I have watched this several times. This is IMO a holy grail rifle. Exceptional fit and finish. Thank you Mike for sharing this with us. Another example of how this channel brings information no other does.
I return to your video to tell that I went and purchased a Mannlicher-Schönauer model GK rather similar to yours yesterday, although mine is in 7x64 Brenneke, with a rather well loved finish, and wearing a Hensolt Wetzler 1.5-6x36 Diavari. Danish gun laws are not the worst in the world, but they leave us at the mercy of a slow bureaucracy. They cannot tell me when my application will be processed, but they can inform me that the applications they are currently processing were sent in in early May. Oh bother, this means there will probably be no roe deer in my freezer this fall. Maybe in January. Take care sir!
This is my second favorite bolt-action rifle, after the K98K. I really like the earlier models of the Mannlicher Schoenauer, especially the ones with two triggers and a scope.
I am a collector myself and have a few nice guns, but you, Sir, have the cream of guns. Thank you for sharing with us. That Mannlicher-Schönauer is stunning.
I picked up a full stocked carbine version of this rifle in 270 Winchester in the beginning of 2023. It was made in 1954, IRC. It had a B&L 2.5-8x40 non adjustable scope with an adjustable scope mount. It was top of the line in its time. Unfortunately the scope had flecks on the interior lens surface. No one services these scopes so I picked up a Swarovski Z3 2.5-10x42 for a replacement. It's a beautiful rifle. Your video helped sway me to buy it. Thanks!
Hey Mike! I love this video. I am fortunate to have two Mannlicher Schoenauers. One is a 1966 model MCA .243 with a stock that looks just like yours (black end cap, monte carlo butt stock checkering, etc.). The other is a 1975 M72 .22-250 with the full Mannlicher stock. Both have the adjustable set-trigger system that is simply like no other I've ever experienced. I am not exaggerating when I say that these triggers are so extremely sensitive, crisp and precise, that you could nearly pull one just by thinking about it. To say that EXTREME CAUTION must be exercised when using that feature is an understatement!! Furthermore, I read somewhere and have come to understand that adjusting these set triggers can be a fool's proposition. The reason for this is that one runs the risk of setting them so light that, if you were to point the barrel to the sky, the weight of the trigger itself will cause it to fire! I have never tested either of my rifles for trigger pull weight when in the set mode (or otherwise), but I can tell you that it is far from being measured in pounds. I have taken them to the range on a number of occasions to simply ensure they've maintained their respective zeroes, and I will admit that I have had them startle me two or three times by sounding-off before I was truly in my zone! Oh, I almost forgot.. YES, they are extremely accurate! Two of my favorite all time firearms. Thanks so much for yet another outstanding video! John
Hi John! Both the MCA in .243 and the 22-250 are scarce - as I'm sure you know - and I'm glad you have them! I've had so many people bring me double sets that were adjusted to death by someone. Some I bought would fire on their own just after the bolt was closed and the handle touched bottom. They can be adjusted back to life but I am ever so careful and I take the action out and micron by micron get the heart beating again haha. I still can't believe how fine these rifles are John.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Yes, they are very scarce and I'm so grateful to have them in my care. As for the set triggers, I am fairly certain they were factory adjusted and haven't been touched since. I do absolutely love the pinnacle of quality they represent.
Fantastic video Mike, I do love the workmanship I see in that Mannlicher Schoenauer. I realize that a cheaper gun may shoot as well, but the engineering is there, and I believe that rifles such as the one you reviewed add knowledge, and add to the pursuit of the ultimate bolt rifle!
There is an exquisite example at a local shop. It is in a transport case with documentation, was owned by a British colonel. It is in 9.3mm, a box of ammo is included. It was used on African game. Expensive but it really calls to me. Time to get a home equity loan...
Excellent review. The buttery smooth action has always set that rifle apart from all other mausers. It doesn't slide in and out, it glides. The 6.5 is a great rifle.
This is one rifle that I have never had the pleasure of owning. I have seen and handled many at gun shows here in the Houston area and admired them greatly but this was back in the day (90's) that I was still a believer in magnums, etc. I had not been "edgycated" on the merits of the 6.5 yet. That didn't come until I had my custom 6.5x55 swede made. Now I wish I had picked up one of those Schoenauers back then in 6.5. Again, stupid is stupid does...lol
Thank you. Both the Mannlicher Schoenauer and Mauser 98 are beautiful firearms. You mentioned the rotary magazine and its impressive. I prefer just about any top loading mag.
My dad had one of those back in the sixties he said even though it was a featherweight in .243 it would print a three shot group at 100 yards that a cigarette butt would cover.
Great review and that is a beautiful Mannlicher Schoenauer! After seeing this vid, I put one on my must-have list! I've been looking for quite a while and happened across a really nice Mannlicher Schoenauer Model 1956 MC in .243 made in 1959 online that included mounts and a modern Burris scope. It looks nearly identical to the one you reviewed here. The old-world craftsmanship of those rifles is just awe-inspiring. I can't wait for it to arrive so I can take it to the range. I picked up a like-new vintage Bushnell Scope Chief 3-9 from 1959 to put on it. Would love a vintage Kahles but too pricey for me!
Brilliant purchase - these are especially rare in .243 - you made a very fine purchase! Please let us know how the shooting goes - scope is great as well. Cheers.
In a previous comment to you, I described how a man tried to deceive me when he was trying to sell me a rifle. It was a Mannlicher Schoenauer like you have here. It had a cracked receiver in the area behind the bolt handle lug. I don't think it was a design flaw. I think the gun probably belonged to a reloader name Bubba who couldn't understand his reloading manual. Anyway, that is a very nice hunting rifle and I love those butter knife bolt handles!
That is a vulnerable area of the MS stock and a known area for cracks to appear. I have never heard of a n MS receiver cracking there, however, so I suppose you're likely correct.
Mike, I agree with you. It is the most beautiful rifle i have seen. Having been to Austria many times, I am recognizing their craftsmanship and sense of beauty. The bolt itself is a masterpiece of engineering and refinement.
Hi Andre - Thanks for the affirmation - I wish I could have been in Austria more...but time is short. Anyway - you would know what's what with Austrian guns and probably a lot more. All the best my friend.
I have a MS Model 1952 half stock with a swept back blued bolt handle in 257 Roberts. A pleasant rifle to shoot - my +60 year old shoulder appreciates the quarter bores more and more. If I could offer just a few odds and ends to this fine tutorial. NECG in VT offers EAW and Paul Jaeger side mounts for the MS and did a terrific job fitting mine. The Model 1952 and later came with a metal plate inletted on the left side of the receiver to facilitate mounts such as the Jaeger, Griffin & Howe, Pachmayr "swing lo" type and the Echo, Leupold. I don't recall the model year but the MS came factory drilled & tapped for the EAW type dogleg mount. Redfield offered the MS mounts using conventional rings. I found a set at a gun show about 15 years back , just looking for the right MS to put them on. As an aside, the front sight hood for a Browning BPR makes an excellent replacement for the MS version. Thank you for the video.
