Easiest PS2 SSD and Fan Upgrade | This PS2 Is Completely SILENT!

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  • @notkyloren
    @notkyloren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Instead of using FreeMcBoot, since you're using an SSD -- You should just flash the Free Hard Drive Boot image. It's basically FMCB, but works off the SSD automatically when you power on the PS2. No need for a memory card.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Nice! I will definitely look into that 😁

    • @That_Handle
      @That_Handle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

    • @MegaIceLynx
      @MegaIceLynx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I switched to FreeHDBoot myself as well. I am though struggling incredibly trying to get some sort of cheat device to work on it while keeping both memory card slots open.

    • @ronaldmcdonald9328
      @ronaldmcdonald9328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what I use

    • @MegaIceLynx
      @MegaIceLynx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TogonzoMedia thank you! So many guides I’ve looked through which don’t address clearly how to configure that.

  • @techhoarder3416
    @techhoarder3416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +692

    For anyone doing this with a larger drive (3.5"), you need an external HDD enclosure that has its own power supply because the larger drives require a 12V rail that is not provided by the USB port. Also, Winhiip is the WRONG application to use. It is buggy and very limited (max off 255 titles, cannot handle drives larger than 1TB) and does not set up any virtual memory cards. So you would be stuck making one for each and every individual game. Use HDLBATCH, which takes care of game titles, VMCs, and doesn't have the limitations and problems with Winhiip. Lastly, if you can, go with the original SONY adapter and get a SATA upgrade kit for it (if using a modern drive). This gives the best compatibility and won't randomly die like some of the 3rd party Gamestar (and various knockoff).

    • @oPtiMuMpRiCe
      @oPtiMuMpRiCe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      You da real MVP

    • @bobsteve7312
      @bobsteve7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cheers my friend!!!

    • @RiderNexus
      @RiderNexus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THANK YOU!

    • @TerminatorZXY
      @TerminatorZXY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can just get an old IDE drive like Maxtor.

    • @Qseyo24
      @Qseyo24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got the juice Man. Saludos desde Argentina

  • @xboxmods
    @xboxmods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +641

    Just FYI, Noctua does actually sell a 5v version of this same fan. It’s NF-A6x25 5V. They carry both voltages for a number of their fans. I learned that the hard way when I bought the 12v model for my Dreamcast and it wouldn’t spin 😭.

    • @dreamcastfan
      @dreamcastfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeah, just what I was going to say. All the Dreamcast Noctua fan mods use a 5v model, so it should just be a case of buying the 5v one and slotting it in.

    • @mbe102
      @mbe102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I bought the wrong one for my Gamecube and it sounded like my GC was about to fly away. Getting the right voltage REALLY helps haha.

    • @trigg7466
      @trigg7466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      i Bought the 5v Version of this fan . After installing i noticed that it's louder than the stock fan. Not recommended. Gonna put my stock fan back in and just gonna leave it as is.

    • @paklekj4429
      @paklekj4429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikeycrackson wheres the exhaust fan then if you only has 1 fan option and you use it for intake?

    • @Xfade81
      @Xfade81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@mikeycrackson Pulling hot air out of the console is better then to push cold air in because of how the case and internals are designed. The hot air will eventually heat up other parts of the system because there's no second fan to quickly dissipate it. Other reason is because of the PSU it's next to. Your proposal will actually get more dust in to the console.

  • @mrg7272
    @mrg7272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My uncle recently passed away. He wanted his nephews to have all of his positions and I found an old ps2. I’m going to do this to it so I can keep a little of his memories alive. RIP Uncle “Tweety”

  • @James_D.
    @James_D. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1054

    I used to be a fan, but after watching this masterpiece I‘m a whole air conditioner!

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Haha nice😂 Thank you 🙏

    • @scotter140
      @scotter140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      👏👏👏

    • @IamAJoe
      @IamAJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      As a member of the council of Dads, I give this joke the Dad seal of approval.

    • @Yakobu90
      @Yakobu90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool! 😎

    • @HighAcuity
      @HighAcuity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Have seen this joke 1000 times before.

  • @dub2536
    @dub2536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This video could not have arrived at a better time for me as I just found my old PS2 after almost fifteen years. Very impressive presentation. TY kindly!

  • @Beezerfish79
    @Beezerfish79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can confirm, just did these exact upgrades on my og PS2 last month. Totally worth it

  • @Rappoltt
    @Rappoltt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    IMPORTANT NOTE TO ANYONE DOING THIS WITH A 3.5" HDD:
    Those single cables Tito shows and even the cables that have 2 USB ends almost never have enough power for a 3.5" HDD to work properly, even with high-power USB ports. You'll need a dock with an external power supply for those. I've been through this many many times. Don't gamble with your time, just spend an extra $10 on the dock. They dock will always work for 2.5" HDDs and SSDs, as well.

