Recently got into GVG and something that I absolutely appreciate is just how passionate Jon is about showing us and telling us about things he thinks are cool, exposing us to games and processes we might not have otherwise.
The PS2 was the best era. Consoles were powerful enough to look good and have good gameplay but games weren't so expensive to make that companies didn't take risk or be innovative.
That's not the main reason why the PS2 era was the golden age of gaming,. The main reasons are : 1 gaming was not as mainstream, meaning there was much more freedom. 2 the developers who made the history of gaming in arcades and on classic consoles were still active and in that time reached the peak of their craft
I'm planning something similar to the GameCube, except a bit more elaborate and expensive - A HDMI port soldered into the motherboard - A Raspberry Pi Pico as a Picoboot Mod chip - An SD2SP adapter (Until I can get a legit GCLoader) - A new cooling fan - A Game Boy Player (So that I can use my Everdrive GBA cartridge) - The BlueRetro GameCube kit, a new controller port that allows me to use both regular GC controllers AND bluetooth controllers such as the DualShock 3, 4 and DualSense, Xbox One/Series controllers, Switch Controllers, Wii Remotes (For some reason), and even bluetooth keyboards so I can play Phantasy Star with a generic keyboard
Just crank up that CPU speed and you got yourself a Wii, lmao. *note: No, this is not a serious comment. Just a jab at the Wii's internals when I saw the BlueRetro Gamecube kit and the cooling fan on here.
Okay so Jon talking about the 50/60 hz difference on specifically pal consoles really helped me out, I thought that my pal ps2 couldn't handle ntsc games but it appears that my old EU CRT (that I took over for free some time ago) can't go past 50 hz and would just go nuts if I tried ntcs games on it.
Enjoying the video, but wanted to say that Sega Superstars is one of the less common PS2 games that's on a CD instead of a DVD. I don't know if CD PS2 games are more prone to disc rot. But from experience and from what I've read, the PS2 laser lens having issues reading a CD game over the years is somewhat common and may show either early signs of failure or simple misalignment.
I did this years ago with my original network adapter and an IDE HDD. Dragon Ball Z Budokai loaded so fast from HDD! These days I use a modified network adapter which has a SATA connector and added a 128GB SSD. Works great.
Awesome video, you make such great. This in particular makes me want to get into retro gaming without having to do an absolute search of games and also spend a lot of money on something that’s a classic. Great work 👍
I might just have to do this. I've been emulating ps2 for like 15 years. But playing it on original hardware is so much better. Also I have the component cables and a hdmi converter so my ps2 is already looking great on a hd/4k TV.
MAN My childhood friends place got broken into and they swiped his ps2 as well. Poor kid was so crushed because the pricks nabbed all the memory cards too!!!! he had three other modded ps2's in the shed because his dad had lan parties all the time and console tinkering was his whole hobby- BUT ALL HIS SAVES WERE GOOOOONE
Thank you Jon for making this. I was coincidentally planning on getting a PS2 to do all this stuff anyway, but this video is definitely a help for making sure what I need to do and get for all of this. Question though (and anyone else is welcome to answer), Are there any good ways of having PS1 Backups on the console?
To homebrew mine, I didn't buy the freemcboot memory card, I just used the disc exploit Also having a ps2 slim, I stream games isos from my Pc via network
reminds me of my homebrew'd wii u which can run gamecubes game natively, emulate the memory card and support original gamecube controllers via smash bros adapter
While WinHIIP works, there are more modern solutions out there that work better on modern Windows versions. I recommend HDL Batch Installer. It has a nice GUI, and can be used on Hard Drives connected to your PC and installing over the network
Great video that showed up in my suggested. Things have advanced a bit since I did my Free McBoot at least 8 years ago. I don't know if this was covered in the comments or a follow up, but you seem to have bypassed how you received a network adapter supporting SATA hard drives. The true adapters only have IDE and can only support IDE drives which only went to about 160GB in size as SATA had taken over the industry. There are videos on how to convert the adapter from IDE to SATA to hook up your shown 500GB or larger hard drive. I think I've seen eBay selling converted SATA adapters, but that is an important point to make people aware of.
I've actually been looking for a decent emulator PC since my old rig died. I decided to get a Steam Deck and I put in the purchase for it! So I'm hoping it comes in next week because one of the uses for it will be storing all my PS2 and Gamecube roms on the device! Hoping everything works out!
