maastricht.
    The shells can be made from 50-90 Sharps casings.
    It is made for BP, but it functions even better with 27 grains Accurate 5744.
    And it stays clean. But you will miss some kick and smoke.
    The bullet should be Lee SC 459-405HB for .45 Gov.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated - I'm going to try the 50-90 Sharps re-formed and the 5744! Will be great to get this one breathing again!

    • @toendramist
      @toendramist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns I use a CH4D Die Set 11 x 52 R Beaumont, That works very good.
      When you put a (just fitting) drill in the brass, you can cut it with a pipe cutter.
      You will love this gun, it's very accurate.
      When you use 5744 the bore stays clean and will not overheat. And there is no pitting. You don't need fillers.
      Use a large pistol primer.
      I use it for all old (museum state) weapons.
      Black powder is much more harmful for your old guns.
      In Europe it is sold as Lovex D060
      Succes.

  • @giorgituriashvili8420
    @giorgituriashvili8420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was my favourite book when I was a child. I was always curious how a panther or a tiger could kill 200-300 men before a "white hunter" killed them. I have read John Hunter's books and he says,that African predators never kill more than 3-4 human, before they are killed.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Giorgi - so hard to know exactly what happened - but numbers in history are always confused - the story is so captivating that I didn't mind the math or the logic sometimes. ; )

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably multiple animals killing multiple humans and the numbers getting out of reality due to fear of being eaten. I’m guessing the start of it is usually due to drought or some similar prey animal reduction typically caused by the people suddenly be predated upon. I’m in Vancouver Canada and we have had mountain lion issues across the inlet in North and West Vancouver often caused by prey reductions as a result of automobile deaths and culls as a result and of all things berry pickers and nature walkers pushing deer away and leaving hungry predators that attack pets and eventually humans.

  • @borkwoof696
    @borkwoof696 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For more history you might want to check out C&Rsenal, they have great videos on both the Mannlicher-Schönauer and the Mosin-Nagant

  • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
    @Gunners_Mate_Guns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Peruvian Mauser is in amazing shape.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought it from a fellow, 86 years old - he said it was in "good shape" - : ) I wish all people were like him.

    • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
      @Gunners_Mate_Guns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesOfGuns He understated it greatly!
      That little jewel is a real collector's item.

  • @bigfootdarrell13
    @bigfootdarrell13 ปีที่แล้ว

    More to the point was the origin of these type actions, being the 1871 Mauser...

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good comment BD; or as some other viewers mentioned - even earlier mechanisms. Anyway, it all started somewhere.

  • @vincef5832
    @vincef5832 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm considering selling my collection to get into custom made rifles. I have a Model 1956 MS-AG PUCH-Daimler. It has a double trigger and is a 30-06. Originally I was going to tinker with it because it needs a new fore end and maybe some refinishing. I also was considering sending it to New England Custom Gun for restoration. At this point in time I'd rather it get a home for someone that appreciates that type of firearm. I would make it worth your while-cost wise. Someone offered me $1200 twenty years ago. But at this point I would go much lower if you wanted it. I appreciate your channel so any amount you would think is fair for both of us I would welcome. I think $800 is fair to me but I would go lower for you because I know it is in the right hands. Let me know-thanks. Vince F. She still shoots great!

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting, they did not spare the steel on those older military rifles. I just came in from shooting a sporterized 1915 Lee Enfield that had not been shot for about 30 years. It is quite beat up but shot well enough.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That rifle - as old as it may be - is better than 90% of what is produced to day. You fired a legend - that waited for you for 30 years.

    • @pseudopetrus
      @pseudopetrus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The rifle is my uncles, and it came with cartridges that had crude brass, and a note that they were reloaded with 180 gr soft points, with a powder that I looked up as best as I could and some referred to it as a cordite powder. I bought "modest" modern ammo for my test shooting. I was not too worried about over pressure, the barrel, while being rifled, looked quite smooth, perhaps worn.

  • @roeng1368
    @roeng1368 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video as always. Did you happen to see that Corbetts rigby rifle, which he used in a lot of adventures, was recently returned to uttarkhand province in india.

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't know that - thank you - I have to go there. I "lived" that book - completely immersed - I think I could even smell India and the jungle. You and I should probably have lived a hundred fifty years ago - what a life.

