Running starts at 9:23 Time to upgrade the Kraton 8s. Castle Creations Mamba Monster X 8s ESC Castle Creations 800kv Motor Power HD 65KG Servo PPS Motor Mount Sage 43T Pinion
After running the same gearing and KV setups I will probably stay with the 39T limitless spool as the 45T would get really hot if I was running hard or trying to top out. However even if it was over 100 F outside already, I was surprised how well it handled the 45T. Using the spool I didn't feel like the loss of speed from dropping several teeth was enough that I really noticed. I have since stopped worrying about power and more about strength, I want to hit the 100 club. 100mph and 100ft jump, maybe in the future I will even do it with the same car LOL! Thanks for posting!
Oh since you just said this in your video. Yeah, get some ear plugs, I did and im never looking back. If you wanna MAD Science it because your broke or bored you can take a blow torch and very SLOWLYISH... lol... start heating up the diff so the silicon already in it, after most of the moisture evaporates, will solidify and you'll have a very similar substance in viscosity and the only difference I found was the ear plugs have a sticky tack feeling and start hard then loosen up after being run while the dried diff fluid has a very consistent feel the entire time after a short warm up.
My temps haven't gone over 120F with the 43t. Now it is Fall here so when I was out it was only 22C. I won't know now till next summer if I can keep the 43t on.
@@MrCovain apologies for not understanding you question and feel free to elaborate if I answer it inappropriately. From Arrma as it is the original "Spool", not Spur, that comes with the limitless along with a 29T "Speed Spool". Both gears have an 8mm bore and accept a locking pin through the center. I tested running each of these as pinions on the 8s Kraton with good results depending on the goals and demand. Hopefully this helps and wasn't too much rambling. ~ FBRC ~
@@fastnbashrc1630 no, not at all. So what are you running for your spur? Sorry for not understanding you. I have been trying to find a 39T or 35t spur gear or will any pinion gear (the right size of course) serve as a spur? The spur seems to have the D shape and therefore wouldn't need a set screw to hold it like a pinion does
I would like to buy a Castle system for the power. That being said bought a couple of Caslte ESCs and have had very bad experiences. I've had Max 8, Max 6 and Max 5 in my Rustler VXL with no problem. So for safety I would stick with Hobbywing. Love their performance but I don't want to be worrying everytime I use my ESC if it would work.
Nice set-up Jason I run the HW system at this time but may be i will change for a Castle system after winter that is comming too fast, I'm Canadian also 😉Question for you man, what is the cooling fan on your motor? is it the castle one ? or is it the SkyRc ? and is it realy cool down the motor ?
Perfect timing on this video. I just finished experimenting with the motors that I have and I will be needing something 🤔 I wonder how that system would preform with stock tires. I would think you would cut some weight that way, I wonder if it would bring the wheelies back. How did you like the power HD servo? I love it, it works really well on my K8S. If you haven't already, crank it up to 8.4 💪
Great Lakes RC I put the duratrax back on it to give them a try. I also had the bigger 7500mah in there. Going to run the 5000s next time I’m out. Yeah I like the servo. But the stock one on 8.4 wasn’t bad.
Jason how did this power hobby servo hold up? I’m about to replace my stock servo on my k8s and was looking at those along with a few other cheaper options.
Hi i need some advice. I don't know if it a first but my motor's shaft just broke perhaps a small rock jammed I don't know. I saw that its not replaceable and i will have to change motor. So do you suggest to go for that upgrade 800kv or it should be best to buy again the OEM? Note that i don't want to change ESC or SERVO for keeping cost as low as possible.
How those badlands the best so far for speed like 80 plus mph? My beefed up kraton 8s im having hard time finding the right tires that dont balloon alot.
I recently got a kraton 8s and I wanted to change the servo for better response and speed what pinion and servo would you recommend for about 80-140.00 range
Hi friend. What do you think would happen if instead of 800KV motor I use 1100kv or 1200kv castle motor ? What would be different? Top speed? Torque? Or your thoughts.
i install the same setup but the reverse is faster then foward and when i applie the break slow it stops real quick and kicks in reverse quick any thoughts to it?