PCSX2 can get the job done, but there are some glaring glitches to this day. Crash Wrath of Cortex will become unplayable if you don't switch to the software renderer to get through areas that use a filter. I had to make a hotkey that toggles renderers to get past those sections, but I'd like to see more improvements to resolve this. It's still come a long way to be able to now play a PS2 portably with a SteamDeck.
@@Castcoder Oh true, but Wrath of Cortex is probably one of my least favorite platformers on the PS2. For the most part all of the games I have as isos run pretty great with the exception of VF4 Evo from my experiences.
Good video. One thing though: That's not a network adapter. It's a HDD adapter. There isn't even a Ethernet port on it. Calling it a network adapter can confuse your viewers as the original network adapter uses IDE not SATA like the one you have.
For a simpler solution, there is the SD card adapter (either the MX4SIO or MC2ISO), with OPL BDM4. Allows the console to play games from an SD card through the Memory Card ports.
Still have my fat PS2 and I've been thinking about doing this for a while. I own most of the must have games for the console already so I just never got around to it. Playing games that never left Japan like that 3D DQ5 remake is intriguing, though. If I mod, it'll most likely be for games like that.
There's a version of OPL that can read/write on FAT formatted drives. It removes the need for extra apps, you just need an external to usb adapter and file explorer. :)
Good Vibes Gaming: If I was locked in a room and I could never leave I would choose the PS3. One of the early ones that was fully backwards compatible to PS1 and PS2 games with the same modifications that you did to your PS2 here, so therefore I would have the best of three worlds. Or I would choose a monster computer setup with two 16 TB hard drives full of emulators and games. 15:30
I forget which system it was but I remember somebody replacing the disk reading laser with an SD card slot, I'd say if anybody perfects a method to do that with a PS2 Slim THAT would be the ultimate super optimal PS2 that could exist. Tiny, light, portable, and practically silent at all times compared to the bigger unit.
great video Jon! could you please elaborate on playing pal 50hz games at 60hz on this PS2? this has been an issue I've been struggling with for a while and I would love to know more about this
i didnt know about all this hard drive stuff and most of the videos just said that opl trough usb is perfect, if i knew i would have gotten a fat for half the money and would be playing fast loading games and watching all the cutscenes right now
Lol, bro doesn’t even have THE essential: Steambot Chronicles. For real though, great video! I’ll have to figure out how to dump the ISOs and save files from my pre-existing games
I love this so much. I sadly only have a PS2 Slim so would I manage the hard drive? Would it have to be an external one? Also loved seeing Disgaea 1&2 I feel like 2 doesn’t get talked about enough. And it certainly hasn’t had a remaster!
There are ways to use a hard drive over Ethernet but they're not particularly plug and play. If you look into SMB share, that'd be a place to start. I've not tried it myself so I can't elaborate further. I can't recommend USB due to the PS2 using USB 1.1 ports which are too slow for most games.
And I had no idea the network adapter would take a hard drive. But omggggg I have 2 ps2 fats one with a network adapter and the other with the cover. I’m definitely going back to playing my ps2 and that ps2 to hdmi😮😮
I wouldn't recommend using the gamestar adapter, you should use the official ps2 network adapter and the bitfunx sata adapter. HDL Batch is far better than WinHIIP too
I can't get past the format process. I keep getting an error message saying "the selected hard drive does not have a valid PS2 master boot record" and then the format fails. I can't seem to find a solution to the problem
I'm just getting into retro gaming, I grew up with nes and ps1, then had a ps2 when I was in the navy. How do I get the games that were not released in the US?
Been thinking of doing this myself - can you install PS1 games on the hard drive as well? Can you also keep adding games later on when you have already added them to the hard drive?
I should have never given away my ps2 that had laser issues. I have one still, but does doing any of this cause long term changes to the ps2 or is it as simple as just removing the hard drive and memory card
Is this the same process with an SSD? Also, I had to format my HDD in the actual PS2 as it didn't let me do it with WINHIIP, even as Admin, I think that's because I used an external dock. Only issue I'm having is OPL telling me that the file names need to be shorter than 32 characters. When I rename them, it's still saying the same error message?
