What is the Truth Behind the Missing 411?
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- We are going on a deep dive into what Missing 411 is and critically looking at the project and its creator David Paulides. There are many videos that talk about the stories contained in the project but not many that talk about the project itself or Paulides. And trust me, there is a lot to talk about.
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It's bullshit. Paulides keeps talking about "boulder fields" at the base of mountains like they're some hiding ground for mythical creatures. In reality, they're just huge dangerous areas where boulders can roll, there's crevasses, ankle sprains, etc... Boulder fields just suck to traverse.
Yep. He talks about stuff that is common and/or dangerous as if they are these rare things that are so interesting that they keep showing up. One of the things I disagree with this video now vs when I made it, is I gave Paulides the benefit of the doubt. I concluded that he is, or at least was, a true believer and that gravy train of money is what’s keeping him perpetually on the edge of announcing new key evidence that will blow this whole thing wide open. After all of my research I’m not sure I agree with that takeaway. I’m leaning more toward this has always been a grift.
Recently I’ve been watching a lot of Lore Lodge. While I disagree with them about if this missing 411 is a thing or now, and I hope I showed why in this video, I do really appreciate that they are not afraid to call Paulides out for his bullshit.
18:24 He was charged, but he stepped down(retired) to avoid conviction. To this day he claims it's false, and will not address it.
Good to know. That’s why records of it seem to just end. And why it matches up so well with when he stopped being a cop. And I am sure he does claim it’s false, I think anyone would in that position.
I don't think there is some type of over lapping conspiracy involving all of these missing 411 cases but there is definitely some weird unexplainable circumstances involving at least some of them. People travelling impossible distances, the neatly folded clothes belonging to people that didn't bring extra clothes with them into the woods, deaths blamed on animals where there clearly wasn't a struggle... I'm not saying anything super natural is occurring, but it is really odd.
I am not saying they are not odd. But I am saying that these are not unexplainable if one had all the information, which we might not have, and the idea that hundreds or thousands of people go missing in national parks each year is not true, unless you are counting those who briefly go missing and are found very quickly which are not a part of these cases.
I still think there is invisible entities out there. There are too many that make literally no sense- esp the children found up steep inclines miles and miles away. And I don’t like David Paulides. But I can admit he’s on to something with many cases….
It's only a mystery because he doesn't give the audience all the information.
moon cycles seem to be a very coincidental factor in many cases, but in the same could be said that the missing all had hands and feet
Check out David’s responses to criticism in his Amazon book reviews. His early responses were very telling at what a jerk he is
So what. No one is perfect when critized. He's learned to deal with criticism much better over the years.
I just popped in to let you know you're grasping at straws thinking Palidis is a scammer...you're just looking for views. He's been around way longer then you and will definitely be around after you're done on TH-cam lol...
You popped in to a channel that hasn't posted anything for over a year now, just to say they are looking for views??? Again, the village is that way ----------> Oh yeah, tell your 'leader', I'll debate him any day of the week.
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DP has found his little niche and is making a lot of money from this, shame he misses out essential and truthful facts
A lot of money. Doubtful. He’s now moved to Missing Truckers. Whatever sticks to the wall is DPs MO.
What's up with all that disgusting smacking noise he constantly does?!
You are wrong. Because. Aliens. (Kidding)
Well, you see, Bigfoot clearly can be traced back to Enkidu who was clearly one of the Nephilim, from the Torah which can only be aliens…
@@waywornwyrm8135 but you may actually be correct. Lol
Paulides is a professional story teller. He's definitely found a niche there. The bard, Paulides.
If the condition for being a missing person is that someone is worrying about your whereabouts, I've been a missing person since the first time I was allowed out of my mother's sight 😆 Great video!
Thank you. If someone was trying to make the highest number of missing people possible they would take that and count you. There is a very real discussion to have around things like that.
For another example about 12 years ago a guy living in Yellowstone National Park went to get his mail and was mauled by a bear that had been moved by rangers due to danger to humans (why they left said bear within sight of this guy’s house I’ll never know). During this fatal mauling the guy had a massive heart attack that killed him faster than the bear was. Did that guy get killed by a bear or by a heart attack? Officially he died from a heart attack. Yellowstone has every incentive to keep the number of people killed by bear as low as possible.
" WayWorn " Thank You for looking into Paulides !! I am about 70 % through the video. I will watch the rest after I leave this comment. This is July 12 , 2024 . For months now , Paulides is making the ridiculous claim that whatever "takes" these people , they prefer GERMANS !! I sent Paulides a message and pointed-out the fact that the largest White ethnic group in the U.S.A. IS Germans , so they would be the largest number of missing prople. Paulides ignored my facts and CONTINUES to claim that the abducters PREFER Germans. Thank You for investigating this deceitful jerk !!