    • @banterwithbawden5444
      @banterwithbawden5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by the dock

    • @Rappoltt
      @Rappoltt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@banterwithbawden5444 A HDD dock, if you purchase one. Dock vs cable.

  • @maverickhuntersyd
    @maverickhuntersyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your comprehensive mod videos. I love how I can get a junk console, watch your video and then have the gist of everything I should do to it rather than seeking out the smaller mods myself on top of the major ones.

  • @KennytheHedgehog619
    @KennytheHedgehog619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just followed this tutorial and I was blown away at how much a difference this fan makes, seriously its a game changer!

  • @robertwarnick3094
    @robertwarnick3094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    This channel is so under rated. The work he puts into these videos is amazing. I love the work you do and love the content of this channel. Keep up the amazing work!!!!

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you so much Robert!! 🙏

    • @sergeleon1163
      @sergeleon1163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MachoNachoProductions agree with Robert, I'm seeing the video a few days after release and didn't see any comments addressing the scratch mark question. Although you can't get rid of them entirely you can reduce them greatly with (black) car plastic/trim restorers. Example CeraKote Ceramic Trim Coat.

    • @Salku_Chaotix
      @Salku_Chaotix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I never treat this channel as underated. Its just right.

    • @ViciousAlienKlown
      @ViciousAlienKlown ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a great channel but there are channels on TH-cam who don't get any views that deserve a huge audience.

    • @wyldelf2685
      @wyldelf2685 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ViciousAlienKlown thanks 😂🎄👍

  • @Eventwow
    @Eventwow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember the 30001 model when I was a electronics manager. It had a a lot of updates that made the system better

  • @natethebad
    @natethebad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    A comparison video, or even just a quick community tab update, comparing the SSD mod to the Memory Card mod would definitely be interesting. also, the librarian style with your glasses at 11:40 was pretty funny and caught me off guard. Thanks for another great video!

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Haha thank you Nathan! I will definitely do some testing and share my findings on comparing the two 👍

    • @MediocreTCG
      @MediocreTCG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MachoNachoProductions looking forward to it. I recently did the game star/SSD/and fan mod myself and wanna sleep how sd stacks up for my slims.

    • @That_Handle
      @That_Handle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🔴 My curiosity and concern lie in whether or not the memory card SD reader would have provided fast enough if not matching speeds to keep PlayStation2 consoles synced while playing multiplayer online as well as LAN-tunneling, over iLink (s400) system-link and LAN MP. Not that it's a core interest but it would be interesting to see, among those, the small handful subset of yet notable PS2 titles that often desync from others when connected online from players using different storage and pathways from which to play. Such a comparison especially in light of how much the SD card modded memory card could serve so many slim models to, potentially, vastly improve the opportunity to increase the online PS2 player base.
      🔴 Also, am curious whether the slower fan speed will cause overheating when you start using more than one DualShock controller and all the rumble Motors are kicking in as well as the effect of the USB Jacks when you are using force-feedback steering wheel + keyboard/voice chat, Rock Band peripherals once a USB splitter is plugged in, music creation peripherals or lightguns that pull power.

    • @Shelboooooo
      @Shelboooooo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MachoNachoProductions Yes please. I am considering this mod but wondered about the data speed between the memory card or using an SSD for my roms of games I own.

    • @SirReptitious
      @SirReptitious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A comparison video would be great. This is probably a stupid question, but I want to know if one of these solutions has better compatibility than the other. In the last video you linked to a google doc that listed game compatibility, and I wasn't very impressed. I'm guessing it's the same here since they both use mcboot? Are there other solutions that are better? Otherwise if I want lousy compatibility I'd just say only use PS2 emulation. I expected much better from these solutions running on native hardware.

  • @ratykat
    @ratykat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I'd love to see a shoot out between DVD, front usb, the memory card loader from last week, IDE drive and SSD to see what the differences are in terms of load time etc.
    Thanks for another great video Tito!

    • @Legend1148
      @Legend1148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And LAN games

    • @pizza_for_free
      @pizza_for_free ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Front USB is the slowest, as the ports are USB 1.1. HDD is faster than DVD. SSD is theoretically the same as HDD, iirc the PS1 hardware controlling the drives cannot actually pull the data as fast as an SSD is capable of supplying it, but I could be wrong.

    • @Jorge.ALXNDR
      @Jorge.ALXNDR 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pizza_for_free and using the USB 1.1 is a recipe to crash cuz it's too slow for some games

  • @rafadono
    @rafadono 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Great videos as always!
    The fan issue is not necessarily one, because you have to measure the airflow and heat transfer to see if it is a problem or not, for example, the original fan has fewer blades than the new one, so even if the new one rotates at a slower speed than it should be it can give more air and produce a better heat transfer overall.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That’s good to know! Thank you! I am researching better ways to measure heat and cooling since I do video covering those topics.

