I just loved the moment you realised "that blue car" was Aussie Mopar muscle, a Valiant Pacer. It was like it all suddenly made sense why you liked it so much.
Cam Tilley's '69 Chrysler Valiant Pacer. I think it was running a kickarse 265ci Hemi 6 at the time. Last time i looked it had a 340ci V8. Us aussie Mopar guys love this car!
As a Motörhead American, I often feel like I was born on the wrong continent. This racing and summer-nats makes me think they hand out superchargers for Christmas.
Just popped into a blokes shed advertising a supercharger off Facebook. Matey had 37! Didn't take a beer or two to convince him to slap one in my Holden, he had her sorted & tuned in 2 hrs!
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@IWrocker, G'day mate, if you want to see another cool Touring Car Masters race, I reccomend checking out Queensland Raceway 2017 Race 3. Torana vs Falcon to the max!!
John Bowe driver of #18 has over 1,000 career victories in Australian motorsport aswell, he racked up number 1,000 in 2016 and he still hasn’t retired yet
I have very fond memories of watching Bathurst over the last 55 years or so. Ford Cortina Mk1, Morris Cooper S, Holden HK Monaro, Ford Falcon GT-HO, Holden Torana GTR XU-1. The days when the great race as Touring Cars all makes an models in the same race. Drivers having to negotiate traffic, lapping slower cars pure racing testosterone. Today is formulaic and less drama. Ian, you've missed a lot of racing goodness.
Yep, the old days of Bathurst were the good days. My family used to camp at Mcphillime park every easter for the motorbike races. They were grouse, you could actually tell what sort of bike was coming before you saw it from the noise they made. Today everything is same same, not worth watching. Cars or bikes.
It was great to see your reaction to these awesome classic cars. You're quite right Ian that it's so good to see old race cars actually racing for real, not just a tame demo. This is what the mountain used to be like in the best era of motor sport, not just in Australia, but in the world in my opinion. Keep up the great work.
I helped build Tony Karanfilovski's #88 Mustang, these cars are nothing like they were in period. Apart from the various engine sizes amongst the Manufacturers, They are basically NASCAR running gear under the shells. The gearboxes are a G-Force GSR box, The Diff is a custom 9" with quick removal centres for ratio changes at the track. Brakes upfront were floating hat rotors with Brembo 6 pot calipers and 4 spot calipers at the rear. I remember painstakingly getting the measurements and setting up the tramp bars for the Diff and at the first test session Glenn Seton after not even completing 1 lap got us to remove them. He was just incredible to work with. It was an absolute joy to be in the pits and at the track with these guys. The TCM series had great camaraderie. I'm just thankful that I got to be a part of it.
So you must be looking forward to this years Bathurst 6 days of racing of every thing we have on show from Cup cars to Masters to TCR and the Supercars as the Main event.
Blue car is a Chrysler Valiant VF Pacer. They were a locally modified version of the US Chryslers, and had a 225ci slant-6, 2-barrel carb and 3-speed gearbox. Not sure about the "hemi" comment by one of the commentators, as the slant-6 with hemi heads wasn't introduced until the following model, the VG, which featured a 245ci hemi slant-6, and with the E34 option a hotter camshaft and a 4-barrel carby. They were available as a 4-door sedan and 2-door hardtop. However, these were not the ultimate sporty Aussie Valiants. The following model, the Australian-designed VH, saw the introduction of a new 2-door coupe, the Charger. The sporting version was the E38 R/T Six Pack, which saw the 265ci Hemi-6 fitted with triple Weber dual sidedraft carbs and a pretty hot cam. However, it was still limited with a 3-speed gearbox until the E49 Charger, with as well as a fourth gear had an even hotter camshaft and tubular exhaust headers, and challenged the bigger V8s for performance. At their release they were fastest production 6-cylinder car in the world and basically the only locally-made car that was quicker than them was the Ford Falcon XY 351 GTHO Phase 3.
My thoughts also about the 225. However it seems this series allows fitting of different spec motors from the same manufacturer. Went 265, 318 and now 400 it seems. Rules allowed changes to keep even racing in the field. Not well publicised rules to help with the underdog does good excitement and encourage variety.
Having been lucky enough to work for one of the leading teams in this category for a few seasons I can tell you it is the best racing there is. This season is decided at Bathurst November 30th to December the 5 with four TCM races over the six days.
Back in the 90s, my wife and I lived near Mid-Ohio race car course in Ohio. We went to what was then called the Sprint Vintage Grand Prix that had a lot of old muscle (Corvettes, Cobras, Jag XKs, Mustangs, etc). It was some of the most fantastic racing I've ever seen, and the sound... glorious. One of the Jags rolled end over end coming out of turn 1, so you know those guys were going for it. This Aussie racing looks even more intense. Awesome.
@@darrenashley126 Yes had a mate back in 1969 had one , Hem with a massive holley and sports pack the cops used to pull him over just to have a look at the engine , and then another mate who had a RT Hemi Charger in 72 that was putting out more power on the dyno than an SLR 5 litre V8 they had there
Was a Chrysler Valiant PACER. The pacer was also a "sports pack" on US mopars too. Ours was the hemi 6's for this model, with better carbies and exhaust. So not a pure racecar, more like the Commodore SV6 OR Falcon XR6 of it's day.
In 1972 a mate and I were on weekend leave from the RAAF and we hitchhiked to Bathurst to watch Peter Brock win the first Bathurst 500 (miles then) in a Holden Torana GTRXU1. Dick Johnson came 2nd. Unforgettable memories, smells, noises...
Here in Sweden we often have "meets" of up to 5000 American classic cars and we have insane street races like "Stockholm Open". But I do miss this Trans Am style of racing. Agree that the Wombats are insane when it comes to motor sports!
So yeah, that "blue car" was a '69 Valiant with a 500hp straight 6 (265 cu.in.) under the hood. For the last 2 years, he's been running the same car with a Nascar block 358 cu.in. Mopar wedge small block V8 instead of the 6. Has won a couple of races which the 6 could never manage against the 650hp+ of the other cars. Pretty much a 4 door version of a Dodge Dart or Plymouth Duster circa 1968.
He must have been granted a concession to run a 265 as that appears to be a VF Pacer, for which the biggest production option was a 245ci Hemi-6 (not the later VG, which was first to have the 265 Hemi as as option)
@@georgepantazis141that appears to be a VF, for which a 318ci V8 was an option. The following model, the VH had optional 318ci and 340ci V8s. The 360ci V8 wasn't available until the VJ of 1973, and if my memory serves me, the 360 wasn't actually available until the following year. But there is no mistaking a VJ for the VF (or VG) as from the VH onwards the styling was much more rounded.
@@brucelamberton8819 the VF had a slant 225, the 245 was the biggest for the VG, the 265 came out with the VH. I had a VG with a factory fitted 225 in the mid 1970s. Some sort of test mule I'm told.
This is just so good to watch - thanks mate for bringing your reactions to those of us old enough to have been at Bathurst when these cars were racing back in the day. It’s greatly appreciated brother!
Awesome video, you should definitely check out the 2019 touring car masters trophy race at Bathurst with the NZ central muscle cars. 40 of these beasts on track with some of the kiwi cars pushing 800+hp and over 300kph down conrod straight. It’s a trans-tasman race with the most points out of the top 30 cars deciding whether the aussies or kiwis win overall.
made me smile through the whole video seeing you smile... I've had four XY Falcons, three XW's, two LJ Toranas, one LC.. best car I ever had '71 XY ute 4spd 351 cleveland shaker , 9inch LSD. four wheel disc. yada yada.. awesome.. wish I still had it.
