Honda has consistently built the greatest touring bikes in the world paired with the worst suspension possible. These guys have made an incredible business out of correcting the situation.
Thought about trading my sport touring FJR1300 for one of these bottom riders for two years. The FJR has a 6 position continuous pre-load adjustment. 17 clicks of rebound damping and 21 clicks of compression damping for the front forks. Infinite combinations. GW has no front preload, nil or none compression or rebound damping. To me, it's unbelievable built this way.
"Sport" Tourers are configured differently that "Touring" bikes by nature. All we do is suspension, and over 15+ years of Goldwing specific suspension service, and more than 5,000 bikes upgraded, less than 6 people have asked for damping adjustable suspension for a Goldwing. There's no demand for it.
Max ...... Just picked my new 2018 Tour DCT . I was hesitant to buy knowing that there were issues with the suspension and the GPS , but went ahead with the deal after reading a lot of forum posts and watching a considerable number of videos . There were some Gold Wing riders who were saying that the upgrade would not be necessary until the bike had maybe 40 or 50 thousand miles , so I thought I would get several years of riding before ever needing to do the upgrade . WRONG ! On my first ride , after I had rode maybe 10 miles , I noticed the bike was bottoming hard in the rear shock , enough that it was jarring the crap out of my back . After about 35 miles , I stopped to check the suspension setting which was “one up” . I set it to “two up” and headed back home . I really could not tell any significant difference. The bike was bottoming hard and my back was taking a beating . For reference , I weigh 180 and 6 ft. Tall . I woke up the next morning with a sore back . I also have a 2017 Indian Springfield and have never had a problem like this . There is no doubt in my mind that this bike bottoms out hard and definitely needs different shocks and springs . I live in Texas , maybe I can get Fred Harmon to do the upgrade . Why do some riders seem to have no problems and praise the suspension , and others like myself know on there first ride that there are issues ?? I will ride my Indian until I can get the suspension updated .
It would be interesting to see a video of this same test after the Traxxion suspension upgrade....if there is one already, please point me to it. Thanks.
"The best you've ridden is the best you know of"... If you ever get a chance to test ride a bike with upgraded suspension on it, you should not pass up the chance!
Max McAllister & Traxxion Dynamics why change if you don’t have any issue and you are satisfied with the ride quality. There is always room for improvement in everything but why spend $2k-3k if you are satisfied with the ride quality with the factory suspension. Not to mention it will void the factory warranty. But I will try with your suspension when I have a chance. Thanks.
@@rayeezchowdhury7588 the Honda Goldwing is the most heavily customized and modified motorcycle in the world, owners change virtually everything on it, and it does nothing to the warranty. Changing the shocks does absolutely nothing to the warranty, you are wrong about that. If it did, we wouldn't have a business.
@@Traxxion you are probably right MAX...it will not void warranty on the other parts of the bike. i don't think Honda will provide warranty on the modified parts by others. thanks.
@@rayeezchowdhury7588 Of course Honda does warranty after market items, that's a no brainer BUT before you add parts to the bike (OEM and/or Aftermarket), check with your dealer you do business with, if infact your modification will effect your warranty in any way shape or form ? Getting the most out of your ride is what it's all about, if everyone was satisfied with stock parts, loads of companies would be out of business and the performance world would not even exist or be talked about .... That would be a pretty shitty dull world of riding ! Lol
Hi max, I am Italian. You are the greatest connoisseur of Goldwing on the web !! Will you ever do a tutorial on mounting the passenger seat back honda goldwing bagger 2018? Thanks anyway
It doesn't. But you can repeat the whole process to learn for yourself. The front has absolutely no adjustability, so not sure what you think is going to change.
Very interesting video. I was about to change from my 2016 RG CVO to the 2018 GW because the bike is a beauty and this 6 cyl. engine.... . Looks like I would not only buy limited storage but also technical problems. Not good Honda ! I wait !
I just bought a 2021 tour and the ride is smooth even going over rough stuff. I do like riding with the suspension set to two riders and luggage. Don’t know if that makes a difference.
If one is in the business of providing aftermarket products, I would imagine it would be beneficial to highlight and address issues where you could serve as the benefactor!
