What happened to my ARRMA Kraton 8S - The full story revealed
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Props for the honesty. That's a lot to deal with.
And this is why I have enjoyed your channel for so many years. Honest and reliable feedback. I believe this is why you have the relationship with Arrma, they trust your criticism. Great video once again👍👍
Giving arrma the opportunity to fix it, before making the problem puplic, earns a lot of respect imo. Nowadays everyone wants to make headlines, even its for the bad of other people. Everyone forgets about that there are actually humans, who assemble these cars, or construct it. Everyone can make a mistake, giving the one the opportunity to fix it, is a sign of humanity, which is sadly shown too rarely
Yes, a very respectful human being with big love for Arrma. Very professional .
Integrity. Most don't understand what it is, glad that you do. Never expected anything less from one of the world's best rc hobby reviewers.
props for being honest. we now know Vas hasn't sold out. respect mate! well done and in 1 take!
fondfarewell2 ! I didn’t notice it was 1 take but now that you mentioned it, that’s very impressive
Nice, and brutally honest review. Thank you for sharing and sticking to your guns.
I hope that Arrma is watching this video, this is the kind of video that helps customers and businesses. Truth hurts sometimes but it still better than lies that make money in the short term.
i think i got the answer for people asking about opinions on RCs : " first : no RC is unbreakable ! then : add half the price of the RC in upgrades to make it decent "
So true
Not the maxx. thing comes a beast.
@@dylanwillyams lol ok kid keep telling yourself that. Yeah it's a tough truck but it's over priced as it is for a 10th scale mt then add in the fact the 70$ for the widemaxx kit that you need before it's even driveable. More of a reason traxxas is a money hungry company. They knew the maxx preformed horrible in stock for yet released it at a crazy price then screwed their loyal customers with the widemaxx kit for 70$ that should of already been on their truck. I'd much rather spend 600$ on something else but thats my opinion. It is a tough truck tho.
@@cwatson42785 lmao you dont need shit. it drives amazing out of the box. if you wanna drive a buggy that can full throttle a corner then buy that.If you live in the dirt like me and dont drive in grass you wont even notice the "flipping problem" . Sucks you're blinded by the traxxas stigma and the price. all the rc's ive owned ive put over 300 into before they were "DRiVaBle" and the maxx is the first i havent had to do shit to make it awesome. 560 for a bullet proof 1/10 monster truck is not over priced. the proline trucks are overpriced. 400 for a set of crawling axles is over priced.
@@cwatson42785 yeah the wide kit itself is proof traxxas are milking their customers.
This is the guy videos I first saw that got me in the rc game and I purchased my first arrma granite 4x4 mega and upgraded it. Thank you for being and honest straight forward youtuber about the rc product.
Brutally honest with your experience!! Always starlight forward with you experience no matter the rig. Good on you
Much respect on your honesty, best of luck bro.
The V1 Kraton was a bomb, but running updates and improvements through to the V4 have made it the perfect basher. Let’s hope the same evolution happens with the K8S.
BigCarKilla a perfect basher that you still have to buy an aftermarket chassis, chassis braces, and a radio that works, let’s be honest, it’s not perfect. For about the cost of a Kraton 8s or Xmaxx you can have a Kraton 6s that’s a perfect basher.
Would you know the equivalent of the thickness of silicone ear plugs would be?
1000000
How can you say that the 6s arrma is a good basher you still have to buy all the aftermarket parts and labor just so you have a tank that's way to heavy. For all the money you spend you can have 2 x maxxes
I mean only if talking about skateparks and bad landings. My Kraton is bigger rush goes faster further and harder for litterly half the cost ....I haven't bent stock chassis yet I jump 30ft 10ft high but I land properly
You’re honesty is really saving them from bad reviews as those who know and don’t mind won’t complain unlike those who don’t know what to expect and get surprised by its performance. Kudos
An honest yet tempered review. You showed a lot of maturity and wisdom in your discussion of Arrma and the 8s.
Your reviews speaks volumes!! This will get the point across. I’m so happy I waited. You are the reason I brought my 8S Krayton. I hope ARRMA gets the message that no body wants a r/c lemon
this review changed my mind, I will be waiting for version II
Thanks for being real, and the update,look forward to after you run it again.
This video is a great example why i subbed so long ago and love this channel. Thanks for your honesty! Great vid and well said.
I sold mine a week after I bought it. I'm much happier with my kraton 6s v4
I am so proud of you Vas for your honesty thank you !!!!!
They had one at my hobby shop. It is really heavy. Beautiful truck.
I went for a hybrid Mojave/kraton build. Just love it.
Thank you for all the great videos.
I really appreciate your integrity. I always go to your channel for your reviews of cars I am considering to buy. Great job, love your videos!
Thank you for your honest, respectful comments & review. This is exactly whats needed.
