UPDATED: Moza R3 and Fanatec CSL R2R Bundles are $400 and for PC are MILES better than anything I mentioned here. Haven't used either personally but direct drive is the sauce and that's what you want to get into for PC if possible. For Xbox, the R3 is also compatible - the wheels in this video are still "good" just shop for them very discounted from their listed prices.
@@raylmaooo Can't say for certain as I haven't used either personally. I've used Moza's R5 and really like it, and Fanatec seems to be on a stretch of customer service issues, but also Fanatec is stronger and might be acquired by Corsair which I think will be a good thing. I'd just recommend looking up reviews for both and going from there.
£400 isn't budget lol it's a week's wages for most people . Start with a Logitech once you've driven it fast as you possibly can then upgrade if you need it
@@wheresmylplate1965 I’m not really saying it is - I’m saying if you’re spending $250 already, maybe even $300, you can get ALOT more for just another $100 and if you’re serious about getting into things and wanting a super crispy experience consider these other options vs getting a Logitech first then maybe just a short time later getting a R3 and now you’ve spend almost $700. If someone isn’t in a position to go for $400 like I wasn’t when I got my G920 then those other options are always there.
@@SMSmotorsportsyea but he said "on the first month" so add like 4 months to that and you havea about 8 thousand or add 1 month and you already have 4k. You can buy an actual car for that money not racing car but still a car
make sure if you plan to drive manual or use nicer pedals buy the T150 pro, as that comes with 3 high quality pedals as opposed to the normal T150 which has two pedals
@@NefariousIndividual ye thats true. I tested t150 pro and you right, the pedals were the best thing out of it. Similar to T-GT/T-GT 2 pedals where wheel is uncomparasible. So ye, good point, still not worth to buy t150 especially if you thinking about drifting :D
@@petebyelack6322 id say the T150 is a better drift wheel than the G29 because its rounded and the belt system is slightly smoother than logitechs gear system, but for anything else the T150 falls short compared to the G920/29/923 , T248 and T300
@@NefariousIndividual nah bro, t150 isn't smooth at all and the speed of wheelspin/wheelcounter in t150 is tragic. I have one in stock till today and bro Logi with good LUT is much better than t150. T300 is another league of both so not even worth mention it in this battle of Logi vs t150, but honest opinion t150 loose battle with any kind of logi g wheel.
no definitely don't buy one of those for your first sim wheel cus if u dont like it your gonna waste your money just get a g920 or 29 they're perfect for beginners and not to expensive
The logitech g920 is a fantastic wheel for first time sim drivers, its fairly cheap in conparison to the other good quality racing wheels and will last you until you feel like upgrading for sure! I'm coming from the perspective of someone who knows driving techniques and has only used them on sim racing, ngl I've never actually driven a manual gearbox irl and this is actually what got me into cars +anime and f&f (yee, but they do have some cool cars in there imo 🤷🏻♂️)
I bought the Thrustmaster T248 for around 360 euros. It includes the racing wheel and 3 pedals. The brake pedal has 2 springs, the black spring and the Grey one. The grey spring is the default and provides decent resistance, the black one has twice the resistance.The wheel has 3,5 NM of torque, 900° of rotation and the world's loudest paddle shifters on the back. It's a great wheel for its price.
@@free-hw9bk Is it worth the price? I'm thinking of buying a used T248x with pedals. The owner says it shows signs of being used (probably slight damage) but it would cost me 256 euros. Please tell me more about it, and help me decide if I should get it or get something else (the only other option is logitech).
@@igorgmd For 256 Buck use is quite a good deal, but if you search more or have 30€ more you can find some brand new one, i have to ask you what hardware do you use beacause there is PS4/PS5 and Xbox one/Xbox X and S model (both compatible on Pc)
@Flintandsteel definitely worth it. I just got my first ever wheel, the G923 and i love it. I was slower than when i used controller but after a week with the wheel I've past the pace of when i was on contoller
I went from a Thrustmaster TX straight to a Fanatec DD2. It's a GIANT price gap. The TX setup was probably $500-$600 at the time with the triple pedals, alcantara wheel, and shifter. Then the rig it was on was like $300. Just the DD2 base alone was $1500. My current rig probably costs around (with the ultra wide monitor) $5000. Right now is the time to buy (as of 11/20/23) Fanatec is selling everything for dirt cheap. That DD2 is 1/2 off and so are the V3 pedals (with damper/brake kits)
That’s nice I just two months in n first one was 3000 sold it for 1k then got another for 6k then gave it to my cousin n the one I have now is 15k n thinking of getting a 50k. next month they are addicting lol cheers budd
Mine lasted 1 month (yes with daily intense usage), the PSU had a burnt smell and… less ffb since it happened. I will send it back and go with Fanatec this time
Honest opinion: get the one that's in your budget and make sure you have free returns in case you don't like it. If you like it, you can continue from there - but you don't want to spend $1k on a week and pedal setup just to realize it's not really your thing
I just got my first wheel yesterday and I have to say it’s EXTREMELY addicting. I even got a really good deal on my T-GT for $300 and I have to say, it’s worth way more than what I paid for.
