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- Joe Biden turns in a disastrous debate performance, missing an opportunity to take advantage of Donald Trump's (many) lies and unhinged moments, and sowing real doubt about his strength as a candidate over the long run. Jon, Lovett, Tommy, and Dan discuss what went wrong and what might happen now.
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The people who say "still voting for Biden" are not the people Biden needed to convince.
You got that right.
We cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace Harris too, with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as Michigan's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022. This would help get votes from other Midwestern states as well.
It's mind blowing to me. Take a step back and look at polls even before the debate and what effect this disaster will have to trying to change that. I can't understand the denial.
@@vernonfrance2974 yall should've done that way sooner 😂😂 there's no way a replacement this late who no one voted for in their primary win an election. Maybe you guys should try realistic solutions instead of narrative framing and coping everytime something happened making Joe look old.
@@vernonfrance2974nah the ticket needs to be Midwesterners only. Whitmer/ Pritzker is my ticket.
I'm a healthcare specialist in the geriatric field. The signs of senility and degeneration are very common among our patience and quite vividly displayed by Biden. This condition will progress more rapidly now and he will begin to be angry and resentful toward everyone because he won't remember what is going on or where he is so anger and snappiness feels better to them.at that time........sorry
Frankly..you guys have valid points & concerns. However, it's the media, as always, that made this debate the endall to this election. I have never cared for the debates or the polls. I will still vote for Biden and I started monthly campaign donations for Biden. I am sick & tired of stage perfornance politics. Trump is an extrovert who is a performer and the fact most people think a guy with a lying big mouth is more favorable is what is most sickens me.
Is no one going to comment on the following?
Trump: I wasn't going to run again. I would be very happy to be someplace else.
I too would be very happy for you to not run again and be someplace else. Preferably jail.
I'm having the same confused feelings about Joe that I have about RBG.
Yea it is just like the RBG thing.
Zero confusion here. Staying in office till you die at the cost of our freedoms and democracy shows you never cared about them in the first place.
Exactly.
Bingo. Sad, heartbreaking.
but no one dares blame her for losing 'roe' ...
You know who can't have the debate about whether Joe Biden should step aside is Joe Biden. He just proved that
We all want to go back to Fiji now
I'm nodding in agreement
The issue, to my mind, is Joe cannot formuate, recognize, nor engage in reason.
Watching this debate felt like watching the 2016 election results come in live.
I agree
Do you feel “cheated” 😂 this is karma. Get over it. 😅
It was almost as painful
@@hhhollyRussia lovely this time of year, hope your son didn’t suffer much when he died in Ukraine.
please let Trump win. it’s the republics only hope.
Rewatching this after the convention. What a ride!
it’s wild rewatching this now to realize this was only a month ago
I started watching PSA after biden dropped out and coming back to this episode.... oof. I'm glad we're at the place we're at now
Wishing America good luck from Scotland. Really hope you guys can sort out your circus.
We got it, Thanks Scottie!
Save America
Deport Every Illegal
Trump 2024
Seems like we’re going to slide back to 2016 and elect a clown
Do you guys have room for one American? ✋
As an American, we are a bunch of idiots . I have zero confidence in my Democratic party if they are whining about this debate as if this was the worst thing ever.
@imperialmotoring3789 Illegals are far better than MAGAS
Thank you for not sugarcoating the debate.
How about gaslighting you about Biden cognitive issues for over a year? You want to thank them for that to?
@@TeddyMonka The amount of "ring kissing" they do in spite of what everyone witnessed is sickening too.
@@SpecterVonBaren There is a word for that: *sycophants* 😘
Im here from one month in the future to let you know it gets better. Way better.
Dan’s body language when he isn’t talking is all of us right now.
don't worry he's still in the top 10% ...
Biiiiiiiig mood. Agreed.
WTF just happened?
I am crying of laughter.
you mean we are all scrawny 🐈s?
I really appreciate the candor here. I've never seen this group so shaken.
Yeah its rough
I do too, but it’s too little, too late. This candor should have been happening all along.
@@sheeshshoot123 the data doesn't really line up with that.
Remember the state of the union, where he did so well he was accused of doping with everything from Adderall to Cocaine.
Back in reality, I think Gaza hit Bidens body hard, his movements comparison now to 8 months ago.
He's definitely declining with his mobility.
@@sheeshshoot123 Their job is to support the candidate. They weren't wrong here, that the candor needs to be with Biden's advisors.
Me too, however, I think given his performance this morning at his Rally at North Carolina and I'm tending to like it's a premature over-reaction. Last night was hard and it was hard because he didn't look or sound like that at the State of Union and his Rallies up to that point were doing well. This morning his energy and voice were a huge improvement compared to last night and the assertiveness in his voice was on par with the State of The Union. th-cam.com/video/qDKIILMeZfk/w-d-xo.html Fast forward to when he and Jill Biden are speaking. It gave me some hope. Yes he was using a teleprompter, but he sounded much better. We have time and he'll do better if the 2nd debate happens. The other choice is just to dangerous for our country.
I think pod saved america
Anyone here after the second (first) presidential debate?
This has to be the most sobering moment for the Democratic Party since 2016.
Because 2024 is going to be 2016 all over again.
Yes this channel and every democrat on this page have to face the lies they have swallowed from Biden
Unfortunately, the Dems have never learned. I'm an independent and have voted Dem for a couple decades because the other choices are so bad. I will vote against Trump no matter what. But the Dems are just too cocky and don't pay attention to those who are not in their party. They need to wake up before our country goes down.
I think a lot of us already saw it.. no one was listening.
Clearly we need to go older guys, it's the only solution
This debate broke my heart. And i can tell this was a difficult podcast for all of you, but i applaud you for having this conversation. We HAVE to address where we go from here,💙
I'm going Blue
Mythoughts...broken heart
The fact that you seem shocked is a testament to your stupidity
These clowns were happy to shout down anyone who raised concerns about this over the years, they don't deserve your sympathy
A sincere thank you to the PSA boys for not shrinking back and expressing what we’re all feeling. This is the pod we needed
But now we cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace her with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as Michigan's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022.
@@vernonfrance2974 Spamming this won't make it any more plausible.