You mentioned that the 1100kv combination would be the sweet spot for this truck . What would be the difference between the 800kv and the 1100kv . And is there a really big difference of stock to warrant up grade
So when you guys say silicone ear plugs do you actually mean silicone ear plugs that go into your ears??? Lol seams strange. I just purchased a 8s Kraton.
I’m fairly new to electric rc. Used to run nitro. I’m struggling to understand the kv ratings. So just a quick question. What is the difference between the 800kv that you fitted, and the 1100kv that as been suggested? Cheers
@@DaveK155 1100 rpm per volt. So for 30 volts the motor will spin at 33,000 rpm. For a 800 kV motor at 30 volts will spin at 24,000 rpm (but at higher torque for similar motor size).
@@MrCovain I ended up with the 1100kv motor and 35/47 gearing. I would recommend that if you still don't have the 800kv. You hit top speeds way faster. No issues so far for me. And better battery life too. I got it off Ebay. The 35t I bought it from Saga Customs. Great pinions for the price
@@MrCovain How long battery life do you get? I get around 15 minutes with that 35/47 gearing 1100kv motor and 5500mAh batteries. Yeah these giant motors are battery hogs. 15 minutes is considered "normal". I saw someone running 40/47 gearing on their K8S and they were happy with that ratio. I tried 39/39 gearing when I had the 800kv motor. It was OK, but I prefer the 1100kv motors since they don't need very tall gearing to get things going. And it feels faster, since you get to 55pmh on grass/dirt quicker than the 800kv one.
He is getting the speed- nobody wants to keep flipping it over. I have this exact truck and setup and an xmaxx with the same setup and you need the tall gears
I would never leave that workshop that looks so nice 👏
Nice. I'm still waiting 30 days later for this combo 😩 can't wait. It's going to be great hauling the kids around on the sleigh this winter.
Man that thing look like its running smooth. Nice video great upgrades!!!
I'm really tempted to get this truck. Damn
After running the same gearing and KV setups I will probably stay with the 39T limitless spool as the 45T would get really hot if I was running hard or trying to top out. However even if it was over 100 F outside already, I was surprised how well it handled the 45T. Using the spool I didn't feel like the loss of speed from dropping several teeth was enough that I really noticed. I have since stopped worrying about power and more about strength, I want to hit the 100 club. 100mph and 100ft jump, maybe in the future I will even do it with the same car LOL!
Thanks for posting!
Oh since you just said this in your video. Yeah, get some ear plugs, I did and im never looking back. If you wanna MAD Science it because your broke or bored you can take a blow torch and very SLOWLYISH... lol... start heating up the diff so the silicon already in it, after most of the moisture evaporates, will solidify and you'll have a very similar substance in viscosity and the only difference I found was the ear plugs have a sticky tack feeling and start hard then loosen up after being run while the dried diff fluid has a very consistent feel the entire time after a short warm up.
My temps haven't gone over 120F with the 43t. Now it is Fall here so when I was out it was only 22C. I won't know now till next summer if I can keep the 43t on.
Where did you get the 39T spur?
@@MrCovain apologies for not understanding you question and feel free to elaborate if I answer it inappropriately. From Arrma as it is the original "Spool", not Spur, that comes with the limitless along with a 29T "Speed Spool". Both gears have an 8mm bore and accept a locking pin through the center. I tested running each of these as pinions on the 8s Kraton with good results depending on the goals and demand.
Hopefully this helps and wasn't too much rambling.
~ FBRC ~
@@fastnbashrc1630 no, not at all. So what are you running for your spur? Sorry for not understanding you. I have been trying to find a 39T or 35t spur gear or will any pinion gear (the right size of course) serve as a spur? The spur seems to have the D shape and therefore wouldn't need a set screw to hold it like a pinion does
This kraton definitely needed this out the box... Nice upgrade Jason 🍻
Was it slow or something ?
Looks great 👍
Beast🔥
How's your servo (Power HD 65KG Servo) holding up? Still a good choice for ya? Thinking about investing in one!
awesome
I would like to buy a Castle system for the power. That being said bought a couple of Caslte ESCs and have had very bad experiences. I've had Max 8, Max 6 and Max 5 in my Rustler VXL with no problem. So for safety I would stick with Hobbywing. Love their performance but I don't want to be worrying everytime I use my ESC if it would work.