    • @Fogolol
      @Fogolol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MachoNachoProductions i say don't worry too much about the cooling on your phat ps2, as long as it isnt RIDDLED with dust and that fan does indeed spin it will not overheat
      the ps2 slim on the other hand gets really warm

    • @CakeZombie6727
      @CakeZombie6727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he said the disc tray was broken while it was open y didn't he put a new one?

  • @ryantakahashi9130
    @ryantakahashi9130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Noctua makes those same fans in a 5V model already. NF-A6x25 5V PWM and NF-A6x25 5V. Not sure how long the PS2 pushes 7V but if it's only short bursts, the fan will probably be fine. Otherwise it might just need a small resistor to drop down the overall voltage some.
    That being said if the cooling is already sufficient with an undervolted fans there is no point in changing them. Fans should last longer that way.

  • @briangilmartin662
    @briangilmartin662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a long time fan of Dynasty Warriors, I'm loving the fact that this channel is tackling the PS2! I don't know much about heating and cooling, but I could see where someone might be concerned about the voltage rating on the fan. Especially if it's not getting enough power to do its job.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love dynasty warriors, if been a long time since I’ve played though 😅

  • @glassvial
    @glassvial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Biggest con would be having to remove the SSD and plugging it into a PC to load new games. I think the old school HDD adapter plus the SATA adapter shown at 3:50 might be the better option, then you can keep the network port to transfer new games via FTP. I also think it's a bit disingenuous to call the Game Star model a "network adapter" when it has no network connection, but I digress. ;)
    As far as the scuffs, you can try magic eraser as some have mentioned, but be careful as it may smooth the matte finish. Try on an inconspicuous area first.
    Yes to a comparison video, and thank you for this video, looking forward to the updates.

    • @filds1
      @filds1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I dont think this a problem. Since SSD doesnt suffer from high usage aka storage on it like regular hdd when they go full they pretty much go down in speed. Soo you get a 250 or 500 ssd and just download shit ton of games on it since games are around 500mb to 1.45gb you can still load around 300 games on a 500gb ssd

  • @l00tur
    @l00tur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Tito for those scratches, you could try the plastic scratch removal liquids. I believe Novus is the brand most go with and has a 2 part plastic scratch removal/restore set that’s pretty cheap. I’ve used it for SNES, PSX, Dreamcast with success. No buffering wheels or anything, just need a microfiber cloth and you’re golden!

  • @damonwalden5699
    @damonwalden5699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm extremely pleased that you rotated the logo on the disk drive when you stood it up😌

  • @coderkind
    @coderkind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    A comparison video would be great; guessing the internal drive will perform a lot better and work with more games. Hopefully this marks the year we get a proper ODE and HDMI solution for the console, as its library of games was amazing.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I’ve been praying for an internal hdmi from from pixelfx. Hopefully we get one soon 😁

    • @alexcesarcarboni3920
      @alexcesarcarboni3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as i know there is no ODE in the works for ps2, but the HDMI mod is about to be launched for citrus3000psi, it was scheduled for the end of 21 but i think it was delayed due the part shortage.

    • @robbyjvc
      @robbyjvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IMO Any company manufacturing a PS2 ODE would have a hard time competing with a FREE (as in cost, and freedom) product like OPL.

    • @alexcesarcarboni3920
      @alexcesarcarboni3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robbyjvc agree, maybe the only advantage would be in compability and ps1 Native, for sure would be who buy It, but less than other systems without a open source loader like the OPL that Works Very well.

    • @minmogrovingstrongandhealthy
      @minmogrovingstrongandhealthy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of these videos are clickbait BS. Often the drive mods or USB lack compability and power to run a game properly.
      The ''oversized paperweight'' remark falls flat and is completely ignorant in this video because a new laser bay unit was-is still 5 dollars with free shipping from china.
      Anyone can replace it thanks to video or photo tutorials since forever. Add a chip to it to run backups that is another 10 dollars.
      You are good to go for another at least 20 years. These replacement parts will be available forever since PS2 and PS1 is still the most popular gaming system in the world and sold more then any other.
      The HDD can be optional and as a bonus, no need to ignore it's original functionality like the DVD drive and the run of original games or backup discs.

  • @bonkerzmusic6506
    @bonkerzmusic6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing transformation. When I was a kid I was so dissapointed to find out that my fat 30xxx could not use a modified chip.
    Its amazing how far technology has come far, wish I had this tools and upgrades when I was young, time goes so fast :(

  • @Mullratte
    @Mullratte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe it's just me but I actually enjoy the fan noise it's really nostalgic besides I use a home theater system so I never really hear it anyways.

