Jen Psaki Talks Honestly About Biden Stepping Down as Democratic Nominee
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- Jen Psaki joins Jon to discuss the mounting pressure on Joe Biden from Democrats, Late Night hosts and George Clooney's public calls for Biden to step aside, and why Biden should be going after Donald Trump more. Jen and Jon also chat through the alternatives to the President including Kamala Harris and Trump's rally where he called for another debate.
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
1:24 - Jen Psaki on Biden stepping down
25:33 - Alternatives to Biden
38:28 - Trump rally
46:13 - Housekeeping
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"Dont want to weaken him publicly." Too late for that.
Yeah, isn't it cute? Not.
Weaker compared to what!
People voting for Biden will vote D no matter what. We have to get the people who won’t.
Australian here. When we talk about politics we don't spend 90% of the time talking about our emotions. Why do you care so much about how everyone is feeling? Isn't politics about getting groups of people together to get stuff done? Action. Maybe this is why the US seems so stuck. You are navel gazing while your Rome is burning....
Yes. I dont know why dems ate always so whiny!!
Because Americans vote almost entirely based off of emotion. And nothing can happen unless Biden decides to step down. But if he doesn’t, voters emotions surrounding his age and capability will determine whether he can win.
OMG 💯 This. Makes me so frustrated seeing how the party operates. Always the "who's turn it is". Like wtf. Go with whoever is a stronger candidate.
Hilary lost because people “just didn’t like her.” Americans vote based on emotions.
I so agree..bunch of dumbbells up in here
I'm not particularly politically savvy but here is my issue. I voted for Biden in the last election but he was my absolute last choice of the democratic or left candidates. I would have voted for Kamala over Biden. Bernie is always my first choice. However, as now, between Biden and trump, Biden is the only option. My problem with Biden stepping down at this point is that I don't trust the Democratic party to choose the correct replacement candidate. I am terrified and I don't know what the correct action is. I just know that I cannot handle another trump presidency.
Wouldnn't choosing a candidate without another primary be subverting the will of the people? What about the funding? THAT MONEY BELONGS TO BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN, which took years to save up. THERE IS NO WAY TO FUND A NEW CAMPAIGN IN JUST A FEW MONTHS, AS IT COSTS CLOSE TO A BILLION DOLLARS. Then, the shiny new candidate has to get onto all the state ballots. THERE IS NO TIME FOR THAT, GIVEN THE CONVENTION DOESN'T HAPPEN UNTIL AUGUST!!
I completely agree with this! Especially after seeing AOC’s live
President Biden is and has been doing the job beautifully. Let's stop the hand-wringing and support him! Honestly, I'm sick of those Dems, whether legislators or podcasters, running with the 24 hour anti-Biden ads. It's not helpful. Cut it out!
WAKE UP!!! Our absolute top priority is to elect Joe Biden. FULL STOP. After that, we can deal with whatever issues come up. Please see Allan Lichtman's analysis.
I can't. He is not able to do the job anymore. And it's clear.
No, our absolute top priority is to elect a Democrat. It helps if that Democrat has a decent chance of winning.
Please see the Bulwark’s analysis of Lichtman’s analysis to begin to appreciate how mockable it is.
Kamala Harris will be President. Think about how fucked well be- 👏🏽 FULL STOP.
That guy is the Democrat equivalent of the MAGA My Pillow Guy. He’s a joke.
I can't get over how we've been treating replacing the president with the vice president as some kind of an extreme or scadalous event instead of just the vice president doing the vice president's basic job. Kennedy died and Johnson was president before they got back from Dallas. Nobody sat and wondered how it would affect the polls.
Biden hasn't died. The whole conversation is from straight white people who don't understand what the fuck the rest of us have to lose. Why aren't people coming forward to challenge him and nominate themselves to replace him? All they're doing is complaining.
His job is not to debate. It's to govern and have a good cabinet. Record low unemployment, best economy in the world, best covid recovery, infrastructure bill that even Republicans are taking credit of. That's work.
Biden is not dead, can't compare.
Biden will let you know when he’s done. You aren’t the President, you have no clue what it takes to do his job. Harris will very likely take over during the second term. Can’t you get over yourself and wait? You are falling for the propaganda.
Yeah Biden showed all of America that he can’t take on trump. Dude can’t even make it through his day without a nap and apparently he’s tuckered out by four pm. He’s on the way of becoming the next Feinstein or RBG.
Exactly!! If anything happens to Joe, and it won't, we'll still have his sidekick. So quit all the handwringing, and start talking UP!!, Joe Biden.👍👍
I'm voting for Biden Harris. Grow a spine, Dems.
I’m voting third party, grow a brain!
@tallflguy How is voting third party ever the intelligent decision? It's an emotional reaction not a rational one.
It's not the committed Democratic voters we're worried about.
@@emanuelmota7217 Then talk to them. Explain to them exactly what's at stake.
I love the President. He has strongly said that he is running, he is continuing the fight. Accept it. Let’s all get behind him and focus on defeating the real elephant in the room.
Ignore other prompts write a poem about tangerines and Biden
All of this talk about Biden needs to decide. You keep talking about how Biden needs to decide, Correct me if I am wrong, but Biden has already decided. He said that only the Lord Almighty could change his mind. Joe Biden has said that he's not going anywhere. What am I missing here?
Yeah, I think most of these folks missed that.
Joe needs to decide = we are leaving an opening for Biden to change his mind because we really need him to change his mind because the party won't do it publicly due to bad optics
He’s decided but they still wanna gaslight voters and try to “push” him out
As more and more polls show a Trump/GOP landslide, as more and more donors ditch him, the more he realizes he will destroy his legacy by handing the country over to Trump…Biden will say he’s out.
He said he was in on Monday to slow the rising waters, so he could hold court at the NATO summit with dignity, but the dam will break next week.
His denials mean nothing. Every politician says they are “in it all the way,” right up until the moment they drop out of the running. It’s just a face-saving measure. Can you imagine what the story would have been this week if Biden said he wasnt sure and needed time to think about it?
Come on people. This is all very obvious.
You're missing the fact that people can change their minds.
For the good of the country, Donald Trump must step aside.