Much respect glad to see honest reviews. On your good reviews the joy in your voice brings smiles to many ! On this review I hope Arrma is paying attention.
Probably the most honest channel out there! Great vid Vas, keep it up
Your honesty is most refreshing. Myself, and many others, appreciate it.
Wow. This must have been tough for you after such a great interview with Jason. You're a dang honest, no bs reviewer! Amazing work and ethics.
Will just keep running my losi sbr till the v3 8s comes out, keep doing what you doing vas
Thanks for the honesty. Regardless of brand, honesty is what the consumer needs as well as the company. Love your channel for this very reason, o can trust what you say 👍
Great honest review. Almost bought one. But I am glad to watch video reviews like your before spending the amount to begin with;) thank you 🙏
Same here its given me pause as Im looking to get into the hobby.
I think that this is one of the most straightforward videos that I have watched on TH-cam. I'm seriously thinking about buying one of these vehicles but I'm going to get an exb and they're very expensive
Thanks heaps Vas for honest review. Proved to me you are not a fanboy of Arrma but appreciates quality and a competent reviewer. Thank you!
Your honesty is 100% appreciated.
Very fair.
I really respect you for this review, as a number of other people looking past some of these 1st iteration issues left a bad taste in my mouth.
I look forward to seeing more of your reviews and running videos.
Finally an arena fan being honest..we appreciate you being real brother..
Damn, that review was brutal. Glad I did'n pull the trigger on one. Thanks for the honesty. You are my favorite rc channel.
Honest you tubers are rare. You handled that with diplomacy, well done mate ;)
I think this video was so needed , this car is such a let down it was amped up so much , i feel sorry for people that have brought one and are not happy thank you so much for this video
Great stuff Vas 👊!!!! So sorry you've had a rough go with the Kraton 8s 👀. Regardless of what scale they call it, I'm happy with the overall size. To my surprise, the mod 1 drivetrain has been flawless. The pinions are readily available here anyways. I agree 100% the truck is very undergeared out of the box 🤣. I too eventually bent my top brace and rear chassis. It was easy to repair, and didn't have another issue after bolstering the top brace with simple carbon fiber 14 x 12mm tubing. I also had no heat issues running with a 23T plus tuning my diffs and venting the tires, punch 5, 7.5 timing advance. I'm fairly certain ARRMA will make changes following this initial 8s release. The platform has loads of potential and handles amazing. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
Thanks Rich. Yeah, it's definitely been a rough ride so far, but I'm sure it'll get better from here. Thanks again for your comment, brother. 🤜🤛
for how expensive it is, u shouldn’t need upgrades......
@@rushgush perhaps 🤔. But rigs this size normally cost more. Regardless, this is a new release. The diffs, bulkheads, towers, and drivetrain are beefcake 👀. It's only gonna get better from here cuz ARRMA listens and acts upon end user feedback 👍
Rich Duperbash a 1600 dollar truck with underpowered electronics, and a weak chassis? it’s either too greedy for profits, or lack of serious r&d.
@@rushgush the truck lists for 899$ USD 🤔. I think they did the best they could with the stock chassis. ARRMA is still a growing company. They don't have the means to put 7075 CNC chassis's on there RTR's as I understand. The only true weak spot I've found on this brand new release/design is the top brace which can be easily bolstered for 20$. Keep that in check and the chassis does much better. People will always be critical and complain. I'd rather improve upon a design and just bash 👊. ARRMA is fully aware of what to improve upon moving forward. That's because they listen and act upon user feedback. Not many RC companies are as open-minded. 🍻
Great video. Thanks for your honesty. Says a lot.
what a legit review man, your awesome.
We appreciate the honesty Vas, thanks for the video. 👍
Well said review and explanation of your arrma, lot of good topics thanks for the great time you spent on this subject!!👍
Sat and listened right through that. That takes a lot of balls mate. Well done.
Respect honest review 👍
I am looking at getting a RC after a 2.5 year hiatus and going to get back into it with a 5th scale. This video cemented my thoughts on staying away from the Kraton 8s. I now will more than likely go with the DBXL-E 2.0 even though it's more expensive initially, once you add up the necessary upgrades that the Kraton needs the Losi is a bargain.
Appreciate your truth, one of the best traits to have is honesty... thanks for sharing!
Hi iam new in the hobby. I have the kraton 8s using the smart 5000 100c lipos . Do you recommend other battery packs for further durability? In stock settings they last for 20 minutes but when i set the esc punch setting to 4 they only hold for 10.
So what would you recommend with these new arrma versions because I was thinking of either getting the arrma 4s or 6s, or traxxas e revo or xmaxx what's your thoughts
Very good review, as always 👍
Congrats for your honest review! 👍
This Review made me Sub! 💯👏👏 Honesty! Respect!