PS2 games loading via LAN using OPL is even faster than the hard drive due to the bottleneck of the IDE interface of the PS2 itself. Even if you put a IDE to SATA converter and SSD drive in there, it won't be any faster than the mechanical hard drive you used in your video. If you do use a SSD, at least a SSD is less likely to fail like a mechanical hard drive can easily, which has happened to me twice with my PS2 collection over many years :)
Between my 3ds, wiiU, Switch, ps3, ps5, and laptop, I have way more games than I would be able to play in my lifetime. So, buying a modded ps2 is definitely not on my radar currently. If I ever need to play any ps2 game, I would probably get in on an emulator now.
I would personally go with the RAD2X PS2 adapter instead of that garbage "PS2 to HDMI" adapter. The RAD2X properly linedoubles the picture to 480p, whereas the PS2 to HDMI poorly upscales the image. It's a _little_ on the expensive side, but the RAD2X is worth it. Or at the very least, get the Hyperkin PS2 to HDMI.
I've done the exact same as thing as you but could you please tell me how to do the images part I can't seem to do that with the USB you didn't go into any detail. Please
I got a question in regards of saving games that are off region can the US Memory card save games off region or do I need that respectable memory card region
Jon has been KILLING IT on this channel.
Yea, he’s excellent. I enjoy his videos a lot
Only appropriate since this channel was originally his personal one prior to GVG's formation after some time at GameXplain and such
He's the reason I watch
Recently got into GVG and something that I absolutely appreciate is just how passionate Jon is about showing us and telling us about things he thinks are cool, exposing us to games and processes we might not have otherwise.
Jon’s passion is part of the reason I hope to enter this industry in some shape or form. It’s palpable and inspires me like nothing else.
This is really fantastic, especially because I've got games like Xenosaga 3 that I've been worried about with how expensive it is nowadays.
The PS2 was the best era. Consoles were powerful enough to look good and have good gameplay but games weren't so expensive to make that companies didn't take risk or be innovative.
it has the perfect balance, I remember how expensive PS3 games were back then
That's not the main reason why the PS2 era was the golden age of gaming,. The main reasons are :
1 gaming was not as mainstream, meaning there was much more freedom.
2 the developers who made the history of gaming in arcades and on classic consoles were still active and in that time reached the peak of their craft
I'm planning something similar to the GameCube, except a bit more elaborate and expensive
- A HDMI port soldered into the motherboard
- A Raspberry Pi Pico as a Picoboot Mod chip
- An SD2SP adapter (Until I can get a legit GCLoader)
- A new cooling fan
- A Game Boy Player (So that I can use my Everdrive GBA cartridge)
- The BlueRetro GameCube kit, a new controller port that allows me to use both regular GC controllers AND bluetooth controllers such as the DualShock 3, 4 and DualSense, Xbox One/Series controllers, Switch Controllers, Wii Remotes (For some reason), and even bluetooth keyboards so I can play Phantasy Star with a generic keyboard
Damn, now that's a setup. If I weren't in collage and actually had money i'd totally want to make one of my consoles as best as possible.
@@ewoutverheij4745 Thanks!
I have some of the cheaper stuff coming in the mail
Next month will probably be the controller deck
With the Bluetooth mod you can get some of the GameCube shaped switch controllers
Just crank up that CPU speed and you got yourself a Wii, lmao.
*note: No, this is not a serious comment. Just a jab at the Wii's internals when I saw the BlueRetro Gamecube kit and the cooling fan on here.
Okay so Jon talking about the 50/60 hz difference on specifically pal consoles really helped me out, I thought that my pal ps2 couldn't handle ntsc games but it appears that my old EU CRT (that I took over for free some time ago) can't go past 50 hz and would just go nuts if I tried ntcs games on it.
Yeah, I don't get why people say ps2 can't do 60hz because that's utter bullshit😆😆
Jon is a TREASURE. I always learn so much in these videos. GVG as a whole is a treat.
Enjoying the video, but wanted to say that Sega Superstars is one of the less common PS2 games that's on a CD instead of a DVD. I don't know if CD PS2 games are more prone to disc rot. But from experience and from what I've read, the PS2 laser lens having issues reading a CD game over the years is somewhat common and may show either early signs of failure or simple misalignment.
Already hacked my Wii and 3DS, but always wanted to know where to start with PS2. Thanks Jon!
I did this years ago with my original network adapter and an IDE HDD. Dragon Ball Z Budokai loaded so fast from HDD! These days I use a modified network adapter which has a SATA connector and added a 128GB SSD. Works great.