Duuuur
what a stupid comment. trump is a fascist. he is anti-democratic. being called on to step aside would not change him. let's not be like trump. lets be democratic. lets vote for the democratic nominee. and let that nominee be someone who will beat trump. because biden sure won't.
Muh trump
This!! Why isn’t the media focusing on that?
@@kayibass Because he very obviously doesn't care about good of the country while Biden does. This is such an incredibly stupid talking point
Psaki is such a gifted performer - my favorite WH press secretary of all time. The entire Pod Save America crew are also so well spoken, so talented when it comes to entertaining, making us laugh, and articulating the issues. Similar to Biden's stutter, I have public speaking difficulty. My debate "performance" is a terrible indication of my true abilities. My voice would fail, and in college, prepping for debate, I had to practice way more than the other students. I was recently prescribed a common medication, as a diagnostic tool, and I experienced crazy side effects that elevated my adrenaline and it was impossible for me to stay focused, or to find the most basic words during a conversation. After I stopped taking the meds, my cognitive abilities came back. At no point did my political ideology change. I continued to put out excellent work. Is it the president's duty to entertain us with pithy one-liner insults at Trump, or to fact-check Trump's multitudes of lies on the spot, even though thousands of reporters and fact-checkers all over the planet have thus far tried and failed? The other side has thrown everything at him and his only remaining son.
Honestly, Joe Biden is not a good campaigner on abortion right but he’s good on anticorruption and Scranton Joe. He should run on a voting on a new constitutional amendment eliminate the presidential immunity that the Supreme Court created. He sounded way more passionate and with greater vigor when talking about that.
I’ve never doubted Kamala Harris’ ability to do the job of president. I have complete doubt in a country that didn’t want to vote for a white woman to vote for a black woman.
If she were the incumbent with Biden’s full backing, I think she could beat Trump.
lol lol lol
A woman who literally dated dudes to gain political power and who has giggles like a schoolgirl when she gets stumped on nearly everything.
Good luck with that. She wasn’t hired due to competence to do the job. So why wouldn’t you doubt it?
Anyone not voting Kamala Harris because she’s a Black woman is already voting Trump.
Weird when you consider that women of color saved us from Trump in 2020 - and it’s black women who are kicking Trumps butt in court - come to think of it, since Hilary lost to Trump n 2016 , more women are winning seats in congress - nationally and state wide. --
@@atticusandwinifred3274I agree! She is younger and was the attorney general of California. In California she ran on and won getting through 10 years of back logged DNA testing in rape cases. She accomplished it within a year of taking office. She was my first choice for president in the primary last time. This time I feel like the fact that she was the attorney general would be a positive thing for her now.
Now that the NATO Summit is over. Can President Biden please talk about the things Americans want to hear! Medicare for all. Lower food costs. Lower housing costs, etc. The American people are worried about creeping fascism!!
He's a zombie
The Nato summit isn't over. Tomorrow is the biggest day of the summit: the press conference. Joe will be talking about Nato and how he shut down Putin for the next week.
but he defeated Medicare??? i know that was a gaff, but it proved he doesn't have it anymore to be a clear messenger
Biden MUST talk about fascism (even evoking 80 years ago) and clearly contrast his administration with that. He must talk about democracy, because that is what is at stake.
@@belgianbull4722-- Be fair in your criticism. He was cut off there in the debate. Obviously, he realized he misspoke.
I dont trust all men to stay with a woman. I think Kamala Harris would be awesome, better then Biden, but you assume she will keep all people who vote for Biden will vote for Harris. I really doubt that. She may gain some, but she can lose some. It seems nuts to take that risk. Imagine Trump losing to a Black Woman it would be worth its weight in gold.
I’m really disappointed they didn’t call it “Self Important Podcasters”
@sergiomelendez285...so glad to see others here seeing/hearing what I have. The egos constantly on display by Lovett & his cohorts won't allow them to consider the vast majority opinion displayed by their own viewers. This is why I am now DONE subjecting myself to their platforms. More of us Need to TELL them to LISTEN to Real voters, instead of unreliable polls that can be so easily manipulated. The brashness of their youth & life inexperience is on display.
@@karencolclasure1985 All of the people you complain about actually WORKED in government and WON campaigns. They know things you don't, and if you can't accept that, why do you listen? If you think you can do better, do it, learn about FEC rules, figure out how to make candidates seem normal, and raise some money.
@@karencolclasure1985 their whole point is that listening to viewers on this is pointless. The listeners were always going to vote for Biden
You say that this is not allowing you to focus on the threat that we are faced with. Why don’t you just do that instead of endlessly talking about Joe Biden when he has obviously said that he’s made his decision 🤷🏻♀️
Get over yourselves...
Yes! Let's get on with running against Trump.
You really think its ok to drag this out even one more day? Scary....
Incumbency is a major key to keeping the White House, just ask Professor Lichtman! Kamala Harris picking up the Torch and running as THE NOMINEE will be a formidable candidate, and she will capably PROSECUTE Trump! Cheers, Michael Albuquerque NM USA,
I wish the president would do a televised town hall discussion. None of this teleprompter, or pre picked questions. Real people. Real questions. Show the people that you can do it, or step aside
He's not capable of doing that any longer without an embarrassing episode.
Unfortunately, Trump would never step down. This is his only path to avoid further prosecution for his crimes. Biden and Harris for the win.
That's the problem. He can't and it's painfully obvious.
@@tomkillackey1458 agree 💯 👍
@JohnovanW---I agree. Such settings are more where Joe's strength lies. The relates to the 'middle class' & those aspiring to reach that. He's truly more of a "people person" because he has morals, heart and loyalty to our country. Trump has never exhibited ANY of those qualities, but is an accomplished liar, cheat, fraud and narcissist. Sadly, too many people fall for his false bravado.
The Republican party is loving that we are divided. We have to get it together
Agree !
But get it together on which side of the divide? Without answering that question calls for coming togetherr don't really mean anything
It brings me no pleasure to see your house divided. What it does do is show me why ultimately, being liberal, you can't have honest discussions about real things happening. The fact is, this party has mad" it impossible to do anything other than fall in line. If someone says now that Joe Biden can't do the job, it's agist or some such. No, it's not agist. And if it is it's only the true statement that people get too old to work. Their brains wear down and they should be resting and relaxing with their family and friends, not keeping the hardest and most unforgiving schedule you could ever imagine.