Hello Max,I'm from Brazil And I've seen your videos, and enjoyed working with Gold Wing , I always found this model with the very beautiful gray color, but I know that it is not complete. But I wonder if it is possible to install the comfort seat with heating, just like the one on the gold wing Tour? Thank you.
I don't think that's possible, but I would have to research. They don't have wiring or anything on the standard bike. It would cheaper to buy a tour model bike and then change the plastics and have a fully optioned bike I believe.
is it possible to mount the passenger backrest honda goldwing bagger 2018 without putting the luggage rack ?? It seems so because I saw on the net photos of GL b 2018, which had the backrest for the passenger without the luggage rack kit, but I asked you that you are a luminary of GL !!
Some people are sceptical max. After spending 27000 thousand on a motorcycle and it's new they want to believe it's good. Do you know how the stock shocks are on the 2018 Harley Davidson ultra limited? I'm going to pick one up and would like to know. I haven't seen any of your vids on it.
Just traded a road glide ultra for a Goldwing and I can tell you the gw rides much smoother than the hd. We ride two up all the time and find the gw more comfortable. The hd isn’t bad at all, rode them for years so long as your model is not lowered as in a special. Those models lose an inch of travel and don’t ride nearly as nice as a standard.
Donald Remington I have a 6m. You will notice that my original post is a year old. I have since put 18,000 miles on it so I can give you a better perspective now. I’m 68 years old and my needs may be different from yours but the 100 pound weight reduction is important for me. Going from a HD touring model in seeking a lighter bike, the alternative was a Softail which, to me is not a good bike for two up riding. The Goldwing is much more sophisticated and complex. Maintenance can be an absolute nightmare on the GW so if you do your own maintenance be aware that changing an air filter is an all day job. If you are the type that lets a dealer do your work, be prepared to pay big for routine things. Don’t think that a stock GW will fit everyone, you will probably change the seat and the bars. Storage is less than on a HD and lighting on a full dresser is better than the GW especially at the rear. Performance is better on the GW in all aspects other than carrying capacity and being affected by cross winds and big rig blow by. In that instance the HD is more planted. I live in Florida and the great reduction in heat coming off the engine and exhaust is a wonderful thing. My biggest issue with HD was the dealer network and how they handled service and warranty issues. There are many independent certified shops that can work on your HD but not so with a GW. Don’t buy into the myth that GWs don’t break. The drivetrains are bullet proof but I hear of many electrical issues that require big repair bills to fix. Honda isn’t any better than HD in honoring warranty items. Hell, if you ask Max MCalister, half the bike is inadequate and needs to be replaced! So the question might be, would I do it again? My Road King was simple, reliable and comfortable.
Hello. What years or years of Goldwing would you recommend for someone who can’t afford the 2018? Thanks in advance. I was told by a couple of policemen that they had transmission problems on some years some times after a while? They said be sure and test a used Honda before buying for transmission problems. And a comment...all that money and suspension problems? What a drag. I am about 210 with gear on, so a problem with just about any bike no matter how expensive. So far has stopped me from buying a bike? Seems that whether I get a cheap one or expensive one I will have to spend money on suspension?
Max don't you mean to say the 2010 and older wings are NOW famous for transmission problems? but it would really be 2013 and older due to the fact the 2014 and newer wings had different cut gears.
Max McAllister I agree the goldwing is not famous for transmission failure, the problem is when a failure is talked about online we have no clue as how the bike was maintained or driven. I do know that in 2014 Honda did change the cut of the gears for the better
Hi max I am in the process of buying a 2022 goldwing tour DCT will be my first goldwing ive been a long time fjr1300 rider for the past 16 yrs what would be the cost to change the goldwing suspension to traxxion I live in nc do I have to bring the bike to you or can I order the suspension and have my shop out it on I put a deposit on the goldwing in May and I still have not got the bike yet anyway let me know your thoughts on a 2022 goldwing tour DCT has the suspension changed at all
The suspension won't change until they remake the entire model which won't be before 2028 typically. Since you live so close it is definitely best to bring it to us. It's about $3000 for everything out the door. We can do any other accessories you want at the same time while the bike is apart, so don't have anything installed at the dealer! We'll just have to take things right back off. We do this work by appointment, and suspension only we can have you gone by 1pm.