We needed it in December. They have shrunk back for months.
Where tf have you all been? You allowed yourself to be gaslit for 3 years?!
@@kah-vl8ti “allowed yourself to be gaslit” is, ironically, gaslighting! We’ve been here all along. But libs shamed and downvoted anyone saying nominating Biden was a bad idea
Watching this on 8/5/24, this video feels like it came out decades ago. July 2024 had to be the craziest month of politics of the 21st century.
Hi from over the pond. This is very sad and concerning. Joe is a patently decent person who is up against a collection of the worst human character flaws shoved into an orange skin bag. The fact he is now struggling is pretty depressing. I wish you all well in plotting a route out of this mess.
I'm 59 and desperately want the youth to step up and run for all levels of government and vote. People my age and older created this mess. My preferred ticket is Buttigieg/Abrams, but Biden is fine. He's old, sure, however he's a good president now and will continue to be. Because we are not a cult of personality, picking a new ticket in a few months would probably be disastrous. To be fair though, I would vote for a roasted chicken over agent orange.
Thank you. 🇺🇸
Yes - I’ll vote for a shriveled potato over a rotten one
Are you so blinded by TDS that you missed the fact that Biden has late stage dementia? It's a horrible disease. I lost my father to it last year. I could tell back in 2020 that he had it.
@@teresaparnham9780 Yeah... That's what we need; more people hired for jobs that they aren't qualified for 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
We aren’t over reacting. We got told for months that Joe Biden isn’t too old and then he does this in the biggest night of the campaign (so far)
the pod guys have been gaslighting us ...
One bad debate didn't make him turn 81yo. The world know his age because the media talk about it every hour of every day.
He’s a human! He’s allowed to have ONE bad night! Look at his record! Look at what he’s done for our country. Trump is a CONVICTED FELON! That is way more disqualifying than Biden, having a bad night! Give me a break!
@@direwolf6234absolutely this. This podcast ignoring Biden’s shortcomings for months. I mean I get why, but acting like this is shocking is weird.
Of course the goal is to beat Trump and it’s true that Biden did! But this debate honestly worries Me about if He can do it again even with all the convictions and indictments! It should be easy to do but this debate was a logical reason to be concerned about that. Jamie Harrison? Any thoughts?
“Best thing Biden did was schedule the debate before the convention“ this.
This month has been one hell of a year! 🌴 🥥
I'm not frightened by the prospect of a President Harris, but I am frightened about Project 2025 (and our current SCOTUS). If the choice is between an elderly president and instituting a totalitarian regime, the right choice should still be obvious to us.
Totalitarianism requires disarmament. Which party seeks to disarm law abiding citizens again?
@@anonymousanonymous8306I will never vote for a dictator and men that brag about grabbing women by their P........
@@anonymousanonymous8306 STFU. Shame on you for the lie.
@@anonymousanonymous8306stupid argument. If you want to overthrow the government, guns won't stop airstrikes. It's 2024, fascist regimes need well armed militias to help them overthrow the government and that's the Republicans
And what totalitarian laws did trump put into effect
Older democrats need to start passing the baton, this is ridiculous. RBG, Diane Feinstein, and Biden stayed in politics way too long. There are so many more that need to start retiring.
100%. We can talk about democracy all we want, but we have to remember that the best upholders of democracy are those that know we live in a society and others can and should rule. George Washington passed the baton, and our current batch needs to heed that lesson in humility for the greater good.
How do you not get what is actually going on.
Younger dems are not *as* controlled by Zionist lobby. Therefore the imperial caste will hold on to their old, verified puppets as long as possible
Younger people are more economically populist.
Democratic donors can’t have that. They’ll run literal vampires first.
They all do it, its so annoying. The lust for power has great pull, and the money is HUGE. This is why we need term limits on every government position, it forces them to 1 Retire, and 2 Choose a successor.
Don’t forget Pelosi and Schumer. They need to go for their hand in this.
That was so incredibly painful to watch.. This is RBG all over again. RETIRE before its too late.
It's already too late. When he ran in 2020 he said he was going to be a 1-term president. Well, because he beat Trump once, he thinks, for some unknown reason, that he is the only one who can. I agree with you but RGB was worse. Because of her hubris and ego, she is the reason women are less free now. She betrayed all women and destroyed her own legacy by not stepping down under Obama when she was encouraged to when he had both the house and senate, he could have appointed a strong liberal woman who would be there for decades. But because she thought she was too important to be replaced ..... women across this country now have to suffer because of her. And if Trump wins again, he will be able to appoint 2 more justices and hand the SCotUS to extremists for a generation.
My thoughts exactly
You’re right!
💯
If you think there’s some young thing who none of us could even name, can beat Trump at the last minute…you are insane. You better suck it up and get fully behind Biden!
We exist in the context of all that is around us.
RBG stayed too long and hurt the country. Similar situation.
Good comparison! She arguably undid the best parts of her legacy by not stepping down when she should have. Biden might do the same.
That’s what I said. It’s sheer hubris and ego. That’s all it is.
Facts... Ego is a bitch.
And what would McConnel have done had Ginsburg retired during Obama’s term? Have you forgotten how they treated Garland’s nomination? They left Scalia’s seat on the court vacant for nearly a year just to ensure they could install a conservative judge.
It wasn't a debate, it was a train wreck .
Time for Joe to retire.
Democrate spokespeople saying "Biden won" are not fooling anyone, please do not do that, it is so counterproductive...
If I was Russia I would make a move right now 😂
For both sides the debate was the wrong venue because all it did was emphasize the major problems for both candidates. Time for open conventions for both.
For both sides the debate was the wrong venue because all it did was emphasize the major problems for both candidates. Time for open conventions for both.
Since Kamala Harris is a heartbeat away from the presidency, the VP debate will now actually matter.
She could be an incumbent candidate by sundown if Biden wanted it. Resign and endorse. Go home to the grandkids. End on a historic high note.
Good think.she is young and smart. Maybe we will start getting our han rights back!💙
I believe Kamala Harris would do a great job as POTUS IF she won. Unfortunately, right now, her approval rating is even lower than Biden's. I'm at a loss because every road ahead looks beyond bleak 😢
harris didn't even make it to iowa .. you can bank on her losing ...