Neat
“I got all of the essentials”
(No Sly Cooper)
I’m sorry but this warrants the death penalty. Please line up against the wall
Ha ha!
Sucks for you that we abolished it then!
What's next? Bendova?
Awesome video, you make such great. This in particular makes me want to get into retro gaming without having to do an absolute search of games and also spend a lot of money on something that’s a classic. Great work 👍
Great timing with this one Jon! I just got into Wii U home brew and was starting to look into PS2 as well :)
I am looking into doing this to my ps2 I’ve just got for buzz hahah and only realised this is possible 😮😮😮😮😮
I might just have to do this. I've been emulating ps2 for like 15 years. But playing it on original hardware is so much better. Also I have the component cables and a hdmi converter so my ps2 is already looking great on a hd/4k TV.
What converter are you using? Everywhere I go, they keep saying Retrotink5X is the way to get the best image out of the PS2.
@@ultraspinalki11 that is true
MAN My childhood friends place got broken into and they swiped his ps2 as well. Poor kid was so crushed because the pricks nabbed all the memory cards too!!!! he had three other modded ps2's in the shed because his dad had lan parties all the time and console tinkering was his whole hobby- BUT ALL HIS SAVES WERE GOOOOONE
im sorry that ur house got broken into, and also thank you for this guide, this was one of the easiest “to-follow” guides
do you think you could do a ps2 slim upgrade version, show how to install games off a hardrive (usb)?
Thank you Jon for making this. I was coincidentally planning on getting a PS2 to do all this stuff anyway, but this video is definitely a help for making sure what I need to do and get for all of this.
Question though (and anyone else is welcome to answer), Are there any good ways of having PS1 Backups on the console?
PS1backups can be run via the HHD.
To homebrew mine, I didn't buy the freemcboot memory card, I just used the disc exploit
Also having a ps2 slim, I stream games isos from my Pc via network
Thank you John! I have a broken disc drive on my PS2, but I have a bunch of games on discs also, so my PS2 will be alive again soon.
reminds me of my homebrew'd wii u which can run gamecubes game natively, emulate the memory card and support original gamecube controllers via smash bros adapter
Just got a fat PS2 running in HDMI to keep playing my console locked favs. Saving this for further expansion. ❤
I did a noctua fan mod for a fat PS2 on my channel. I def recommend looking into that process
While WinHIIP works, there are more modern solutions out there that work better on modern Windows versions. I recommend HDL Batch Installer. It has a nice GUI, and can be used on Hard Drives connected to your PC and installing over the network
I, for one, am here for Jon's Homebrew Corner.
Great video that showed up in my suggested. Things have advanced a bit since I did my Free McBoot at least 8 years ago. I don't know if this was covered in the comments or a follow up, but you seem to have bypassed how you received a network adapter supporting SATA hard drives. The true adapters only have IDE and can only support IDE drives which only went to about 160GB in size as SATA had taken over the industry. There are videos on how to convert the adapter from IDE to SATA to hook up your shown 500GB or larger hard drive. I think I've seen eBay selling converted SATA adapters, but that is an important point to make people aware of.
Really enjoyed that. Would love to see a video on something similar on the Wii.
I've actually been looking for a decent emulator PC since my old rig died. I decided to get a Steam Deck and I put in the purchase for it! So I'm hoping it comes in next week because one of the uses for it will be storing all my PS2 and Gamecube roms on the device! Hoping everything works out!
PCSX2 can get the job done, but there are some glaring glitches to this day. Crash Wrath of Cortex will become unplayable if you don't switch to the software renderer to get through areas that use a filter. I had to make a hotkey that toggles renderers to get past those sections, but I'd like to see more improvements to resolve this. It's still come a long way to be able to now play a PS2 portably with a SteamDeck.
@@Castcoder Oh true, but Wrath of Cortex is probably one of my least favorite platformers on the PS2. For the most part all of the games I have as isos run pretty great with the exception of VF4 Evo from my experiences.
Thank you kind sir, I am doing the same thing right now and this is very easy to follow and encouraging.
The Persona 3 background music warms my heart. Keep up the good work.
Good video. One thing though: That's not a network adapter. It's a HDD adapter. There isn't even a Ethernet port on it. Calling it a network adapter can confuse your viewers as the original network adapter uses IDE not SATA like the one you have.