Thank you Doug - I didn't know about the hood fitting - I'll look for one for the Browning for my MS. Thank you also for the NECG info - I was just on their web site today shopping for sights - I'll look at the mounts. Finally - you have a dream rifle in .257 Roberts - superb by any measure. I used to hunt with a Rem. 760 in .257 Roberts and then the voices made me sell it. : ) No idea why I would do that. Take care my friend.
My first rifle purchase after I became legal age was an 88 in 8x57J. Set triggers, nice stock and express sights. Ammo was hard to find locally. I lived a couple of hours away from Mashburn Arms when they were in still in business. Found out after I sold it for a profit for 150 dollars that Mashburn had Norma ammo for it.
Lovely rifle, great presentation. Just a point though. It's not really a "Mannlicher" action, old Ferddy didn't have much to do with it, though he was plant manager at Steyr at the time. The man most responsible for that action and it's grampa, the 88' , was a fella named Schlegelmilch. OEW/Steyr had gotten a contract to produce the 88' and afterwards continued to offer that action in the follow on Romanian, Dutch and Greek contracts in somewhat modified forms. F.M. was quite a capable designer, but this one just wasn't his baby.
Thank you Thomas! I'll have to read more. : ) I just go by what is marked by the factory on the receiver ring and what most people abide by. I love the idea of calling it a Schlegelmilch though. I looked up what the meaning of Schlegelmilch (just the word) is and could only find "drumstick cow" - please let me know what the practical meaning is if possible. Many thanks again.
Well, the fellas name is Louis Schlegelmilch. Quite an innovator in his own right. Went on to design, among others, one of the competitors to the Mauser 98 in those German army trials.
Quite correct. The design did, no doubt, benefit from ol' Ferd's prior contributions to firearms design, however, and I'm sure I've read that after Herr Mannlicher died in 1904 his wife was paid royalties for the design. The 'en bloc clip' of the Gewehr 88 was absolutely "his baby", was originally marketed as the 'Mannlicher Packet Loading System", and was the reason OEWG got that fat manufacturing contract for the 'Commission Rifle", or Gewehr 1888.
The side mount is actually quite comforting. There are some issues with front mounts being drilled to deep in, making the chambre structrally unsound. At least the research, I did stated that. Such a sweet pull while repeating. The successor M72 is also a nice rifle, but does not come close to the pull. Also the inlay including the follower on the M72 is made of plastic.
Thank you 😊. because of this fine Channel that you have and for making me aware of the Mannlicher Schoenauer rifle i was able to locate and buy one today , a beautiful untouched 1952 in Winchester 270 with a 24” barrel ! Thanks again 👍
My goodness Johannes - that is a astounding - you must run and buy lottery tickets - you have all the luck! I would not have thought it possible. Well done and I'm glad my vids are helpful. All the best and please keep in touch!
Thanks for this video Mike; a helpful intro to the Mannlicher-Schoenauer action, which I wanted to learn about, to compare with the Mauser 98 action. Re making these videos, I have a suggestion. Your video assistant is doing a great job but the camera's light meter is reacting to the brightness of the white tablecloth. The sensor's gain is reducing to compensate, which is making the detail in the dark parts of these very interesting firearms disappear. If you were to try a cloth with a more neutral colour, the details you are describing would stand out much better. The ideal solution would be a light to medium grey coloured cloth, with 18% relectance. Ha! That is - a grey card! 😃 The camera would love and understand what it's seeing and your demonstration videos would 'pop'! Thanks again and all the best.
The fit and finish is impressive but I don't like the bolt being so far forward as it may mean the stock changes position in my shoulder as I reach to cycle it.
Very true. Somehow though, I don't notice it or even remember it in use. I probably don't make sense but I drive standard transmission cars as well and the automatic people say "How and why do you do that - it is so awkward!" That may be true - but I don't notice a thing - shifting is like that bolt handle. : ) Hope I'm not nuts.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I drive a hopped up Willys 'Jeep' with four shift levers (gearshift, overdrive, twin stick transfer case) and own an M1910 Take Down MS. If you're 'nuts' I must be stark, raving, mad!
A gentleman's rifle. I owned Carbine, 1950's production, 308 Win. hard extracting. I traded it, to a gunsmith, for an American made rifle as repairing the extraction problem was more than I could afford. I miss having it, and I miss having it when I visit a public firing range.
i saw one of these in 264 win mag decked out in engravings, double set triggers, and a scope go for almost $3k. makes me feel like my 1903 and 1924 were a steal for $1k each
Those were a steal - in fine condition they're all advancing in value; it is more and more difficult to find quality in anything these days - as you've observed I'm sure.
The reason the lug is split on Mauser 98 is for the ejector to go through the lug. On a Ruger m77 or winchester m70 the ejector is placed lower and they have 2 solid front lugs
Zastava lk m70 is a traditional mauser with the rear locking lug and the ejector through the front lug. Ruger and winchester got rid of the rear locking lug and use the bolt handle instead
That Mannlicher-Schoenauer is a beautiful rifle and the shadow line cheek piece is a classy touch. I find it interesting that this particular firearm is in .264 Winchester Magnum at a time when the 7 mm Remington Magnum was taking the hunting world by storm, and now the .264 Winchester Magnum is making a comeback. I have mentioned having a G98/40 rifle based on a Mannlicher action. This rifle is a hybrid of a Mannlicher-Schoenauer and a K98 Mauser. The main difference is that it has a box magazine instead of a rotating magazine. The machining is precise and the action is smooth. As to whether the Mannlicher-Schoenauer is the finest bolt rifle ever designed is debatable. To have so many truly great bolt actions that allow for such debate and to have no wrong answers is a wonderful thing. My choice in this debate is the pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .375 Holland & Holland. Anyway, thank you for another wonderful video.
Stoeger's 1958 catalog listed the 'new' Magnum MS in 6.5X68, 8X68S, and .458 Winchester Magnum. By 1961 they had added .257 Weatherby Mag, .264 Win. Mag., and .338 Win. Mag. to their offerings.
@@-oiiio-3993 I enjoy going through the old catalogs and seeing what guns were offered, and in what calibers. It is just that by 1963 the .264 Winchester Magnum had developed a negative reputation, and the 7mm Remington Magnum had truly taken the gun buying crowd in the United States by storm. So to me it would make sense for a company that is trying to sell a gun in the United States to try to capitalize on the hot new cartridge. There is one thing that is certain in my mind, and that is there really are a lot fine bolt actions that a person can pick as the finest hunting bolt action of all time, and not be wrong.
Mi fa piacere guardare le tue recensioni. Vedo che apprezzi in modo particolare i fucili che amo di più. Possiedo un Sauer 80 Cal 7 RM , un Mannlicher Schoenauer cal 7 x 64 , un Mauser 66 Cal 6,5 x 68 , un Blaser Kiplauf 6,5 x 57 R, un Carcano 6,5 x 52 e Sabatti express cal30-06. Faccio la caccia agli ungulati in Italia. Ciao.