I see those wheels on a lot of videos. I like them but haven’t found them yet
Dang, the side by side motor comparison is like going from a small block to a big block Chevy..
Wish they would make the kraton 8s as a roller
coming beginning 2021 1/5 scale kraton exb 🤐
where did you get the front bumper, good sir? looks amazing
Xmaxx :)
Nice set-up Jason I run the HW system at this time but may be i will change for a Castle system after winter that is comming too fast, I'm Canadian also 😉Question for you man, what is the cooling fan on your motor? is it the castle one ? or is it the SkyRc ? and is it realy cool down the motor ?
It’s a skyrc set up. But powerhobby makes the exact same. I’m ordering new fans for it though as the stock ones break.
@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs Thank you mon ami 😁
#59👍.... Great install and on point. Nice video
Are the gens ace batteries I saw in this video really good? I was thinking about getting them for my xMaxx
This spektrum servo is most likely rebranded savox servo so probably 40kg and capable of 7.4v
Perfect timing on this video. I just finished experimenting with the motors that I have and I will be needing something 🤔 I wonder how that system would preform with stock tires. I would think you would cut some weight that way, I wonder if it would bring the wheelies back. How did you like the power HD servo? I love it, it works really well on my K8S. If you haven't already, crank it up to 8.4 💪
Great Lakes RC I put the duratrax back on it to give them a try. I also had the bigger 7500mah in there. Going to run the 5000s next time I’m out. Yeah I like the servo. But the stock one on 8.4 wasn’t bad.
Jason how did this power hobby servo hold up? I’m about to replace my stock servo on my k8s and was looking at those along with a few other cheaper options.
Still going strong. I now have another one in my Losi 5ive b for the brake.
Gonna pick one up nice video bro new sub
Hi i need some advice. I don't know if it a first but my motor's shaft just broke perhaps a small rock jammed I don't know. I saw that its not replaceable and i will have to change motor. So do you suggest to go for that upgrade 800kv or it should be best to buy again the OEM? Note that i don't want to change ESC or SERVO for keeping cost as low as possible.
the car is wonderfully amazing but now you have to work on chassis slap :)
What battery’s do you use and what charger also maybe some links just bought my Kraton… and it’s lacking lol
I went with the 1100&XLX2
HOW'S THIS holding up for ya
Do the stock ec5 connectors fit onto that new combo with bullets or is soldering required? Sorry if that is a silly question.
What size is your spur gear?
How those badlands the best so far for speed like 80 plus mph? My beefed up kraton 8s im having hard time finding the right tires that dont balloon alot.
I prefer the belted duratrax the most. Prolines are good but heavy.
I recently got a kraton 8s and I wanted to change the servo for better response and speed what pinion and servo would you recommend for about 80-140.00 range
So what is the pros and cons of that system of 800kv and 1100? Thanks
Hi friend. What do you think would happen if instead of 800KV motor I use 1100kv or 1200kv castle motor ? What would be different? Top speed? Torque? Or your thoughts.
You would need a bigger pinion for 800kv and it would get a lot hotter. However it will have more torque per revolution
@@anthonythompson12 so very late reply.
@@edwincordero8 Better late than never....
Good video!!!!!😊😊
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How’s this combo holding up or did you switch it out and why
I have the same motor 2028 I am having trouble getting pinion tooth mesh with spur can you tell me where to buy pinion gear thanks
Do you still can make wheelie whit the 43t??
i install the same setup but the reverse is faster then foward and when i applie the break slow it stops real quick and kicks in reverse quick any thoughts to it?
Found out its a switch on the transmitter and reversing the blue n yellow cables
What do you recommend it for me a opinion gear for stock ?
My beefed up kraton 8s with 20 million in center makes that whistling noise too. Is that normal?
How was there servo ? You still use the same servo ? Nice video 👍
I'm still using it with no issues. Not super powerful. But better than stock.
Any new gearing combos lately tested? I have identical setup on exb
R u using stock spur?