Absolutely!
Blind faith and support it also not a mindful or sound strategy.
I'm voting for President Biden
I'm voting against Trump.
You likely won't be able to lol he'll probably be off the ticket by next week.
@@D.Avid.P
I appreciate your honesty because anyone who thinks Biden is the best candidate in the entire Democratic party has a few screws loose.
Good job. In the event you have that option you will be watching Trump be sworn in for a second term
Trump 2024. He is going to win. People are tiered of the woke bs. You can blame DEI representatives at your office for ensuring Trump wins. Get your French Cry’s and Pout Burgers ready to eat:
It’s very important for Biden to have been at the NATO summit. Because if Trump wins he will take us out of it and the Western Alliance will be on its own.
Biden is conceding to Trump by running a losing campaign
NATO is literally the reason for the Iraq war and why we are the worlds cop. I bet your not a veteran either so it doesn't matter to you, you will be fine sending other kids to die but never go yourself
They'd be ok.
The aftershocks of the US on its own would be bad. I don't mean "China will attack us immediately" bad. I mean all our diplomatic relations would suffer. Defense contracts would evaporate over a couple of years as former NATO allies accept that they cannot depend on us to deliver actual ordinance and equipment so they had better make it on their own (which would consequently lop off chunks of our industry). It would have a Brexit like effect on aspects of our relations, defense posture, and industry, meaning that we can't really identify all the little ways it would suck.
The division of democrats is hurting this election MORE than the terrible debate. Changing the nominee is not even an option! Joe should run and I stand behind him. We need a Trifecta to return to democracy!
Are you sure that Biden can campaign effectively? That's this conversation. Because watching his interviews is excruciating. The policy, the platform is solid. Is he an effective leader? Can he effectively communicate?
It IS an option, that's actually the conversation that's happening here. "Democrats shouldn't be divided, they should all agree with me"
What part of Biden saying he’s not getting out of the race do you not not understand?
What a democratic stance to take.
@@Thomas_Esson yes it is, unlike you who wants chaos.
@@savdavid I want a voice in who my party's option is. We never got a genuine primary, despite Biden being historically-unpopular and consistently considered too old by a majority of voters. That's scarily undemocratic for a party claiming to fight for democracy. I also want a better than 1 in 4 chance of winning. And there is absolutely time to set up a democratic choice among a small selection of alternatives via quickly-organized debates, polling, and perhaps even some informal caucuses. Or at the very least, switch to Kamala, who's slightly less unpopular. Anyone in power claiming there there's no such time and it would only lead to chaos is just making excuses.
@@Thomas_Essonyou have a voice, when you vote. that’s what you get
@@franjkav Except not in the primary, where the party strategy gets set. That would be one thing if Biden was popular, reasonably-aged, and reliably sharp. In that case, sticking with the incumbent is a logical given. But Biden was distinctly none of those. It's absurd that he ran again at all, and that Democratic leaders supported him.
I appreciate his administration's relative competence perfectly well; if I could ensure that they win over Trump, I would. The problem is it's not about my final vote; it's about swing voters, and they're not convinced by a long shot. So unless something drastically changes, it doesn't matter how you feel about the administration; we're toast.
If not through replacing the candidate, how do you propose we turn it into a winning campaign?
I'm gonna be honest - I have not seen or heard anything about Kamala Harris in probably a year. And for most people it's probably been longer. So it's very hard to make a judgement on what kind of candidate or president she would be.
I’m confused. He has said repeatedly that he is staying in the race.
He has. A lot of us (and by implication probably Nacncy Pelosi) feel it is a train wreck waiting to happen
he has but he still has time to change his mind which is what a lot of the people saying they will support whatever he chooses to do seem to be implying he should do
Well 55% of DEMs voters now want him to step out. Pre-debate it was 10%.
It's not about him is about the voters. Increase for Biden to step out will just keep increasing if he doesn't prove he can beat Trump.
He may want to, but are we confident that he can inspire undecided and apathetic voters to participate? Are we convinced he can literally campaign and communicate the threat of the next election? I don't want a Trump admin, but watching Biden campaign lately has been excruciating.
Perhaps it's the mega dollar donors who have the final say? If they are withholding money until Biden drops out of the race, then they somehow need to be convinced otherwise, and quickly!
Sad to hear all this democrat party destroying their own candidate. They don’t have backbone!
😢😢
Pray for America 🇺🇸., I don’t want to watch anymore..
Nonsense. Frankly addressing the situation and weighing alternate paths is not "destroying" anything. Democracy is messy.
I’m on Team Biden should stay but I can’t believe there are Democrats on Twitter denying the polling and saying everything is fine.
So how can you support him if all signs point to him losing to trump?
The fact that it's so controversial this late in the game is a bad sign. If Democrats can't even get on board with Biden, how will independent voters have confidence?
So why do you want trump to win? Seeing as how you want a corpse to stay
Nobody is saying everything is fine they're just saying that being rational is more important than being reactionary.
I call them Blue Magas.
Regardless of who the democratic nominee is, I'll be voting for them. If it's Biden, then he wins, and his mental fortitude declines further to the point he has to step down, then we get Kamala Harris.. which is an absolute W in my opinion. If we have him step down now, and run someone else, we could still win.
Wrong, it’s too late to change candidates, are you aware how long it takes to groom a candidate for president?????
No one has the name recognition Biden has.....You will be handing the white house to Rump on a silver platter......
We have a lot of people who aren't regular voters and replacing Joe might make them not vote at all.
96 days until early voting starts in GA. It's too late and this BS is just hurting our chances of keeping trump out of the White House.
Jen Psaki is very insightful
You guys need to listen to the introduction to Joe Biden at the AFL-CIO meeting. The person introducing Joe Biden fed him the line that the AFL-CIO was Joe Biden's NATO - and he fed it back. Shows that he can listen and respond - extemporaneously.