Thank you so much for your reply this will be a major consideration for me one of the main reasons I am buying the goldwing is for comfort 21 yrs ago I blew out a disc in my lower back and I have nerve damage because of it I thought I was never gonna be able to ride again I had actually sold my bikes because of it the nature of my problem effected my ability to shift with my left leg it would send pain down my lower back into my left leg especially during traffic riding it took me 5 yrs to get back to riding I started with a bergman 650 then yamaha came out with the paddle shifter so I boight the FJR in 2006 and then another one in 2008 I liked it so much and now and then in 2016 I bought my first DCT in CTX700 to get familiar with it to see if I would like it that I am older the weight of the bike is making harder for me to move the bike around in parking spaces and tight spot and now that now that honda has walking mode and auto and a paddle shifter on the goldwing I believe I will be able be able to ride for yrs to come so I traded my FJR and my CTX700 DCT in on a NC750X and out deposit on a goldwing and the NC750X I like having a smaller bike for days I dont feel well its nice to still be able to get out and ride a bike that dont weigh so much so in short motorcycles saved my life to be honest and its very important to me to have comfort this is something I believe I will do is change the suspension I just have to get the dam bikes I have been waiting since May I cant believe it has taken this long so thanks again for all your videos and help and responses I hope to see you in the coming months
Bottoming is usually defined as the coil completely compressed and can't travel any further. I'm not sure that this is happening when your zip tie hits the rubber bumper. I've heard that there are preload settings for rider and rider with passenger and others. So maybe something clever is happening. Quick test. Get 2 friends over 250 lbs. and see if the coils are fully compressed when they sit on the bike. Look at the zip tie. You can even play with the preset modes. Sometimes designers are sneaky.
Clearly, you know nothing about suspension. You have no business offering baseless guidance to a globally famous authority. Literally everything you typed is wrong, and speculative.
@@camgere Point specifically to where I called you a "name". What I said is completely accurate. Everything you stated is completely wrong and false. Bottoming is NEVER defined as anything related to a spring. Bottoming is the shock absorber compressing to it available travel. A spring that is compressed fully until the coils touch is called "Coil binding". There is NO SHOCK ANYWHERE that has a spring that coil binds when the shock absorber bottoms out. PERIOD. All shocks are designed to bottom out long before the coil binds. But you didn't know that. Now you do. "You heard" there were settings for preload for riders and passengers. You heard WRONG. There is absolutely nothing that effects the spring preload on the front shock of any Goldwing. There is nothing sneaky about the terrible design of the suspension on a 2018+ Goldwing. "Quick test"??? Who do you think you are lecturing with your false information and hearsay? Like I said, if you want to try and correct me you better know what you are talking about... and it's clear you know nothing on this topic.
I just don't find this video credible. The bike is bottoming out just driving out of the driveway, but he has never felt it bottom out in thousands of miles. Obviously, a contradiction. I have bottomed out bikes over potholes and it is quite noticeable. I just have a hard time believing Honda made such a bad mistake. My Honda CB1000R doesn't bottom out in normal riding and I have also done the ziptie test. A static load test, with a heavy rider and passenger could confirm the bottoming out, but you refuse to consider it. I wonder why. @@Traxxion
@@camgere Thousands of 2018+ Goldwing owners complain about the constant bottoming and banging of the bike. What is unbelievable is that you are arguing about a bike you don't own, have never ridden, and only regurgitate internet hearsay. I am the unquestioned World's Authority on Honda Goldwing suspension. I have worked on thousands and thousands of Goldwings, and we have BILLIONS of customer miles logged on our suspension kits which have been for sale for TWENTY YEARS. You STILL don't know who you are talking to. TRY GOOGLE. PS, just to further explain that you have no idea what you are talking about, a CB1000R bottoms all the time as well, but the problem is hidden by an internal hydraulic bumper stop that makes it so the rider doesn't feel the hard mechanical hit. You should learn about suspension before you try and debate someone like me.