Hi There looking for some help. I’m running a smart Dx5c with the kraton and the smart telemetry keeps dropping out randomly. Any ideas what it could be? I’m thinking the TX could be due for a firmware upgrade. Using smart lipos too
Good review, bro. I understand your reasons for waiting with this story, although I think you mentioned most of it last year already in the review/run (several time you mentioned that you thought there was some punch/power missing) and the studio tour (the story about bending and sending the car to UK) combined. So nothing unexpected and I think you already told the truth last year. But your opinion about the Scale was new to me. Didn't even know it was promoted as a 1/5th scale. I was more thinking the X-maxx/No-Scale/1/6th scale. And it was nice to hear your final conclusion about the car, though it was to be expected.
Will be interesting to see how Arrma will adress these reviews coming in. Not writing this up yet. I remember the X-Maxx's reception in the beginning. Everybody complaining about it being underpowered with the 6S. And ESC's on fire. But all resolved now and many people have it as their favorite car now. Arrma could find similar solutions to this one. Chassis. Brace. Electronics. Weight. Tuning of diffs etc. Maybe in one year the version 2 or 3 will become the favorite car of many. Let's see :-)
Just ordered a notorious to go with my 6s kraton after sitting on the fence about this kraton. Decided to wait for v2 or later to get into the king kraton because I was seeing issues with the first ones. Love my 6s kraton and know I'll love the noto. Thanks for always being honest with your viewers. We come because we know you'll give us an accurate portrayal. Keep up the awesome work!
That’s exactly why I thrust your reviews.
Thanks 🙏
It's crazy that arrma would treat a reviewer that way. The proper course of action would have been for them to pay to have the truck shipped in an expedited manner while at the same time cross shipping you a new one. It honestly sounds like they just slow rolled you while telling you not to tell people about it so they could wait until the initial hype died down. Which I guess was smart on their end because they've already sold a bunch of them before anyone was aware of the bending issues.
That's a very cynical way of looking at it. Given how much they have supported me and how many cars I've received from them over the years, I had absolutely zero issues paying to send the car back to them. In fact, the plan was for them to reimburse me for the shipping costs (they offered), but since they had to pay to get the truck out of customs, I didn't even ask for the money after that.
I don't think they "slow rolled me" at all. It was just all done in a rush, the trucks were already in the hands of distributors by the time this all happened and there simply was no other way of getting a new truck.
Have to say, it's an interesting point of view you have, but a very negative one.
@@AussieRCPlayground I suppose I could be wrong and it was just incompetence (not keeping spare review samples in stock in case a reviewer has an issue would be an indication of that) but after many years of dealing with different companies in a few different industries and seeing how they usually react when something happens that could affect their bottom line I doubt it. Maybe I am cynical but that comes from experience.
Even now what has arrma done to address the problem? I see no recall or information from them on the issue and what they are doing to take care of it. They said they figured out the problem. Ok. What was it? Was it a one off (based on other reviews and forums I don't think so) and if not what did they do to correct it before retail shipment? I'm guessing they didn't tell you because they were already aware and even if they weren't (again the incompetence option) there was nothing they could do about it before release.
Arrma chassis bending is nothing new. They just don't seem interested in actually doing what needs to be done to fix the issue.
Good job you did the right thing. You made everything work out well too. Thanks!
Thankyou for the review. If I was going to spend all that money on something this expensive then I would really appreciate honesty of the product and you've definitely provided that. At least when I buy the product i know what to expect and I also love the brand
Your opinion speaks volumes Thankyou.
Great points and honesty, I thank you for this. I kept quiet about the Kraton 8S and never ever thought I had to have one when I saw it reviewed and running. I have 4 Arrma models and love all of them, 2 are 3S and 2 are 6S and I want to add a Kraton 6S and maybe a Mojave to my collection but not a Kraton 8S and for a lot of the reasons you confirm in this update video.
Thanks for confirming my thoughts on this vehicle Vas. I was very interested and excited for this truck until I watched your first video and my thoughts exactly was definitely not true 1/5th. Your right on point as always with your critique about durability and electronics. Hopefully Arrma will not disappoint us and update the kit and keep it at the same level as all the other vehicles in the brand. Now.....after all this time I’m interested to hear your thoughts on the XMAXX. I know your love/hate for Traxxas but you can’t deny the XMAXX has something special about it. I’m sure you’ll be grinning ear-ear while driving and bashing! Can’t wait to hear your thoughts. All the best to you and keep making it happen! 👍
Thanks Chris, appreciate your comment and feedback. Glad you stopped by, haven't see you in a while, hope all is well. 😊👍
I don't think I've said this here yet, but you are 100% right on scale. The math proves it's definitely not 1/5. It's actually a tad under 1/6 scale. So, much respect earned for pointing that out. Kind of a shame that error hasn't been corrected yet by Arrma.