Ciao! Grazie per il vostro messaggio. Hai un'ottima collezione. Il tuo Mauser 66 è particolarmente raro, ma tutti i fucili che possiedi sono di prima classe. Mi piace anche cacciare di più i cervi. Tutto il meglio per te in Italia!
Great rifle and great video ,, love the rifle and I’m going to have to get one , my wife is going to end up getting angry at both of us , you for making The videos and making me aware of such fine rifles and of course for me then searching and finding one and of course buying it, LOL. 👍😊👍
Thank you Johannes! I hope you get one soon; above all these are of great intrinsic value and serve the owner and can serve the family in many ways, as well as being investments of the useful kind : )
I just bought one marked made in Austria 1903 in 6.5x54 and find it elegant in its trimly stock and smooth bolt. I enjoy shooting open sights and find the rear flat sight more favorable to hunting vs other forms of open sights. You mentioned finding the manufacturer date and I cannot for the life of me find the reference material to give me the answer. My serial number is #199XX. Any idea the year of production or the resource to find out myself? Thanks for this and all your videos.
'Made in Austria' dates receiver to 1924 or later, changed to 'Made in Germany' with the 1938 Anschluss. Post - WW2 production resumed with Model 1950. Pre WW2 Austrian proof dates were stamped on receiver and barrel under the wood line. Disassemble carefully _with proper fitting (thin) drivers_ and find a number such as _xxxx.xx_ , the latter two digits being year of proof. As example, 1234.26 would indicate the 1,234th arm to be 'nitro proofed' at Vienna during 1926. Serial numbers are of little aid in 'dating' an MS.
Thx for sharing this very pretty tool Frank de Haas: - 6,5 x 54r Walter Dalrymple Maitland "Karamojo Bell" was the hunter who made this caliber/rifle known w 1500 elephant kills It's the equivalent of the 6,5x55 AND a very pretty rifle. Congrats with it Frank de Haas is as usual the guy to go too
Bell did not kill 1500 elephants with a Mannlicher Schoenauer. He documented some elephant kills (several 'brain shots') with the M1903, and on recovering spent projectiles became dissatisfied with the bullet performance (ammunition was an issue with them in their early years). Bell did carry the little MS carbine and was very fond of it for birds, 'game getting' and 'filling the pot'. He documented everything.
@@navigator1383 With Rigby built Mausers in .275 Rigby (7X57), Westley Richards Mausers in .318, and a much smaller number with an M1903 MS. On recovering the MS projectiles, he became dissatisfied with the bullet's performance. Ammunition was unreliable in the early 1900s.
@@-oiiio-3993 Very interesting. From where do you have this info? If correction is needed i'd like to read it. I'm sure there would be more interesting info from that source
Hi we have a MS 1910 .375 rimless. I don’t know much about it and Couldn’t find anything regarding it anywhere. Could you please give some insight whether to inherit it or no. If you could please make a video regarding it thank you.
The "butter knife" bolt handle is distinctive of the Mannlicher, but it's hard to see how comfortable it would be to work a bolt with that odd handle, especially when working it rapidly for a followup shot.
It sure looks that way PinkOld - somehow though - I didn't notice a thing; not hunting and not at the range. Maybe it is because with the Mannlicher Schoenauer in hand one's feet are not touching the ground.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns haha It's definitely a thing of beauty, both from a mechanical and esthetic aspect, so yeah, you'd probably be levitating a bit with one.
The 'butterknife' style bolt handle was also available from Mauser on what Stoeger called the 'Number 615' in their 1939 catalog, which also had the full length 'stutzen' stock and short barrel. I have a M1910 Take Down Model and find no difficulty at all with the handle. The action of these rifles must be felt to be believed. The bolt nearly jumps open with a flick of the finger and slides home as if on greased ice. It's all one very fluid motion.
I use a Mannlicher Schönauer 1903/14 from my grandfather for many years as my primary weapon for roedeer and wildboar. No problem at all for a ery quick reload and a follow-up shot. ;-)
I didn’t know mannlicher made a 264 win mag. Usually ones I’ve seen are in European sporting cartridges, 270 and 30-06. Another gun I’d like to get. Great video as always
USOG it would have to be factory unless someone went through a lot of effort to rechamber and re barrel one. I’ll have to look in some of the older shooters bibles I have. Very neat and uncommon though
USOG I just dug out the 1965 shooters bible and it is listed for chambering in the “magnum” rifle. I like having a large array of books and manuals for reference however they don’t include firearms produced for distributors
Stoeger's 1958 catalog listed the 'new' Magnum MS in 6.5X68, 8X68S, and .458 Winchester Magnum. By 1961 they had added .257 Weatherby Mag, .264 Win. Mag., and .338 Win. Mag. to their offerings.
Beautiful rifle, sir. I love the magazine. I wish there was a way to mate a M-S magazine to a Mauser bolt. Maybe there is, and I'm just not aware of how.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns When I have the funds for such a project, I will ask Lars Rannstad Slang of Oslo, Norway to build me such a rifle. I would love to have it as a take-down, with barrels in 9.3x62 and 7x57. Or maybe even in .318 Westley Richards. Well, a boy can dream, can he not? Have a great day sir, I always enjoy your videos.
Hi I have a 1966 alpine version of this in 270 with a kohl's scope decorative. I can't find much on the internet about this model I also have a spare factory barrel. Came from a deceased estate. Do you know anything about this model. BTW great channel I learn a lot every post keep them coming cheers
Hello - that is a rare and special model. I only handled Alpines - never had a chance to own one yet - with the scope and spare barrel - you have a very valuable item. I know of one Alpine in 7x64 that was in fine condition - the fellow got $2800. for it.
Hi Joseph - it took me awhile to find - but they are around; this particular combination of heavier barrel and .264 Win. Mag. is a little more challenging. I hope you get one - or something like it.
A full chapter on MS rifles in Headrick’s book: Gamefield Classics, entitled “Silk & Steel.” Just bought a MS MCA 1961 chambered in 243 Win. Looks “as new.” $1900 out the door. 😊
Thank you for this video. I have an MCA in .30-06 that I purchased from a deceased family member's estate. It had been used for hunting in Alaska, and has a crack in the black fore-end cap, which appears to have had some kind of epoxy applied to keep it from cracking any further. Can you suggest anyone who might be able to do a proper repair job on it?
Sir stayer mannlicher also 12 guage double barrel gun with caring of 16 guage barrel if you know about it Please make a video on it share with us more detail I m search on it but i have not much detail about this gun
HI, I wonder if you could give me some info? I am looking at a rifle that I may buy that is stamped SCHOENAUER GES STEYR M1908 RIFLE 7.9X56. Do you know if this rifle would take the same ammo as the 1908 8x56 Mannlicher Schoenauer? Thanks in ad advance. Jim.