I honestly like the thrustmaster tx has a few issues if u use it for years like me but theres workarounds and overall smoother ffb than all the wheels mentioned in this video. Ive spent 1,200 usd on my sim setup help i need a life.
I’ve had my tmx going on 5 or 6 years. The only problem I ever had is the plastic clamp breaking, but thrustmaster has sent me a new one free three times. Awesome first wheel 👍🏻
When l got into sim racing l played on keyboard for like 80 to 100 hours. And knew l loved it. So l just bought a dd wheel as my first wheel and l love it
Smart man! Then you can think of adding onto that in the future vs upgrading something you already have. If you don’t have a rig yet, I would consider something super solid that is overkill for your current equipment. So that when you do upgrade to a stronger wheelbase in the future, you know your rig will be able to handle the forces the new base outputs.
I have, just save up for the Logitech or Thrustmaster. After 5 months of use the gears for the forceback made weird noises. Setup is way harder too. Not worth it, save up for the Logitech or Thrustmaster.
Steer very far away from Logitech Wheels because they don't have enough force feedback. I know because I've owned basically all of them I'd go straight to a Thrustmaster t300 or a Thrustmaster t300 RS it's pretty good
my recommendation is the thrustmaster t wheel bases, they are a bit more expensive, however the bases are compatible with pc and either playstation or x box depending on witch one you buy and have a quick release feature that will allow you to use a handful of different wheels on the base depending on what type of car your driving
I straight up went with the moza r5, coming from a Thrustmaster Ferrari GT experience 3-in-1 wheel ^^ I’m sooo hyped for it to arrive the next few days !
For everyone. As much as people recommend logitech, I tried a g29, i had a t150, a t300rs and now a simagic dd. I WOULD 100% BUY THE T300RS if i would get into simracing again as first purchase. Powerful enough, and it feel very natural. Not a promotion l, just a general advice.
hori ps3 wheel is 20 - 50 dollars and its pretty good to start out with except the suction cups are a little bad but you can clamp the wheel down or use tape
PxN is comin up too with their V10 Force Feedback wheel. I personally think it has nicer pedals and clutch compared to the logitech g29/920, and the wheel itself on par. My only complaint so far is lack of software and drivers.
i Bought a Thrustmaster t300rs with good pedals for i think 200€ used, upgraded it for 70€ with a 350mm wheel and a 3d printed part to adapt real weels to it, its really good
Just picked up a g29 wheel, pedals and shifter along with a "seat-rig" to set it all up. And i got it all for only 150, been testing it, ands its amazing
I am a firm believer in buy cheap, buy twice. So I decided to get the fanatec csl DD with the Clubsport v2 Pedals and their shifter. I also went with a sim labs cockpit and took a bucket seat out of my track car. Yes I spent a fair amount of money but in the 3 years I’ve had it all I haven’t had to upgrade or spend anymore money at all, and am not looking to upgrade. Absolutely zero regrets.
That sounds amazing - buying cheap is definitely tricky, I do think sim stuff has good resale value, and doing something like a direct drive setup does get you a wildly better experience over a G920 or something which end up putting you off from the hobby if you think that;s what they all feel like.
As someone who started with a g920, I can confidently say that you should go Thrustmaster for sure. Switched about a year ago because I felt stuck with Logitech but having a Thrustmaster means I can swap wheel rims, pedals, shifters and I can just keep upgrading things. If you think you won't want to upgrade your wheel, you're wrong because it is ADDICTIVE.
I got my G29 with shifter for £190 new, and put together my rig about a month after for £130, it's basic but it works, and about a month after that I picked up a cheap VR headset. Been way more fun than any other gaming apart from tactical SIM games
I’m on the thrustmaster side of things Because especially if you’re on console, you can upgrade more Like starting off with the T3PA pedals you can go to a loadcell pedals LCM or just a better spring set up with the T3PM pedals or you can have a cheap h shifter or a metal better shifter Or a handbrake/ sequential shifter, thrust master has no end to their wheel based from the cheap tmx all the way to a few direct drive set ups
Of you can afford it, wait until Black Friday and try to pick up a Fanatec CSL DD bundle since that is probably the best value mid range wheel on the market so you wouldn't likely be wanting an upgrade for quite some time.