@@okeeydokeeey321 young smart and unlikeable ...
This is another Ruth Bader Ginsberg moment
yes, yes, yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea she’s burning in hell rn
RBG + Hillary Clinton combined. If the Democratic Party does not learn from this, they (and the rest of us) are _done._
@@Synodalianyep good god why have debate with a lying felon in the first place!😮
At least RBG didn’t have her finger on the button. This guy is starting wars everywhere at once. You should be very concerned.
This podcast had multiple episodes just a couple months ago scolding people like Ezra Klein for talking about the age related issues Biden is having, and promised that everyone who personally interacts with Biden says that Biden is in tip top condition.
What do you expect from Obamaworld Dems? They even said here Biden is an 'excellent President' and a 'good man'. What a joke.
Exactly. They don't even offer humility about their wrongness
The panel is a disgrace
I seriously doubt that they ever insinuated that Biden was in perfect condition, but even if they did, then I don’t know what you’re getting at. If they were relaying what they heard as you said, that means they got bad info. It happens. But they were right to scold considering that Biden seemed relatively fine at the SOTU and never appeared *this* bad before. IIRC, Ezra Klein also seemed unprofessional at times in the particular examples pointed to (i.e. choosing instances that were embarrassing more than they were concerning).
They know him personally, ffs! They didn’t lie. We all saw how powerful Biden was at the State of the Union, too. These comments are utter BS
I love Joe Biden and I had to turn off the debate last night bc it was heart-breaking to watch. Thanks PSA for just helping me process.
Exactly how I feel 😞
PSA has been lying to you for over a year. Saying that anyone who questions Biden's mental acuity is agist or right wing. They scolded Ezra Klein for questioning Biden's age. Why would you thank them 🤥 Do you like being lied to?
Hubris. It was really obvious to everyone that Biden should have stuck to one term. But, oh no, 2nd term, 2nd term...
This “honest” conversation should have happened a year ago! Otherwise we would have not been in this mess!
It was discussed. By many many sources.
It was snuffed out by the DNC. It was excused away. Now, at the 11th hour, the obvious has happened.
We could have spent the last 3 years propping up new dems to take the spotlight. Instead they were discouraged from doing so by the fucking DNC.
Exactly. I blame the top Dems who were more interested in keeping their positions and power than winning.
And I blame Biden. The hubris he’s displayed ruins any good will I felt. He knows he’s inept, surely.
Yup. I’m making the rounds saying, “I told you so.”
🏳️🌈It is THIS podcast episode which will be the defining moment of Pod Save America. You guys rose to the crisis.🏳️🌈
From Norway here.
I'm as shocked and terrified as everyone else of this horrible performance. What has to happen is a thorought effort trying to get Biden to step down. If he does, agree on one candidate, no internal fighting for "your" candidate. You need to have a united front backing whatever candidate you can find.
If Biden refuses to back down, everyone has to unite behind him, like it or not. And then we hope for the best. For democracy, the US and world peace.
UK here, so also an outsider. I completely agree with you, he surely has to go.
Joe will win in November. He wasn't feeling well. Watch his State of the Union.
Trump was on drugs and lied throughout the debate. He answered no questions. He's a traitor.
That is a formula for Trump winning. Not once since the start of the 20th century has an incumbent president been seriously challenged from inside his own party (sadly, always his) and gone on to win the election. Never. Biden had a bad night, but he has been a PHENOMENAL president. Do you fire a top athlete because of one bad game?
But now we cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace her with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as Michigan's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022.
It will likely be a brokered convention. I'm sure the top Democrats are discussing it as I'm writing this comment. However, I will still vote for Biden and Democrats whatever happens.
He promised to be a bridge President--last night showed he should have kept his promise
@jwroberts548 Exactly. He stuck his finger in the dike and stopped the catastrophe. Now, however. We don't have to accept this as a fait accompli. We don't have to take this lying down.
We cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace Harris too, with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as Michigan's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022. This would help get votes from other Midwestern states as well.
It’s the party’s fault. Biden didn’t want the 2nd term. The Party foolishly didn’t bring up another set (P, VP) in the 4 years they had
Us being so disillusioned about anyone keeping their word shows the situation we’re in.
**The Dali Container Ship has entered the chat**
Also the BEST possible spin I can put on this for voters is to paraphrase Maggie Kuhn: pick the candidate who speaks the truth - even if his voice shakes.
What you mean? RFK?
💯
YES!!!
The problem with that is that Biden is also a horrible liar not as much as Trump but a liar nonetheless
Biden was terrible
Horrendous. Nobody wants a physically and mentally decryptic leader
That's putting it mildly.
Trump was worse.
Biden was sick, he should have rescheduled.
I'm sorry but anyone who watched that and thinks Trump was worse than Biden is certified delusional and their vote wasn't up for grabs. The point of a debate is to win the confidence of undecided voters. Biden blew it.
To be honest, I couldn't watch more than 30 minutes. Biden was pale, his voice weak, and just not confidence inspiring. And Trump was repugnant.
I'm so saddened by last night. And even more scared for us all. 😢
Right there with you.
Jesus, same!
TDS still ailing you?
So are you scared of having a successful country again? If you think you are better off today than you were pre pandemic you are actually delusional or so entitled that you have never struggled a day in your life. I have 6 kids and when trump was president feeding and housing them was never an issue. I work my ass off and can barely make ends meet now. I don't know where everyone gets these stats like omg we are so strong like wtf world do you all live in because I want to come.
Anyone could have rebut Trump. I certainly could. When the incumbent cannot, disaster is pending.
How are we supposed to combat this as we proceed? Can’t sell Joe as the guy with better ideas. All you can say is he’s too inept to cause any problems.
The worst part is that this performance was after a full week of preparation. How is Biden ever going to get through 4 months of travelling around the country, holding rallies, more debates, donor events, not to mention running the country at the same time?
Biden is very good at doing his job, at donor events, dealing with people one on one, in relaxed small group settings, and doing anything involving reading off a teleprompter - fully scripted, plus a few ad libs here and there..