  • @GranpaSlayman
    @GranpaSlayman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In tears while watching this. Brings back many memories, and now there's a way to revive one - a complete new One.
    .

  • @bradcarlson8349
    @bradcarlson8349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did the exact set of mods to mine, using the same fan kit and drive caddy, a few months ago. Works great and haven't noticed any issues from heat. Also eagerly awaiting LaserBear's fan solution, just in case.

  • @tzexiangwong
    @tzexiangwong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im gonna try this on my own PS2 since i still have one and it still can read games and run. Im glad i found this video, it might bring my old PS2 more life.

  • @Fighter_Builder
    @Fighter_Builder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I installed a hard drive into my old PS2 semi-recently and I've been having a ton of fun with it! If you told me as a kid that you could stuff a whole hard drive in there and install whatever games you wanted, I wouldn't have believed you lol
    Really nice to see you giving the PS2 some attention recently!
    Also, I personally went the route of using the SATA connector board in an original network adapter. I've heard official adapters are a bit more reliable, so I opted for that instead.
    I'm also interested in doing a fan mod, but I dunno... That old PS2 fan whirr is kinda nostalgic for me lol

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha true! That ps2 fan noise is instant nostalgia 😅

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MachoNachoProductions It's as important as the engine noise when you start a car! Switching it on and hearing the fan noise with the splash screen is just pure nostalgia for anyone who grew up playing PS2

    • @gentarofourze
      @gentarofourze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I ran games off my hard drive in 2006, but those days it required a boot disc to get into the hard drive software.

    • @TheShogun88
      @TheShogun88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just picked up a ps2 for the sole purpose of enjoying all my childhood games, and well the soft modding as well 😅 I’m confused about the iso part of the mods though like do I have to own the games to download/Flash them on to a drive from the ISO/ ROM websites to be able to play them? I don’t own any ps2 games, and as many know they have gone up in price for the really good ones.

    • @tspawn35
      @tspawn35 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheShogun88 So, no you don't have to actually own the game. People will call it illegal. But, no one is going to know that you don't own a real copy.

  • @kingkosher6231
    @kingkosher6231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only will I be subscribing to this channel but I ordered everything to do this mod to my very own childhood PS2 that JUST RECENTLY had it's DVD drive fail on me. Thanks for saving my trusty PS2 from sitting on my shelf because I'd be unable to throw it out since I played countless hours of games on it. You have given my favorite console of all time new life, thanks.

  • @Fuzzy-88
    @Fuzzy-88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tito! Always clean and very professional videos and editing. I would love to see this setup against last week's SD memory card in the near future.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you RYDco! Will definitely look into making a comparison video!

    • @alexcesarcarboni3920
      @alexcesarcarboni3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MachoNachoProductions i think that you could show usb and smb on this comparison too, just to show all options available that runs via opl.
      Maybe even show some ways to setup smb, however it's only a software side and not hardware.

  • @wide4402
    @wide4402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought this same TPO silent fan and installed it just the other day, very impressed with how quiet is is

  • @dhoome1234ify
    @dhoome1234ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've always wanted to see a PS2 mod from Macho Nacho.
    Keep it up guys ❤️

  • @jakeiswayblack3377
    @jakeiswayblack3377 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just ordered an Ocean Blue PS2, and bought everything in this vid for the build. I'm so excited to play GTA and ffX again

  • @Izquierda
    @Izquierda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nice video! A couple of suggestions: 1) The fan mod is not really necessary, and as you noted this Noctua fan is being underpowered, if you actually tapped 12V for it it would be louder. It's not necessary because the noise mainly comes from the drives. The most silent option is actually an SD card paired with appropriate adapters for SATA (if using a 3rd party or modded first party network adapter) or PATA (if using an unmodded original network adapter). 2) Performance is better with an SSD compared to the original PATA drives (game lists on OPL and such load faster), but an SD card can be just as good in performance if not more. 3) WinHIIP is not as good as HDLDumb for loading games, though it has the useful feature of formatting drives to the PS3 format, but it is recommended to use ULauncher ELF instead to format the drive (and add OPL folder structure) while it is connected to the PS3 instead.

    • @ubermenschmexa
      @ubermenschmexa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This sounds interesting and also way cheaper than the mod on this video. I'm looking to mod my PS2 to play games from a drive but never heard of using an SD card. Is there any video of how to do the things you say?