Some big names in that field John Bowe, multiple winner of the Great Race Steve Johnson, son of Dick Ryan Hansford, son of champion motorcycle racer, the late Gregg Hansford (who was also a team mate of Alan Moffat and Dick Johnson on 4 wheels during the Group C and Group A eras) Jim Richards, who was co driver to Peter Brock for 6 Bathurst wins
Fantastic wide cross-section of muscle in there, and great racing. The blue Glennan Transport car was a (Chrysler) Valiant Pacer mixing it (valiantly) with the V8s. Cheers.
Mate, this is my all-time favourite racing series. My two favourite cars in the field are that black Mercury Comet (which sadly has to pull out due to costs) and the blue Valiant Pacer (which made the move to V8 a few years ago, but I still love it and understand why) These cars mechanically are very modern and almost as fast as the Supercars, yet still have that old school charm
@@MuscleCarLover as I an not in oz, am not current, but Mr Boughen really, really needs support to get back in! Any word if he's still racing in the comet? Is it televised?
@@hughgordon6435 I only know that the Comet was painted to red with black top in 2020 and he's currently on a Customline build of some sort. I believe TCM is aired on Fox Sports in Australia, but not sure as I don't have pay TV, not entirely sure if it's available online either, which sucks
Ian, Dennis Weaver drove a very similiar car to the Blue Valiant in the Movie "Duel" The dashboard in the Weaver car was identical to a 1968 VE Chrysler Valiant.
Bro.... TCM is by far my favorite category hands down! This is a slightly older race as Steven Johnson (Dick Johnson son) is now in a true blue tribute xd falcon. I highly recommend looking up some of the more recent times... 👍
I remember watching these cars as a kid, when they were considered the pinnacle of touring car technology!! Always great to see the cars of my childhood back at Bathurst!!
Hey Ian, this series has gone from strength to strength over the years. John Bowe, Jim RIchards and Steven Johnson ( son of Dick Johnson ) have raced in the Supercars/ Touring Car Championship series for many years. John Bowe is a former champion and 2 time Bathurst 1000 winner, as is Jim RIchards who has won the great race 7 times. These cars have been fairly well modified to be more reliable as well as allowing for a little bit more parity across the board. I have a couple of mates who run in this championship, one of which is a title contender.
The little bloke at the end is my nephew, Jett Johnson (Dick's grandson). He is 16 now and Leeding the QLD TA2 championship in a 525hp mustang. Remember his name because he is a Champion in the making.
Had to chuckle when you said "hell yes" just as they hit Hell Corner for the first time in anger. It can be a pretty busy 1st corner, probably more so from a standing start. I was there the year of the rock (1980) and when Kevin Bartlett slid along on the roof of the big Camaro in '82 after climbing the hill. No safety cars, just dodge and weave. Have a read of the Wiki entry for the 2014 race. That was one weird event. Bathurst always delivers. Awesome track. Awesome race.
As an aside, it was John Bowe's lap time that Greg Murphy smashed during his Lap Of The Gods in qualifying for the 2003 Bathurst 1000 - can't believe he's still racing (and that he's also four years younger than me!!)
The SLR Torana is running an Australian V8 short block. That engine was indestructible, 5.0 Litre (302 c/i) doing 8000 rpm. Just one of the reasons we fell in love with both the SLR and the A9X Toranas !
The cars that they are building as "replicas" are worth a fortune in themselves. The #88 car is a genuine Boss 351 1969 Mustang, George Nittus back in 2012 was racing a genuine XY Falcon GT HO. Some of these cars are worth a mint in a museum without the racing decals and upgrades.
Mate you need to come down next year for Bathurst week. This video is awesome but you can’t really understand how steep the Mountain is watching it on video. And the sounds as they go across the top is next level. You would love it rock on brother!!!
This is the VF 225 slant six original Pacer unless an engine upgrade is allowed. So even more impressive. Shannon's detail here ; th-cam.com/video/dv-1x1sPiTk/w-d-xo.html Common confusion of the first slant six Pacer and the next model hemi powered ones. Amazing that no one remembered this is a smaller slant six.
No it’s a VF and was the last model with the 225 slant six, the next model VG was the first with the Hemi engine but only to 245 ci the first model that used the 265 ci was the all new design, the VH
The 265 Hemi six was only raced in the two door Charger body from 1971 onwards that I have ever seen any reference to. Not counting the secret VF ute development mule for camoflauged testing of the Charger running gear. Geoghan doing the testing said it worked better than the Charger being lighter.
I remember watching this series as a kid race around Eastern Creek (Sydney Motorsport Park as it is now), must have been about 15 years ago or so, and I just remember the sound was completely overwhelming at that age
This series has been running for a while. Mostly dominated by John Bowe and Jimmy Richards. It's a pretty boss series. They actually are the original cars but they out all modern part in like a modern race car and it's a remarkable transformation.
Hi wirocker Ian I’m watching your reviews from a small town in Western Australia outback called Caiguna the town consists Roadhouse pub motel Great reviews
Another liked subcategory to the Main V8 Supercars was also the Forgotten V8 Ute Racing Series Holden and Ford going at it Me n dad supported the Jesus Racing Team Hahaha Not 100% sure, but pretty sure.. they used the Factory Motors with limited Mods like Suspension and Exhaust
I was a young boy watching a lot of these models race, there is nothing like it today. The V8 supercars are awesome, but they are so clinically engineered today that they just don't carry the beauty and appeal of these old dogs. These classics will never be forgotten.
You can't beat the sound of an old V8, even better with the sound of 25 old V8's. Classic car heaven. The Blue car is a Valiant Pacer (Chrysler).........
I dated a girl in Bathurst, her 18yo son was a petrol head. Being a local kid he always referred to it as "the mount" not mountain or mount panorama. Just an FYI for you Ian. Hope to hear you use the local terminology in future vids. MORE MASTERS PLEASE. Love this series.
It's always awesome to see American race car drivers hitting Bathurst for the first time. Rossi was one the springs to mind. He was no where near the pace, bout 4 seconds behind.
the best in car footage and sound at bathurst i've ever seen is this video, it's classic race cars and it's reverse grid so the faster cars start at the back and have to move through the field. it's titled. yager performance gtho race 3 "no music" and it's a must watch@
Loved it, that was awesome and still is. I remember when I was with a mate in a TE Cortina 250 crossflow on a Friday night drive. Pulled into a servo, early 90s and there was an SLR 5000, HQ Monaro and something else, ( didn't get a look because I had to pick my jaw back up) I think it was a 289 Capri and all were car show worthy ,especially the blown torry Those were the days when you just did laps on the Goldy in Surfers Paradise and a lot of other suburbs back then.
God what fun nights back in the 90s. Doing Donuts at the Spit, the car meets opposite Australia Fair in Southport... street racing on Bermuda drive and The Goldy and Pacific Hwys, burn outs in Cavil Ave. Hahahahahah
@@aussieausdeutschland4245 yep. Pulled up beside the Capri. Droped back to 3rd and we're off and winning in 250 crossflow, big 6. Meanwhile, Capri was cruising in 3rd and back to 2cnd gear said see ya. 🤣. Days when we just raced when it was safe to do so of course.