He is incapable of producing spontaneous speech in a high pressure situation, like a debate, or a news conference. His brain and mouth just don't work fast enough in sync anymore. I guess he will avoid those things as much as possible.
Or he'll step aside.
He's currently doing that though, his ability to perform on a debate stage is abysmal but he's been a great president
@@ayeeshahm9078 He has been a great president but the campaign trail is a different beast. Jon Favreau just brought up how a tired Biden delivered a poor performance during the recent event with Kimmel and Obama after having travelled to Europe for the D-Day memorial. If Biden is this tired this early in the campaign, I'm worried what toll a 4-month campaign schedule will do to him.
Biden needs to withdraw.
Or 4 more years if elected...
The problem is that the undecided voters either don’t understand or don’t care about Trump’s lies on the face of it. If they did, they wouldn’t be undecided.
Biden’s performance was SO BAD that it completely distracts from Trump’s faults. Most Americans are simple-minded when it comes to voting, and therefore performance is more important than substance.
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And that is real problem in this country, reality "show" over reality.
@messmeister92 Exactly!
We cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace Harris too, with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as Michigan's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022. This would help get votes from other Midwestern states as well.
@@vernonfrance2974 same comment another thread. i guess all i see in in some of these independent liberal channels is bots applauding biden
I don't think either picked up any undecided voters. This debate was not typical for Biden. It WAS typical of trump
Thank you for being honest. So sick of people pretending I didn’t see what I saw. So insulting.
Id encourage you to see what Biden sums up america, in one word “asufutimaehaehfutbw”
It's cheap fake
What did you see? I saw dementia
@@vbrenes31..I like your opinion...NOT your spelling...It's spelled Futafabbitta-vita vitamin
He blew it. No doubt about it. So did Trump where's the media demands for him to step down?
Thank you for your candor and not sugar coating the disaster of a debate it was, while also giving due credit to all Biden’s done. Totally agree with all of you.
This felt like a group therapy session, thanks guys
As an old person, I am constantly amazed at the ego of people who simply can't step aside for younger people when it is in the interest of the country.
Yes. Jill should take away is keys.
You cant talk about how existential a threat it is to democracy and then stay there and not let someone who can better convince people to stay with the dems take over. It does truly feel selfish. I think a lot of people were earnestly assuming that Biden was stronger than the flubs let on and was waiting for today to be proof. After today, thats just not the case.
After losing my dad at 86 in September I have been irritated at the age discrimination thing, as my dad was fine until COVID caused him to have a heart attack and being away from family increased his dementia Also as a 63 year old and my adult children suddenly treating me like I'm senile because I lost my husband 5 years ago, I resent the focus in" age"
Right. If he cared about us at all he would step down
Who was going to run for president for the Democrats. I'm sure Biden would've stepped down or I'm not sure, but I would've hoped he would have if the candidates were somehow closely qualified.
It turns out your sword is a banana - you are about to fight a gladiator - do you replace your trusted old sword for a new unknown sword or do you keep fighting with a banana ?
That's a terrible analogy.
@@trekkiejunkIt's pretty spot on.
@@trekkiejunk It's an excellent analogy. If you think it isn't....can you explain why?
@@avedic A banana wouldn't have won the sword fight four years prior.
The idea of not challenging an incumbent of your same party is NOT democratic.
No it isn't. Whether or not to challenge an incumbent is a political calculation. It can be a good one or a bad one. But the notion that one should never worry about possible negative consequences of challenging an incumbent is silly.
The idea of challenging an incumbent not being democratic is the least of the factors that were being weighed. The politics around such a challenge were risky. I think they are less risky now. But it’s naive to focus on the part of the calculation that is least important.
I think they might be looking at that now..
It may not be democratic but it’s a sure fire way to lose.
Unfortunately, now we cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace her with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as the state's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022.
It’s sad, but still voting for an honest person instead of a treacherous pathological liar, traitor and convicted felon 💙🙏
No way can I vote for Trump, convicted felon. Hard pass. That's all I know.
Every one of our founding fathers were felons. So I'd say Trump is in good company.
I will do the same because I love my children and grandchildren, because I love my country and I know that Biden is a far far better human being and leader than anyone who has ever been a conservative
Yes, you and I are voting blue no matter who. To beat trump you need the votes of undecided voters in swing states. Not a single one of them would have been convinced by Biden in that debate. He did not call out trump's non stop lying with vigor, he communicated his record poorly and lacked strength, charisma and a strong narrative. He needs to step aside with dignity for a democratic candidate in their 50s or 60s.
Cheater Biden = 15 million illegals, $3 gasoline & Inflation
I was *always* someone who said the age factor literally didn’t matter. Until the second Biden opened his mouth on that debate stage last night.
At this point, I genuinely think Biden and the party need to gather up, hunker down, choose a successor for Biden to name and then have him give a stirring emotional and inspirational speech in the spirit of FDR’s Fireside Chats, where Biden calls back to how he’s always said he’s going to keep it straight with the American people and level with us - that he hears our satisfaction with the technical job he has done and knows that the majority of Americans agree with his policies and vision for the country, but he hears our concerns and fears about his age - he’s just too damn old. So he’s doing the right thing, being above any one man and protecting the Constitution by taking the drastic but necessary step of naming Gavin Newsom as his preferred successor and he’s stepping out of the race. Make it super firm, strong and inspirational, like he’s doing this because he respects America and so badly needs the American dream to continue because if Donald Trump is elected it will just straight up die. A desperate time calls for a big, unprecedented action in order to save the soul of the country, etc. etc.
We can then all come together and be like yeah you know what, come on people - it’s Donald F*king Trump we’re facing here. We can’t let that guy and his people win. Let’s just do this.
And then everyone will actually *show up* and *actually vote* in overwhelming numbers due to a sense of shared Patriotism or whatever. It could be a f*king beautiful part of American history, and Biden would go down as one of the most respected politicians in history for putting the Constitution and the “American Dream” above any one man. We can then spend the next four years organizing around a total clean slate, with fresh new candidates for 2028, because we’ll be rid of both Biden and Trump at that point. We could truly start over. But we need to make it through these next four years goddamn it.
But we have to actually survive these next four years to get there, and that won’t happen if Donald wins.