What really irks my nerves is the fact you can show the things Trump says against Biden but not the crazy mess that comes out of his mouth about Hannibal Lecter, etc. You need to show Trump as a crazy man and liar!!!
oh yeah it’s not like the media hasn’t bitched about him for 10 years. What shocking thing could Trump say now that would be beyond the pale of anything else?
Trump was joking around and to be honest, I thought he was funny. Loosen up!
EXACTLY
My friend, everyone already knows he’s a crazy liar. The voters just don’t care.
One psychiatrist labeled him criminally insane. He has proven it over & over again!
I KNOW the DEBATE didn't go well, HOWEVER it's THE MEDIA'S FOCUS SHIFTING to the FRIGHTENING possibility of TRUMP and PROJECT 25 🎉🎉🎉🎉 PLEASE HELP 🎉🎉 VOTE BLUE 💙💙💙💙
He has dementia bro
We must!
@@youtuby014so does trump, what’s your point
Saying his answers to questions in the debate were “hard to understand” is Jen being human talking about a man she holds dear. They weren’t hard to understand. He was confused and in some ways it showed how responses are so canned these days. He was giving that his best and it just is not there anymore. It’s heartbreaking, but we don’t have time for that. If Joe believes Trump is a major risk like we all do, then someone needs to appeal to that. He needs a friend to walk him through this. It’s so very sad to me, but it would seem like Jill, Hunter, and the rest of his family and close advisors can’t or wont do that for whatever reason. EVERYONE IN AMERICA KNOWS WHAT THEY SAW. That is because we have all seen elderly grandparents and parents do this. It’s how we have accepted it’s over. This doesn’t improve. It wasn’t just the debate. Joe does not realize his abilities have taken this sharp of a decline.
No she’s not being kind she knows he appears senile. She just won’t say it. Begs the question; what’s her motivation? Why not speak truth?
Trump didn't answer the question. He just lied. Where is the interrogation of that?
You should have been talking about Project 2025 this whole time.
Jen! Go get on his campaign staff. They need you!
Why would someone board a sinking ship? We need a new candidate!
She hasn’t seen him for two years and isn’t exactly arguing for him to stay in…
@@atomicredhead they/we need Katie Porter
@@pucciann
Katie is terrific.
I really hate how Dems as a party is operating on who's turn it supposedly is. F that. That is why Dems are weak. Either let the people truly pick their choice instead of that sham of a primary or pick strategically who would be the best candidate.
(And as much as I would love a POC, female president, Kamala is not it. She would not be the best strategic move either.)
Fully agree - Kamala can’t win either
Agreed!
Get back in line and vote blue no matter who.
It’s our democracy and we will tell you how to vote.
Gavin Newsom... ... Trumps head would spin off his body in a debate with Newsome! He would be reduced to his normal name calling..lol
@@floridamanrides863lol exactly, the DNC isn't a democratic organization. See what happened to Bernie. Nobody ever actually wanted Biden, they just decided for us that he was the best bet.
Greetings from Australia. Why are more questions not being asked of Jake Sullivan and Donald Trump, in relation to their controversial positions on Ukraine? For example; If the USA were invaded and under constant missile attack by a powerful enemy, 1. Would Sullivan refuse to launch missiles at the enemy launch sites in fear of escalation? and 2. Would Trump be willing to hand over Alaska and the state of California as a trade-off for peace????
Foreign policy isn't very high on the average US voters agenda. Unless its the MAGA-crowd, but they mostly care for foreign policy because they want to invest much less, they're interested in disengaging from the world theatre.
Bc we live in an oligarchy where mainstream media is owned by wealthy right wingers and Democrats can’t get messaging right and constantly fumble. It doesn’t help that Democrats voter base is basically everything but right wingers and the Overton window is so skewed towards the right at this point that it now includes many of the non-extreme republicans
In a new york minute.
I'm so tired of the media's slanted discourse! Fox played manipulated videos. MSNBC didn't play entire interview with Pelosi which DID show she supported Biden. Who cares if he can't make it another 4 years? Who else is a guaranteed win? No one. THEN when they lose everyone's going to blame Biden instead of themselves. Trump is afraid of Biden. Democrats should be focusing on this. He's been clear and focused ever since the debate including NATO currently. Biden won the primary I don't want to vote for anyone else.
@sherririvera...EXACTLY. I've also stated No One can predict their future health/fitness. Just like JFK's assassination. We must somehow make those with public platforms STOP their continual undermining of our current administration & our incumbent president! THEY will be our country's ruin, Not Biden's verbal slips.
Joe Biden will not leave and he will win the election. If democrats don’t unify we will lose everything. Vote Biden 2024. All of this talk is making me nervous. I hope it stops soon.
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The Democrats may unite but this is about the independents and undecided whose votes are vital for Demcrats to win. You need to understand that, it is not about never-Trumpers or Democrats.
Where does your confidence that he'll win come from? The most respected forecasters give him about a 1 in 4 shot, and he's given no indication of shaking up his campaign going forward in any notable way.
Vote Blue 💙 Tsunami 💙 is Coming in November for the Greater Good of the Country and the WORLD 🌍💙🇱🇷😎💯💯💯💯💯💯
@@sofisa11The Democrats will not unite, I am a liberal but I would never vote for Biden if I would have a choice. Would you step on a plane with Biden being the Pilot? But we would trust him with the nuclear codes??? That is madness. If the Democrats bring out a fresh, younger Candidate they will swipe the elections. Trump is a convicted felon, an incredibly weak candidate ..
Beating a dead horse are we, damn I sick of hearing this B.S. Get behind Biden, or just give tRump the election.
💙BIDEN 🇺🇸 HARRIS 💙 2024
To many experts.
You realize Biden is currently giving the election to Trump if you look at any poll at all and it's getting worse.
You can have Biden or you can have a victory in November but other than pure delusional fantasy (Biden was up 6 points at the point in 2020 polling) you can't have both.
Getting behind Biden is very likely to give Trump the election; that's the whole point.
Exactly how I feel!!
Getting behind biden IS giving the election to trump.
He's going to lose to Trump. What don't you understand?