I think it was 2019 the touring car masters teamed up with the New Zealand equivalent of the same category and done a race together, something like 40 cars ranging from 60’s-80’s muscle cars. There was a black mustang shooting nice large flames and it even managed to hit 305kph down conrod straight, thats faster than the supercars. Also fun fact i seen the other day but steve johnson in that yellow/green mustang had a lap fast enough that he would’ve qualified for the 1000 race up until 2016 I believe if the car had been eligible
Most likely Angus Fogg's mustang(Black with gold trim?) Thing has a Nascar motor in it. There's a handful of local cars that can keep up with it but they're all running Nascar motors I believe.
@@rogerc1596 that name does jog my memory a bit, that mustang was/is something else, watching it live at Bathurst that year was amazing. The flames that thing shot out were like none other. That’s correct though alot of older muscle cars run nascar crate engines as race engines, not like you can complain about it though, the sound still beats alot of the newer generation of race cars. I’m only 23 (I’m sure you’re older) but i do have to say nothing beats the old cars and the older day racing
@@MadLadCheese101 Fastest car down Conrod was Anderson's Yellow XE @ 306km/h. Fogg and Anderson both run 358ci roush yates motors and Anderson's was making over 900hp @ plus 9000rpm in the trophy race with the limiters removed. A few of the kiwi cars run nascar motors but the suspension/brake package isn't as good as the Aussie cars so makes for some interesting racing. Angus Fogg (black and gold mustang) drove the "team kiwi" car in V8 supercars.
I was there for that, I watched Bowe and Fogg box each other's ears in the rain and disappear off into a race of their own - nothing else could keep up with them. It was impressive to see.
I was 11 in 1969 it was the Year when the US landed on the Moon which was Fantastic but one of my fondest memories was at a Local Show in my Hometown and seeing the 69 Valiant Pacer in the same blue with the red stripes but what blew me away for some reason was the front indicators and how they were mounted on the top of each front corner...I thought that was So Modern.
@@Snakelegs-go8qo My Brother was an Astrophysicist and he went to an Observatory in Canberra where almost every day they shoot a Laser at the Moon to measure the distance. It hits a Mirror put on the Moon by the Apollo Astronauts.
@@Snakelegs-go8qo How do you Act Equipment still on the Moon? India and Japan have sent satellites around the Moon and Photographed Apollo Modules still on the Moon. All these people and Countries Acting.
@@keithwilson1554 Buzz Aldrin admitted they never went. He’d know. If your department was skimming $90 million a month out of the American tax department do you reckon I’d be keen to keep up the Lie? It’s a ruse mate, the hardest thing to do is to convince people they’ve been lied to because this lie has been through generations. go look up Eric Dubay
I was lucky enough to meet John Bowe and he was the nicest bloke ever. Also the difference between these cars and modern Supercars is if you bend these cars you feel sad for the car more than the driver :-)
You might be interested to know that in the last 6 years or so... They have released the full Bathurst races on DVD from 1976 to 1996. Really worth watching those early years.
I grew up in the 60's & 70's watching John Bowe, Peter Brock, Bob Jane and Allan Moffatt at Mallala. I remember the weekend that Moffatt's GTHO was stolen early raceday morning and not returned till after the race; abandoned in the Adelaide hills with an apology note (of sorts).
Great series coverage. At 10:08 the blue car is the Australian built Chrysler Valiant Pacer. More detail on the Pacer story here ; th-cam.com/video/dv-1x1sPiTk/w-d-xo.html Always loved how well this underdog car went with its then 225 slant six. Great driver who prepared the car very well to beat so many V8 cars.
I now find the rules allowed him to change to larger hemi six in 245 or 265 spec with triple Weber carbs. Still impressive. Recently may have changed to a V8 to get the win Cameron Tilley deserves.
A breath of fresh air to hear a Seppo get so excited about our great race cars. Thanks mate.. Enjoyed & shared your enthusiasm of this awesome class. Thanks for sharing 👊🏽🇦🇺🇺🇸 My fave,, the big red XB Falcon Coupe #48 I used to drive one when i was 19♥♥♥
You ain’t seen nothing till you’ve seen a V8 Utes race. Sadly canceled a few years ago, but hands down the best and most unique Motorsport event Australia has ever held.
@@craigbennett4963 Sometimes the older stuff is better than the newer stuff. We've probably all owned a GTS Monaro or a GT Falcon we wished we'd held onto. :)
Your pronunciation of "Bathurst" (5min 08sec) is spot on. I worked as a mechanic (77 to 82) with scrutineering after the race carried out at our workshop also as am ambulance officer on the track (82 to 85) and most people, not from Bathurst pronounced it "BathERst" not "BathEst". Bit hard to explain. Cheers.
Love your reaction to the old school supercars , but I hate to break some bad news to you, Ian. This year's Bathurst 1000 won't be held on your birthday, the race has been pushed back to November, unfortunately! Stay safe, mate.
@@bapcorp8303 Yes, there is that. I'm more worried that they might have to shorten the race with a really bad storm, or even call it early. Of course, it's not that we get a bad storm every day, but the likelihood is higher at that time of year.
Yes! Nice one on the NBL catch man...it does indeed stand for National Basketball League... Is one of the top leagues in the world, you should check it out dude...and all of the Aussies playing in the NBA atm...
@@edwardt1941 this sort of racing has boomed in Australia and sport sedan racing all old sports cars muscle cars but they have heaps extra HP big boys LOL
Oww maaann, so many flashbacks. I used to live in Katoomba (in between Bathurst and Sydney) - the traffic jams on Bathurst weekend were insane. I've also driven around the Bathurst track more than once with my ex in his 6cyl Cortina. 6 cylinders in such a small car is almost as good as an XY V8 (Ford person here in case you missed it - lol).
I have been to NASCAR races and Indy car races and local dirt track races. My favorite race by far was the vintage races at Mid Ohio. Every race was a blast to watch. My favorite spot to watch was at the bottom of the corkscrew. Thanks to some veteran race fans I now want to go to the Watkins Glen vintage races, they said that they run old F1 cars through the city on the old road course. Sounds awesome to me. Great video as usual.
Calling these "old muscle" is a bit of a misnomer. The sheet metal is classic, mostly. But underneath, they are highly modern racing cars. Some of them are even LS powered.
You are becoming popular here too mate. Cameron Tilley, the guy who owns the Blue Valiant, just shared your vid on facebook, we all appreciate that you appreciate!
Awesome to watch these cars going round Bathurst again. I remember when they did it as new cars. I also remember when they had every new street car in the Bathurst 500 miles race. Cars like 4 cylinder Ford cortinas, Volkswagen beetles, minis etc. Wonderful memories. Thank you.
Glad you like what we have on offer in Australia... You need to go to Bathurst one day and check out The Mountain... Television flattens it out... It is so much steeper than it looks on TV... You would be even more impressed of how fast these cars and drivers are... It is mind blowing.
Great vid as always. Just to clarify the link between the people shown at the end. Steve Johnson (driving the mustang) is Dick Johnson's son. He beat John Bowe (driving the torana. John is also (I think) Dick's longest serving teammate and drove for Dick Johnson Racing for many years. The lady on the right of shot is Jill, Dick's wife who actually financed a lot of his early motor racing pursuits and the young bloke giving you the thumbs up is Jett, Steve's son and Dicks grandson. He is also quite a good steerer himself. There you go, Aussie motorsports royal family. Haha.