Paulides is a fraud. He has a personality that is very needy for acceptance and for importance... it’s a sad shame that he is so needy for stature in media. Ego driven! 😉
Really interesting analysis - the at-first alluring eerieness of missing 411 is revealed to be pretty silly in parts here. you turn the guy's self-proclaimed research acumen against him here, so bravo.
This is your first video I've seen, but after you briefly admitted there was ~something to this pattern (for example, the folded-up clothing speaks to something incredibly chilling) I'd be very curious for you to steelman Paulides' (not "polite-iss" - I'm pretty sure it's Greek, "paul-eedeez") point, just in the spirit of Socratic method
cheers and thanks for the great vid
David Paulides says that he is half-Greek , one-quarter Russian , but he hasn`t said what the remaining quarter is.
He's pronouncing Paulides correctly,as that's how David himself pronounces it.
@@jrambo7495 then I stand corrected and I apologize for being a poindexter about it
@@buildings_and_food to be fair, I'm sure David is mispronouncing his own last name. I've noticed through the years that he mispronounces simple words. I'm not a fan of him personally but I'm entertained by his content.
I'm a couple years late on catching this video, but well done. A huge red flag for me which really solidified my suspicion of him, is his refusal to defend his stance. That would be impossible because he will never be able to abide criticism. I had my doubts about him from the start, anyway. I enjoyed your work, late as i was.
Exactly! If you're not feeding his ego in the comment section of his videos,then you're a 'hater' and he deletes any said comments.
Excellent if Not Outstanding, I have Watched Most of David Paulides, for years!! Hmm!! I was a wee Suspcious certain parts of His presentation at times. Unfortunately, He is having Trouble with TH-cam. Presently!!! I am NOT A FAN HIS " MISSING 411. Can be Scary!! A lot of His personal Domestic issues also presented to the World at Large!!! Does He want Sympathy!!
He can be ZEALOUS about Big Foot & MISSING 411. Thanks for the DEEP DIVE!!! Cleverly Presented. GREAT STUFF 😊.
Would love for you to do a deep dive on Melba Ketchum. Well done on this video. I think the whole bigfoot, missing 411 world looks a lot like Qanon.
I have been working on that video for about a year now. It’s been surprisingly tough. I just need to finish some final thoughts on it, then record, edit, and upload. I’m hoping to finish that soon.
@@waywornwyrm8135 Melba may be a fraud, but her son Ash has done some great work in animal conservation
As an avid berry picker with some german ancestry, I'll report back once i see something weird out there in the fields. Nothing so far, if you don't count slug piles after the rain 😎 i do hope to wake up with unaccounted for berries in my basket if i unexplainably fall asleep, though.
David Paulides has created a niche. Instead of investigating he sits back and write books and make up elaborate stories and pocket money from you tube.
Just a minor note aout something you said near the end--Paulides doesn't sell his books on Amazon and has frequently told people not to buy them there, because the selelrs charge three to four times what he sells them for on his site.
A lot of your other points, though, definitely are important indicators that people shouldn't idolize him and should use critical thinking when taking in things he says.
Yes. David Paulides was a serious Bigfoot researcher before he stumbled into this gig. That should tell us something. That and he strings the audience along with vague patterns and directions that only superficially unite cases and there are never any solid conclusions. My favorite is when he highlights how a lot of bodies are found without clothes and how it would have made no sense to strip in such cold weather. That’s advanced hypothermia. People get delirious and feel hot when there’s really no heat. Stripping in that state is a big mistake but it’s pretty common. Any trained forest ranger would know that.
I think D.P dyes his hair .... Please look into it and see if my suspicions are true.
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2.2 million divided by 700 is 3,142. That’s not tens of thousands.
Very good . I never trusted the shifty eyed disgraced ex cop.
Hey guys, you need to open them closed minds.You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you in the face. I guess you believe Sasquatch is fake.😂
David is weird. I unsubscribe... Im not feeling this guy......I agree.. He dont talk about the messed up system...And it seems like hes holding back imfornation...I dont know... Im glad im not the only one thats not feeling this man.. Thank You.. Peace
and you said no cases were that they were found on the other side of the usa in 6 days, but there was a firefighter from toronto where I'm from who was on a vacation in new york skiing, and he went missing, turned up on a california mountain without his car or anything. He thought he was still in new york when they found him. Check that case out its insane.
Vagina makes a man do crazy things...
Sounds to me like he had one hell of a drug trip, homie, or a mental break down.
sounds like Gabby Patito or whatever.
Dave Palides covered that one if I recall. It was a strange event.