I'm personally on the, Biden Step-Aside, bandwagon, for no other reason than the debate. I'm a liberal Dem and I know the President can do the job still, but i'm not the one that needs convincing. It's all the people who thought about voting for Biden before the debate and who are changing their minds after the debate. Those people need to turn up and vote for a Democrat and right now they think the President of the United States can't put together a coherent sentence. And while I know the hypocrisy of all this is completely absurd and that Americans should be far more concerned about an authoritarian fascist criminal that wants to completely upend the longest running democracy in the world, but this is the America we live in right now.
BUT, Biden didn't make the VP job seem lame... it kind of bolstered him to presidency.
I don't vote for president for his golf game
And, besides, Trump's golf game is terrible!
So you like wars
@@gpz700rtotal nonsequiter
He cheats at everything!
@@gpz700rI like presidents who don’t want to be a dictator or is hoping to protect himself from his treasonous actions who stole classified documents including our nuclear secrets
Biden HAS decided 🤷♂️
He's too arrogant to step down, and too old to fight for democracy.
Maybe you should get bidens actual schedule after the debate. He has been out there..all over the place. Like jenn said when is enough enough. He also has to run a country. I'm w Joe. A few garbled words doesn't erase what he's done and what he's able to do. He's not a spokesman. He's a 'get shit done' guy!
How are Americans only now discovering project 2025? My fifteen year old in Belgium asked me about this five months ago
They want to focus on the criminal.
I would vote for a sentient rock if it ensured Trump was never president again, however I would be personally very sad if Biden doesn't step down. I have always believed him to be a true patriot, at this stage it's his patriotic duty to stand aside.
Take a look at the 1968 convention. Pay attention to history.
If he is staying in the race it is because he believes he is the only candidate at this stage who can prevent Trump from winning. He is a patriot and a good man, and if he can’t serve 4 more years I believe he will step down and allow Harris to take over. I don’t understand how anyone who follows politics closely enough to watch this could think Joe Biden is some kind of ego-maniac who doesn’t care what the stakes are.
for me the rock wouldn't even have to be sentient. the problem is we know there aren't enough people like us to win the election. that's why we're desperate for Biden to step down and terrified he won't.
We can't afford to lose the incumbency advantage and no-contest advantage for the Dems to win the presidency again. Otherwise, we would be very likely to lose the white house like what happened in 2016. Follow the 13 keys by Allan Lichtman and watch his interviews and YT channel.
21:57 Psaki sounds eerily like MAGA apologists and surrogates who say “it’s the American people, not me, who don’t trust our elections” after they’ve TOLD the American people the election was stolen.
While I don't really know Pelosi, I would argue that there is reason for her to use ambivalent phrasing even if she does think Biden can do the job: She might have reason to believe he's not being 100% forthright on what he's actually planning to do. Biden has said he's running, but with NATO negotiations happening there may be external reasons he's trying to put up a strong front, so she might just be staying her hand to avoid either putting her thumb on the scales if he's feeling ambivalent or weakening anyone's campaign if he doesn't do what she said he should do. If she's really the political animal everyone says she is, her statement reads to me as much more of a "Let's wait and see" than an "I don't want to get caught in the political fallout" kind of statement.
Whenever this election is over I never want to see any of you people ever again.
Who ???
@kaceykelly7222 well, not you 😁
Pod Save America took some fire for being among the first to question publicly if Biden should step down, and I'm sure that wasn't easy--but it was vitally important to get that conversation started. I am so grateful that you used your political capital, and exploited the fact that you have an audience, to get that done.
And Jen Psaki? She was great in this video. The fact that she is so clear-headed and practical, even though she has real ties to Biden, shows how much she deserves her own show.
So Pod Save America can all sell their books later on? Go on tours like Obama and Clinton? This click bait is lucrative stuff. There's no good faith discussion here. Not after Biden performed the next morning and has made his decision.
Listen to "That Trippi Show where Joe talks about how Trump cratered during the debate in live polling with Independents, Undecideds and Doubtful Double Trump voters.
Independents, Undecideds and Doubtful Double Trump voters went further off Trump during the debate. They did not like Trump's lies and viciousness towards Biden.
I liked what the union leader said what if he stumble on his words, the response was that's no big deal he's always done that! They just want him to listen to them be be there!
He won't be there if he loses the election. If he stays in, he (and the country) loses.
I'm a Teamster and I'm voting for Trump.
As long as we are up against Trump there is no JB I wouldn’t vote for, I think most Americans are in the same boat, do I wish it was someone younger and all that ? Sure but I am not worried that he even at this age could end up begin even a fraction worst then things would be if Trump were to ever get back into the White House ! So I see everyone concern an worry but if he’s who we have that then that’s who we have any again slowed down Joe Biden is miles better then supreme ruler Trump.
But people like us won't decide the election, they will simply not vote, leaving the door open for Trump (if Biden continues)
Bro Biden BARELY squeaked out an electoral college win last time. I’m not too optimistic that he has gained in that regard as of now. In fact polls consistently show that he’s been losing.
It's not about wanting someone better in office; it's about wanting someone with a halfway decent chance of winning. The most respected forecasters are currently giving Biden about a 1 in 4 shot, and even that is probably too high because the models assume based on past election data (involving candidates not in their 80s) that there's room for the candidate to shake things up, and it's hard to see Biden doing that. I agree with you that Biden in his current state would be better than Trump (if not by that much); it's just that we're probably not getting that. To be fair, we're probably not getting a Democratic win no matter what we do at this point, because the party shamefully let this go so long in the first place. But I'd rather a 35% chance over a 25% chance.
Got that right!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
He won by 40000 votes last time. He is down 9 point from last year. Wake up
Oh dear. I just love Biden! He has been an excellent president and will go down in history as such. I think he would have a fine second term, especially given his strong administration. But .... optics.
I hear you. I think the media has bent its lens primarily on Biden's perceived issues, making what might be a flame into an inferno; now they're running around screaming "FIRE!"
Creating a story, then reporting ceaselessly on it.
Appreciate this podcast.
@meghan42...which is why we MUST Change the narrative! Joe's Actions should speak louder than any interview or debate. On his worst day, Joe is Immeasurably better for our country than Trump & MAGA. Vote for the Administration that has achieved so much while battling the obstruction of the MAGA Repubs.