I love that you love this track. The mountain is actually a public road with a 60km speer limit. I mill timber in Bathurst and the mountain is part of the view. The business I work for also sells firewood to campers during race week. Which is in a couple of weeks after being put back because of covid. Also the Big building you see every now and then is a hotel. Its where the wife and I escape to for a weekend away from the kids. You can't make an actual reservation there during race week, you go on a waiting list and if someone from the previous year doen't book a room you advance on the list. Last time I asked it was around $8000 for a standard room for the week.
Ian, it takes a brave man with very large nut's to do what these driver's do, the camera can't do Bathurst justice, it is way steeper than it looks. It is one heck of a place especially across the top, and it's virtually blind up there for the driver's and then in the wet you can only imagine how that would be. Another great video Ian. And that Blue car was a valiant pacer, they were basically a Chrysler.
I really enjoy your Bathurst videos with the old cars. They bring back a lot of memories for me. Mount Panorama racing circuit was established originally for the Australian GP when Phillip Island became unsuitable for it many years ago. I don't mean the current circuit at Phillip Island, in those days it was a street race through the towns. But Mount Panorama was most famous in the late 60s to early 70s for motorbike races at Easter. A four day non stop action event. A bit of trivia for ya, an Australian rider named Jack Forrest, who rode for the BMW factory team, crashed on the last bend leading into Conrod Straight and dislocated his elbow. The bend became known as Forrest's Elbow. Now it is known as Forest Elbow.
The silver car with the orange racing stripes is a Holden HQ (71-74). My favourite classic car, and my first car I owned. Such a beautiful car than handles amazingly well for a bigger car.
Just watched this and glad you love our racing here and that Blue Chrysler in NOW this year 2022 running a V8 and yes this is a regular yearly series run down here glad you like it
I watched a video over the weekend, it was called " A LAP WITH DAD, SCOTT MCLAUGHLIN " was really cool, not saying do a react video as it was only 3 minutes long but was a blast, check it out if you get a chance, you could see how proud his dad was of creating one of this era's best drivers... now taking on Indy car with rookie of the year. Legend. Cheers mate👍
The red and white Holden is a Torana. Driven by John Bowe. I’ve been on a couple hot laps in the mustang he drives. He is a great bloke and a great driver
The other blue vehicle in the paused footage at the end, is Australia's most prized Ford 1971 XY GT HO 351cc phase 3. HO stands for homologated options, a minimum of 500 vehicles needed to be build to qualify for racing, to prevent factory team domination with exclusive specials that privateers couldn't afford. Another vehicle not sold in America was the 1971-74 Holden HQ Monaro GTS 308cc 5.0L. It is the silver car with twin broad orange racing stripes and the rectangular taillights in the bumper bar. Arguably the second most desired Holden after the 1977-79 Torana A9X, a 2 door, fast back version of the red and white, SLR 5000 that John Bowe drove.
Come down for a visit Ian. The Bathurst 1000 is normally held on the 2nd Sunday in October with lots off supporting events in the days leading up to the race. It's a public road so when there's no racing on, you can drive around the track in your own car (admirably at a slightly lower speed.)
Thanks for presenting this and other Aussie Racing. I've been following the races since the 60's. More recent 'Super Cars" ' don't relate anymore because the cars have not been available new for like, 4 years, keep enjoying tho. Regards, Dave C
As an Aussie living in the UK, I am not ashamed to say that watching this brings a lump to the throat. Keep them coming.
I just loved the moment you realised "that blue car" was Aussie Mopar muscle, a Valiant Pacer. It was like it all suddenly made sense why you liked it so much.
Cam Tilley's '69 Chrysler Valiant Pacer. I think it was running a kickarse 265ci Hemi 6 at the time. Last time i looked it had a 340ci V8. Us aussie Mopar guys love this car!
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it would have been nice to see a Charger in there
Never recognized it, thought it was an XD Falcon for a second but the rear was all wrong. lol
That Pacer is steering well. I had a VG 245 and no way did it hug the corners as this VF does. No prob with grunt though.
@@770valiant Big fan of the old Valiants.
As a Motörhead American, I often feel like I was born on the wrong continent. This racing and summer-nats makes me think they hand out superchargers for Christmas.
you should watch some POWERCRUISE
Turbos 😂
I git a Wieand 6-71 for my birthday, does that count?
Just popped into a blokes shed advertising a supercharger off Facebook. Matey had 37! Didn't take a beer or two to convince him to slap one in my Holden, he had her sorted & tuned in 2 hrs!
@@TheDlh69 There is no way this is true, haha.
As an Ozzie that's been living in California for more than 20 years, this brings back so much nostalgia for me. Got a subscribe for this one
Welcome aboard! 😁 thank you for that.
I used to live part time in San Diego, California
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@IWrocker, G'day mate, if you want to see another cool Touring Car Masters race, I reccomend checking out Queensland Raceway 2017 Race 3. Torana vs Falcon to the max!!
@@peteralexander3034 I grew up in Queensland, so I'll check it out thanks
How’s that dunny water over there treating you mate , remember it being only inch’s from a blokes arse when I was living in Palo Alto.
Steve Johnson the winner of the race is Dick Johnson's son with John Bowe in the Torana is 2nd. Dick and John were once teammates from 1988 to 1997.
I do love seeing them keep their numbers too. 17 for Johnson and 18 for Bowe is as synonymous as 05 for Brock, 3 for Dale and 43 for The King
This is an absolute pleasure to watch and relive these Iconic Australian and American V8
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Love it.
John Bowe driver of #18 has over 1,000 career victories in Australian motorsport aswell, he racked up number 1,000 in 2016 and he still hasn’t retired yet
Not to mention his 2 Bathurst wins alongside Dick Johnson, in 1989 and 1994. Plus he had a long career in Formula 5000 before debuting in touring cars
Regarded as one the hardest drivers to pass. They all know he is a master of defensive driving. Just a damn fine driver that's for sure
Legend.
Watched him get his 100th win in tcm, what a bloke!
Your reaction video has made its way onto the touring car masters facebook page. Keep up the awesome reactions!:
I have very fond memories of watching Bathurst over the last 55 years or so. Ford Cortina Mk1, Morris Cooper S, Holden HK Monaro, Ford Falcon GT-HO, Holden Torana GTR XU-1. The days when the great race as Touring Cars all makes an models in the same race. Drivers having to negotiate traffic, lapping slower cars pure racing testosterone. Today is formulaic and less drama. Ian, you've missed a lot of racing goodness.
The “Real Bathurst”…👍👍
Yep, the old days of Bathurst were the good days. My family used to camp at Mcphillime park every easter for the motorbike races. They were grouse, you could actually tell what sort of bike was coming before you saw it from the noise they made. Today everything is same same, not worth watching. Cars or bikes.
It was great to see your reaction to these awesome classic cars. You're quite right Ian that it's so good to see old race cars actually racing for real, not just a tame demo. This is what the mountain used to be like in the best era of motor sport, not just in Australia, but in the world in my opinion. Keep up the great work.
Agreed mate. Back in the day Bathurst was King. So many heartbreaking and wonderful moments. We were truly blessed to be part of it!