  • @yt_dt
    @yt_dt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Between the previous video and this one, you have given my favorite console, hope again in 2022

  • @dylwingo8084
    @dylwingo8084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Awesome videos! Really love the attention to detail and the overall quality! It be pretty cool in the future to touch up on laser replacements for both the PS2 Fat and Slim consoles, since some of us still enjoy playing Physical media, despite the digital SSD and Memory Card options available, or at least be able to have the ultimate PS2's that utilize both disc media and digital media

  • @TheDaxter11
    @TheDaxter11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    From what I've seen in other videos like Spawn Wave's, if you use the Free Boot card and you plan on ripping games from their disks with it, it'll just give you the option to format the SSD or hard drive on the PS2 without needing to connect it to your computer.

  • @mydjsobad
    @mydjsobad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those Gamestar adapters are SUPER hit or miss on whether they'll actually work. I've purchased multiple brand new and had issues, while using the SATA upgrade board for the official Sony HDD/BB adapter has never even once caused me an issue. If you can get one of the Sony adapters, just do the upgrade and save yourself the potential headache.

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How was the upgrade? I bought the Kaico adapter because I couldn't be arsed to take my Sony adapter apart.

    • @thebeautifulvideogame1396
      @thebeautifulvideogame1396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Had a bad Gamestar experience as well. The unit didn’t work with any ssd or hdd on multiple ps2 systems. Return shipping was three quarters of the price. So upgrade for me as well.

    • @mydjsobad
      @mydjsobad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dapperfan44 the install is actually super easy, just remove a bunch of screws and swap out a ribbon cable. I used one of the bitfunx upgrades but I think they're all pretty much the same. What ultimately makes all of the difference is that the Sony interface board for the PS2 is miles better than the gamestar ones, the upgrade board just replaces the IDE port on the Sony BB/HDD Adapter

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mydjsobad cool, thanks for the input. Might try it one day.

  • @TheDramolcan
    @TheDramolcan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its time we see some wireless controller options for PS2.

  • @PushaTK
    @PushaTK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    SSD modding a ps2 for games has to be one of the smoothest ways to play ps2 roms using original hardware

    • @PushaTK
      @PushaTK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Make the comparison video between the SD & SSD PS2 emulation

    • @PushaTK
      @PushaTK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The biggest pro I can think of between the SD & the SSD is that the SD method would work on a slim PS2, whereas the HDD method requires a fat PS2. The SD method has less hardware tinkering as well, and sometimes the amount of work between each choice can influence a decision. SSD has a higher storage capacity cap, & would most likely provide faster loading times with games compared to the SD I assume.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I may have to 😁

  • @Rappoltt
    @Rappoltt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's totally fine to run a DC fan under it's sticker voltage as long as it spins and does sit there cogging. That's how 2 and 3 pin fans have their speeds modulated; through voltage. The worst thing that will happen is it will 'die' sooner, because it won't have the torque from 12v to start spinning... in a couple decades.
    You can often run them over that voltage also without consequence. A 12vDC fan is usually happiest between 7v and 15v, so 5v might be a bit low. Noctua's 5v fan running at 5-7v might be happier or last longer, but it will probably spin faster and be noisier.

    • @dev1anceONE
      @dev1anceONE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Original PS2 Fan is 7v(there is DC7V 0.21A - it gives something about 1.47W) so it will be propably fine

  • @JPHarringtonJr
    @JPHarringtonJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This looks like an awesome mod. I cant wait to craft the perfect PS2 for me when the time comes. I have a slim, and idk if I will search for a fan solution on that, but I confess I like the look of this original unit more. The front cover of the disc tray is iconic. Thanks for the awesome coverage as usual my dude!

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the original ps2’s look also! Honestly might be my favorite looking console. Thank you Jim! Cheers buddy!

    • @Zulf85
      @Zulf85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had both over the years, and there are definitely a lot of advantages to getting an original model. I'd highly recommend it!

  • @enermaxstephens1051
    @enermaxstephens1051 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    For those scuffs on the housing, I would try a plastic polish. Something like Norvus, which is used at aquariums to keep many of their plastics looking good. You may need a very small polisher to get the best effect. If that didn't get them out, I would consider hitting just the top with a new coat of paint. If you get the color right, nobody would ever know the difference as long as you made sure you got those scuffs polished with the Norvus first.

  • @wetsu7648
    @wetsu7648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video as always - I did this exact mod a year or so ago. As far as dealing with the scratches on the top shell, you can use the Mr Clean Magic Eraser sponge with some soap/ water to clean and buff-out some scratches (just be gentle around the PS2 logo so you don’t rub that off) and the shell should be almost like new.

  • @swordsaver
    @swordsaver หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great tutorial and you made it so simple to follow. I didn't end up changing the fan but followed your SSD setup with no issues.