All M1908 MS were originally chambered for the 8X56MS. It would be prudent, however, to 'slug' the bore prior to loading in case it may have been altered. Where is it stamped 'rifle' and '7.9X56'?
@@-oiiio-3993 It is stamped on the barrel shank just in front of the receiver. There is what looks like a phoenix stamp and then a B with a crown over it and right in front of that it is stamped 7.9 m/m 56 Then below that stamp it looks like a coat of arms and above there is an N with a crown over it. Then it is stamped( St . m . G ) and ( 12 gr ) another stamp under them right at the stock line, that is sideways that looks like an NPV or NDV?
@@JimD4570 You have Austrian, German, and British proofs (she's been around). I am unaware of any Mannlicher or Steyr product (factory) stamped _"SCHOENAUER GES STEYR M1908 RIFLE 7.9X56."_ All MS sporting rifle and stutzen (full length carbine) receivers manufactured before mid 1926 were stamped _Oesterr. Waffenfabr. Ges-Steyr_ on the left rail, changed to _Steyr Werke AG_ in mid 1926. The front receiver bridges of M1908 were stamped (line 1) ORIGINAL, (line 2) MANNLICHER, (line 3) SCHOENAUER, (line 4) M1908. At some point line 1 was changed to PATENT. Steyr did not mark the pre M1924 MS with their 'kaliber'. Prototype M1900 and the early models were specific to their own MS proprietary cartridge: M1900, M1903 - 6.5X54MS M1905 - 9X56 M1908 - 8X56 M1910 9.5X57 The M1924 had a longer receiver and was originally chambered for the .30-'06, then continued production in a variety of chamberings with the 'KALIBER' stamped in place of 'M1924'. The NPv is Austrian, the 'nitro' (smokeless) proof mark from Vienna. A crown over BP or BV would be a Birmingham (England) proof mark. Crown over NP would also be a B'ham nitro proof. The St.m.g. is German for Stahlmantelgeschoss (Steeljacketbullet), 12 g for 12 grams bullet weight. All of your proofs seem consistent with the 8X56MS. The prudent and safe thing to do would be to have a chamber cast done just to be sure. Many have been rebored over time to accept more readily available cartridges.
@@JimD4570 If you post images of your (presuming you bought it) MS to NitroExpressForums you'll find that they have a Mannlicher specific thread with many knowledgeable members who will be glad to share information. For disassembly be sure to use proper fitting (thin) screwdrivers. Disassembly instructions can be found at The Mannlicher Collector's Association or on NE.
07:01 - There is no such thing as a "Mannlicher Carcano". That is an oft repeated misnomer left over from flawed reporting of the John F. Kennedy assassination. The Carcano was neither Steyr built nor Mannlicher designed. It was designed and built as the Modelo 91 (M91), or Novatuno, by Italians Salvatore Carcano of Turin Arms and General Giacomo Paravicino of Terni Arsenal to work with the new (1890) Italian 6.35x52 cartridge.
NEVVER buy a Mannlicher Schönauer, where the front bridge was drilled or gave a cut out to take a mount. Those rifles are not reliable any more. There is only on correct way to mount the front of a scope on am Mannlicher Schönauer. It is a ring on the base of the barrel.
@7:25 so glad you did that,the crooked floorplate was bugging me lol
I know what you mean : )
I love my Mannlicher Schoenaurs, 1903's, 1908's etc., all are full stock/set trigger's/german claw mount optics, simply perfect.
Try a Take Down Model.
Undoubtedly Mike is a universal friend for all firearm enthusiasts taking so much pain in explaining so much to his friends and followers
Thank you Asim!
I have watched this several times. This is IMO a holy grail rifle. Exceptional fit and finish. Thank you Mike for sharing this with us. Another example of how this channel brings information no other does.
Thank you ZH - I try.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You sir DO, TH-cam is filled with people who try. Keep up the good work sir.
Hemingway's favorite rifle!
I didn't know that Stan - thank you!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns There are photos of him with them. He also included the rifle in some of his stories.
Stan Sbornak in 6.5x54mm from memory. 👍
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns In "The short happy life of Francis Macomber'
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns www.standardsinstitutes.org/sites/default/files/material/winter16_ela_9-12_day_2_session_1-macomber.pdf
I return to your video to tell that I went and purchased a Mannlicher-Schönauer model GK rather similar to yours yesterday, although mine is in 7x64 Brenneke, with a rather well loved finish, and wearing a Hensolt Wetzler 1.5-6x36 Diavari.
Danish gun laws are not the worst in the world, but they leave us at the mercy of a slow bureaucracy. They cannot tell me when my application will be processed, but they can inform me that the applications they are currently processing were sent in in early May. Oh bother, this means there will probably be no roe deer in my freezer this fall. Maybe in January.
Take care sir!
Today I finally got a Mannlicher Shonauer in 8x68s. I can’t wait to be hunting with it!!
This is my second favorite bolt-action rifle, after the K98K. I really like the earlier models of the Mannlicher Schoenauer, especially the ones with two triggers and a scope.
I am a collector myself and have a few nice guns, but you, Sir, have the cream of guns. Thank you for sharing with us. That Mannlicher-Schönauer is stunning.
Johnny Cash used one in the early 60s. On his Newfoundland moose hunt.
Lots of pictures on the internet, he looks quite proud of the rifle.
I picked up a full stocked carbine version of this rifle in 270 Winchester in the beginning of 2023. It was made in 1954, IRC. It had a B&L 2.5-8x40 non adjustable scope with an adjustable scope mount. It was top of the line in its time. Unfortunately the scope had flecks on the interior lens surface. No one services these scopes so I picked up a Swarovski Z3 2.5-10x42 for a replacement. It's a beautiful rifle. Your video helped sway me to buy it. Thanks!
My, that MS is a thing of beauty!
thanks, recently i read the old US patent of this rotary magazine system and viewing your video, finally understand the whole mechanism of this rifle
Hi Percy - pretty amazing isn't it. Completely reliable and elegant.
Hey Mike! I love this video. I am fortunate to have two Mannlicher Schoenauers. One is a 1966 model MCA .243 with a stock that looks just like yours (black end cap, monte carlo butt stock checkering, etc.). The other is a 1975 M72 .22-250 with the full Mannlicher stock. Both have the adjustable set-trigger system that is simply like no other I've ever experienced. I am not exaggerating when I say that these triggers are so extremely sensitive, crisp and precise, that you could nearly pull one just by thinking about it. To say that EXTREME CAUTION must be exercised when using that feature is an understatement!! Furthermore, I read somewhere and have come to understand that adjusting these set triggers can be a fool's proposition. The reason for this is that one runs the risk of setting them so light that, if you were to point the barrel to the sky, the weight of the trigger itself will cause it to fire! I have never tested either of my rifles for trigger pull weight when in the set mode (or otherwise), but I can tell you that it is far from being measured in pounds. I have taken them to the range on a number of occasions to simply ensure they've maintained their respective zeroes, and I will admit that I have had them startle me two or three times by sounding-off before I was truly in my zone! Oh, I almost forgot.. YES, they are extremely accurate! Two of my favorite all time firearms. Thanks so much for yet another outstanding video! John
Hi John! Both the MCA in .243 and the 22-250 are scarce - as I'm sure you know - and I'm glad you have them! I've had so many people bring me double sets that were adjusted to death by someone. Some I bought would fire on their own just after the bolt was closed and the handle touched bottom. They can be adjusted back to life but I am ever so careful and I take the action out and micron by micron get the heart beating again haha. I still can't believe how fine these rifles are John.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Yes, they are very scarce and I'm so grateful to have them in my care. As for the set triggers, I am fairly certain they were factory adjusted and haven't been touched since. I do absolutely love the pinnacle of quality they represent.