After using the TMX for 4 years I just recently upgraded to the moza R5. What I can say is the TMX was amazing and never gave me a single problem. The only notable things I can say about it is that over time the belts and gears get super loud, my D-Pad was loose when I got it (always worked no problems) and the force feedback is bare minimum compared to other wheels. However for $200 it was absolutely amazing for the time I had it. Moving on now, the Moza R5 is an absolute game changer. Way more force feedback, way quieter, way smoother, is way more responsive. Much better obviously. Long story short what I’m trying to say is I think it is 110% worth save the extra money and getting a Direct Drive wheel. Moza is even making a new R3 which would be the perfect beginning wheel.
Get a used thrustmaster t300rs gr or tx, theyre relatively inexpensive now and are honestly all you need (good force and smooth operstion due to it veing belt driven + console compatibility).Or look at lower end direct drive options from fanatec or moza. There are also other brands that have good bundle prices like cammus and pxn.
are the pedals load or have you just not cleaned and lubed them. the previous gen pedals the t3pa would make noise after a week but ounce you put good grase in them thay never make noise after.
Found a TMX new in box for $150 a few years ago on marketplace. Been using it ever since, never had any issues. Would be nice to have the shifty boy add on but I would have to get the different pedal plate so I have the clutch.. also the paddle shifters on the TMX aren’t bad. Have a nice solid click, aren’t hard to pull and are made of metal so they feel good and much less prone to breaking compared to plastic paddles. Force feedback is enough to make you second guess simulation steering but if you want to have your thumb snapped off when you hit a wall, be my guest.
I started with the TM T248 for around 300 usd, It was such a good feeling the force feedback but unfortunately it was the worst purchase cause only last 3 days due to a very common problem I saw on internet.
Trust me you can be competitive on a G920, I myself have entered many competitions with it and even made money with it. If you want to be competitive with some immersion it's great.
My first, and current wheel is a Thrustmaster t128, which I bought nearly 4 months ago. It is obviously not be best, but it serves it's purpose. I'm actually planning to buy an add on shifter in the near future. It's great for casual gaming.
The fanatec csl dd bundle gives a direct drive wheel and pedals, for only $400. You can later upgrade the wheelbase with a powersupply so you can go from 5 to 8 nm
started off with a t80 on my ps4 eventually got a t150 pro and a pc then upgraded to a t300rs and just sold that wheel today and ordered my fanatec csl dd 8nm with the bmw clubsport gt2 wheel came a long way in sim wheels and cant wait to get my fanatec wheel
G920 works great for me and its not noisy like i thought it was gonna be from what i saw on the internet before i bought it its nice and smooth with a couple setting tweaks
The G920 is a good simulation wheel. You may have to adjust the force feedback and other settings to your liking to get the best experience you want. It’s also a very sturdy wheel as well. I accidentally dropped it once when I was trying to fix my setup and the wheel still felt the same.
Moza R3 or R5. Those are the two I’d look at. Moza is fast building up their ecosystem, so those are a cheap option for direct drive and there is plenty of room with them to upgrade.
What i've noticed is that when you get a pc for gaming, you will fall into these rabbit hole for a community that you like (At least from me and my friends experience). For example, the mechanical kb community where no matter how many kb you build, you convince yourself that you can build a better sounding one or a better aesthetic build. Same goes for even the pc building, racing sim and even gaming mice. And you know what? Go for it, if its fun for you then do it, spend money on them if you have it and just be happy with the things you bought for your hobby.
@@NPCLiam bro can u help me out I am a beginner and want some help to buy the things which is best for racing sim coz I am new one and I love cars so I want a good experience of racing and to drive cars so can u tell me according to my needs.. my needs are I want a Logitech steering wheel pedals shifters and a handbrake to enjoy drifting also and the handbrake is best for performance and experience and it is compatible with Logitech and a wheel stand that have pre drilled bracket for mounting shifter and handbrake together and for any handbrake compatible with Logitech plz reply as soon as I want your help and thanks for your help and for your precious time in advance I hope u can feel my excitement and for the feeling as a beginner or a lover of cars and racing... Thnx bro..