Truth
Fever dream! Gavin Newsome is kryptonite to moderate Democrats. He can’t beat Trump!
Newsom and ?
Wow, you have powerful self-deception capabilities.
Wow lol. It's hilarious watching everyone address the 50,000 lb elephant in the room. Biden was suffering from dementia in 2020, and you all said it was lies. Now, you have a hard pill to swallow.
After the debate he needed to be guided down the stairs by his wife, for gods sake.
That was mortifying as was the follow-up where she spoke as if he was a toddler who was getting complimented for participating. This happened the next day as well. Apparently, she serves as a crowd wrangler & a caregiver when he speaks at small venues. To me that said this isn't a one-off episode but she has embraced the role of momanger in their relationship. The DNC has been completely non-transparent about whatever is happening, so I assumed it would be fine based on the SOTU (which I thought went well). Even mediocre would have been good enough. But this hit me like Hurricane Katrina. Sad.
I’m sickened, sad & scared. I agree with Lovett, we must have an alternate plan FAST!
@@hanke11the convention hasn’t happened yet so and the DNC process says we can have an open convention.
@@hanke11 what was democratic about this process? Did we have a choice in Biden this time around?
😂 you people are pathetic! Get a grip ffs 🙄
@@hanke11 Oh, you're going to HATE the democractic process if Biden is on the ticket in November. His campaign just entered it's death cycle.
All of the people who didn't push for primary debates are responsible for this right now.
Yeah, you are probably correct. Though in at least my opinion he killed it at the State of the Union address. I have to wonder if this was a bad, very off night or what
Yep! Exactly true.
Biden won handedly even as a write in campaign. A majority of democrats are to blame and they don't take part in YT comments so sorry they won't read you.
Biden won handedly even as a write in campaign. A majority of democrats are to blame and they don't take part in YT comments so sorry they won't read you.
Why?
For years and years, we have berated and shamed Republicans for not having the courage or conviction to stand up and stop Trump. Now we need Democrats to do that. For the love of god. Joe’s ego is not what needs protection here.
Good point.
Exactly all this because of one person's ego. I like the guy but this is his time to step aside. Not worth the risk just for someone's pride.
Enoughs enough, I'm sick of them trying to force Biden on us. A lot of people have egg on their face.
It’s RBG all over again.
I don't think people are worried about Biden's ego, they're worried that trying to elevate a new candidate just a few months before the election will not be successful, causing Democrats to lose the White House. What candidate has the name recognition Biden has?
HOST: Biden failed in every way at that debate... I dont know what else to say.
EVERYONE: Maybe start calling for Biden to step down before the convention so someone that can actually win the election is running.
No one else wants the job. Biden will keep steering the country in the right direction.
I really wish when Trump was going on about his golf trophies that Biden would’ve responded with: “the American people did not tune in to listen to you brag about participation trophies you gave yourself on your own golf courses.”
that's the point. Biden didn't have the wherewithal to do that. Instead he mumbled something about his own golfing handicap. It was embarrassing for him.
@@9000ck Biden could solve the age problem by stating the truth. Which is that the Presidency is NOT about one man. It is about the people he will appoint to the thousands of positions in our government, saying something like: “look yeah I’m old, and while I’m no spring chicken, the truth is that this race is not about me. It is about what kind of government you want. Do you want a government stacked by my opponents cronies and kids, like he did last time? Or do you want a government that I appoint honest good people that will wake up everyday to serve the American people!”
Bam age issue is addressed, while smacking Trump in the face.
shoulda wouda couda ..
"I'm not here to talk about golf, I'm here to talk about how we can help American families."
Hung a curve over the plate and he didn't just fail to hit it out of the park, he struck out.
But having late stage dementia makes it hard to throw out zingers like that.
The true loser of this debate was the American people. The fact that these two are the candidates speaks volumes about how far our nation has fallen from greatness. Even if one of them wins, unless the control both houses of government it will be 4 years of nothing getting done for either of them.
Four years of nothing getting done is the best case scenario that could come out of this.
Better than overthrowing the constitution and electing Trump King for endless terms like his friends Putin and Xi.
Who would have thought it...we all thought the biggest threat to democracy was the weapons of Russia and China...
when in fact its a corrupt and lying orange colored, gloried landlord.
On behalf of free people around the world, I would point out that we also lost this debate, and by the time we're done, possibly by a lot more.
I think we were mislead about Biden for too long by those that k rw the truth. Now I am terified
No matter how bad joe biden did, it doesnt change how awful the alternative is
Then we need an alternative to the alternative. Biden cannot win
@ebert8756 We can't rely on him winning but Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures.
It really does!!
That’s the point. So many people who would wipe the floor with Trump, the most hated man in the history of American politics.
You know that's right
"I didn't come away from this debate wondering if Biden can still do the job of president"
You didn't? My brother in Christ, I came away from this debate wondering if Biden can still do the job of tying his own shoelaces!
Seriously. I don't want him in office one more hour, let alone 4 more years. He has dementia. Its obvious now, and it was hidden from the American people. All our enemies are right now trying to figure out how to exploit us. I'll liberal and not a crazy trumpster... so if I am saying this, we are fucked.
Let’s all remember how we feel at this exact moment in time. Watching all the spin after the debate last night and today is only making an obvious problem worse.
One of two things needs to happen. 1. Remember the scene from Independence Day when Randy Quaid’s character kamikazes into the alien spacecraft to save humanity? Politically, that’s what Joe Biden needs to do ASAP. 2. Obama needs to take Uncle Joe to get some ice cream and tell him, for the survival of democracy, he must step down.
JILL BIDEN: If you’re reading this, please have a real moment with your husband and tell him stepping down is for the best. There is no spin. There is no recovery. We are running out of time.
we are a constitutional republic and the demonrats hate democracy.
Yea, kinda makes you question Jill Biden a bit. I know it's hard to admit seeing a loved one deteriorate, I've been there. But damn, stop being in denial and do the right thing.
We need age limits/term limits & psychological testing for Presidency, Congress, Senate & Supreme Court!!!
Our government has become Weekend at Bernie’s. It’s so sad that we can’t get the old politicians out of government. As president, how can Biden or Trump make decisions that affect us all.
term limits also.