I helped build Tony Karanfilovski's #88 Mustang, these cars are nothing like they were in period. Apart from the various engine sizes amongst the Manufacturers, They are basically NASCAR running gear under the shells. The gearboxes are a G-Force GSR box, The Diff is a custom 9" with quick removal centres for ratio changes at the track. Brakes upfront were floating hat rotors with Brembo 6 pot calipers and 4 spot calipers at the rear. I remember painstakingly getting the measurements and setting up the tramp bars for the Diff and at the first test session Glenn Seton after not even completing 1 lap got us to remove them. He was just incredible to work with. It was an absolute joy to be in the pits and at the track with these guys. The TCM series had great camaraderie. I'm just thankful that I got to be a part of it.
So you must be looking forward to this years Bathurst 6 days of racing of every thing we have on show from Cup cars to Masters to TCR and the Supercars as the Main event.
Blue car is a Chrysler Valiant VF Pacer. They were a locally modified version of the US Chryslers, and had a 225ci slant-6, 2-barrel carb and 3-speed gearbox. Not sure about the "hemi" comment by one of the commentators, as the slant-6 with hemi heads wasn't introduced until the following model, the VG, which featured a 245ci hemi slant-6, and with the E34 option a hotter camshaft and a 4-barrel carby. They were available as a 4-door sedan and 2-door hardtop.
However, these were not the ultimate sporty Aussie Valiants. The following model, the Australian-designed VH, saw the introduction of a new 2-door coupe, the Charger. The sporting version was the E38 R/T Six Pack, which saw the 265ci Hemi-6 fitted with triple Weber dual sidedraft carbs and a pretty hot cam. However, it was still limited with a 3-speed gearbox until the E49 Charger, with as well as a fourth gear had an even hotter camshaft and tubular exhaust headers, and challenged the bigger V8s for performance. At their release they were fastest production 6-cylinder car in the world and basically the only locally-made car that was quicker than them was the Ford Falcon XY 351 GTHO Phase 3.
My thoughts also about the 225.
However it seems this series allows fitting of different spec motors from the same manufacturer.
Went 265, 318 and now 400 it seems. Rules allowed changes to keep even racing in the field.
Not well publicised rules to help with the underdog does good excitement and encourage variety.
Although it's not original spec It's running a 265ci Hemi with triple Webers so it's more competitive against the V8s
Having been lucky enough to work for one of the leading teams in this category for a few seasons I can tell you it is the best racing there is. This season is decided at Bathurst November 30th to December the 5 with four TCM races over the six days.
Back in the 90s, my wife and I lived near Mid-Ohio race car course in Ohio. We went to what was then called the Sprint Vintage Grand Prix that had a lot of old muscle (Corvettes, Cobras, Jag XKs, Mustangs, etc). It was some of the most fantastic racing I've ever seen, and the sound... glorious. One of the Jags rolled end over end coming out of turn 1, so you know those guys were going for it. This Aussie racing looks even more intense. Awesome.
The Blue car was a Chrysler Valiant another Aussie muscle car 💪 you'll have to do an episode on it :D
Nothing beats a vali
Valiant Pacer wasn't it?
@@darrenashley126 Yes had a mate back in 1969 had one , Hem with a massive holley and sports pack the cops used to pull him over just to have a look at the engine , and then another mate who had a RT Hemi Charger in 72 that was putting out more power on the dyno than an SLR 5 litre V8 they had there
Was a Chrysler Valiant PACER. The pacer was also a "sports pack" on US mopars too. Ours was the hemi 6's for this model, with better carbies and exhaust.
So not a pure racecar, more like the Commodore SV6 OR Falcon XR6 of it's day.
@@AndyViant I love my XR6 BA in close to mint condition and I'm hoping it will go up in value in a couple of years :)
I agree man, we need an American tcm league here in the USA, imagine these cars flying around The Glen, IMS, or better yet COTA and sears point.
In 1972 a mate and I were on weekend leave from the RAAF and we hitchhiked to Bathurst to watch Peter Brock win the first Bathurst 500 (miles then) in a Holden Torana GTRXU1. Dick Johnson came 2nd. Unforgettable memories, smells, noises...
Here in Sweden we often have "meets" of up to 5000 American classic cars and we have insane street races like "Stockholm Open". But I do miss this Trans Am style of racing. Agree that the Wombats are insane when it comes to motor sports!
Mate, I'm thinking you meant no fowl but FYI, the term wombat here in Oz is a derogatory term, ie, if someone is acting stupid we call them a wombat.
Nice upload Ian. TCM is a firm crowd favourite as you can see and we are very lucky to have it here.
Glad you're enjoying this , it's My favourite racing series ever!!
So yeah, that "blue car" was a '69 Valiant with a 500hp straight 6 (265 cu.in.) under the hood. For the last 2 years, he's been running the same car with a Nascar block 358 cu.in. Mopar wedge small block V8 instead of the 6. Has won a couple of races which the 6 could never manage against the 650hp+ of the other cars. Pretty much a 4 door version of a Dodge Dart or Plymouth Duster circa 1968.
Are they putting out that much hp? wow I thought it was around 450hp
Didn't that valiant come with 318/360
He must have been granted a concession to run a 265 as that appears to be a VF Pacer, for which the biggest production option was a 245ci Hemi-6 (not the later VG, which was first to have the 265 Hemi as as option)
@@georgepantazis141that appears to be a VF, for which a 318ci V8 was an option. The following model, the VH had optional 318ci and 340ci V8s. The 360ci V8 wasn't available until the VJ of 1973, and if my memory serves me, the 360 wasn't actually available until the following year. But there is no mistaking a VJ for the VF (or VG) as from the VH onwards the styling was much more rounded.
@@brucelamberton8819 the VF had a slant 225, the 245 was the biggest for the VG, the 265 came out with the VH. I had a VG with a factory fitted 225 in the mid 1970s. Some sort of test mule I'm told.
This is just so good to watch - thanks mate for bringing your reactions to those of us old enough to have been at Bathurst when these cars were racing back in the day. It’s greatly appreciated brother!
Awesome video, you should definitely check out the 2019 touring car masters trophy race at Bathurst with the NZ central muscle cars. 40 of these beasts on track with some of the kiwi cars pushing 800+hp and over 300kph down conrod straight. It’s a trans-tasman race with the most points out of the top 30 cars deciding whether the aussies or kiwis win overall.
As an Aussie I missed that one. Gonna check it out right now.
made me smile through the whole video seeing you smile... I've had four XY Falcons, three XW's, two LJ Toranas, one LC.. best car I ever had '71 XY ute 4spd 351 cleveland shaker , 9inch LSD. four wheel disc. yada yada.. awesome.. wish I still had it.
That moment that all the cars hit their accelerators at the rolling starts .... the visuals, the sounds, the power, always makes me smile.
Some big names in that field
John Bowe, multiple winner of the Great Race
Steve Johnson, son of Dick
Ryan Hansford, son of champion motorcycle racer, the late Gregg Hansford (who was also a team mate of Alan Moffat and Dick Johnson on 4 wheels during the Group C and Group A eras)
Jim Richards, who was co driver to Peter Brock for 6 Bathurst wins
Fantastic wide cross-section of muscle in there, and great racing. The blue Glennan Transport car was a (Chrysler) Valiant Pacer mixing it (valiantly) with the V8s. Cheers.