  • @victornicolasruy-diaz2647
    @victornicolasruy-diaz2647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm really interested in the comparison you exposed.
    About the fan voltage issue, I think it might not be such a problem at all. Most cooling systems have tension modulators to control the speed (and noise) they run according to the heat they must decrease. If that Noctua, that we know is super efficient, work as PS2 need with a maximum of 5-7V there is no problem to be fixed.
    In fact, it's overclocking what would be a problem shortening the fan life.

  • @KBABZ
    @KBABZ ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the guide!! I used this to install an SSD into my PS2 after the laser started acting hinky, and it works great! The only hurdles were to do with OPL, which wasn't covered in the video itself but I was able to figure out.

  • @silverian
    @silverian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great upgrades and it is always nice to know repairing choices to do when DVD drive breaks! I really love this kind of videos!

  • @brendanjameswilliams
    @brendanjameswilliams 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3M magic eraser with some water and a little bit of pressure got a fair amount of the scratches on a matte black ps3 I had.. definitely worth a try.

  • @bingbollard
    @bingbollard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Definitely need a MC2SIO, heat and price comparison to make an informed choice on this. Still, great video.

  • @mulletmcnugget
    @mulletmcnugget 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! I put a HDD (with HDadvance) in my PS2 when I moved countries in 2005, meant i could take my PS2 in my hand luggage and be able to play when we arrived without waiting for the rest of my stuff in shipping. Now it lives in my PS2 powered Arcade Table. :)

  • @JesusRodriguezCisneros
    @JesusRodriguezCisneros 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey Tito! Another PS2 mod back to back :D
    This got me thinking on swapping my old IDE drive for a SATA, though I’d have to get an adapter; I guess that speed is not an advantage but an arguable better durability and a quieter solution. The fan option I’d be holding off until a more proven solution since my PS2 in on a cabinet which may encounter overheating, though I’m jealous on how quiet yours turn out!
    I guess the downside of your current setup is that for new games you have to take the disk out (though connecting my PS2 to the network is another equal pain).
    Cheers dude!

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah dude, waiting on a fan from laser bear may be a good bet. I’m sure this one is fine but I know laserbear is definitely putting in the research to make sure it’s as good or better than the stock fan in terms of cooling. Cheers buddy!!

    • @Spentbrass42
      @Spentbrass42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i went and got a official network adaper and a sata board for it installation was somewhat uneventfull except for the screws holding the IDE and its power connector boards being annoying and requiring me to drill them out. but ive had no problem with the WD 500gig drive i installed with it and its a pretty viable option if you find the official one under 20 and the adapter for 15.

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to play new games without bothering to remove the hard drive, you can use a flash drive. A few things though:
      You can only use FAT32, so you can't put a game on it above 4 GB without extra steps.
      The USB ports are like 1999 technology, so load times will be slooooow. Game plays normally, though. In addition, prerendered cutscenes will play slowly too.
      I believe it's kinda finicky and only certain USB drives will work.

  • @whosdenzel
    @whosdenzel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video. but I never understood all the complaints about the fan. had a 39001 date code 3A and a 39001/N date code 3B. its definitely audible but never enough to bother me. when playing a game the sounds/music drown the sound out easily.....to each their own I guess. I think people overexaggerated it though

  • @briancernic
    @briancernic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was planning on doing the same fan mod but was worried about the low fan speed as well. I ended up 3d printing a mod that sits on top using a 120mm silent fan tapping into 12v. Silent still, but with tons of airflow. Great stuff as usual though!

  • @omarsheriff51
    @omarsheriff51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The convenience of having your favorite titles is extremly convenient" I couldn't agree more

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel like a SATA adapter with a built in USB to SATA adapter would be a killer product. Would making any changes or copying large files over much easier.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be so sweet!

    • @frankgile1996
      @frankgile1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I legit was thinking the same thing... Maybe with the USB roughly where the network used to be?

    • @sbpir92i
      @sbpir92i 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or sata moterhboard 🤩

  • @bobsamurai
    @bobsamurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not sure if it was mentioned here, but you can also buy better thermal pads to improve cooling

  • @rotallyPumpered
    @rotallyPumpered 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Putting my hand up for the comparison video. I've got a decent stock PS2 with Free McBoot, but the reliance on DVD-Rs is a bit of a hassle, especially these days when they're harder to come by. I'm interested in finding the best way to launch ISOs without discs.

    • @dmo848
      @dmo848 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me super glad I saved all my blank DVD r disks n the rw

  • @spragzpc1
    @spragzpc1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope laser bear gives the original designer come credit his been selling those for year on eBay & recently upgrade to Amazon

  • @Kyush4
    @Kyush4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Surprised you went with Kaico, they are shady as it gets. And Gamestar adapters also come broken or break easily.
    Great vid though!