Agreed. We have an age limit on when you can run, you have to be 34-35. So there should also be a cap.
because they're all bought. Money has kept them in power since they keep the status quo.
I agree with the idea, but an age-limit isn't the way to go. It depends on the person. How wonderful was RBG on the Supreme Court in her 90's!? I'd hate to have missed that just due to age. Term limits are probably the best way to go. If somehow candidates for high office could be vetted by psychologists, that would be a big thing. There are TH-cam's on this as a way to avoid getting crazy people into office (way too common in other countries, and now ours!) -- would also be good to avoid rapidly declining people into important positions. It's just hard to imagine how to implement such a thing, and harder to imagine getting agreement on it.
I've been That Guy who dismissed all the democratic party pearl-clutching, especially after Biden's strong happy-warrior performance at the State of the Union. But ten minutes into tonight's abortion of a performance and my partner and I, alarmed, mouths agape, decided to turn the debate off. It was too painful. It was actually sickening. Suddenly every worst nightmare was hyper-real.
Eventually we turned it back on. Biden was doing markedly better (but still not great). Imagine how many millions of voters stopped watching, never turned it back on, and internalized that Joe Biden is just too feeble to make it to the election, never mind the next four years. Hell, I'm wondering the same thing.
I love Biden's presidency. I was legit excited to vote for him again. But time is so short now. It's almost July. In a normal timeline, replacing an incumbent president this close to the election would be hysterically, logistically Herculean. It would throw everything into disarray, possibly handing Trump a victory. A nail in the country's coffin.
But nothing has been normal for years now. And I'm suddenly convinced that Biden must step aside and preside over an orderly nominating convention, because as insanely risky as that would be, it no longer seems more fraught than letting Biden remain our nominee.
Everyone close to the first couple should relentlessly hammer Jill Biden into getting Joe to step aside. His legacy will either be lionized for an unimaginably selfless gesture that saves the country, or for ignominiously making a selfish, egotistical choice that leads to the literal end of the greatest democracy in the history of the world.
You and your partner sound like fun guys! Your post was peppered with words like "hammer", "abortion", "mouths agape" "clutching" and so on!
Glad you two had a hot debate party!!!
Judged by 1 hour of your life wow
If he steps aside, Trump wins. Period.
Well said.
I did and felt the same. We have to do something?, Let's hope all Democrats and others who don't want Trump to destroy our country find a way.
Jill Biden talked to Joe like he was a damn child in kindergarten!
It does appear that way.
Because shes the one who convinced him to run again. Its her egos dream in competition with michelle. Theyve had drama for more than a decade.
@@jaz4742 wow
know her personally do you. ? Spare us YOUR drama
@gloriapomilia388 this drama was reported on years ago. You need only look it up. Jill has always been power hungry.
@@mccluremetalworks4214 Barak always said michele kept him in line.
BRO NO ONE BROUGHT UP PROJECT 2025?!?!
I swear CNN wants the death of America🤦🏻♂️
I'm caring for 2 parents with dementia and it was like watching them debate. I had to walk away several times.
My Mummy Dearest has become a Mean Girl who sounds lucid when she lies and says bat shit crazy stuff. On the other hand my sweet Dad stumbles on words, loses his train of thought and struggles with physical symptoms of both dementia and heart failure.
Bidens team is missing an opportunity when they keep letting Trump claim he beat covid. They never mention the estimated 100,000 who died before lockdown and untested while trump lied. They should be slamming him with his own words to Woodward from Feb 7th 2020 and contrast that to what he said and did publicly while Covid-19 ran rough shod across the country. This debate sucked the air out of my soul. I wanted a different candidate 2 years ago.
My Dad also had moderate dementia, and Biden does not have it. Joe Scarborough was just talking about spending three hours with Biden recently talking about every political issue, and Biden being completely lucid.
Biden has always struggled with speaking, and he simply cannot connect his thoughts to his mouth under high pressure anymore. In a relaxed setting where he has more time to formulate things, he is apparently still sharp.
That would not be true for a person with dementia.
His thinking is slower and his memory is not as good, but he can still do the job itself just fine. He just can't debate or do speeches that are improvised in the moment.
@premanadi yep. These little man boys here are like a frat group who's college football team had a bad showing tho the season has been extraordinary. Boo hoo. They're obviously mad bc they're embarrassed. President Biden meanwhile, does a 24/7 365 job that demands high level thinking, decision making even when he knows it's often the "not the worst" choice as there is no "best" while these little frat boys have the luxury of ranting - which will disappear if Trump and Mike Johnson have their way. They forget they're on air, not in a college dorm. Easy to be the arm chair QB, boys. Grow up.
This should be all we need to know to set age limits for running for high office. If you have to be 35 to run for President, then 70 is not unreasonable as a limit on the other end.
That's anti-democratic. The American people have a right to vote for whomever they please.
@@reginaldphillips7615 There are already requirements to run for president. One of those requirements is minimum age. How's adding a maximum age as a requirement not democratic? (BTW, I'd set the maximum age a bit higher, like 75)
@@pytl9 just because there are already requirements doesn’t mean we should add more. If we had that rule in place in 2020, we likely would have lost to Trump a second election in a row.
@@reginaldphillips7615 that's poor logic for keeping an age limit out. Unfortunately this is how a democratic republic works. Put up a better candidate that can get more votes.
@@reginaldphillips7615trump would have been over the age limit the op suggested...
Back to revisit this podcast after watching the DNC conclude last night. What a difference 1 month makes! Vote BLUE!!!
This is the worst debate performance I have ever seen. Trump is a pathological liar and gaslighter and no efforts were taken by the moderators or Biden to hold him accountable. This debate was an absolute nightmare.
Biden sort of tried. He said many, many times that everything Trump was saying was a lie. But he was not effective in countering those lies.
It was disgusting that Tapper didn't call out convicted felon's constant lies.
@@LeeMaiden he broke the kelly 'loser' story and let it slide ....
True. But we cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures.
The fact that you’ll expect moderators to argue in a debate shows how bias liberals are smh
What the Hell does a Golf Ball have to do with being the President of the United States of America?
NOTHING!!!!!!!!
Maybe it points to how damned much time trump spent on the golf course when he *was* President.