For a simpler solution, there is the SD card adapter (either the MX4SIO or MC2ISO), with OPL BDM4.
Allows the console to play games from an SD card through the Memory Card ports.
wouldnt the process be similar? still gotta plug it into pc to upload games and such?
Cool!
Only thing missing is, it would've been great if you could've shown, how to rip your own discs using the modded console! =)
Yea… I’m definitely “backing up” these games 👌🏼
Still have my fat PS2 and I've been thinking about doing this for a while. I own most of the must have games for the console already so I just never got around to it. Playing games that never left Japan like that 3D DQ5 remake is intriguing, though. If I mod, it'll most likely be for games like that.
Jon videos are always SO good.
There's a version of OPL that can read/write on FAT formatted drives. It removes the need for extra apps, you just need an external to usb adapter and file explorer. :)
That is a lie. That console is in perfect condition. If you could get me one like that one for $10 pounds I can easily pay for shipping XD
wow so much info, i've learn so much ad now i want to get a ps2 like i had back in the day.
Good Vibes Gaming: If I was locked in a room and I could never leave I would choose the PS3. One of the early ones that was fully backwards compatible to PS1 and PS2 games with the same modifications that you did to your PS2 here, so therefore I would have the best of three worlds.
Or
I would choose a monster computer setup with two 16 TB hard drives full of emulators and games. 15:30
I’m absolutely a noob at all this I truly am but with your help I will conquer this…✌️thank you
I forget which system it was but I remember somebody replacing the disk reading laser with an SD card slot, I'd say if anybody perfects a method to do that with a PS2 Slim THAT would be the ultimate super optimal PS2 that could exist. Tiny, light, portable, and practically silent at all times compared to the bigger unit.
8:15 I was expecting a quick flash jpeg of Pops Maellard lmao
This is really cool, thanks for this vid! I have a Slim PS2 but I might get a Fat so I can try this out
As a Secret Santa gift a few years ago, a good friend gifted me a fat PS2 and Persona 3: FES. I'll really have to look into these sometime!
Yeah I don't think my Facebook marketplace got the memo because they all want around $100+ for a PS2 😢
the ending is just proof that jon is on team fun for the upcoming splatfest
Awesome, PS2 is greates console and thankfully nowadays the emulator thrives and alive both on windows and android so we wont lose it in the future
Just discovered this channel and I gotta say i fuck with it. Shoutout.
I made my own free mcboot memory card back in the day. Had to do the weird cut up card/disk swap trick to do it.
I can't believe you filled half a tb without a single wrestling game
Make a video talking about making the Ultimate Original Xbox next. It's a bit more involved to mod, but its just as worth it.
great video Jon! could you please elaborate on playing pal 50hz games at 60hz on this PS2? this has been an issue I've been struggling with for a while and I would love to know more about this
i didnt know about all this hard drive stuff and most of the videos just said that opl trough usb is perfect, if i knew i would have gotten a fat for half the money and would be playing fast loading games and watching all the cutscenes right now
The whole part where you put the .iso in the DVD folder was unnecessary, that folder is actually intended for PS2 games over USB.
Love this video, I subbed.
Lol, bro doesn’t even have THE essential: Steambot Chronicles.
For real though, great video! I’ll have to figure out how to dump the ISOs and save files from my pre-existing games
I love this so much. I sadly only have a PS2 Slim so would I manage the hard drive? Would it have to be an external one? Also loved seeing Disgaea 1&2 I feel like 2 doesn’t get talked about enough. And it certainly hasn’t had a remaster!
There are ways to use a hard drive over Ethernet but they're not particularly plug and play. If you look into SMB share, that'd be a place to start. I've not tried it myself so I can't elaborate further. I can't recommend USB due to the PS2 using USB 1.1 ports which are too slow for most games.
New splatfest: What would you bring to a deserted island? Gear, grub or Shadow of the Colossus?
4 years ago, i was lucky and got 2 ps2 consoles, one console (gran turismo edition) was brand new.
cost me only 70 bucks.
best deal in my life
Damn, have you tired doing voice acting work, documentaries, or just make audio books? You have the perfect voice for listening.