Fantastic video Mike, I do love the workmanship I see in that Mannlicher Schoenauer. I realize that a cheaper gun may shoot as well, but the engineering is there, and I believe that rifles such as the one you reviewed add knowledge, and add to the pursuit of the ultimate bolt rifle!
They are special for sure - and the pursuit goes on : )
There is an exquisite example at a local shop. It is in a transport case with documentation, was owned by a British colonel. It is in 9.3mm, a box of ammo is included. It was used on African game. Expensive but it really calls to me. Time to get a home equity loan...
Excellent review. The buttery smooth action has always set that rifle apart from all other mausers. It doesn't slide in and out, it glides. The 6.5 is a great rifle.
Perfect description. Thank you.
This is one rifle that I have never had the pleasure of owning. I have seen and handled many at gun shows here in the Houston area and admired them greatly but this was back in the day (90's) that I was still a believer in magnums, etc. I had not been "edgycated" on the merits of the 6.5 yet. That didn't come until I had my custom 6.5x55 swede made. Now I wish I had picked up one of those Schoenauers back then in 6.5. Again, stupid is stupid does...lol
@@easttexan2933 The pre WW2 Mannlicher Schoenauers were chambered for cartridges up to 10.75X68.
Thank you. Both the Mannlicher Schoenauer and Mauser 98 are beautiful firearms. You mentioned the rotary magazine and its impressive. I prefer just about any top loading mag.
Me too Rich.
I bought a model GK in 7x64 in pretty good condition. Beautiful rifle.
My dad had one of those back in the sixties he said even though it was a featherweight in .243 it would print a three shot group at 100 yards that a cigarette butt would cover.
Such a beautiful piece of workmanship. Long has been one of my favs!
Still one of my favorite videos. I absolutely love the elegance of that rifle. I still haven’t come across one. One day.
Own two, a rifle and carbine , grew up on the former and picked mine up in Germany. Love them.
Great review and that is a beautiful Mannlicher Schoenauer! After seeing this vid, I put one on my must-have list! I've been looking for quite a while and happened across a really nice Mannlicher Schoenauer Model 1956 MC in .243 made in 1959 online that included mounts and a modern Burris scope. It looks nearly identical to the one you reviewed here. The old-world craftsmanship of those rifles is just awe-inspiring. I can't wait for it to arrive so I can take it to the range. I picked up a like-new vintage Bushnell Scope Chief 3-9 from 1959 to put on it. Would love a vintage Kahles but too pricey for me!
Brilliant purchase - these are especially rare in .243 - you made a very fine purchase! Please let us know how the shooting goes - scope is great as well. Cheers.
In a previous comment to you, I described how a man tried to deceive me when he was trying to sell me a rifle. It was a Mannlicher Schoenauer like you have here. It had a cracked receiver in the area behind the bolt handle lug. I don't think it was a design flaw. I think the gun probably belonged to a reloader name Bubba who couldn't understand his reloading manual. Anyway, that is a very nice hunting rifle and I love those butter knife bolt handles!
That is a vulnerable area of the MS stock and a known area for cracks to appear.
I have never heard of a n MS receiver cracking there, however, so I suppose you're likely correct.
Hi sir,i have learned much knowladge about guns that i didnt see and even dont hear about them,thank you very much🙏👍
Mike, I agree with you. It is the most beautiful rifle i have seen. Having been to Austria many times, I am recognizing their craftsmanship and sense of beauty. The bolt itself is a masterpiece of engineering and refinement.
Hi Andre - Thanks for the affirmation - I wish I could have been in Austria more...but time is short. Anyway - you would know what's what with Austrian guns and probably a lot more. All the best my friend.
I have one a 1958 Mannlicher schonauer in 3006 model with the swept back bolt handle and full stock very nice rifles indeed.
Thanks for the very enjoyable and informative videos.
It is my privilege Cool Breeze.
Yes! Met someone who owns one and have experienced how wonderful these actions are. Something to aspire to having in ones life for a while for sure,,
Superb and intelligently designed - a privilege to own - you're right!
I have a MS Model 1952 half stock with a swept back blued bolt handle in 257 Roberts. A pleasant rifle to shoot - my +60 year old shoulder appreciates the quarter bores more and more. If I could offer just a few odds and ends to this fine tutorial. NECG in VT offers EAW and Paul Jaeger side mounts for the MS and did a terrific job fitting mine. The Model 1952 and later came with a metal plate inletted on the left side of the receiver to facilitate mounts such as the Jaeger, Griffin & Howe, Pachmayr "swing lo" type and the Echo, Leupold. I don't recall the model year but the MS came factory drilled & tapped for the EAW type dogleg mount. Redfield offered the MS mounts using conventional rings. I found a set at a gun show about 15 years back , just looking for the right MS to put them on. As an aside, the front sight hood for a Browning BPR makes an excellent replacement for the MS version. Thank you for the video.
Thank you Doug - I didn't know about the hood fitting - I'll look for one for the Browning for my MS. Thank you also for the NECG info - I was just on their web site today shopping for sights - I'll look at the mounts. Finally - you have a dream rifle in .257 Roberts - superb by any measure. I used to hunt with a Rem. 760 in .257 Roberts and then the voices made me sell it. : ) No idea why I would do that. Take care my friend.
Excellent video as always sir, thank you.
Thank you!
Wonderful video about wonderful rifles cartridges!
My first rifle purchase after I became legal age was an 88 in 8x57J. Set triggers, nice stock and express sights. Ammo was hard to find locally. I lived a couple of hours away from Mashburn Arms when they were in still in business. Found out after I sold it for a profit for 150 dollars that Mashburn had Norma ammo for it.
HI James - Nice first rifle. Actually, fine rifle any time. I like the ammo story - similar things happened to me. Cheers.
Lovely rifle, great presentation.
Just a point though. It's not really a "Mannlicher" action, old Ferddy didn't have much to do with it, though he was plant manager at Steyr at the time. The man most responsible for that action and it's grampa, the 88' , was a fella named Schlegelmilch. OEW/Steyr had gotten a contract to produce the 88' and afterwards continued to offer that action in the follow on Romanian, Dutch and Greek contracts in somewhat modified forms.
F.M. was quite a capable designer, but this one just wasn't his baby.