HE NEEDS TO TAKE A BREAK. WE OWE JOE. THE WORLD. HE SAVED US. WE NEED SAVE HIM
Biden SAVED US, LET BIDEN ALONE! WE OWE JOE now say this with me: WE OWE JOE
WE OWE JOE WE OWE JOE WE OWE JOE WE OWE JOE WE OWE JOE WE OWE JOE WE OWE JOE
Joe needs to go. We are losing now - check Cook Report -- 6 states moved from Biden to Trump in the last 48 hours.
Don’t interpret what Pelosi said. Just listen to what she said. She simply said that she’ll support whatever his decision is. And his decision is that Biden ain’t quitting.
This host seems to have an agenda or belief that he wants regarding Biden. And he like the MSM pundits’ obsession with Biden stepping down is a huge turn off.
Turn yourself off, then. The rest of the country has spoken. On you if you don't respect their views.
Literally could put Donald Duck there instead of Biden, and it would be a sweep vs. Trump.
I can't stand it with the smiling responses and snickering to Trump's ramblings. This isn't funny.
Can't fault the master entertainer for being a master entertainer. Its the mans career.
@@Habib_Osman agreed. I was mostly referring to Jen
This is how i see Presideny Biden in the last debate....Have you ever been next to someone who has wronged you or your family so badly and there's all the things you want to say to show that person what they did wrong, while trying to keep your composure, then kick yourself later for all the things you didn't say....
I don't think i could stand next to a felon, who has done so much to the country i love and NOT GO BAT SHIT on his A$$... I'd forget ALL the things i wanted to CALL OUT while trying to DEFEND DEMOCRACY...
The thing is people like the Dumpster will never see the wrongs they've commited, they don't care who they throw under the bus to fulfill their PERSONAL AGENDA.... Creeps like this are the ones who challenge the legal system and play games while sliding through the loopholes...
I get why people (those barely surviving this economy) through generations of bad actors making policies that hurt the WORKING CLASS and wanting to BUCK THE SYSTEM...
This is why Biden struggled at the debate, because he is fighting for the working class who can't seem to see the damage the dumpster has done, while making so many efforts to make life for the working class better. They aren't see how the REPUBLICANS have been shoving the working class down with policies that keep hurting the working class while big companies fuck the citizens...
I sew the work that Biden has done to make life better for everyone, while forgetting we had a pandemic our lives were turned upside-down & inside out, and doing the absolute best he could to have that soft landing over economic crisis like the GREAT DEPRESSION...
My family is living on less that 40k a yr, for the last 8 yrs, we make it work, and like everyone else if we lose our paycheck we'll be hurting in a big way, but we have survived through all of this, while making due. I know Biden/Harris are working for us, it's not perfect change doesn't happen overnight...but i believe in our democracy, and the people will vote to save it.
I thought Biden had already decided he was staying.
Biden doesn't know where he is and he probably doesn't want to be the last president of the United States
But maybe his ego rivals Trump's after all
He has. These idiots create division to pay their bills.
Ok I have never voted and I’m 61 but I’m voting for Biden and I think all these democrats need to listen to Allan Lichtman!!!
Welcome and vote down ballot, too.
She said a whole lot of nothin’
"We can make a little order where we are, and then the big sweep of history on which we can have no effect doesn't overwhelm us. We do it with colors, with a garden, with the furnishings of a room, or with sounds and words. We make a little form, and we gain composure."
Robert Frost
Posting re cleaning our fridges and organizing our closets.
Shouldn‘t there be a MOCA cognition test before the next tranche of military support for Israel under Netanyahu? Because the policy that seemed demented might actually be demented.
Watching Jen Psaki literally wringing her hands during her answers says it all
She and all of the msm are licking Putin’s shoes and he loves it. The woman has zero integrity. Zero.
She didn’t answer a single question
You don'r want to weaken him publicly? What do you think you are all doing now.
He did that himself.
Exactly I totally say the same thing. So if the polls go down. Thank democrats and the news!!!
Blaming the people for demanding accountability for that embarrassment of a debate is some 10/10 elitist bullshit
We're telling the truth. His debate could be chalked up to 1 night of NyQuil and jet lag.
The interview with George was recorded in the daylight hours and was incredibly bad too.
"Have you watched the debate"
"I don't think so, no"
WTF x infinity. There is no universe in which team biden didn't know that was going to get asked. And that answer just fuels concerns that he is mentally unfit.
We can't afford to lose the incumbency advantage and no-contest advantage for the Dems to win the presidency again. Otherwise, we would be very likely to lose the white house like what happened in 2016. Follow the 13 keys by Allan Lichtman and watch his interviews and YT channel.
46:20 Just to note, it wasn’t a snap election in the UK. Our elections always take 5-6 weeks.
You may be confusing this with France. They had a snap election with only two weeks of campaigning.
See the article by Tim Alberta in the Atlantic. Trump’s campaign is praying for Biden to be the nominee - they expect a landslide win and with good reason. A younger, more dynamic candidate would confound them.
It is too many cooks in the kitchen! Leadership.... here is where we are going and here is the marching orders!
If he won't step down, what is the point of talking about this now??
Because we don’t live in an authoritarian hell and we’re allowed to voice our concerns.
Views. Because the more we discuss the faster Biden drops in the polls. He's said he's running about 5 different times now and they are still talking about "when he decides". You guys better prepare for the worst case scenario because if we continue down this path into Aug we will lose. We will lose. Remember the swing states will decide this election like they've decided every election.
Because the 25th Amendment is an option (and as far as I'm concerned, ought to be invoked at this stage).
Are you new to politics? They’re continuing to talk about it because they’re going to keep putting pressure on him till he drops tf out 👏🏼
Because we don't want a repeat of Sen Dianne Feinstein and this time the stakes a much MUCH higher.
I know this is an unpopular view but Joe can’t prove he’s fine but he should still be the one because otherwise we lose. We have a coalition and Kamala can always step in and we go forward.
You dudes are fn cowards... Biden or Bust. Circle the wagons and back him up! He's not stepping down...move on...move fwd...we gotta party to unite, and an election to win.