He's the voice for Mr Handy in Fallout 4
And I had no idea the network adapter would take a hard drive. But omggggg I have 2 ps2 fats one with a network adapter and the other with the cover. I’m definitely going back to playing my ps2 and that ps2 to hdmi😮😮
$60 for a PS2 and the convenience of a hard drive.
Thousands upon thousands for 150 games on disk.
I wouldn't recommend using the gamestar adapter, you should use the official ps2 network adapter and the bitfunx sata adapter. HDL Batch is far better than WinHIIP too
I can't get past the format process. I keep getting an error message saying "the selected hard drive does not have a valid PS2 master boot record" and then the format fails. I can't seem to find a solution to the problem
I just did this mod yesterday. You have been watching spawn wave
Where can i download full rom libraries at once without dedicating my life to it??
Dish out the extra cash for preloaded hard drive from China.
Suddenly I no longer regret keeping my old fat PS2. This'll be fun...
You should make more of these with other consoles. Like 3ds.
Looking to pick up the retro fighters ps2 controller and my ultimate ps2 will be complete.
This is great if you are into hardware. If you don't care about hardware, this can all be done digitally with emulation and for free to boot.
Hardware >>>> Software
I love Jon so much!
I'm just getting into retro gaming, I grew up with nes and ps1, then had a ps2 when I was in the navy. How do I get the games that were not released in the US?
That isn't a network adapter. I know because everything I needed arrived tofday and the hdd cant connect to it
I don't have a computer, just a laptop. Can this be done with a laptop?
FREE MCBOOT CHADS LETS GOOO
Been thinking of doing this myself - can you install PS1 games on the hard drive as well? Can you also keep adding games later on when you have already added them to the hard drive?
Has he done a how to video for backing up ps1 games?
Man of culture with the Klonoa ost. ❤
Road trip for the PS2😁😁😁✨✨🎆🎆
I should have never given away my ps2 that had laser issues. I have one still, but does doing any of this cause long term changes to the ps2 or is it as simple as just removing the hard drive and memory card
"Modding your PS2 is surprisingly easy."
...sorry, I had to.
Can you also put ps1 games on the hard drive?
Is this the same process with an SSD? Also, I had to format my HDD in the actual PS2 as it didn't let me do it with WINHIIP, even as Admin, I think that's because I used an external dock. Only issue I'm having is OPL telling me that the file names need to be shorter than 32 characters. When I rename them, it's still saying the same error message?
**me eying my fat ps2 on the shelf** "aw Yiss"
I prefer HDboot for my personal ps2 and use memory cards just for save progress
PS2 games loading via LAN using OPL is even faster than the hard drive due to the bottleneck of the IDE interface of the PS2 itself. Even if you put a IDE to SATA converter and SSD drive in there, it won't be any faster than the mechanical hard drive you used in your video. If you do use a SSD, at least a SSD is less likely to fail like a mechanical hard drive can easily, which has happened to me twice with my PS2 collection over many years :)
Why did you “lose” the expansion bag cover Jon?! 🤔 very suspicious 😆
Can't believe John took me out of the house against my will 😨😨😨
Between my 3ds, wiiU, Switch, ps3, ps5, and laptop, I have way more games than I would be able to play in my lifetime. So, buying a modded ps2 is definitely not on my radar currently. If I ever need to play any ps2 game, I would probably get in on an emulator now.
Another certified Jon banger
does this mod play ps1 games too? great video
Thank you so much..🎉🎉🎉
I would personally go with the RAD2X PS2 adapter instead of that garbage "PS2 to HDMI" adapter. The RAD2X properly linedoubles the picture to 480p, whereas the PS2 to HDMI poorly upscales the image. It's a _little_ on the expensive side, but the RAD2X is worth it.
Or at the very least, get the Hyperkin PS2 to HDMI.
FMCB doesnt work with 9xxxx slim models
I was trying to do this but with a SSD and a Windows Emulator on Mac but the SSD wasn't being detected by the emulator So i gave up :(
I've done the exact same as thing as you but could you please tell me how to do the images part I can't seem to do that with the USB you didn't go into any detail.
Please
You forgot about the official Linux kit for the PS2. But outside of that yeah this is the ultimate PS2.
I got a question in regards of saving games that are off region can the US Memory card save games off region or do I need that respectable memory card region
Saving the $60 and buying a cechA
Quick question, if you have a pal console do you need to use pal games as well?
With discs yes but a hard drive will play NTSC games