I brought a Thrustmaster T80 (Ferrari 488 Edition) for about £80 on Black Friday brand new and it was decent. Games don’t register it as a steering wheel and instead thinks it’s a PS4 controller. Didn’t expect that but it’s alright. Only works in PS4 games not PS5 games. Brought the wheel before I got a PS5 so now I regret it…
gear and belt gives you the downsides of both proformice wise but instead of the logi rattle you get a load seat belt sound. but my recommendation used to be just get a t300 rs gt but now a days to can basically get moza dd for the same price. so i say nowa days get a used logi g wheel for as cheap as possible and see if your gonna aculy use it(a lot of wheels just set cus people dont feel like setting them up) than if you know you like it and are gonna use it buy a moza dd or a fanatec gt dd pro need ps5 support
Thrustmaster worked amazing for me. Literal plug and play easy program to work with to adjust settings. T150 I used for years loved that wheel highly recommended over Logitech
Considering an upgrade to t150 but I have no honest issues the thrust master t80 (bungee cord / no FBB) wheel. If you drive the same car often you’ll sort of figure out the resistance without the rumble/electronic resistance
Biggest issue people point out is the 270 degree limited turn radius but that’s actually optimal for most high speed tracks. That being said, Upgrade to FFB wheel for added immersion not necessarily faster laps
i have the thrustmaster tmx and i fell in love i want to get pedals with a clutch pedel and get a manual gear shifter plus me and my dad are gonna make a custom made sim cockpit i can confirm it is additive.
UPDATED: Moza R3 and Fanatec CSL R2R Bundles are $400 and for PC are MILES better than anything I mentioned here. Haven't used either personally but direct drive is the sauce and that's what you want to get into for PC if possible. For Xbox, the R3 is also compatible - the wheels in this video are still "good" just shop for them very discounted from their listed prices.
which one would you recommend more?
@@raylmaooo Can't say for certain as I haven't used either personally. I've used Moza's R5 and really like it, and Fanatec seems to be on a stretch of customer service issues, but also Fanatec is stronger and might be acquired by Corsair which I think will be a good thing. I'd just recommend looking up reviews for both and going from there.
@@NPCLiam okay!! thank you :)
£400 isn't budget lol it's a week's wages for most people .
Start with a Logitech once you've driven it fast as you possibly can then upgrade if you need it
@@wheresmylplate1965 I’m not really saying it is - I’m saying if you’re spending $250 already, maybe even $300, you can get ALOT more for just another $100 and if you’re serious about getting into things and wanting a super crispy experience consider these other options vs getting a Logitech first then maybe just a short time later getting a R3 and now you’ve spend almost $700. If someone isn’t in a position to go for $400 like I wasn’t when I got my G920 then those other options are always there.
“It’s addictive” yep can confirm 💀
Yes
Sim racing got me breaking my bank bruh. I spend 2k on the first month upgrading my rig
@jeremyclarkson964you can get a real racing car at that point 💀
@@archux_for 2k? what are you talking about? maybe 2k for the wheels and the tires.
@@SMSmotorsportsyea but he said "on the first month" so add like 4 months to that and you havea about 8 thousand or add 1 month and you already have 4k. You can buy an actual car for that money not racing car but still a car
make sure if you plan to drive manual or use nicer pedals buy the T150 pro, as that comes with 3 high quality pedals as opposed to the normal T150 which has two pedals
If you want drifting t150 is worse than Logitech. T300 minimum bro saying as ex t150 and Logi owner.
@@petebyelack6322 yeah, was just pointing out to anyone adamant on buying the t150 thst the 150 pro has better pedals
@@NefariousIndividual ye thats true. I tested t150 pro and you right, the pedals were the best thing out of it. Similar to T-GT/T-GT 2 pedals where wheel is uncomparasible. So ye, good point, still not worth to buy t150 especially if you thinking about drifting :D
@@petebyelack6322 id say the T150 is a better drift wheel than the G29 because its rounded and the belt system is slightly smoother than logitechs gear system, but for anything else the T150 falls short compared to the G920/29/923 , T248 and T300
@@NefariousIndividual nah bro, t150 isn't smooth at all and the speed of wheelspin/wheelcounter in t150 is tragic. I have one in stock till today and bro Logi with good LUT is much better than t150. T300 is another league of both so not even worth mention it in this battle of Logi vs t150, but honest opinion t150 loose battle with any kind of logi g wheel.
Guys get a T300 you wont regret it. If you get a G29 you're gonna want an upgrade but you don't want to jump instantly to the $1000 crazy sim setups
no definitely don't buy one of those for your first sim wheel cus if u dont like it your gonna waste your money just get a g920 or 29 they're perfect for beginners and not to expensive
@@jaydendejong3641I want to buy one budget is 300 and lower have any to recommend am new to never have one
@@jaydendejong3641thank goodness I have a G920. It's my first wheel and very happy with it.
T300 is about the same price I guess
Fanatec has the CSL DD ready2race bundle for $400, imo that's a much better wheel base
The logitech g920 is a fantastic wheel for first time sim drivers, its fairly cheap in conparison to the other good quality racing wheels and will last you until you feel like upgrading for sure!