At 3:30 you state that this bike is a Tour model. It is in fact just the standard (non-tour) GW. I have this same bike in the silver color. The silver color bike does not come in the Tour model but you can add the Tour trunk if you purchase and install it separately. Since you have this bike in your possession can you answer a simple question about the suspension? Is there any user adjustability for the front suspension in this (manually adjusted / non-electric) model? I am talking about the way the bike sits now - before parts swaps / modifications. A guy I am talking with on Facebook seems to think that when you manually turn the pre-load adjustment knob on the rear shock that you are in fact adjusting the front suspension at the same time. The owners manual does not say anything about that happening. Can you clarify this?
Alan Roberts - It comes with heated grips (3 levels) but not a heated seat. I have no use for a heated seat - never liked them even though I live in a cold climate.
Honda has consistently built the greatest touring bikes in the world paired with the worst suspension possible. These guys have made an incredible business out of correcting the situation.
I’m just Salivating to get your suspension on my bike . It looks so incredible .
We're ready to help!
Pre 2018 GW are better in the suspension department in this instance ya! More travel in the front and more precise preload control in the rear...
Sorry.... the previous Goldwing was exactly as bad... In fact, the rear shock is the same from 2001-2025.
Thought about trading my sport touring FJR1300 for one of these bottom riders for two years. The FJR has a 6 position continuous pre-load adjustment. 17 clicks of rebound damping and 21 clicks of compression damping for the front forks. Infinite combinations. GW has no front preload, nil or none compression or rebound damping. To me, it's unbelievable built this way.
"Sport" Tourers are configured differently that "Touring" bikes by nature. All we do is suspension, and over 15+ years of Goldwing specific suspension service, and more than 5,000 bikes upgraded, less than 6 people have asked for damping adjustable suspension for a Goldwing. There's no demand for it.
Max ...... Just picked my new 2018 Tour DCT . I was hesitant to buy knowing that there were issues with the suspension and the GPS , but went ahead with the deal after reading a lot of forum posts and watching a considerable number of videos . There were some Gold Wing riders who were saying that the upgrade would not be necessary until the bike had maybe 40 or 50 thousand miles , so I thought I would get several years of riding before ever needing to do the upgrade . WRONG ! On my first ride , after I had rode maybe 10 miles , I noticed the bike was bottoming hard in the rear shock , enough that it was jarring the crap out of my back . After about 35 miles , I stopped to check the suspension setting which was “one up” . I set it to “two up” and headed back home . I really could not tell any significant difference. The bike was bottoming hard and my back was taking a beating . For reference , I weigh 180 and 6 ft. Tall . I woke up the next morning with a sore back . I also have a 2017 Indian Springfield and have never had a problem like this . There is no doubt in my mind that this bike bottoms out hard and definitely needs different shocks and springs . I live in Texas , maybe I can get Fred Harmon to do the upgrade . Why do some riders seem to have no problems and praise the suspension , and others like myself know on there first ride that there are issues ?? I will ride my Indian until I can get the suspension updated .
It would be interesting to see a video of this same test after the Traxxion suspension upgrade....if there is one already, please point me to it. Thanks.
That is a good idea.
It has been almost a year on 2018 gold wing, I haven’t experienced any issue with the suspension. Suspension from the factory is absolutely fantastic.
"The best you've ridden is the best you know of"... If you ever get a chance to test ride a bike with upgraded suspension on it, you should not pass up the chance!
Max McAllister & Traxxion Dynamics why change if you don’t have any issue and you are satisfied with the ride quality. There is always room for improvement in everything but why spend $2k-3k if you are satisfied with the ride quality with the factory suspension. Not to mention it will void the factory warranty. But I will try with your suspension when I have a chance. Thanks.
@@rayeezchowdhury7588 the Honda Goldwing is the most heavily customized and modified motorcycle in the world, owners change virtually everything on it, and it does nothing to the warranty. Changing the shocks does absolutely nothing to the warranty, you are wrong about that. If it did, we wouldn't have a business.
@@Traxxion you are probably right MAX...it will not void warranty on the other parts of the bike. i don't think Honda will provide warranty on the modified parts by others. thanks.