Dude after your comment I love Toranas you have gained a new sub as I own a Torana and have owned them for many years
Bro you've gotta check out the Brute Ute series. You love utes, you live love motor racing, it's a match made in heaven. 🇦🇺❤️
Just adding more comments so you definitely look at the brute series
Yep fabulous fun.
The v8 Utes were some of the best racing ever
New Zealands version is the central muscle cars series that joined the touring car masters at bathurst in 2019
Mate, this is my all-time favourite racing series. My two favourite cars in the field are that black Mercury Comet (which sadly has to pull out due to costs) and the blue Valiant Pacer (which made the move to V8 a few years ago, but I still love it and understand why)
These cars mechanically are very modern and almost as fast as the Supercars, yet still have that old school charm
Wondered where the comet had gone?.... sorely missed
@@hughgordon6435 Definitely a fan favourite
@@MuscleCarLover as I an not in oz, am not current, but Mr Boughen really, really needs support to get back in! Any word if he's still racing in the comet? Is it televised?
@@hughgordon6435 I only know that the Comet was painted to red with black top in 2020 and he's currently on a Customline build of some sort.
I believe TCM is aired on Fox Sports in Australia, but not sure as I don't have pay TV, not entirely sure if it's available online either, which sucks
Ian, Dennis Weaver drove a very similiar car to the Blue Valiant in the Movie "Duel" The dashboard in the Weaver car was identical to a 1968 VE Chrysler Valiant.
Bro.... TCM is by far my favorite category hands down! This is a slightly older race as Steven Johnson (Dick Johnson son) is now in a true blue tribute xd falcon. I highly recommend looking up some of the more recent times... 👍
I remember watching these cars as a kid, when they were considered the pinnacle of touring car technology!! Always great to see the cars of my childhood back at Bathurst!!
Hey Ian, this series has gone from strength to strength over the years. John Bowe, Jim RIchards and Steven Johnson ( son of Dick Johnson ) have raced in the Supercars/ Touring Car Championship series for many years. John Bowe is a former champion and 2 time Bathurst 1000 winner, as is Jim RIchards who has won the great race 7 times. These cars have been fairly well modified to be more reliable as well as allowing for a little bit more parity across the board. I have a couple of mates who run in this championship, one of which is a title contender.
The little bloke at the end is my nephew, Jett Johnson (Dick's grandson). He is 16 now and Leeding the QLD TA2 championship in a 525hp mustang. Remember his name because he is a Champion in the making.
Woah thats so cool!!!! Congratulations 🎉 🎈 🎊
Had to chuckle when you said "hell yes" just as they hit Hell Corner for the first time in anger. It can be a pretty busy 1st corner, probably more so from a standing start. I was there the year of the rock (1980) and when Kevin Bartlett slid along on the roof of the big Camaro in '82 after climbing the hill. No safety cars, just dodge and weave. Have a read of the Wiki entry for the 2014 race. That was one weird event. Bathurst always delivers. Awesome track. Awesome race.
I smiled, sighed and laughed when you said 'That Sound'. How true. How pleased you really understand this. Thankyou.
I love this series, they're V8 Supercars in old iron. they're brilliant.
You should definitely take a look at some 90s to early 2000s touring car championships. They bang doors in saloons, FWDs, I think you'd love that.
As an aside, it was John Bowe's lap time that Greg Murphy smashed during his Lap Of The Gods in qualifying for the 2003 Bathurst 1000 - can't believe he's still racing (and that he's also four years younger than me!!)
Your reaction made me a proud Aussie race fan 😄 cheers
The SLR Torana is running an Australian V8 short block. That engine was indestructible, 5.0 Litre (302 c/i) doing 8000 rpm.
Just one of the reasons we fell in love with both the SLR and the A9X Toranas !
Pretty sure the Toranas in TCM run Chev small blocks.
They used to be original race cars but they wouldnt go too hard cause they were worth so much money. Now they build replica's and race proper.
The cars that they are building as "replicas" are worth a fortune in themselves. The #88 car is a genuine Boss 351 1969 Mustang, George Nittus back in 2012 was racing a genuine XY Falcon GT HO. Some of these cars are worth a mint in a museum without the racing decals and upgrades.
Mate you need to come down next year for Bathurst week. This video is awesome but you can’t really understand how steep the Mountain is watching it on video. And the sounds as they go across the top is next level.
You would love it rock on brother!!!
4:47 The Blue car is a Valiant Pacer and if memory serves correctly it has a 265 Hemi 6 cylinder.
3 speed floor shift gearbox
This is the VF 225 slant six original Pacer unless an engine upgrade is allowed. So even more impressive.
Shannon's detail here ;
th-cam.com/video/dv-1x1sPiTk/w-d-xo.html
Common confusion of the first slant six Pacer and the next model hemi powered ones.
Amazing that no one remembered this is a smaller slant six.
@@johnd8892 Ah, okay. I had a 1967 VE with the 225 many moons ago. I sent Ian a pic to check out.
No it’s a VF and was the last model with the 225 slant six, the next model VG was the first with the Hemi engine but only to 245 ci the first model that used the 265 ci was the all new design, the VH
The 265 Hemi six was only raced in the two door Charger body from 1971 onwards that I have ever seen any reference to.
Not counting the secret VF ute development mule for camoflauged testing of the Charger running gear.
Geoghan doing the testing said it worked better than the Charger being lighter.
I remember watching this series as a kid race around Eastern Creek (Sydney Motorsport Park as it is now), must have been about 15 years ago or so, and I just remember the sound was completely overwhelming at that age
This series has been running for a while. Mostly dominated by John Bowe and Jimmy Richards. It's a pretty boss series. They actually are the original cars but they out all modern part in like a modern race car and it's a remarkable transformation.
Hi wirocker Ian I’m watching your reviews from a small town in Western Australia outback called Caiguna the town consists Roadhouse pub motel Great reviews
Another liked subcategory to the Main V8 Supercars was also the Forgotten V8 Ute Racing Series
Holden and Ford going at it
Me n dad supported
the Jesus Racing Team
Hahaha
Not 100% sure, but pretty sure.. they used the Factory Motors with limited Mods like Suspension and Exhaust
I was a young boy watching a lot of these models race, there is nothing like it today. The V8 supercars are awesome, but they are so clinically engineered today that they just don't carry the beauty and appeal of these old dogs. These classics will never be forgotten.
You can't beat the sound of an old V8, even better with the sound of 25 old V8's. Classic car heaven. The Blue car is a Valiant Pacer (Chrysler).........
Pre 6 pack charger
I dated a girl in Bathurst, her 18yo son was a petrol head. Being a local kid he always referred to it as "the mount" not mountain or mount panorama. Just an FYI for you Ian. Hope to hear you use the local terminology in future vids. MORE MASTERS PLEASE. Love this series.
I've been watching these guys go at it for
a long time . My favorite series
It's always awesome to see American race car drivers hitting Bathurst for the first time. Rossi was one the springs to mind. He was no where near the pace, bout 4 seconds behind.
the best in car footage and sound at bathurst i've ever seen is this video, it's classic race cars and it's reverse grid so the faster cars start at the back and have to move through the field. it's titled. yager performance gtho race 3 "no music" and it's a must watch@
For me, the best in car footage at Bathurst will always be Peter Williamson in the Toyota Celica.