I'm coming from the perspective of someone who knows driving techniques and has only used them on sim racing, ngl I've never actually driven a manual gearbox irl and this is actually what got me into cars +anime and f&f (yee, but they do have some cool cars in there imo 🤷🏻♂️)
Its ffb sucks, its the worst recommendation. A T300 is so much better.
@@mizobai like 3 pedals
it lasted me a whole year till the pedals started malfunctioning sooo...
Force feedback is good enough for non professional used, brake pedal is too stiff but that's not hard to change, overall not too bad tbh.
@@Geet_Is_Baldok? The t300rs gt edition comes with three pedals, and occasionally $350 when on sale
I bought the Thrustmaster T248 for around 360 euros. It includes the racing wheel and 3 pedals. The brake pedal has 2 springs, the black spring and the Grey one. The grey spring is the default and provides decent resistance, the black one has twice the resistance.The wheel has 3,5 NM of torque, 900° of rotation and the world's loudest paddle shifters on the back. It's a great wheel for its price.
I got the same wheel, really nice wheel
@@free-hw9bk Is it worth the price? I'm thinking of buying a used T248x with pedals. The owner says it shows signs of being used (probably slight damage) but it would cost me 256 euros. Please tell me more about it, and help me decide if I should get it or get something else (the only other option is logitech).
@@igorgmd For 256 Buck use is quite a good deal, but if you search more or have 30€ more you can find some brand new one, i have to ask you what hardware do you use beacause there is PS4/PS5 and Xbox one/Xbox X and S model (both compatible on Pc)
@@free-hw9bk well i can get G29 brand new for €340 so I think the T248 is a better deal
@@free-hw9bk and I use PC
i was a god on controller, bought myself g920 for 180$ and i feel like i'm learning to walk again 😂
Yep you’ll loose some pace adapting to the wheel. But once you get comfortable with the wheel you’ll never go back to controller again.
I want to buy a steering wheel, is it really worth it?
@@Burnt_notfoundtea
@Flintandsteel definitely worth it. I just got my first ever wheel, the G923 and i love it. I was slower than when i used controller but after a week with the wheel I've past the pace of when i was on contoller
@@Burnt_notfoundYes. I’d recommend a g920, I’ve had mine for a full year now with heavy use and it still works the same as day one.
I started with the tmx and now I have the t248 + th8a and it’s amazing
Same, how's the T248
@@undercovervisiter5881the force feedback is almost as strong as the t300 but its a bit slow and vibrates a lot more
No joke I started with the tmx as well with the Th8a then I just got my t248
T248 was my first wheel! Picked it up a few days ago and i cant stop. (50% discount on my countries amazon)
@@suntzucancan I get the link please ?
It's, in fact, very addictive
What do you have/ recommend?
I went from a Thrustmaster TX straight to a Fanatec DD2. It's a GIANT price gap. The TX setup was probably $500-$600 at the time with the triple pedals, alcantara wheel, and shifter. Then the rig it was on was like $300. Just the DD2 base alone was $1500. My current rig probably costs around (with the ultra wide monitor) $5000. Right now is the time to buy (as of 11/20/23) Fanatec is selling everything for dirt cheap. That DD2 is 1/2 off and so are the V3 pedals (with damper/brake kits)
That’s nice I just two months in n first one was 3000 sold it for 1k then got another for 6k then gave it to my cousin n the one I have now is 15k n thinking of getting a 50k. next month they are addicting lol cheers budd
5k buys a real car bro
I'm a beginner i bought the t248 from Thrustmaster and its a very good wheel i can recommend it for other beginners
I started with a t300 rs gt and im still using it 2 years later it's a great wheel
Same
Same g920 and g29 just not worth it feels cheap and the extra 100 dollars is worth the extreem different
With that wheel do you Even need to upgrade
Mine lasted 1 month (yes with daily intense usage), the PSU had a burnt smell and… less ffb since it happened.
I will send it back and go with Fanatec this time
@@mathis64fr maybe you were just unlucky i use it almost everyday so i think you just had some bad luck
T150 is a great wheel, been using it for a good 3-4 years now
Honest opinion: get the one that's in your budget and make sure you have free returns in case you don't like it.
If you like it, you can continue from there - but you don't want to spend $1k on a week and pedal setup just to realize it's not really your thing
I just got my first wheel yesterday and I have to say it’s EXTREMELY addicting. I even got a really good deal on my T-GT for $300 and I have to say, it’s worth way more than what I paid for.
I honestly like the thrustmaster tx has a few issues if u use it for years like me but theres workarounds and overall smoother ffb than all the wheels mentioned in this video.
Ive spent 1,200 usd on my sim setup help i need a life.