@@jvallasKeep crying 😂
Keep Crying 😂
Trump cheats at golf too. Liar cheat thief Vote Blue America 🇺🇸 🗽💙
Yeah, that moment was a HUGE missed opportunity for Biden.
Biden could’ve nailed Trump in that moment by responding, “I’m too busy doing my *JOB* as president, serving the American people, to have time for golf, unlike Trump who spent more time on the golf green than in the White House.”
::sigh:: Such a missed opportunity!!
As a Dem that loves Joe Biden, he needs to gracefully step aside & quickly so we can have a shot at keeping Trump out of office.
Should've forced him to not run 12 months ago. Didn't learn anything from RBG, didn't learn anything from feinstein. This should've been a cakewalk to a landslide trump defeat, but no the Dems wanted to take the most difficult, treacherous path imaginable bc they couldnt break out of political inertia early
Who should we replace him with though? Maybe a ticket with an old school Republican as the VP?
I tend to agree. He would salvage his legacy and the Dems would show that we are adults and not cultists.
@@thexanderthemanderHarris/Buttigieg.
@@thexanderthemanderor Harris/Kinzinger or Harris/ Cheney. I like that.
I'm here from the future to tell you people that things got much better now.
Joe is old but he is not an evil self absorbed narcissist. We as a country will cease to exist or have any hope if the conman is reelected.
The debate prep failed. Joe seemed lost as we all saw but the con lied incessantly.
a lie unchallenged becomes a fact ... you can't eat the fish that got away ...
@user-iw1hm8tx5v
We cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace Harris too, with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as Michigan's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022. This would help get votes from other Midwestern states as well.
I think they over prepared Biden. Anyone who's done that feels the pain. I think this podcast is unfortunately overly focused on 1 night vs the past 3plus years. Their ranting and determination to insult President Biden and those of us who see him as a hard working man is demeaning. They call me "ridiculous". Because I'm not concerned that the man running the country in a complex world can cont to do it. If they want to support President Biden, point out that and stop wailing and moaning and insulting voters w our own minds. I find this episode an embarrassment.
Wasn't he president before?
@@garthmanuel5701 Yes and Trump was the worst President ever.
It is still so maddening to live in a world where this bad debate performance is going to have ten times the effect as getting convicted of thirty four felony counts
Exactly
I was thinking that too. " I don't care if Trump is a convicted felon he was able to out debate Biden for one night" Just goes to show the failure of the United States Education system. Critical thinking skills are going extinct.
These people acting like being able to " lie convincingly" is a " needed Presidential skill" deserve a liar for their candidate. I don't care how well a conman can lie he remains a conman.
This
Yep. Spot on
The debate was an absolute disaster. I will still vote for Biden because I am voting for decency, women's rights, and democracy.
We can't rely on him winning but Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures.
And yet things are worse under Biden.
@@vernonfrance2974 hear hear….
I guess you now understand why some on the right will also vote Trump regardless of his "performance or behaviour".
Ultimately, all partisans are the same
Keep eating glue
This country has 255 million adult people in it. There’s no way these two are the best we have.
Many people want this job, but FEW can do the job. Joe Biden has never had a job in his life other than politics. You get a pay check regardless of your accomplishments. Biden has never ran a hot dog stand. He knows NOTHING about business and he was a lousy senator ... Delaware is one of the smallest states we have. He was lousy at his job then and he's lousy now! Whats the problem America? Get this guy gone!
You are correct. Only Biden is the best we have. He will continue in the right direction, and his administration is equipped to carry on if we lose him before his term ends.
Kamala is the best for us all!
Biden will lose by over 100 electoral votes. It’s a mathematic certainty.
Can not tell if this is sarcasm@@PAN77769
Still sticking with President Biden.
Please l live of my SS and l live where my money has value but the free world is losing the American dollars!!!
I am too but that looked rough, hopefully he’ll get better.
Me too, but I welcome a Whitmer/Moore ticket :)
@@javierramos9795Sure, people often suddenly improve at his age.
It’s called a dead cat bounce.
The ticket should step aside to vouchsafe America.
We can't rely on him winning but Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures.
Speaking as a moderate independent forced into the Democratic tent by Trumpism, the primary reason I moved is because the Democratic party can have this discussion on the fitness of their candidate, where the Republican party can't. The Democrats are capable of facing up to hard truths, and responding; the so-called "post-truth" party can't do that, and brought about the unnecessary deaths of half a million Americans.
The Democrats will find their candidate, and that candidate will crater Trump in a debate.
I agree. Who ever coached Biden for these debates did a terrible job. Biden isn't looking backwards to reinstate old policies that provided no protections for women's rights or moved jobs overseas, or allowed unfettered pollution of our air and water or allowed corporate CEO's, making hundreds of millions of dollars, to then deny workers the right to unionize. For the predatory corporations and billionaires who profit from past legislation, Biden is the worst president- - he empowers the working people.
They should have done that from the start. That’s what primary elections are for!
Now the voters will have their choices taken away from them by having a person chosen by the Democratic Party without a vote.
Realistically speaking, there isn't a single Democrat on the horizon who doesn't look like a gentrified dork.
@@maryhalverson5713. I agree. All this talk is noice until a name that can do better than Biden is set forth.
@@maryhalverson5713 unfortunately, the best option right now is to go with Kennedy and hope for a better candidate in 4 years. Kennedy is the only one who was speaking out against Biden's age and the DNC while not being a right wing lunatic. He's released a lot of videos on his TH-cam channel breaking down his platform in detail. He's the most coherent person running at the moment. A last minute substitute by the DNC just won't win at this point
I felt like I was going to throw up the whole time. We are in a-lot of trouble. If Biden was feeling sick they needed to delay it.
Best performance from Biden all year!
What do you think about the points Biden actually made. He has a better vision for America. And he did articulate it
Democracy is on the line. Trump is beatable. Biden is a great 1 term president. That legacy is gone if Trump gets back in...
@@jstambo478 But without subtitles very few people could understand him.
I know!!! Say he has lost his voice ffs
36:22
"A couple months is a lifetime in politics"
Indeed it is. Indeed it is.