How did you bypass the AVC? Can't get mine to calibrate.
You mentioned that the 1100kv combination would be the sweet spot for this truck . What would be the difference between the 800kv and the 1100kv . And is there a really big difference of stock to warrant up grade
He will get more top end speed with the 1100kv over the 800kv motor. Max rpm = voltage X kv
Do u still get wheelies with that gearing
How this servo power HD hold they last??
What battery your using?
Hello, is there any reason you chose the 800Kv over the 1100? I’m looking to upgrade my kraton as well.
At the time, Castle didn't have the 1100kv combo out. I would go with the 1100kv if I was doing today.
Where you get those tires
What front bumper is that on the truck? Nice vid btw
Xmaxx
Do you have a link for the tires and beadlocks?
Did you say 800kv is a big motor for this truck?
Yeah. 1100KV would be a sweet spot.
where did you get the tires and wheels
What front bumper do you have on the kraton? I like it and I've been looking for a slightly bigger one than it comes with.
Xmaxx.
@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs cool, thank you.
that servo is only $40. do you stand by it?
Whats tge difference between this nad tge stock esc and motor
Can you keep the stock spur gear
How many teeth are on that servo?
So when you guys say silicone ear plugs do you actually mean silicone ear plugs that go into your ears??? Lol seams strange. I just purchased a 8s Kraton.
Yes. That is exactly what we mean. :)
@@JasonPerrinRCVlogs crazy haha thanks for the response
What is your run time?
His oh God at 12:20 with funny he sounds like he shit a little
Wouldn’t the Castle 2028 1100kV motor be a better match?
I’m fairly new to electric rc. Used to run nitro.
I’m struggling to understand the kv ratings.
So just a quick question. What is the difference between the 800kv that you fitted, and the 1100kv that as been suggested?
Cheers
@@DaveK155 1100 rpm per volt. So for 30 volts the motor will spin at 33,000 rpm. For a 800 kV motor at 30 volts will spin at 24,000 rpm (but at higher torque for similar motor size).
@@mesodan nice one. Thanks for the explanation 👍🏻
How is that esc holding up? I went with the XLX2 and 800kv motor for my Outcast 8s. 39/39 gearing will be my ratio. Thanks.
Where did you get your 39T spur? I wanna go 35t
@@MrCovain I ended up with the 1100kv motor and 35/47 gearing. I would recommend that if you still don't have the 800kv. You hit top speeds way faster. No issues so far for me. And better battery life too. I got it off Ebay. The 35t I bought it from Saga Customs. Great pinions for the price
I already have the 800kv. Battery life sucks and trying to get my gearing right. Currently running stock spur at 35t pinion. Any recommendations?
@@MrCovain How long battery life do you get? I get around 15 minutes with that 35/47 gearing 1100kv motor and 5500mAh batteries. Yeah these giant motors are battery hogs. 15 minutes is considered "normal". I saw someone running 40/47 gearing on their K8S and they were happy with that ratio. I tried 39/39 gearing when I had the 800kv motor. It was OK, but I prefer the 1100kv motors since they don't need very tall gearing to get things going. And it feels faster, since you get to 55pmh on grass/dirt quicker than the 800kv one.
@@joseCalderon1976 I was just looking for the 1100kv so I could sell my 800kv. I just found a 40t and a 44t pinion in thinking about purchasing
A smaller pinion will give you those wheelies in spades.
How are you today
12:20 “Oh God” good save lol
What battery and run time you get with that setup I'm looking to upgrade
I was wondering the same thing. I just upgraded mine and starting to regret it. 800kv and xlx2, 35T pinion and I'm getting maybe 12 mins. Pissed.
And still not fast to me
Spur. Not pinion
You don't have that much torque you losing it with the tall gears
He is getting the speed- nobody wants to keep flipping it over. I have this exact truck and setup and an xmaxx with the same setup and you need the tall gears
That speed control sucks
and now we watch that thing go BOOM as it got castle cremations inside.
My is doing fine after like a month and at least 8 runs. Not all of them are blowing up.
Now that's just some negative stuff to say smh, why would you wish that on that man?