@@rayeezchowdhury7588 Of course Honda does warranty after market items, that's a no brainer BUT before you add parts to the bike (OEM and/or Aftermarket), check with your dealer you do business with, if infact your modification will effect your warranty in any way shape or form ? Getting the most out of your ride is what it's all about, if everyone was satisfied with stock parts, loads of companies would be out of business and the performance world would not even exist or be talked about .... That would be a pretty shitty dull world of riding ! Lol
Hi max, I am Italian. You are the greatest connoisseur of Goldwing on the web !! Will you ever do a tutorial on mounting the passenger seat back honda goldwing bagger 2018? Thanks anyway
Buongiorno Italy! I will watch for a chance to do a video on the passenger backrest, if a customer brings us one!
So which setting did you have the bike's suspension set to when doing this demonstration? Changing the setting is going to make a difference...
It doesn't. But you can repeat the whole process to learn for yourself. The front has absolutely no adjustability, so not sure what you think is going to change.
Very interesting video. I was about to change from my 2016 RG CVO to the 2018 GW because the bike is a beauty and this 6 cyl. engine.... . Looks like I would not only buy limited storage but also technical problems. Not good Honda ! I wait !
I just bought a 2021 tour and the ride is smooth even going over rough stuff. I do like riding with the suspension set to two riders and luggage. Don’t know if that makes a difference.
It does what it can there. But it's nowhere close to how good it could be. If you are ever near GA you can stop by and drive our demo bike.
If one is in the business of providing aftermarket products, I would imagine it would be beneficial to highlight and address issues where you could serve as the benefactor!
That's right.
Great video! That's all the proof I need.
Glad I could help!
Hello Max,I'm from Brazil
And I've seen your videos, and enjoyed working with Gold Wing
, I always found this model with the very beautiful gray color,
but I know that it is not complete.
But I wonder if it is possible to install the comfort seat with heating, just like the one on the gold wing Tour?
Thank you.
I don't think that's possible, but I would have to research. They don't have wiring or anything on the standard bike. It would cheaper to buy a tour model bike and then change the plastics and have a fully optioned bike I believe.
is it possible to mount the passenger backrest honda goldwing bagger 2018 without putting the luggage rack ?? It seems so because I saw on the net photos of GL b 2018, which had the backrest for the passenger without the luggage rack kit, but I asked you that you are a luminary of GL !!
Yes, you can. They are separate accessories.
I've seen your video with your suspension upgrade and I'm curious, are just the springs changeable? Keeping the original shocks.
Thanks for the information... very useful
Thanks Max. Will see you soon.
I just want to know where to get the back rests and luggage rack on the bike shown. Thanks
Some people are sceptical max. After spending 27000 thousand on a motorcycle and it's new they want to believe it's good.
Do you know how the stock shocks are on the 2018 Harley Davidson ultra limited? I'm going to pick one up and would like to know. I haven't seen any of your vids on it.
Max McAllister
Thanks Max
Rodney Barcus good video thanx for posting
Just traded a road glide ultra for a Goldwing and I can tell you the gw rides much smoother than the hd. We ride two up all the time and find the gw more comfortable. The hd isn’t bad at all, rode them for years so long as your model is not lowered as in a special. Those models lose an inch of travel and don’t ride nearly as nice as a standard.
@@frankpellegrino7448 I am a 35 year HD rider who is considering a wing. Do you have the dual clutch ? Have you had any issues ? Thanks
Donald Remington I have a 6m. You will notice that my original post is a year old. I have since put 18,000 miles on it so I can give you a better perspective now. I’m 68 years old and my needs may be different from yours but the 100 pound weight reduction is important for me. Going from a HD touring model in seeking a lighter bike, the alternative was a Softail which, to me is not a good bike for two up riding. The Goldwing is much more sophisticated and complex. Maintenance can be an absolute nightmare on the GW so if you do your own maintenance be aware that changing an air filter is an all day job. If you are the type that lets a dealer do your work, be prepared to pay big for routine things. Don’t think that a stock GW will fit everyone, you will probably change the seat and the bars. Storage is less than on a HD and lighting on a full dresser is better than the GW especially at the rear. Performance is better on the GW in all aspects other than carrying capacity and being affected by cross winds and big rig blow by. In that instance the HD is more planted. I live in Florida and the great reduction in heat coming off the engine and exhaust is a wonderful thing. My biggest issue with HD was the dealer network and how they handled service and warranty issues. There are many independent certified shops that can work on your HD but not so with a GW. Don’t buy into the myth that GWs don’t break. The drivetrains are bullet proof but I hear of many electrical issues that require big repair bills to fix. Honda isn’t any better than HD in honoring warranty items. Hell, if you ask Max MCalister, half the bike is inadequate and needs to be replaced! So the question might be, would I do it again? My Road King was simple, reliable and comfortable.