Thank you Thomas! I'll have to read more. : ) I just go by what is marked by the factory on the receiver ring and what most people abide by. I love the idea of calling it a Schlegelmilch though. I looked up what the meaning of Schlegelmilch (just the word) is and could only find "drumstick cow" - please let me know what the practical meaning is if possible. Many thanks again.
Well, the fellas name is Louis Schlegelmilch. Quite an innovator in his own right. Went on to design, among others, one of the competitors to the Mauser 98 in those German army trials.
Quite correct.
The design did, no doubt, benefit from ol' Ferd's prior contributions to firearms design, however, and I'm sure I've read that after Herr Mannlicher died in 1904 his wife was paid royalties for the design.
The 'en bloc clip' of the Gewehr 88 was absolutely "his baby", was originally marketed as the 'Mannlicher Packet Loading System", and was the reason OEWG got that fat manufacturing contract for the 'Commission Rifle", or Gewehr 1888.
What a gem, in 264 win mag what a find. Another great video!
Another great video about some beautiful rifles!
The side mount is actually quite comforting. There are some issues with front mounts being drilled to deep in, making the chambre structrally unsound. At least the research, I did stated that. Such a sweet pull while repeating. The successor M72 is also a nice rifle, but does not come close to the pull. Also the inlay including the follower on the M72 is made of plastic.
Thank you 😊. because of this fine Channel that you have and for making me aware of the Mannlicher Schoenauer rifle i was able to locate and buy one today , a beautiful untouched 1952 in Winchester 270 with a 24” barrel ! Thanks again 👍
My goodness Johannes - that is a astounding - you must run and buy lottery tickets - you have all the luck! I would not have thought it possible. Well done and I'm glad my vids are helpful. All the best and please keep in touch!
USOG thanks again
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns He had to win a modest lottery to pay for it!
Thanks for this video Mike; a helpful intro to the Mannlicher-Schoenauer action, which I wanted to learn about, to compare with the Mauser 98 action. Re making these videos, I have a suggestion. Your video assistant is doing a great job but the camera's light meter is reacting to the brightness of the white tablecloth. The sensor's gain is reducing to compensate, which is making the detail in the dark parts of these very interesting firearms disappear. If you were to try a cloth with a more neutral colour, the details you are describing would stand out much better. The ideal solution would be a light to medium grey coloured cloth, with 18% relectance. Ha! That is - a grey card! 😃 The camera would love and understand what it's seeing and your demonstration videos would 'pop'! Thanks again and all the best.
Oh how i would love to fine one in 7x57. Have always been impressed with the workmanship on these rifles.
Hi Robert - I hope you find one - they appear from time to time. The 6.5x54 is nice too - actually any caliber - but that's just me. All the best.
I didn't even need to watch the video, just from the thumbnail I can tell that is one beautiful rifle. I am eternally jealous.
Hi Dan - I noticed a few more of these than usual coming to market - maybe estates - I hope you get one - in any caliber.
The fit and finish is impressive but I don't like the bolt being so far forward as it may mean the stock changes position in my shoulder as I reach to cycle it.
Very true. Somehow though, I don't notice it or even remember it in use. I probably don't make sense but I drive standard transmission cars as well and the automatic people say "How and why do you do that - it is so awkward!" That may be true - but I don't notice a thing - shifting is like that bolt handle. : ) Hope I'm not nuts.
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I drive a hopped up Willys 'Jeep' with four shift levers (gearshift, overdrive, twin stick transfer case) and own an M1910 Take Down MS.
If you're 'nuts' I must be stark, raving, mad!
Art in firearms design and build. Thank you for sharing sir.
As noted below,.it is a beautifully designed rifle, just nice to look at!
A gentleman's rifle. I owned Carbine, 1950's production, 308 Win. hard extracting. I traded it, to a gunsmith, for an American made rifle as repairing the extraction problem was more than I could afford. I miss having it, and I miss having it when I visit a public firing range.
A superb carbine to own. That's okay though - better to have owned and lost then to never have owned at all (Shakespeare : )
i saw one of these in 264 win mag decked out in engravings, double set triggers, and a scope go for almost $3k. makes me feel like my 1903 and 1924 were a steal for $1k each
Those were a steal - in fine condition they're all advancing in value; it is more and more difficult to find quality in anything these days - as you've observed I'm sure.
The reason the lug is split on Mauser 98 is for the ejector to go through the lug. On a Ruger m77 or winchester m70 the ejector is placed lower and they have 2 solid front lugs
Zastava lk m70 is a traditional mauser with the rear locking lug and the ejector through the front lug. Ruger and winchester got rid of the rear locking lug and use the bolt handle instead
Thank you - good to point out.
Just the sound of the smooth action 👍
It's something Mac - hard to describe. Perfection.
That Mannlicher-Schoenauer is a beautiful rifle and the shadow line cheek piece is a classy touch. I find it interesting that this particular firearm is in .264 Winchester Magnum at a time when the 7 mm Remington Magnum was taking the hunting world by storm, and now the .264 Winchester Magnum is making a comeback.
I have mentioned having a G98/40 rifle based on a Mannlicher action. This rifle is a hybrid of a Mannlicher-Schoenauer and a K98 Mauser. The main difference is that it has a box magazine instead of a rotating magazine. The machining is precise and the action is smooth.
As to whether the Mannlicher-Schoenauer is the finest bolt rifle ever designed is debatable. To have so many truly great bolt actions that allow for such debate and to have no wrong answers is a wonderful thing. My choice in this debate is the pre-64 Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .375 Holland & Holland.
Anyway, thank you for another wonderful video.
I like your choice - a towering achievement in rifles; and a universal cartridge.
Stoeger's 1958 catalog listed the 'new' Magnum MS in 6.5X68, 8X68S, and .458 Winchester Magnum. By 1961 they had added .257 Weatherby Mag, .264 Win. Mag., and .338 Win. Mag. to their offerings.
@@-oiiio-3993 I enjoy going through the old catalogs and seeing what guns were offered, and in what calibers. It is just that by 1963 the .264 Winchester Magnum had developed a negative reputation, and the 7mm Remington Magnum had truly taken the gun buying crowd in the United States by storm. So to me it would make sense for a company that is trying to sell a gun in the United States to try to capitalize on the hot new cartridge.
There is one thing that is certain in my mind, and that is there really are a lot fine bolt actions that a person can pick as the finest hunting bolt action of all time, and not be wrong.
Mi fa piacere guardare le tue recensioni. Vedo che apprezzi in modo particolare i fucili che amo di più.
Possiedo un Sauer 80 Cal 7 RM , un Mannlicher Schoenauer cal 7 x 64 , un Mauser 66 Cal 6,5 x 68 , un Blaser Kiplauf 6,5 x 57 R, un Carcano 6,5 x 52 e Sabatti express cal30-06. Faccio la caccia agli ungulati in Italia. Ciao.