    • @roeng1368
      @roeng1368 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      USOG
      I picked up WDM Bells excellent book "The wanderings of an elephant hunter" from a second hand book stall recently. Like Corbetts book, its a snapshot of a world long passed. It also dispels the myth that Africa was some sort of unspoilt paradise back then.

    • @MrPh30
      @MrPh30 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rigby in London owns his rifle .the .275 rifle. They took it back to India on the the tour , there is very good TH-cam videos of it . Amd if one visit Rigby booths on shows one might get lucky to handle the rifle .

  • @StarSwarm.
    @StarSwarm. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohh dear. Someone has horribly bubba’d that Dutch Beaumont. I’ve got two of them and that one is missing half it’s barrel. :(

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is true StarSwarm - a victim of modernitis. Fortunatley not camo'd or dipped. No zombie tattoos either.

    • @peterlazzari3950
      @peterlazzari3950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah and a horrible bluing job too. They were originally finished "In the white". Really enjoy your shows.

  • @manwithclass09
    @manwithclass09 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my few unfulfilled rifle "needs?wants"... A classic Mannlicher Schoenauer - I have looked at many - just have not found the right one yet at the right price. Someday for certain - I would really love to fine one in 6.5x54 but those are so hard to find now... We'll see - I have been close a few times on an M/S and just have not pulled the trigger yet. (pun intended) Thanks USOG!!!

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi : ) It is a legend - a revelation and excalibur - if I didn't tell you already - I climbed a water tower once and from that abandoned relic could see so far....so far. I waited and waited - as hunters do - and at last a deer came out ages far away I had no means to calculate just how far. Still, I knew velocity and energy - to a fault - and completely guessed - I mean completely - maybe 3 feet to the right and maybe two feet above. You know what I mean. And at last I fired. It took forever - so long I could settle the scope after the shot in time to see the deer fall - and that was it. Diana - goddess of the hunt - must have been with me that day. There are moments in life each one of us has - that no one will ever know. I consider these moments the secret and meaning of life; because we know. I'm so glad you are here.

    • @manwithclass09
      @manwithclass09 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand completely Sir. The willingness to wait forever and do so in really awful weather - is hard to explain to a non-hunter. And, I even understand the feeling that Diana was on your side on that given day. Every deer I harvest - I feel just a bit of remorse - hard to explain unless you are a hunter. But I do love it so - everything about it. So nice to talk to and read comments from the "Kindred Spirits" that make up your subscribers.

    • @-oiiio-3993
      @-oiiio-3993 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you found your Mannlicher Schoenauer yet?
      Ask Santa for an M1903 with original claw mount scope.

  • @ashmerch2558
    @ashmerch2558 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey USOG, your a Mauser guy.... How bout a video on a converted Siamese Mauser in 45-70

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ash - wow - reality must involve unknown connections between people. I have on my desk this morning a Siamese Mauser action. I was trying to figure out if I could build a .348 Winchester on it. As I was handling the action - your message came in. Amazing...and yes....I will. Thanks and have a great and safe weekend. I have over a hundred requests for videos - but I'll get to this one soon.

  • @satwik180
    @satwik180 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello sir ,
    First of all I would like you to thank you for showing the MAN EATERS BY JIM CORBETT.. ist a wonderful book which can give a wast knowledge about how the Indian forest was and about the WOUNDED ANIMALS BEHIVIOR TOWARDS HUMAN .
    I have read a couple of books of Jim Corbett and they are just amazing . I have lost my sleep for 2 days unless I finished one book.
    Now coming to the business I have noticed you dry firing guns . That might cost you a fairly expensive repairs as
    1) the firing pin may break off
    2) the firing pin retention spring may get damage
    3) the body ( action ) of guns may damage which reduces the value of firearms.
    I kindly request you to use a snap caps to lower the hammer of guns .
    I know you are aware of all those factors. But what to do it's my profession sir .
    Regards
    SATHVIK

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Sathvik - I must come to India to meet you. Thank you so much.

  • @cavscout888
    @cavscout888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bubba cut that Beaumont. :(
    Nagant actions are terrible...
    The Beaumont went from one of the best to a gun that killed itself. The thin walls remaining after being cut for mags made the gun too weak and they blow out. Luckily then smokeless powder came...

    • @UnitedStatesOfGuns
      @UnitedStatesOfGuns  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's true - but somehow I like it and hope to get it cooking again. : )