I’ve had my tmx going on 5 or 6 years. The only problem I ever had is the plastic clamp breaking, but thrustmaster has sent me a new one free three times. Awesome first wheel 👍🏻
They do that?? I just stuck a bolt in mine and got a cheap wrench😂
Do you have to buy it from them directly to get a replacement?
Tried sim racing, fell in love, and now it's what I live for. 😂
When l got into sim racing l played on keyboard for like 80 to 100 hours. And knew l loved it. So l just bought a dd wheel as my first wheel and l love it
Smart man! Then you can think of adding onto that in the future vs upgrading something you already have. If you don’t have a rig yet, I would consider something super solid that is overkill for your current equipment. So that when you do upgrade to a stronger wheelbase in the future, you know your rig will be able to handle the forces the new base outputs.
About a year ago i bought a cheap wheel online and it sucked! Switched ro a Logitech G920 last week and I'm pleasantly surprised 👍
Nah I started with 8nm fanatec DD with full peddles and force break it’s amazing final price around 900
“its addictive” yes its true . coming from someone that bought a g29 , used for 2 weeks and bought a moza r12 + gs v2p wheel.
Amazing 😂
Fanatec csl dd is no doubt best beginner wheel coming from someone who owned a g29 prior
Yeah especially now that its priced the same as a t300, but fanatec has been dealing with customer service problems lately
Cammus C5 from now on, is the only suggestion for beginner wheels.
Thoughts on PXN V10?
I have, just save up for the Logitech or Thrustmaster. After 5 months of use the gears for the forceback made weird noises. Setup is way harder too. Not worth it, save up for the Logitech or Thrustmaster.
@@Welco_2 I’m also thinking about Logitech G920, it’s a bit cheaper but seems like it has better reviews.
it is indeed very addictive !! … I haven’t played another game since I bought GT7 and a sim rig . So much fun
Steer very far away from Logitech Wheels because they don't have enough force feedback. I know because I've owned basically all of them I'd go straight to a Thrustmaster t300 or a Thrustmaster t300 RS it's pretty good
I started with the Thrustmaster TMX PRO, I upgraded to the LOGITECH G923 and I’m lovin it !!!!!
I use the wheel on FORZA 5 & F1 2023
Bro spent like 500 bucks on a racing wheel but only 20 bucks on his keyboard 💀
uh so?
Your point?
@@oneminuteofanything3757 the point is obvious
To be fair... how much difference does an expensive keyboard make?
my recommendation is the thrustmaster t wheel bases, they are a bit more expensive, however the bases are compatible with pc and either playstation or x box depending on witch one you buy and have a quick release feature that will allow you to use a handful of different wheels on the base depending on what type of car your driving
A best beginner set up is needed
This’ll really help me practice my drunk driving skills thanks!!!!
Can confirm it’s addicting.
I picked up a TMX on Mercari for like $80, dude apparantly upgraded to a T300 hub and he actually shipped my wheel in the box the T300 came in lmao
Daaaaang that's an amazing deal.
I straight up went with the moza r5, coming from a Thrustmaster Ferrari GT experience 3-in-1 wheel ^^ I’m sooo hyped for it to arrive the next few days !
I just started getting into Sim racing in iRacing 2 months ago with g29, I'm saving for moza r5 now, it's no cheap hobby, no regrets😭
For everyone. As much as people recommend logitech, I tried a g29, i had a t150, a t300rs and now a simagic dd. I WOULD 100% BUY THE T300RS if i would get into simracing again as first purchase. Powerful enough, and it feel very natural. Not a promotion l, just a general advice.
hori ps3 wheel is 20 - 50 dollars and its pretty good to start out with except the suction cups are a little bad but you can clamp the wheel down or use tape
PxN is comin up too with their V10 Force Feedback wheel. I personally think it has nicer pedals and clutch compared to the logitech g29/920, and the wheel itself on par. My only complaint so far is lack of software and drivers.
It's a good wheel but I feel feel like it's angled too straight if you know what I mean
Driving Force GT for PC is a great optiom for starters. G27 as well
I have the thrusmaster t150 is it’s awesome so many different types of feedback it output especially playing assettocorsa with 100percent ffb
i Bought a Thrustmaster t300rs with good pedals for i think 200€ used, upgraded it for 70€ with a 350mm wheel and a 3d printed part to adapt real weels to it, its really good
Just picked up a g29 wheel, pedals and shifter along with a "seat-rig" to set it all up. And i got it all for only 150, been testing it, ands its amazing
I got the tmx and its so much fun! Super addictive
I am a firm believer in buy cheap, buy twice. So I decided to get the fanatec csl DD with the Clubsport v2 Pedals and their shifter. I also went with a sim labs cockpit and took a bucket seat out of my track car.