Ciao! Grazie per il vostro messaggio. Hai un'ottima collezione. Il tuo Mauser 66 è particolarmente raro, ma tutti i fucili che possiedi sono di prima classe. Mi piace anche cacciare di più i cervi. Tutto il meglio per te in Italia!
Nice rifles.
Very nice review too
Felicitaciones excelente video!! Saludos desde Argentina
Thank you! All the best to you in Argentina!
I believe the 1903 MS carbine chambered in .256 was the rifle that inspired Bill Ruger to create his M77 International series.
Hi Shade - Great inspiration - those 1903 carbines handle like wands.
Great rifle and review!
Great rifle and great video ,, love the rifle and I’m going to have to get one , my wife is going to end up getting angry at both of us , you for making The videos and making me aware of such fine rifles and of course for me then searching and finding one and of course buying it, LOL. 👍😊👍
Johannes van Hoek just by her something nice
U.P. Woodtick Great advice 👍absolutely 😊
Thank you Johannes! I hope you get one soon; above all these are of great intrinsic value and serve the owner and can serve the family in many ways, as well as being investments of the useful kind : )
USOG 👍😊👍
Sweet sights on the Mauser!
I like that. Yes indeed - sweet - is the right word.
Thanks for reviewing my favorite gun!
They are a perfect favorite gun!
I just bought one marked made in Austria 1903 in 6.5x54 and find it elegant in its trimly stock and smooth bolt. I enjoy shooting open sights and find the rear flat sight more favorable to hunting vs other forms of open sights. You mentioned finding the manufacturer date and I cannot for the life of me find the reference material to give me the answer. My serial number is #199XX. Any idea the year of production or the resource to find out myself? Thanks for this and all your videos.
'Made in Austria' dates receiver to 1924 or later, changed to 'Made in Germany' with the 1938 Anschluss. Post - WW2 production resumed with Model 1950.
Pre WW2 Austrian proof dates were stamped on receiver and barrel under the wood line.
Disassemble carefully _with proper fitting (thin) drivers_ and find a number such as _xxxx.xx_ , the latter two digits being year of proof. As example, 1234.26 would indicate the 1,234th arm to be 'nitro proofed' at Vienna during 1926.
Serial numbers are of little aid in 'dating' an MS.
I loved to watch your video about guns, can you do a video tour your guns library collection.
Thanks
Hi Aarron - You bet - and thanks - also - I have books on Patreon. Happy New Year!
There's no way that rifle looks more than 55 years old! Not only has it been cherished, it looks almost unused.
Hi Mark - that's true - spotless and perfect. : )
People tend to take care of their Mannlicher Schoenauers.
@@-oiiio-3993 They should take care of all their firearms. Looked after, even an inexpensive rifle should last a lifetime.
@@markvines7308 Naturally.
Still, people tend to be more particular about the Duesenberg than the ol' flivver.
@@-oiiio-3993 That's true, and some guns are real workhorses that can't be kept in cotton wool.
Thx for sharing this very pretty tool
Frank de Haas: - 6,5 x 54r Walter Dalrymple Maitland "Karamojo Bell" was the hunter who made this caliber/rifle known w 1500 elephant kills
It's the equivalent of the 6,5x55
AND a very pretty rifle. Congrats with it
Frank de Haas is as usual the guy to go too
Yup, he mastered the head shot kill on elephants using a small caliber.
Bell did not kill 1500 elephants with a Mannlicher Schoenauer.
He documented some elephant kills (several 'brain shots') with the M1903, and on recovering spent projectiles became dissatisfied with the bullet performance (ammunition was an issue with them in their early years).
Bell did carry the little MS carbine and was very fond of it for birds, 'game getting' and 'filling the pot'.
He documented everything.
@@navigator1383 With Rigby built Mausers in .275 Rigby (7X57), Westley Richards Mausers in .318, and a much smaller number with an M1903 MS.
On recovering the MS projectiles, he became dissatisfied with the bullet's performance. Ammunition was unreliable in the early 1900s.
@@-oiiio-3993 Very interesting. From where do you have this info? If correction is needed i'd like to read it. I'm sure there would be more interesting info from that source
@@ulflyng Here's one: www.chuckhawks.com/bell_elephants.htm
Hi we have a MS 1910 .375 rimless. I don’t know much about it and Couldn’t find anything regarding it anywhere. Could you please give some insight whether to inherit it or no. If you could please make a video regarding it thank you.
What a great video, thanks for the information, wow.
Thank you Frank!
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The "butter knife" bolt handle is distinctive of the Mannlicher, but it's hard to see how comfortable it would be to work a bolt with that odd handle, especially when working it rapidly for a followup shot.
It sure looks that way PinkOld - somehow though - I didn't notice a thing; not hunting and not at the range. Maybe it is because with the Mannlicher Schoenauer in hand one's feet are not touching the ground.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns haha
It's definitely a thing of beauty, both from a mechanical and esthetic aspect, so yeah, you'd probably be levitating a bit with one.
The 'butterknife' style bolt handle was also available from Mauser on what Stoeger called the 'Number 615' in their 1939 catalog, which also had the full length 'stutzen' stock and short barrel.
I have a M1910 Take Down Model and find no difficulty at all with the handle.
The action of these rifles must be felt to be believed. The bolt nearly jumps open with a flick of the finger and slides home as if on greased ice. It's all one very fluid motion.
I use a Mannlicher Schönauer 1903/14 from my grandfather for many years as my primary weapon for roedeer and wildboar. No problem at all for a ery quick reload and a follow-up shot. ;-)
I didn’t know mannlicher made a 264 win mag. Usually ones I’ve seen are in European sporting cartridges, 270 and 30-06. Another gun I’d like to get. Great video as always
You're right - in all my travels and for all the Mannlichers I've seen (which is a lot) - this is the only one in .264.
USOG it would have to be factory unless someone went through a lot of effort to rechamber and re barrel one. I’ll have to look in some of the older shooters bibles I have. Very neat and uncommon though
USOG I just dug out the 1965 shooters bible and it is listed for chambering in the “magnum” rifle. I like having a large array of books and manuals for reference however they don’t include firearms produced for distributors
Stoeger's 1958 catalog listed the 'new' Magnum MS in 6.5X68, 8X68S, and .458 Winchester Magnum. By 1961 they had added .257 Weatherby Mag, .264 Win. Mag., and .338 Win. Mag. to their offerings.
Beautiful rifle, sir.
I love the magazine. I wish there was a way to mate a M-S magazine to a Mauser bolt. Maybe there is, and I'm just not aware of how.
Hello Robinator - That is a great idea! I can't see why not! A truly inspired idea - maybe it has been done - but I have not seen such an action.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns When I have the funds for such a project, I will ask Lars Rannstad Slang of Oslo, Norway to build me such a rifle. I would love to have it as a take-down, with barrels in 9.3x62 and 7x57. Or maybe even in .318 Westley Richards. Well, a boy can dream, can he not?
Have a great day sir, I always enjoy your videos.