Hello. What years or years of Goldwing would you recommend for someone who can’t afford the 2018? Thanks in advance. I was told by a couple of policemen that they had transmission problems on some years some times after a while? They said be sure and test a used Honda before buying for transmission problems. And a comment...all that money and suspension problems? What a drag. I am about 210 with gear on, so a problem with just about any bike no matter how expensive. So far has stopped me from buying a bike? Seems that whether I get a cheap one or expensive one I will have to spend money on suspension?
Max McAllister Thanks for the feedback.
Max don't you mean to say the 2010 and older wings are NOW famous for transmission problems? but it would really be 2013 and older due to the fact the 2014 and newer wings had different cut gears.
Max McAllister I agree the goldwing is not famous for transmission failure, the problem is when a failure is talked about online we have no clue as how the bike was maintained or driven. I do know that in 2014 Honda did change the cut of the gears for the better
Hi max I am in the process of buying a 2022 goldwing tour DCT will be my first goldwing ive been a long time fjr1300 rider for the past 16 yrs what would be the cost to change the goldwing suspension to traxxion I live in nc do I have to bring the bike to you or can I order the suspension and have my shop out it on I put a deposit on the goldwing in May and I still have not got the bike yet anyway let me know your thoughts on a 2022 goldwing tour DCT has the suspension changed at all
The suspension won't change until they remake the entire model which won't be before 2028 typically. Since you live so close it is definitely best to bring it to us. It's about $3000 for everything out the door. We can do any other accessories you want at the same time while the bike is apart, so don't have anything installed at the dealer! We'll just have to take things right back off.
We do this work by appointment, and suspension only we can have you gone by 1pm.
I hope that quote is for front and rear suspension
@@michaelsloane1034 and tie rod.
Thank you so much for your reply this will be a major consideration for me one of the main reasons I am buying the goldwing is for comfort 21 yrs ago I blew out a disc in my lower back and I have nerve damage because of it I thought I was never gonna be able to ride again I had actually sold my bikes because of it the nature of my problem effected my ability to shift with my left leg it would send pain down my lower back into my left leg especially during traffic riding it took me 5 yrs to get back to riding I started with a bergman 650 then yamaha came out with the paddle shifter so I boight the FJR in 2006 and then another one in 2008 I liked it so much and now and then in 2016 I bought my first DCT in CTX700 to get familiar with it to see if I would like it that I am older the weight of the bike is making harder for me to move the bike around in parking spaces and tight spot and now that now that honda has walking mode and auto and a paddle shifter on the goldwing I believe I will be able be able to ride for yrs to come so I traded my FJR and my CTX700 DCT in on a NC750X and out deposit on a goldwing and the NC750X I like having a smaller bike for days I dont feel well its nice to still be able to get out and ride a bike that dont weigh so much so in short motorcycles saved my life to be honest and its very important to me to have comfort this is something I believe I will do is change the suspension I just have to get the dam bikes I have been waiting since May I cant believe it has taken this long so thanks again for all your videos and help and responses I hope to see you in the coming months
@@michaelsloane1034 see you then!
Bottoming is usually defined as the coil completely compressed and can't travel any further. I'm not sure that this is happening when your zip tie hits the rubber bumper. I've heard that there are preload settings for rider and rider with passenger and others. So maybe something clever is happening. Quick test. Get 2 friends over 250 lbs. and see if the coils are fully compressed when they sit on the bike. Look at the zip tie. You can even play with the preset modes. Sometimes designers are sneaky.
Clearly, you know nothing about suspension. You have no business offering baseless guidance to a globally famous authority.
Literally everything you typed is wrong, and speculative.