Yes I spent a fair amount of money but in the 3 years I’ve had it all I haven’t had to upgrade or spend anymore money at all, and am not looking to upgrade. Absolutely zero regrets.
That sounds amazing - buying cheap is definitely tricky, I do think sim stuff has good resale value, and doing something like a direct drive setup does get you a wildly better experience over a G920 or something which end up putting you off from the hobby if you think that;s what they all feel like.
Just remember. Never get anything missing the clutch.
Tmx user here, im upgrading after use since 2017
As someone who started with a g920, I can confidently say that you should go Thrustmaster for sure. Switched about a year ago because I felt stuck with Logitech but having a Thrustmaster means I can swap wheel rims, pedals, shifters and I can just keep upgrading things. If you think you won't want to upgrade your wheel, you're wrong because it is ADDICTIVE.
I got my G29 with shifter for £190 new, and put together my rig about a month after for £130, it's basic but it works, and about a month after that I picked up a cheap VR headset. Been way more fun than any other gaming apart from tactical SIM games
Tmx is fantastic. Clamp is a bit weak and i had to repair it 3 times. But its great
I recommend the thrustmaster tx it's about $700 for everything so not bad it's what I use and I like it
I’m on the thrustmaster side of things
Because especially if you’re on console, you can upgrade more
Like starting off with the T3PA pedals you can go to a loadcell pedals LCM or just a better spring set up with the T3PM pedals or you can have a cheap h shifter or a metal better shifter
Or a handbrake/ sequential shifter, thrust master has no end to their wheel based from the cheap tmx all the way to a few direct drive set ups
Of you can afford it, wait until Black Friday and try to pick up a Fanatec CSL DD bundle since that is probably the best value mid range wheel on the market so you wouldn't likely be wanting an upgrade for quite some time.
After using the TMX for 4 years I just recently upgraded to the moza R5. What I can say is the TMX was amazing and never gave me a single problem. The only notable things I can say about it is that over time the belts and gears get super loud, my D-Pad was loose when I got it (always worked no problems) and the force feedback is bare minimum compared to other wheels. However for $200 it was absolutely amazing for the time I had it. Moving on now, the Moza R5 is an absolute game changer. Way more force feedback, way quieter, way smoother, is way more responsive. Much better obviously. Long story short what I’m trying to say is I think it is 110% worth save the extra money and getting a Direct Drive wheel. Moza is even making a new R3 which would be the perfect beginning wheel.
Get a used thrustmaster t300rs gr or tx, theyre relatively inexpensive now and are honestly all you need (good force and smooth operstion due to it veing belt driven + console compatibility).Or look at lower end direct drive options from fanatec or moza. There are also other brands that have good bundle prices like cammus and pxn.
As someone who only started this year, the Logitech G920 is fucking amazing. I don't know that I'd want or need to go bigger.
I started with the T248. Only thing I don’t like is how loud the paddles are. Otherwise, 10/10 highly recommend
are the pedals load or have you just not cleaned and lubed them. the previous gen pedals the t3pa would make noise after a week but ounce you put good grase in them thay never make noise after.
Driving Force GT. It's the G29 layout with a horn button and sequential shifter extra.
That fact that direct drive wheels are inching closer to belt and gear driven wheels is insane
It’s crazy. $400 and you’re in a whole ecosystem, so dope
I went from Logitech G29, Thrustmaster T300 to the CSL DD
Found a TMX new in box for $150 a few years ago on marketplace. Been using it ever since, never had any issues. Would be nice to have the shifty boy add on but I would have to get the different pedal plate so I have the clutch.. also the paddle shifters on the TMX aren’t bad. Have a nice solid click, aren’t hard to pull and are made of metal so they feel good and much less prone to breaking compared to plastic paddles. Force feedback is enough to make you second guess simulation steering but if you want to have your thumb snapped off when you hit a wall, be my guest.
I started with the TM T248 for around 300 usd, It was such a good feeling the force feedback but unfortunately it was the worst purchase cause only last 3 days due to a very common problem I saw on internet.
I started with the T150 and although I already fell in that Simracing-Rabbithole, I don't enjoy the pedals since they don't offer much resistance
Trust me you can be competitive on a G920, I myself have entered many competitions with it and even made money with it. If you want to be competitive with some immersion it's great.
I'am using a T300 for like 1/2 year, and I can defineltly recommend it.
I would suggest a fanatec csl DD to start bcs it’s still an entry for those who want quality of feeling the road 🫡😊
Direct Drive is definitely the way to go now that entry level prices are so dang good.