Hi I have a 1966 alpine version of this in 270 with a kohl's scope decorative. I can't find much on the internet about this model I also have a spare factory barrel. Came from a deceased estate. Do you know anything about this model. BTW great channel I learn a lot every post keep them coming cheers
Hello - that is a rare and special model. I only handled Alpines - never had a chance to own one yet - with the scope and spare barrel - you have a very valuable item. I know of one Alpine in 7x64 that was in fine condition - the fellow got $2800. for it.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks for the reply. Yes I think its also unified lucky to get it. Keep up the most interesting content !!
I'm big fan of mannlicher this rifle
Wow thats a mint example that you have there...
Hard to believe I know - I keep it wrapped in swaddling clothes and attend to it regularly. Seems not to age.
That is the rifle of Riju da 😍
Fascinating .... 👍
A masterpiece!
It really is!
I wish I have one just like that.
Hi Joseph - it took me awhile to find - but they are around; this particular combination of heavier barrel and .264 Win. Mag. is a little more challenging. I hope you get one - or something like it.
Oh my that is a beatiful rifle
Thank you!
A full chapter on MS rifles in Headrick’s book: Gamefield Classics, entitled “Silk & Steel.”
Just bought a MS MCA 1961 chambered in 243 Win. Looks “as new.” $1900 out the door. 😊
Thank you for this video. I have an MCA in .30-06 that I purchased from a deceased family member's estate. It had been used for hunting in Alaska, and has a crack in the black fore-end cap, which appears to have had some kind of epoxy applied to keep it from cracking any further. Can you suggest anyone who might be able to do a proper repair job on it?
Hello - beautiful rifle - please let me know roughly where you are located.
Sir stayer mannlicher also 12 guage double barrel gun with caring of 16 guage barrel if you know about it
Please make a video on it share with us more detail
I m search on it but i have not much detail about this gun
Is it possible to make a comparisson of your Heym SR 30 and a "Steel action"(New straightpull-rifle from 2017) ?
Hi Dr. Gonzo - I would love to - and I have a Steel on order - but it is very slow to get here. When it arrives I will make the video for sure.
HI, I wonder if you could give me some info? I am looking at a rifle that I may buy that is stamped SCHOENAUER GES STEYR M1908 RIFLE 7.9X56. Do you know if this rifle would take the same ammo as the 1908 8x56 Mannlicher Schoenauer? Thanks in ad advance.
Jim.
All M1908 MS were originally chambered for the 8X56MS.
It would be prudent, however, to 'slug' the bore prior to loading in case it may have been altered.
Where is it stamped 'rifle' and '7.9X56'?
@@-oiiio-3993 It is stamped on the barrel shank just in front of the receiver. There is what looks like a phoenix stamp and then a B with a crown over it and right in front of that it is stamped 7.9 m/m 56 Then below that stamp it looks like a coat of arms and above there is an N with a crown over it. Then it is stamped( St . m . G ) and ( 12 gr ) another stamp under them right at the stock line, that is sideways that looks like an NPV or NDV?
@@JimD4570 You have Austrian, German, and British proofs (she's been around).
I am unaware of any Mannlicher or Steyr product (factory) stamped _"SCHOENAUER GES STEYR M1908 RIFLE 7.9X56."_
All MS sporting rifle and stutzen (full length carbine) receivers manufactured before mid 1926 were stamped _Oesterr. Waffenfabr. Ges-Steyr_ on the left rail, changed to _Steyr Werke AG_ in mid 1926.
The front receiver bridges of M1908 were stamped (line 1) ORIGINAL, (line 2) MANNLICHER, (line 3) SCHOENAUER, (line 4) M1908. At some point line 1 was changed to PATENT.
Steyr did not mark the pre M1924 MS with their 'kaliber'. Prototype M1900 and the early models were specific to their own MS proprietary cartridge:
M1900, M1903 - 6.5X54MS
M1905 - 9X56
M1908 - 8X56
M1910 9.5X57
The M1924 had a longer receiver and was originally chambered for the .30-'06, then continued production in a variety of chamberings with the 'KALIBER' stamped in place of 'M1924'.
The NPv is Austrian, the 'nitro' (smokeless) proof mark from Vienna.
A crown over BP or BV would be a Birmingham (England) proof mark. Crown over NP would also be a B'ham nitro proof.
The St.m.g. is German for Stahlmantelgeschoss (Steeljacketbullet), 12 g for 12 grams bullet weight.
All of your proofs seem consistent with the 8X56MS. The prudent and safe thing to do would be to have a chamber cast done just to be sure. Many have been rebored over time to accept more readily available cartridges.
@@JimD4570 If you post images of your (presuming you bought it) MS to NitroExpressForums you'll find that they have a Mannlicher specific thread with many knowledgeable members who will be glad to share information.
For disassembly be sure to use proper fitting (thin) screwdrivers.
Disassembly instructions can be found at The Mannlicher Collector's Association or on NE.
In the German pronunciation the ch is soft with a sh sound instead of a hard ch in licher.
Thank you Monty!
Beautiful rifle inside and out! The only problem they ever had was the extremely high cost!
That's true Matt - always more than one expects.
You can buy a proper Mannlicher Schönauer in Europe for aprox. € 1000,- to € 1.500,-
looking at the bolt ,has that rifle ever been fired
Hi Chris - So hard to tell - it gleams.
Hemingway short story, "The Short Happy Life of Francis McCumber." Ouch.
Thank you Roberto!
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Any chance you could get a hold of an original 1903 mannlicher in 6.5x54? to show us?
Hi Ian - I'll keep looking - would love to make a video on that classic.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns if not it's all good, keep up the good work, definitely one of my favorite firearm channels on TH-cam
07:01 - There is no such thing as a "Mannlicher Carcano".
That is an oft repeated misnomer left over from flawed reporting of the John F. Kennedy assassination.
The Carcano was neither Steyr built nor Mannlicher designed. It was designed and built as the Modelo 91 (M91), or Novatuno, by Italians Salvatore Carcano of Turin Arms and General Giacomo Paravicino of Terni Arsenal to work with the new (1890) Italian 6.35x52 cartridge.
Does anybody know where I could find a firing pin for a Steyr Mannlicher Schoenauer Model 1950?
Ebay.
what is the value of the rifle
Hi Chris - about $2500. - only because of the scarce caliber and heavier barrel.
ماهو عيار هذه البندقية
.264 Win. Mag.
Is it possible to rebarrel this Mannlicher action ?
Yes - and beforehand make sure the cartridge feeds through the rotary magazine - sometimes careful attention is needed.
I also had a friend named Santiago who owned one of these but one day two locals of his town stabbed him to death cause he slept with their sister????
Very sad...what people do.
Hi there, are you selling this rifle? If yes send me a massage please, thanks 🙏
NEVVER buy a Mannlicher Schönauer, where the front bridge was drilled or gave a cut out to take a mount. Those rifles are not reliable any more. There is only on correct way to mount the front of a scope on am Mannlicher Schönauer. It is a ring on the base of the barrel.
I'm big fan of mannlicher this rifle