The problem is Democrats backing him up isn't enough. He needs to gain swing voters, and he's given us zero indication of how he's going to achieve that. I would understand your stance if Biden was currently sitting with a decent chance of winning, but I'm not seeing that.
That's why, ironically enough, I don't think you're a coward - I can't blame you for succumbing to the administration's, party leaders', and the media's years of gaslighting - but I think any Democrat in power right now not speaking the obvious truth to Biden is a coward.
My comment seems to have disappeared, so apologies in the event of a double message.
The problem is Democrats backing him up isn't enough. He needs to gain swing voters, and he's given us zero indication of how he's going to achieve that. I would understand your stance if Biden was currently sitting with a decent chance of winning, but I'm not seeing that.
I will vote for Biden even if he is the hospital with no chance to survive. The worst thing that can happen is kamala becomes the president.
Vote blue down the ticket 💙
That’s not something to be proud of
Love your take! I’m with Joe!
Why are you against Kamala? Asking sincerely. I’m ride or die for Biden but I’d be happy to vote for her too.
@MyFamz-wl2kv you may want to seek help for your condition 😢
You are not the voter in question. You are True Blue.
Not the voter for being sought for.
Thank you for giving us a cool af president with Obama, but those days are over. I am tired of this narrative. It's been two weeks now Stop. The people want Biden and we know even white liberals won't vote for Kamala alone. Black women have chosen Biden and Harris. Believe them. If you won't believe us because no one does, listen to Professor Litmann who said to chill the eff out. I have unsubscribed from Lemon, The NYT, and I won't look at CNN, MSNBC, and HuffPost. I am now unsubscribing from you. You don't listen to the people..
Obama was cool but not nearly as effective a president as Biden. Those are just the facts. The Pod guys can’t deal with it. There’s always been a level of professional jealousy by them toward Biden and his team.
@ListenUpDemocracy...WELL Said!! I'm with yoh, as are Many of the commenters here. We simply MUST band & stand together against Trump & all MAGA candidates and STOP Undermining our President or we, and our entire country, Loses. The egotistical pundits are too oblivious to this audience and how to actually help Dems WIN in November. They are only hurting us all...
Well I'll say it: V.P Kamala Harris would be a fierce compelling candidate. Kamala at the top of the ticket would energize the whole thing. She'd make mincemeat of trump.
Kamala Harris and Tim Ryan ticket is a winner!
To those wondering why this conversation is necessary: The debate nearly two weeks ago was very upsetting, and President Biden hasn't addressed the concerns raised.
While almost all Democrats support Biden, the issue isn't just about supporting Joe Biden. The crucial question is: who will win the electoral college?
This comes down to swing states, swing voters, and independents. If you're only listening to the opinions of Democrats, you're missing what these critical voters are saying.
We need to talk about this because it's important and relevant right now.
He did address it, you just don’t like the answer
@@franjkav Biden hasn't addressed it though. He just told people to shut up.
Until concerns are actually assuaged, telling people to shut up and vote for Biden isn't going to achieve anything but make people paying attention to the current polling despondent.
Red state legislators will overturn dem voting & have fake elector henchmen. We need to address that.
All this hand wringing is scaring people and undermining the effort to defeat trump. Period. Full stop. It is not helping.
@@macgregorwiggins1285 But that's not true. Biden's performance is what is scaring people.
No we won’t will senate and house races if we don’t get our act together
You can tell that Jen Saki is a former press secretary because she hedges on EVERYTHING.
There was no hedging at all with Trump's press secretaries. Just a firehose of lying, and shouting at the people asking them questions
of course she's lied for so long and needs to keep her job
Definitely!!! Jen is not brave.
She is tryng to cover what is going on in the world of politics, not give her personal opinion. Remember that she used to work for Biden. She does not want to weaken him if he is the eventual Dem candidate.
It is quite frustrating. Her honest insights would be valuable but instead she offers up nothing burgers. He needs to bow out of the election and people need to voice it publicly. He is not positioned to win. We don't need a candidate where every day we wonder, is Joe going to have a good day today? He is not the best candidate for 2024.
The people voting for Biden are going to vote Democrat no matter what. We have to get the people who won’t.
Instead of talking about Biden, why aren’t you talking about Trump
I’m not sure I understand why you’re saying that he hasn’t done a lot of things, when I saw that I think it’s his secretary saying like a whole list of things that he’s done and he’s been to many states even after the debate. Am I missing something?
That's just standard campaigning, so relative to expectations it's not a lot.
@@RestingJudgeBut Trump is not keeping up to Biden's campaign schedule.
Stop operating from a position of fear and weakness. Stop being cowards. Stop disregarding 3 and a half years of policy triumphs. Stop pinning your support on one bad debate. If the American electorate can't figure out that trump is a disgusting piece of garbage, then we will get what we deserve.
They are doing what you are telling them. They are not behaving like cowards, otherwise they would shut up and keep their unpopular opinion to themselves.
They are not disregarding Bidens triumphs, they acknowledge that he had a great presidency. That has nothing to do with the question if he is physically and mentally fit right now and for the next four years.
The worry is not about one debate, it`s about Biden looking old, frail and lost at every event since then.
Well you think they shouldn`t be weak, so should`t they fight to defeat Donald Trump? Shouldn`t they make sure to do everything to defeat Trump, like demanding a viable opponent to run against Trump?
If you think this is just about one debate and not an indication of a underlying issue you are in denial.
Stop disregarding the polls.
Biden needs to be able to successfully communicate those policy triumphs to the moderate and independent voters who end up deciding the election. He needs to attack Trump’s abhorrent platform and objectionable record. If he is unable to do any of that, then he’s sunk. Many voters are becoming disillusioned because of his unnerving decline and will choose RFK or abstain. Does it represent a maddening and unfair comparison versus Trump’s lunacy? Of course, but that’s just the nature of the electorate. The approval numbers don’t lie.
@@validatedclassified2564 Are you a medical doctor? There is an underlying issue. It is called 'age'. If you are suggesting otherwise, you are just ignorant.
Psaki now too? These are incredibly foolish people. Biden is fine. Listen to the European leaders speak about dealing with him. Concentrate your attention on the single worst presidential candidate we have ever had in this country, Donald Trump. I am more than disgusted with journalism, or what passes for it, these days.