My first, and current wheel is a Thrustmaster t128, which I bought nearly 4 months ago. It is obviously not be best, but it serves it's purpose. I'm actually planning to buy an add on shifter in the near future. It's great for casual gaming.
Got a wheel last weekend, have been hooked since the first race.
It's addictive indeed😂
The fanatec csl dd bundle gives a direct drive wheel and pedals, for only $400. You can later upgrade the wheelbase with a powersupply so you can go from 5 to 8 nm
I’ve got a g920 not huge into sim racing but it’s a blast
Honestly i would buy the t300 its a lil more expensive but its so much better and you can change the wheel in the future
T248 is a great option and if you can afford it id 100 percent splurge on the R5
Also the t248 is a good one
started off with a t80 on my ps4 eventually got a t150 pro and a pc then upgraded to a t300rs and just sold that wheel today and ordered my fanatec csl dd 8nm with the bmw clubsport gt2 wheel came a long way in sim wheels and cant wait to get my fanatec wheel
If you can afford it, go straight to DD with a load cell brake pedal. Plenty of more affordable DD options now.
the thrust,aster t248 is great
G920 works great for me and its not noisy like i thought it was gonna be from what i saw on the internet before i bought it its nice and smooth with a couple setting tweaks
The G920 is a good simulation wheel. You may have to adjust the force feedback and other settings to your liking to get the best experience you want. It’s also a very sturdy wheel as well. I accidentally dropped it once when I was trying to fix my setup and the wheel still felt the same.
It's the Mario kart Wii wheel accessory for the Wii mote (black is better and more recommended)
I have a tmx fib and love it. love the hobby
Moza R3 or R5. Those are the two I’d look at. Moza is fast building up their ecosystem, so those are a cheap option for direct drive and there is plenty of room with them to upgrade.
What i've noticed is that when you get a pc for gaming, you will fall into these rabbit hole for a community that you like (At least from me and my friends experience). For example, the mechanical kb community where no matter how many kb you build, you convince yourself that you can build a better sounding one or a better aesthetic build. Same goes for even the pc building, racing sim and even gaming mice.
And you know what? Go for it, if its fun for you then do it, spend money on them if you have it and just be happy with the things you bought for your hobby.
With a name like “Thrustmaster” hell i’d love it too
the cammus c5 also seems to be a good choice now
100% - yeah I gotta make an updated video haha
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I brought a Thrustmaster T80 (Ferrari 488 Edition) for about £80 on Black Friday brand new and it was decent. Games don’t register it as a steering wheel and instead thinks it’s a PS4 controller. Didn’t expect that but it’s alright. Only works in PS4 games not PS5 games. Brought the wheel before I got a PS5 so now I regret it…
Just started, I'm picking up the track racing pretty well but drifting is SO DAMN HARD 😂
gear and belt gives you the downsides of both proformice wise but instead of the logi rattle you get a load seat belt sound. but my recommendation used to be just get a t300 rs gt but now a days to can basically get moza dd for the same price. so i say nowa days get a used logi g wheel for as cheap as possible and see if your gonna aculy use it(a lot of wheels just set cus people dont feel like setting them up) than if you know you like it and are gonna use it buy a moza dd or a fanatec gt dd pro need ps5 support
Also if you want a cheap direct drive wheel fanatic has some good priced bundles ($400-$500).
pxn has some great wheels too
I set up my Farrari 430 thrustmaster wheel that I’ve had for a while and I’m addicted now
I got the Thrustmaster T128 for Christmas and it works fantastic it just takes time to get used to.
I’m getting a Ferrari gaming setup which includes a gear shifter and a 488 GTB steering wheel.😊
Thrustmaster worked amazing for me. Literal plug and play easy program to work with to adjust settings. T150 I used for years loved that wheel highly recommended over Logitech
Other than the Logitech i'd also recomend the pxn v10
Considering an upgrade to t150 but I have no honest issues the thrust master t80 (bungee cord / no FBB) wheel. If you drive the same car often you’ll sort of figure out the resistance without the rumble/electronic resistance
Biggest issue people point out is the 270 degree limited turn radius but that’s actually optimal for most high speed tracks. That being said, Upgrade to FFB wheel for added immersion not necessarily faster laps
i have the thrustmaster tmx and i fell in love i want to get pedals with a clutch pedel and get a manual gear shifter plus me and my dad are gonna make a custom made sim cockpit i can confirm it is additive.
Cammus c5 is THE BEST budget DIRECT DRIVE wheel at only $250
I have a t128 coming tomorrow and i cant wait.
Moza r3 bundle. You get everything to start out. Plus a dd wheel
I started with thrustmaster TMX and lasted less than 4 months,recently changed to g920 much better and i believe it going to last a few years