You loving our motorsport is fantastic to be a part of. Thanks.
Loved it, that was awesome and still is. I remember when I was with a mate in a TE Cortina 250 crossflow on a Friday night drive. Pulled into a servo, early 90s and there was an SLR 5000, HQ Monaro and something else, ( didn't get a look because I had to pick my jaw back up) I think it was a 289 Capri and all were car show worthy ,especially the blown torry
Those were the days when you just did laps on the Goldy in Surfers Paradise and a lot of other suburbs back then.
God what fun nights back in the 90s. Doing Donuts at the Spit, the car meets opposite Australia Fair in Southport... street racing on Bermuda drive and The Goldy and Pacific Hwys, burn outs in Cavil Ave. Hahahahahah
@@aussieausdeutschland4245 yep. Pulled up beside the Capri. Droped back to 3rd and we're off and winning in 250 crossflow, big 6. Meanwhile, Capri was cruising in 3rd and back to 2cnd gear said see ya. 🤣. Days when we just raced when it was safe to do so of course.
@@jeffwagner8576 yeah 2 fiddy Sporty Cortys... love em, that was my weapon pf choice in the 90s too.
What's even better is that when you go and watch live you can get up and close to the cars and chat with drivers - very accessible
Love the reaction to aussie muscle racing - we enjoy it muchly down under
Spread the good word brother,these guys make us proud.
I think it was 2019 the touring car masters teamed up with the New Zealand equivalent of the same category and done a race together, something like 40 cars ranging from 60’s-80’s muscle cars. There was a black mustang shooting nice large flames and it even managed to hit 305kph down conrod straight, thats faster than the supercars.
Also fun fact i seen the other day but steve johnson in that yellow/green mustang had a lap fast enough that he would’ve qualified for the 1000 race up until 2016 I believe if the car had been eligible
Most likely Angus Fogg's mustang(Black with gold trim?) Thing has a Nascar motor in it. There's a handful of local cars that can keep up with it but they're all running Nascar motors I believe.
@@rogerc1596 that name does jog my memory a bit, that mustang was/is something else, watching it live at Bathurst that year was amazing. The flames that thing shot out were like none other. That’s correct though alot of older muscle cars run nascar crate engines as race engines, not like you can complain about it though, the sound still beats alot of the newer generation of race cars. I’m only 23 (I’m sure you’re older) but i do have to say nothing beats the old cars and the older day racing
@@MadLadCheese101 Fastest car down Conrod was Anderson's Yellow XE @ 306km/h.
Fogg and Anderson both run 358ci roush yates motors and Anderson's was making over 900hp @ plus 9000rpm in the trophy race with the limiters removed.
A few of the kiwi cars run nascar motors but the suspension/brake package isn't as good as the Aussie cars so makes for some interesting racing.
Angus Fogg (black and gold mustang) drove the "team kiwi" car in V8 supercars.
@@darianistead2239 the kiwis also get more lenience in terms of mod rules in there tcm
I was there for that, I watched Bowe and Fogg box each other's ears in the rain and disappear off into a race of their own - nothing else could keep up with them. It was impressive to see.
Thks Ian. That was a fantastic race. Keep up the great vids!!!!
I was 11 in 1969 it was the Year when the US landed on the Moon which was Fantastic but one of my fondest memories was at a Local Show in my Hometown and seeing the 69 Valiant Pacer in the same blue with the red stripes but what blew me away for some reason was the front indicators and how they were mounted on the top of each front corner...I thought that was So Modern.
No one ever landed on the moon... But i agree with your Valiant Pacer comments at least 😁
@@Snakelegs-go8qo My Brother was an Astrophysicist and he went to an Observatory in Canberra where almost every day they shoot a Laser at the Moon to measure the distance. It hits a Mirror put on the Moon by the Apollo Astronauts.
@@keithwilson1554 Actornaughts Keith.
@@Snakelegs-go8qo How do you Act Equipment still on the Moon? India and Japan have sent satellites around the Moon and Photographed Apollo Modules still on the Moon. All these people and Countries Acting.
@@keithwilson1554 Buzz Aldrin admitted they never went. He’d know. If your department was skimming $90 million a month out of the American tax department do you reckon I’d be keen to keep up the Lie? It’s a ruse mate, the hardest thing to do is to convince people they’ve been lied to because this lie has been through generations. go look up Eric Dubay
Absolutely love the Masters. Old school cool. Seen them a few times out at Sandown raceway. So entertaining.
I was lucky enough to meet John Bowe and he was the nicest bloke ever. Also the difference between these cars and modern Supercars is if you bend these cars you feel sad for the car more than the driver :-)
He is one the nicest motorsport guys I've ever met also
You might be interested to know that in the last 6 years or so... They have released the full Bathurst races on DVD from 1976 to 1996. Really worth watching those early years.
Watch some of the New Zealand master cars as we are allowed to run more power than they do in Australia. Check out Angus Fogg mustang
The driver of the #18 Holden Torana John Bowe does actually post complete race onboard's onto here from that Torana, well worth checking out.
The Valiant Pacer has a V8 swap in it now.
I grew up in the 60's & 70's watching John Bowe, Peter Brock, Bob Jane and Allan Moffatt at Mallala.
I remember the weekend that Moffatt's GTHO was stolen early raceday morning and not returned till after the race; abandoned in the Adelaide hills with an apology note (of sorts).
Great series coverage.
At 10:08 the blue car is the Australian built Chrysler Valiant Pacer.
More detail on the Pacer story here ;
th-cam.com/video/dv-1x1sPiTk/w-d-xo.html
Always loved how well this underdog car went with its then 225 slant six. Great driver who prepared the car very well to beat so many V8 cars.
I now find the rules allowed him to change to larger hemi six in 245 or 265 spec with triple Weber carbs.
Still impressive.
Recently may have changed to a V8 to get the win Cameron Tilley deserves.
That slant six is legendary, especially in the hands of tilly
Looks like a VJ???? not sure. But I do know that chrysler never made a valiant VD ;)
@@johnmurray587 The link to the Shannons car history shows the body is a VF. Yes a few V codes skipped as did Holden.
A breath of fresh air to hear a Seppo get so excited about our great race cars. Thanks mate.. Enjoyed & shared your enthusiasm of this awesome class. Thanks for sharing 👊🏽🇦🇺🇺🇸
My fave,, the big red XB Falcon Coupe #48 I used to drive one when i was 19♥♥♥
This is a thing of beauty.
You ain’t seen nothing till you’ve seen a V8 Utes race. Sadly canceled a few years ago, but hands down the best and most unique Motorsport event Australia has ever held.
The blue car you mentioned looked like an old Valiant to me. They became Chrysler. We called the old Valiants "mafia staff cars"
It was a Chrysler Valiant. Sometimes known as Valiant by Chrysler.
Is it not cool to c the younger ones appreciate old school cool
@@craigbennett4963 Sometimes the older stuff is better than the newer stuff. We've probably all owned a GTS Monaro or a GT Falcon we wished we'd held onto. :)
@@the-flatulator wish I still had my 265 VH Charger and VG Regal hardtop- that one had a 265 K12 cop motor in, basically a 2 barrel R/T engine.
@@rossbrumby1957 Yep, hindsight is a wonderful thing. Might be worth a small fortune now.