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had no idea that Kaico had such a bad reputation. I’m glad I know now though 😅

    • @Kyush4
      @Kyush4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MachoNachoProductions no worries nacho, happy to help!

  • @gumbyx84
    @gumbyx84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to see a quick comparison video between the adapters

  • @W0lfenstrike
    @W0lfenstrike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just curious about how much of an improvement does an HDD brings to shorten loading times compared to the regular discs, especially on data stream heavy games like San Andreas. Then use that baseline to compare how it performs against an SSD (I don't expect much of an improvement due to bottlenecks) and a MicroSD card.

    • @MrGeocym
      @MrGeocym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orders of magnitude, even on a regular SATA HDD load times are seconds. But the bottleneck is the port on the PS2 is IDE so even a HDD is not running at full capacity, that said though, the PS2 was optimised to run from the even slower ODD so anything is an improvement
      I have a 2TB disk in my PS2 and its amazing, i have a bunch of PS2 games on there complete with box art, i use the hard drive as virtual memory cards so i never run out of space to save, i also have PS1 games and a bunch of retro emulators on there too. And all running in a minimum of 480p, some games even run in 720p or 1080i with no modification

    • @tonypham8742
      @tonypham8742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back during the HDloader days booting from the HDD was significantly faster than the disk drive

  • @Fecius
    @Fecius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:11 All of the games that you have there are fantastic! You have a great sense for gaming dude

  • @silenthill4
    @silenthill4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    getting rid of the scratch marks is easy
    just use

    • @kegajitt
      @kegajitt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      USE WHAT

    • @markianclark9645
      @markianclark9645 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kegajitt...silent hill is being funny...in other words use your imagination...really nothing can remove those deep marks...light scratching can be reduced by certain gritty creams like T-cut for car paint..I bought an expensive cream but it's not that great...if you buff scratches away by doing the whole top you'll lose the Blue PS2 logo...and the original finish...so you can't win...and the Chinese stopped making aftermarket moulded shells...which is annoying...

  • @arturowareham1683
    @arturowareham1683 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everything you do is fire Tito, keep up the great work brotha.

  • @dapperfan44
    @dapperfan44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think in my experience, using an SSD does have a minor improvement over HDD. Maybe not full potential, but noticeable. Load times in games like Bully and Crash 4 2001 are near non-existent compared to the same games running off disc.

    • @Zulf85
      @Zulf85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly forgot that Wrath of Cortex was technically Crash 4 lmao. That game may not be the best but it can be an absolute blast to play

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zulf85 I liked it more than Twinsanity back in the day. When I first played Twinsanity I was like, this isn't Crash.

    • @popstar_pills
      @popstar_pills 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the loadtimes will be the same for an HDD compared to an SDD. Both are faster than Discs, OPL has an option to roughly match the Disc speed if it's too fast and causing issues

    • @dapperfan44
      @dapperfan44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@popstar_pills The bottleneck is definitely there, but the comparison video I saw showed load times about 3 seconds faster. At any rate, it's not so much about load times for me as it is cooling by having less moving parts.

  • @djb1ge
    @djb1ge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d honestly want one of these preloaded with all my old favs from that generation over a PS5. Time to start saving up!

  • @LatitudeSky
    @LatitudeSky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got a fat PS2 that seems totally functional. Working on cleaning and updating it as a spring project.

  • @brianmoody9996
    @brianmoody9996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely like to see a comparison video between the ssd and sd adapter.

  • @raikoh05
    @raikoh05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like a comparison of the ease of installation vs the memory card hack

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other than the need to clean and this particular PlayStation2, I actually really like this mod.
    All people need to do is to swap parts which is probably the easiest thing about hardware in general.
    The SSD preparation looks simple enough too which is great.

  • @Bromon655
    @Bromon655 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can’t have the ps2 experience without the iconic jet engine fan. Sounds of my childhood

  • @gribnork
    @gribnork ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm extremely nostalgic for the sound of the stock fan but I just bought another PS2 specifically for the hard drive mod. I can't spring for an SSD yet I don't think but that's definitely endgame.

  • @rickygiese5846
    @rickygiese5846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video and perfect timing! I just bought a PS2 off eBay and I'm waiting for my network adapter to be delivered today, I'm glad you suggested WinHIIP, I just downloaded it and am prepping the harddrive!

  • @PredictableEnigma
    @PredictableEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a huge PS2 disc collection and my system is the first edition that I've had since childhood and its still in great shape. I hesitate to mod it but a quiet fan sure is tempting

  • @yashy2x
    @yashy2x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this channel ❤️ i don't know why but you have gamesack and modern vintage gamer vibes to your channel ❤️❤️❤️

  • @TingFeng77
    @TingFeng77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A con I would add is that the fan connector is rather fragile, it’s very easy to rip the entire connector off the board so you should be careful when doing so

  • @DrBIeed
    @DrBIeed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a cool idea but the additional hardware is only as good as its weakest link. The fact that the original fat only supports ancient IDE means the SSD will be limited to 133mb/s and that you’ll have to pull the drive every-time you want to add anything to it anyway because the PS2 only has USB-1 ports.
    Modded PS2’s are great once they are setup but a bit of a hassle when it comes to anything that isn’t already on board.