I stated reasons, all you can do is call names.@@Traxxion
@@camgere Point specifically to where I called you a "name". What I said is completely accurate. Everything you stated is completely wrong and false.
Bottoming is NEVER defined as anything related to a spring. Bottoming is the shock absorber compressing to it available travel.
A spring that is compressed fully until the coils touch is called "Coil binding".
There is NO SHOCK ANYWHERE that has a spring that coil binds when the shock absorber bottoms out. PERIOD. All shocks are designed to bottom out long before the coil binds.
But you didn't know that. Now you do.
"You heard" there were settings for preload for riders and passengers. You heard WRONG. There is absolutely nothing that effects the spring preload on the front shock of any Goldwing.
There is nothing sneaky about the terrible design of the suspension on a 2018+ Goldwing.
"Quick test"??? Who do you think you are lecturing with your false information and hearsay?
Like I said, if you want to try and correct me you better know what you are talking about... and it's clear you know nothing on this topic.
I just don't find this video credible. The bike is bottoming out just driving out of the driveway, but he has never felt it bottom out in thousands of miles. Obviously, a contradiction. I have bottomed out bikes over potholes and it is quite noticeable. I just have a hard time believing Honda made such a bad mistake. My Honda CB1000R doesn't bottom out in normal riding and I have also done the ziptie test. A static load test, with a heavy rider and passenger could confirm the bottoming out, but you refuse to consider it. I wonder why. @@Traxxion
@@camgere Thousands of 2018+ Goldwing owners complain about the constant bottoming and banging of the bike. What is unbelievable is that you are arguing about a bike you don't own, have never ridden, and only regurgitate internet hearsay. I am the unquestioned World's Authority on Honda Goldwing suspension. I have worked on thousands and thousands of Goldwings, and we have BILLIONS of customer miles logged on our suspension kits which have been for sale for TWENTY YEARS.
You STILL don't know who you are talking to.
TRY GOOGLE.
PS, just to further explain that you have no idea what you are talking about, a CB1000R bottoms all the time as well, but the problem is hidden by an internal hydraulic bumper stop that makes it so the rider doesn't feel the hard mechanical hit. You should learn about suspension before you try and debate someone like me.
if it bottoms on the driveway, what would happen when you jump or ride over curb? :)
then you should get a kawasaki klr?
there’s no you tube video of the rear passenger backrest install
It's so easy... remove the painted shelter, and then there's just 3 bolts to put the bracket on. Impossible to mess it up.
You can also download instructions with photos from Hondaline Accessories website.
@@Traxxion thanks mate
I felt it bottom out entering a parking lot at relatively low speed. Very disappointing
so basically all goldwing suspension is that foam damper, so why put electrical suspension adjustment at all... :)
Electronic gizmos sell well nowadays .
What is the cost to upgrade the suspension?
$2650 installed.
@@Traxxion Thanks MMA!
@@narmac01 you got it!
$2650 🙈 DAMN...
At 3:30 you state that this bike is a Tour model. It is in fact just the standard (non-tour) GW. I have this same bike in the silver color. The silver color bike does not come in the Tour model but you can add the Tour trunk if you purchase and install it separately.
Since you have this bike in your possession can you answer a simple question about the suspension? Is there any user adjustability for the front suspension in this (manually adjusted / non-electric) model? I am talking about the way the bike sits now - before parts swaps / modifications.
A guy I am talking with on Facebook seems to think that when you manually turn the pre-load adjustment knob on the rear shock that you are in fact adjusting the front suspension at the same time. The owners manual does not say anything about that happening. Can you clarify this?
Does standard version Come with heated grips and heated seats front and back ?
Alan Roberts - It comes with heated grips (3 levels) but not a heated seat. I have no use for a heated seat - never liked them even though I live in a cold climate.
The previous generation wing was a better bike!
Ok, I'm convinced, just what do I have to spend to get this done. I am a nerd, not able to do this myself. Where can I take it? 52001 zip code.
I thought I wanted one. Bmw made the choice easy.
No recall ! WTF??
Recall for what? It's designed that way.. For Honda, this is how it should be, obviously.
Does the shit company Honda have an explanation why they produce that kind of crap for so much money?
:)