Your pronunciation of "Bathurst" (5min 08sec) is spot on. I worked as a mechanic (77 to 82) with scrutineering after the race carried out at our workshop also as am ambulance officer on the track (82 to 85) and most people, not from Bathurst pronounced it "BathERst" not "BathEst". Bit hard to explain. Cheers.
Love your reaction to the old school supercars , but I hate to break some bad news to you, Ian. This year's Bathurst 1000 won't be held on your birthday, the race has been pushed back to November, unfortunately! Stay safe, mate.
The Great race is on December 5th 2021
@@bapcorp8303 Hopefully they wont get a big storm during the race.
@@daveg2104 Let's hope it's a dry race, I'm not looking forward to getting wet
@@bapcorp8303 Yes, there is that. I'm more worried that they might have to shorten the race with a really bad storm, or even call it early. Of course, it's not that we get a bad storm every day, but the likelihood is higher at that time of year.
@@daveg2104 I agree
Yes! Nice one on the NBL catch man...it does indeed stand for National Basketball League... Is one of the top leagues in the world, you should check it out dude...and all of the Aussies playing in the NBA atm...
This is how racing used to be everything against everyone 🤣😂
And i really liked it compared to the formula nature of Supercars
@@edwardt1941 this sort of racing has boomed in Australia and sport sedan racing all old sports cars muscle cars but they have heaps extra HP big boys LOL
Oww maaann, so many flashbacks. I used to live in Katoomba (in between Bathurst and Sydney) - the traffic jams on Bathurst weekend were insane. I've also driven around the Bathurst track more than once with my ex in his 6cyl Cortina. 6 cylinders in such a small car is almost as good as an XY V8 (Ford person here in case you missed it - lol).
Love the TCM, pure muscle.
You could also check out the "Aussie Racing Cars". 1/2 sized cars, 1.3L, I4, 11500rpm rippers.👌🏽
I have been to NASCAR races and Indy car races and local dirt track races. My favorite race by far was the vintage races at Mid Ohio. Every race was a blast to watch. My favorite spot to watch was at the bottom of the corkscrew. Thanks to some veteran race fans I now want to go to the Watkins Glen vintage races, they said that they run old F1 cars through the city on the old road course. Sounds awesome to me. Great video as usual.
Calling these "old muscle" is a bit of a misnomer. The sheet metal is classic, mostly. But underneath, they are highly modern racing cars. Some of them are even LS powered.
And some of them have Nascar engines.
I don't think any are LS powered all classic engines, all old specs no F Injection
None of these cars are LS powered. All use carburettors, they driveline have to comply in most part to the standard of day they raced.
@@b577960 I was reading thought that they do have parity adjustments to keep the racing even which would be needed to keep that variety in the field.
You are becoming popular here too mate. Cameron Tilley, the guy who owns the Blue Valiant, just shared your vid on facebook, we all appreciate that you appreciate!
Awesome to watch these cars going round Bathurst again. I remember when they did it as new cars. I also remember when they had every new street car in the Bathurst 500 miles race. Cars like 4 cylinder Ford cortinas, Volkswagen beetles, minis etc. Wonderful memories. Thank you.
Glad you like what we have on offer in Australia... You need to go to Bathurst one day and check out The Mountain... Television flattens it out... It is so much steeper than it looks on TV... You would be even more impressed of how fast these cars and drivers are... It is mind blowing.
Great vid as always. Just to clarify the link between the people shown at the end. Steve Johnson (driving the mustang) is Dick Johnson's son. He beat John Bowe (driving the torana. John is also (I think) Dick's longest serving teammate and drove for Dick Johnson Racing for many years. The lady on the right of shot is Jill, Dick's wife who actually financed a lot of his early motor racing pursuits and the young bloke giving you the thumbs up is Jett, Steve's son and Dicks grandson. He is also quite a good steerer himself. There you go, Aussie motorsports royal family. Haha.
I love that you love this track. The mountain is actually a public road with a 60km speer limit.
I mill timber in Bathurst and the mountain is part of the view. The business I work for also sells firewood to campers during race week. Which is in a couple of weeks after being put back because of covid.
Also the Big building you see every now and then is a hotel. Its where the wife and I escape to for a weekend away from the kids. You can't make an actual reservation there during race week, you go on a waiting list and if someone from the previous year doen't book a room you advance on the list. Last time I asked it was around $8000 for a standard room for the week.
Ian, it takes a brave man with very large nut's to do what these driver's do, the camera can't do Bathurst justice, it is way steeper than it looks.
It is one heck of a place especially across the top, and it's virtually blind up there for the driver's and then in the wet you can only imagine how that would be.
Another great video Ian.
And that Blue car was a valiant pacer, they were basically a Chrysler.
I really enjoy your Bathurst videos with the old cars. They bring back a lot of memories for me. Mount Panorama racing circuit was established originally for the Australian GP when Phillip Island became unsuitable for it many years ago. I don't mean the current circuit at Phillip Island, in those days it was a street race through the towns. But Mount Panorama was most famous in the late 60s to early 70s for motorbike races at Easter. A four day non stop action event. A bit of trivia for ya, an Australian rider named Jack Forrest, who rode for the BMW factory team, crashed on the last bend leading into Conrod Straight and dislocated his elbow. The bend became known as Forrest's Elbow. Now it is known as Forest Elbow.
Throughly enjoyed that thx Ian 👍🏼.
The silver car with the orange racing stripes is a Holden HQ (71-74). My favourite classic car, and my first car I owned. Such a beautiful car than handles amazingly well for a bigger car.
Just watched this and glad you love our racing here and that Blue Chrysler in NOW this year 2022 running a V8 and yes this is a regular yearly series run down here glad you like it
I watched a video over the weekend, it was called " A LAP WITH DAD, SCOTT MCLAUGHLIN " was really cool, not saying do a react video as it was only 3 minutes long but was a blast, check it out if you get a chance, you could see how proud his dad was of creating one of this era's best drivers... now taking on Indy car with rookie of the year. Legend.
Cheers mate👍
That video is on my list
@@IWrocker Oh and a huge congratulations on 30,000 subs mate... you're a Legend 👍
The red and white Holden is a Torana. Driven by John Bowe. I’ve been on a couple hot laps in the mustang he drives. He is a great bloke and a great driver
Cheers for this video Ian, great lunch break video for me 👍🏻😊
The other blue vehicle in the paused footage at the end, is Australia's most prized Ford 1971 XY GT HO 351cc phase 3. HO stands for homologated options, a minimum of 500 vehicles needed to be build to qualify for racing, to prevent factory team domination with exclusive specials that privateers couldn't afford. Another vehicle not sold in America was the 1971-74 Holden HQ Monaro GTS 308cc 5.0L. It is the silver car with twin broad orange racing stripes and the rectangular taillights in the bumper bar. Arguably the second most desired Holden after the 1977-79 Torana A9X, a 2 door, fast back version of the red and white, SLR 5000 that John Bowe drove.
Come down for a visit Ian. The Bathurst 1000 is normally held on the 2nd Sunday in October with lots off supporting events in the days leading up to the race. It's a public road so when there's no racing on, you can drive around the track in your own car (admirably at a slightly lower speed.)
Thanks for presenting this and other Aussie Racing. I've been following the races since the 60's. More recent 'Super Cars"
' don't relate anymore because the cars have not been available new for like, 4 years, keep enjoying tho. Regards, Dave C