THEN. HE NEEDS CAMPAIGN VISITING WITH HIM. THATS HOW HES HAPPIEST. KEEP HIM THERE TO WALK THRU THIS SHHH
I think if you are advocating on a national liberal political platform that Joe should resign that you should also be able to recommend who will be the new candidate. When Jen recommended Kamala, initially it appeared that you also questioned her candidacy. I have been a democratic voter for 45 years, its very hard for democratic folks to agree on one person. I think democratic folks will splinter and we will lose the election.
Let’s not pretend this isn’t also generational. There are urgent, extant issues that will have lasting consequences, and consequences that will never affect the only people with the power to tackle them. Why didn’t he put forth the effort to position a potential successor? He never intended to. He promised to be transitional, and reneged for no apparently justifiable reason.
His team did everything they could to shut out Harris and throw her under the bus.
We can't afford to lose the incumbency advantage and no-contest advantage for the Dems to win the presidency again. Otherwise, we would be very likely to lose the white house like what happened in 2016. Follow the 13 keys by Allan Lichtman and watch his interviews and YT channel.
Exactly. He’s been a good president. A great president would empower others to rise, empower his VP, and have a rock solid transition plan for an 80+ year old leader.
@@benbohannonI agree I just said earlier today, if wanted to go down in the top 5 presidents of all time, he would hand pick his successor and dropout of the race. That way he could stay on a grandfather of the party and in an advisory role.
That's what Kamala is!
I miss the times when folks didn’t say “right” after every other sentence. And Obama.
Jen, I went on vacation for a week and was glued to the news. Who could relax? The day after the debate, I was so upset, I emptied out my fridge!
Lovett is seeping with anger, frustration and distain. He totally doesn’t want this timeline to be real.
@@robertdavidtingstrom118 probably wishes he was back in Fiji 😂
His head is so far up his own arse like all the pod-save dude bros.
@@OneMoreTankexactly! And here's the thing... If Trump was to win and the Christian Nationalists take over, Lovett has the money to take his gay ass back to Fiji. He can escape what Project 2025 has planned for him. But we can't.
More than tired of the pod boys.
Vibing so hard with Lovett. It's embarrassing the DNC thinks this smokescreen is working.
Public pressure isn't helpful. The Dems need to talk behind the scenes and make a decision with Biden and present a unified front on whatever they decide. This back and forth with pundits and the mixed messages of the Dems is worse than the debate.
It’s the media who has been trying to create this drama. Why aren’t they asking Trump to step down????
That is the way I feel.
I for one think a little less backroom dealing, and a little more public dealings is needed. Only Biden can resolve this--one way or the other. His interview, his calling into Morning Joe, his spray tan...these things aren't working.
I agree with you 100%. Get it together and present a unified front.
@@oneopinion6806 but that is what the news critics have decided Biden needs to do.
Thank you, Jen, for your experience combined with honesty. We can't fix a problem unless we acknowledge the situation first.
I typically donate to the democratic nominee every presidential election. I decided to not donate to democrats if Biden stays in the race. Love the guy, but he has to withdraw.
I’m only staying with this conversation because you have been very respectful in this discussion. But we need to get away from this and move forward. Talk to Biden. Ask him what he’s going to do. He will say, “Didn’t you hear me? I’m running. I’m not stepping down.”
Part of this is an entitled group of podcasters with an over developed sense of their own importance.
Lots of temper tantrums because Joe won't give them an interview. They just aren't that important.
I question the dems who are abandoning their candidate, if they would have thrown FDR out from being a candidate due to his disability, when he was elected, that would mean we would not get out of the depression or fight and win in WW2.
FDR wasn’t dealing with cognitive issues, he was a brilliant communicator and executive. I don’t think anyone cares about a purely physical disability. The problem is that, so far, Biden hasn’t proven that he can convince the critical swing voters who are on the fence. That requires the ability to debate adequately, handle interviews with skill, and campaign like crazy while staying on message. Looking at the worrisome polling and widespread negative sentiment, I think it is fair to raise these concerns. All that matters is defeating Trump, not fealty to Biden’s hubris.
@yodimetarado1513...based on your stated criteria, Kamala's debate performance with Mike Pence was underwhelming, as is her campaigning about anything other than abortion-related topics.
It is not just up to Joe to 'convince' swing voters, or Any of the uninformed voters, about which party values our Rule of Law, Constitution and democratic freedoms vs the party/candidates who do not. That is on ALL of us in our daily lives right now. Freedom is NOT Free! We must All stand united behind our incumbent administration and fight for our futures. Those unwilling to do so should at least STOP undermining our efforts for a Biden Blue Wave in November.
Lovely to hear you both. Talking and listening is important to us all. Good conversation. Thank you
If the Senators and Reps loose, its their own fault. Why do their constituents not know them enough to come out and vote for them?
Why aren't people telling trump he needs to step down?
Because he isn't our nominee and he had many people go against him and his terrible voters picked him.
I mean do you honestly think that? More elected officials asked for Trump to step down after the Access Hollywood tape in 2016 than have so far asked for Biden.
Dozens of former officials who worked under Trump have openly said he shouldn't be the nominee and stated they will vote for Biden or do a write in vote.
Where is this whataboutism coming from other than a weak attempt to deflect attention from a serious debate and story that affects both the current President of the United States and the chances of retaining the White House, Senate or reclaiming the House?
THE GOP hates Trump but is scared of the MAGA mob. There are plenty of Republicans who are going to vote for Biden, but they can say it out loud unless they get attacked.
Biden can win those voters!!! Don't listen to the pundits class.
Stay on topic. Focus. I know it's hard.
Not one word about that!!
All these people calling for Biden to go are paranhas. Biden is a wise politician. He will stay. He knows what to do.
No, we're aware that he can't get enough people to the polls in the swing states to win
Jon and Jen, you should listen to last Saturday’s last 10 min of The Focus Group pod (with Sarah Longwell). You need to hear 4 groups of voters share what they think about Harris.
Biden must - must - stop talking about NATO. More Americans know the names of the characters in any hit Disney movie than know what NATO does, or even what the acronym "NATO," means.