  • @Appl3sandgrapes
    @Appl3sandgrapes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd definitely be interested in a comparison! I can pretty much imagine the outcome, but it'll be nice to have a visual up for direct comparison!

  • @powerzx
    @powerzx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You will not notice any overheating in PS2 at all, but your laser will. :)
    At first termopads on CD and DVD drivers will turn into stone, then later CD/DVD drivers will burn out and laser will die.

  • @Fireweasle
    @Fireweasle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the guide on how to set up the Fan. I have the old 3900x model PS2 which has always been extremely loud and I am amazed at how quiet it really is. I had to actually check that the fan was even spinning when I first turned it on 😂

  • @itzkyoi
    @itzkyoi ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS IS WHY I F*@KING LOVE MACHO NACHO!!!!!

  • @Trains-With-Shane
    @Trains-With-Shane ปีที่แล้ว

    not especially playstation 2 related but I used that same StarTech USB to 2.5" Sata adapter a LOT when I worked in my previous I.T. role and I love the thing. I keep one in my laptop bag and one in my desk drawer.

  • @PlamenUzunov1
    @PlamenUzunov1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that console still holds up! There is a tons and tons of great games!

  • @Tobi2x4
    @Tobi2x4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope to do this sometime in the near future, once I get some financial stuff taken care of. My PS2 still works fine, but it'd be nice to give it the SSD upgrade.

  • @nukeamx
    @nukeamx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    im just looking at my ps2 right now thinking about doing the same thing because its absolutely amazing simply said having all the games on the ssd thats inside it makes it very convinient

  • @sann1n
    @sann1n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can You tell how do you take this crazy cool camera shots with the PS2 rotating on the black background? I am impressed by the production quality of Your videos, keep it up!

  • @cajun4christ
    @cajun4christ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still the BEST intro music on TH-cam!

  • @rubenmejia4881
    @rubenmejia4881 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can use rubbing compound for cars to help remove the scratches. If you want the housing to shine you can also wipe it down with armor all.

  • @sergiox03
    @sergiox03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’ve earned yourself a sub and a like. Awesome content can’t wait to watch more.

  • @chaoseagle4275
    @chaoseagle4275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only saw the amazing intro of this vid, and without a second thought i subscribed.

  • @LoveGia
    @LoveGia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i've been looking for a fan upgrade for years! so helpful, thank you!

  • @chachajee
    @chachajee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best intro I have ever seen

  • @geoff3610
    @geoff3610 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey so, you asked about fixing the scratches on top. I was thinking about a technique used in automotive interior restoration where they can take old plastics and run a torch over them lightly to melt the surface back to a glossy finish. They also do it for plastic stadium seats that get baked in the sun and such. obviously if you tried to fill the scratches or something along those lines, it would stick out, unless you perfectly matched the original texture. But running a torch may help even out the color imbalance, and make the scratches blend in a bit more.

  • @Redonepunch
    @Redonepunch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fan is thicker so hopefully it should compensate for the lower RPM. Putting my hand on the back of the PS2, I can feel plenty of air moving with the noctua fan.

  • @shhteeeve
    @shhteeeve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely do the comparison with the memory card adapter, and compare to a dvd based game. Im addicted to those comparison vids!

  • @wakirk
    @wakirk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was watching this the whole time wondering why all the work for a dead system, you neglected to mention up front you can load games onto the SSD. You only mentioned that the optical drive was dead. The only game I ever knew could run from the HDD was Final Fantasy XI. Other then that, Great Video.

  • @JMDeathPunchDD
    @JMDeathPunchDD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was just so freaking Neat to look at, now im way more interested to play more ps2 games and try this out for myself. Amazing Video!

  • @Sun-ut9gr
    @Sun-ut9gr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the day I used to 7v mod my case fans because I couldn't afford a decent fan controller. Positive to 12v, negative to 5v. I made my own controller using a couple toggle switches and some fan connectors I pried from a dead motherboard 😂
    Most fans can run down to half their rated voltage without issue. That said, Noctua makes 5v fans. Fyi, Tito!

  • @bootmii98
    @bootmii98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not the best idea since the sound of the PS2's fan is distinctive and iconic

  • @2_19GamingGoodness
    @2_19GamingGoodness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always, this channel keeps me modding.