Best rc reviewer out there, thanks for this video mate. Arrma is a good brand and i hope they listen to your voice and make this truck even better in next version.
Very impressive review Vas. Thank you Sir.
Honest review thanks mate.
Yes great to see an 100% straight up review. All your work it great
Best RC reviewer in the business.
no words to say 🙏 that was really honest review!
It's a lemon. That is a fact. Glad I decided to wait to see what the next few versions will be like.
So refreshing to see an honest review of this car, me and my son have two 3S rigs and love them but ever since it was announced and first running videos came out for the money this was pretty underwhelming and badly flawed. Especially considering how much you rate the brand it was no doubt a tough video to make so a big thumbs up from me 👍🏻 should make your views on the Xmaxx even more interesting as your overall view of the brand couldn’t be anymore opposite!
Thanks man. I also am a fan of Arrma, I appreciate your full honest opinion. Keep it up. 🙂
The way you speak about products and the companies that build and make the various RC’s and parts is true honesty and without prejudice. Your are well respected in the hobby world and I’m sure that translates to other aspects of your life and I’m sure you excel in most anything you attempt. Thx for your insight and the hobby community looks forward to more great educational videos.
Well done!
Good review arrma dropped the ball on this one
Yet a perfect example why I turn to you Vas before spending BIG MONEY. Keep being a straight shooter and giving it to us straight as we need guys like you in this Hobby.. Great job as always !!!!!!
Great vid.
Thank you. 👍
Great video
Appreciate the transparency mate
Great honest review, Mojave is still king thoe👌🏆✨
very honest review, thank you for that
The most honest RC TH-camr out there!
Nice review Vas. Guess there is lots of room to improve on the Version 2 of this car.
Thanks for taking the time to put yourself out there with an honest overview. I agree with the general sentiment but even after spending the additional money to upgrade it I still really like it, mostly because the handling is so enjoyable for the terrain I live in. Even though I love it I'd only recommend for a dedicated mod path oriented hobbyist, not someone who wants a turn key rtr.
Between the 1/5 EXB and the RTR is there any difference in chassis components or are they equally alike ?
And thanks for a good and honest review
Cheers
Good review!
Quite happy to see you calling a spade a space Vas, even though it clearly wasn't what you wanted to be doing. Highest quality RC content out there mate
Your honesty is appreciated. I considered buying a Kraton 8s but when I compared it to the Losi DBXL-E 2.0 the choice was easy. The Losi came with a true 1/5 scale motor (8mm shaft) I'm sure the next Kraton 8s will be on point...
Looking forward to the honest traxxas review now !I'd say it'll probably perform better 🤔be good to see what happens mate
Juicy story. You handled it well bravo
I'm really considering a Mojave, seems you rate that one very high. Glad to hear it.
Might take a look into the Losi Super Baja Rey, it's pretty tough
@@adamwaldram6839 Both excellent machines, tough choice.
I admire your honesty as i know you really do rate Arrma normally. It is so true what you said as so many other people have had the same issues. I think Arrma really need to think this one over.
oØF this hurt them! This saddens me😪😭!
I really wanted to pull the trigger on one of these! 😂😂
Thank you my friend, you have unequivocally saved me inevitable disappointment!
Arrma is lucky to have you. Someone that is honest. And not just a Yes Man. Great video and arrma is definitely still on top for me.
Are u going get any those corally kronos or dementor? I see alot folks having same issues with that company with 1/8 scale and there supposed to be competing against arrma and most there dementor truck got issues. But heard bunch having issues with there servos with corally trucks
I have the Python buggy and will be doing the unboxing soon. 😉
I dont have that car but I was already on your side with the k8s. I had just bought K6s v4 roller and customized/upgraded it to what I wanted. Your review actually helped me know what needed upgrading. In total spent about $900 us. It's a beast, btw. Then I heard they were coming out with an 8s for about that price and thought, "dang! I could have gotten the 8s instead if I had just waited!" Then I saw your running video of the 8s and immediately knew I had spent my money on the right thing. Underwhelming is perfect word. And to find out it's not even very durable! Love arrma cars, but they have some work to do on the 8s. Thanks for your honesty and great rc videos.
A lot of honest answer answered thanks for the video
Are you going to show us the original bash video that caused the chassis to bend?
I can't seem to find it in your video's!?
Thanks.
The link is in the video description. 😉
Hi there. New to scene, and huge arrma fan. Mainly because they are the most affordable vehicles for my budget... You are definitely the person I watch the most unboxing and running videos... And I think you are spot on with everything you have said. Thanks for a great review, and because of your videos I have purchased vehicles from Banggood and all over
Hi Vas, thank you very much for a very honest review on the Kraton 8s, I share the very same as you , I have said the same things from the start, Rich from London .