How Much better would pete or Gavin have done? They would have destroyed Trump. We are so fucked😊
My vote for Pete!
Pete Buttigieg
That would be a great ticket... Newsom/Buttigieg
How so? Both of those fellas have the same failed policies.
I'm voting for mass deportations.
Exactly. Biden needs to step aside asap.
You guys are so right on. Biden did not step up to the plate and Trump is just plain scary. I am so concerned for our country. 😢
I almost wish i hadn't watched, how stressful!
Putting 2 80 year olds on tv past 5pm should be considered elder abuse.
allowing Biden to run is elder abuse.. how is a debate abuse but running the country not?
Why was it so late?
@@FannyVonFluffprime time on the East coast?! The most viewers = $$$ for CNN!
😂
These jokes are so obnoxious... Older people are adults and shouldn't be subjected to constant patronizing
Trump only sleeps 5-6 hours /night. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Not all 80 y/o's are the same.
I had a difficult time watching the debate. My concern is not Joe Biden's age it is rather how fast he's aging now
Have you ever had to tell an aging parent they can’t drive anymore? It is difficult, they don’t want to hear it, still believing they are fine drivers, but it is for the good of the community. Why on earth can’t the DNC urge Biden to drop out?
Who the fck do you think can replace Biden and beat Trump 4 months before the election? Who? Switching horses now is handing the election to Trump.
Because then they'd have to admit Biden is not competent to serve as POTUS. They are trying to get the media to do it for them.
I did this year. It was tough but not as bad as I feared, as thankfully they already knew. I think perhaps Biden knows
Heart Breaking. I'll vote blue till the tires fall off, but every single independent who was even 5% concerned about Biden's age has officially decided they're voting trump/3rd party.
I don't even know what to say. I really really really wanted Biden to do well. Even a 5/10 would have cut it and most people would have been able to hold their nose and vote against trump. But honestly, his performance was maybe a 2/10?
😭😭😭
not a chance this independent wouldn’t vote for wacko trump nor wacko kennedy, current admin is rocking it. we can’t afford another Maga nor Republican admin.
The tires fell off. Now what?
Save America
Deport Every Illegal
Trump 2024
I’m terrified that the tires are indeed now falling off. :/
I hate to say it, but a 2/10 seems a bit generous.
The real losers of this debate are the millions of Americans whose only options for a leader are two extremely old men who can’t coherently answer really easy questions
Jill Stein is already on the ballot in at least 23 states, just saying.
You have one old man who obviously has trouble debating, but he clearly knows his policies. The other guy doesn't have any policies, and can only harp on ridiculously obvious lies, because without that, he literally has nothing coherent to say.
@@brettgracey9682 no, what you have is an 800 year old war criminal, basically George Bush 2.0, and a 750 year old felon who should be serving time.
100% agree!
@@brettgracey9682 yes I thought biden did terribly but I found it disgraceful that trump kept on pivoting to immigration on literally every single question. when asked about childcare and the opiate crisis and pretty much everything else he talked about immigration. I get that that’s an important issue but it is so clear that his one and only policy position is just being against immigration, he doesn’t care about any other issue that affects the average working american
Love how the Pod has just now realized Biden would be 86 at the end of a second term. This has been staring us in the face for years.
Democrats demeaned and dismissed EVERYONE who raised concerns about Biden. 😢
What are your concerns about Biden?
He is the one who answered the questions while Trump claimed things that his MAGA voters want to hear even if those claims were blatant lies
@@gabs7506 That he has demnetia all along and has not been running the country. The debate just magnified that and the Dems / Media cannot hide it any longer.
He looks like he has dementia. He sometimes acts like someone in the early stages of dementia. Dementia can progress rapidly and he is putting himself up the the world's most important job for four years starting January coming. Most importantly, he is behind in the polls and needs to convince swing voters all this is nonsense. He did the opposite.
@@gabs7506 have you seen any of his public appearances over the last few years the dude is literally almost dead
I have never cried watching a pod save but it hurts seeing what we saw.
I love Biden, but we need to move on. Biden needs to step aside. The situation is like Ruth Bader Ginsburg situation all over again. . .
Maybe the trick is to remind Biden what people remember first about Ruth Bader Ginsberg: she refused to retire.
I said the exact same thing today
Perfect example of how Dems keep receding power to the corrupt Republicans - the game has changed and the focus is to stop the MAGA movement born from Russian & Republican propaganda and traitors like Mitch McConnell, Hawley, Jordan & the rest of the cult
You did this to yourselves.
Join reality. It exists outside your bubble.
I saw the first Biden answer and I punched out. I'm going to vote for Blue regardless, because I'm not voting for a pathological liar.
Laken Riley
You are voting for "The Pathological Liar".
The fact that you think Biden, over the course of his entire career, isn’t a pathological liar… on top of funding two wars currently, and letting millions of illegal immigrates pour into this country… is sad.
Its not about what you will do though (id still vote for him too), its about what everyone will do, and if things dont change i suspect everyone will stay home except the die hard trumpers. Unless something changes, it truly is over
I'm sorry but if you're still voting blue after this debate and after seeing what they did to our country, you need to get your brain checked. I mean that in the most respectful way possible
"Welcome to Pod Save America, I'm Exhausted"
Deserves more respect this joke
PLEASE tell the dem to change their ads from " send us money" to LOOK WHAT JOE HAS DONE VOTE FOR HIM DO HE CAN DO MORE
Biden doesn't need your vote or my vote. He needs the votes of undecided people in swing states. Not a single one of them would have been convinced by him given his performance today.
@jantate8890 We cannot rely on Biden winning. However, Governor Newsom is leading Trump by a much wider margin. Desperate times require desperate measures. We cannot have two Californians running on the same ticket. We need to replace Harris too, with someone like Gretchen Whitmer, a member of the Democratic Party, who was inaugurated on January 1, 2019, as Michigan's 49th governor. She was re-elected to serve a second term in 2022. This would help get votes from other Midwestern states as well.
@@vernonfrance2974reposting over and over doesn't make it true.
Sure, we’ll get right on it 👍🏼
Exactly
The question was about "child care" but they are both focused on golf😂 and who can carry their own golf bag, they are practically debating which one of them is older😂😂😂
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