He ran off with a woman, he had an affair.
can you add chapters please on long videos incase I want to skip who david is, I'm watching already but next one it would be helpful for people
You don't want hear that David Paulides may or may not have peed his pants in the 7th grade? No worries because you won't because we can't verify it. Regardless of the truth missing 411 the guy exaggerating his bio blurb on his website is hardly surprising. And calling an A.M.A he did on some forum his biography over and over again does not make it so..
Or all the math that was done from the starting point of him claiming he was 40 years old. What if.. follow me here.. what if someone in their mid 40's maybe even 50 said they were 40 years old in some blog or forum or something. 😂
It's great 411 will always listen to david
Me too. Love his presentations no matter what others do to criticize him.
Gasp I didn’t know you had a TH-cam as well!
I’ve had it longer than my Twitch.
@@waywornwyrm8135 that doesn’t mean I knew about it lol
In addressing the “would like to see a child psychologist…” first off it wouldn’t be included in any police report what a psychologist found out either. Thats a stupid argument to prove legitimacy because it’s traumatizing to relive the experience, just for your curiosity- adult or child. Second its a HEPA thing. Third, alot of Paulides stories are from the 30’s-60’s when psychology was not what it is today, some even as the late 1800’s. He doesn’t do alot of recent disappearances due to open investigations and not meeting a criteria he developed to qualify as a 411 case. Frankly, do what Paulodes did and write the national forest or do a Freedom of Information reqst and see if they release any info on missing persons in a particular national forest area. See what you get. If you get full disclosure, then discredit David. I dont believe someone watching cryptid YT or movies is really the BIG creditability to discredit anyone, but they are welcome to an opinion of course. And its ok to not believe in anything.
I made a really long reply addressing each of your points but there really is only one thing to reply to in the end.
That is a really long comment to end it with you don’t find me credible because of my choice of entertainment. Beyond how bizarre I find that, it’s even worse since watching that content means I have no credibility but a man who’s entire career and public view is built on creating that type of content has credibility.
I can honestly say that I have no idea how you give credibility to anyone or anything based on that.
I used to believe until I found out aron hedges was an alcoholic with a script for Xanax, he doesn't mention this.
Bobby Bishop was molested and died alone after. He keeps sooooo much info out of his "stories". Many he says have not been found by searchers just get home alive when he implied they died .
Missing was orignally just the US state parks out west, then all over the US parks, the all over the US, then all over the world, just like his Bigfoot sightings! .... and after writing books, he says he doesn't say Bigfoot did anything !!! I mean, please!
It has nothing to do with Dave, this is an international phenomena, and its real.
Agreed.
9 minutes in and you're still in the introduction, hard pass. Minutes of fluff and intros are ruining what youtube was supposed to be.
He did a new missing 411 alien connection.
False
I love Dave Paulides. He has done some fascinating work and the true stories are always interesting. His open ended non explanations allow for lots of speculation. I think you are not open minded and cannot leave your comfort zone of ideas.
"It's so improbable!" Yeah, when you have a large sample size improbable things happen.
If you take all the outliers and create one data set, of course it's going to look weird
Exactly. ~40,000 “cases” in all time where the National Parks have hundreds of millions of people a year, of course in a sample size that big you can find really crazy shit happening.
great vid, Wyrm!
Glad you enjoyed it!
TH-camr trashing a youtuber. Glass houses man. Long.. Really said nothing. Dave p points out unexplainable, logic defying, documented occurances. Yes, no explainations, because there is none. Only a few possiblities..none, that fit into academic standards. You've left out the usual words of imitation authority whilst trashing..psuedo, quasi, alleged & estranged. Usually spoken by those who've done nothing! to degrade others.
He doesn’t point out unexplained, logic defying, documented occurrences. He would also probably disagree with you calling him a TH-camr.
He claims things and then says “Trust me, I was a detective.” And my entire video is about why he is not as trustworthy as he tries to come off as. Including, but not limited to, there is zero proof he was ever a detective.
What's really weird is that everyone I've seen covering the “David Paulides has been lying to us” controversy has stopped uploading to YT, and that they stopped after posting their video on this subject.
At least with me it is a coincidence. I am having a lot of trouble with my next video and my life is a lot more busy now than it was when I started the David Paulides video.
Glad to hear you're well and keeping busy. All the best with the next video, I look forward to seeing it. @@waywornwyrm8135
It must be BIGFOOT!
lol Of course!@@briancrawford8751
I'd suggest you do a double check. Missing Enigma and Zealous Beast, are two channels that shred Paulides.
First, your voice is unbearable- that growly fry. I couldnt make it through even though I was curious. Second, its obvious you have not looked into this deeply. He has written, six or seven books. Read them.
I have a question for you, why did you feel the need to write this comment? You just posted on a multi year old video personal attacks.
@@waywornwyrm8135 ummmm....it popped up on my feed. Nuff said
@@waywornwyrm8135 Just jumped to my feed to, I wouldn't worry about the influx of his fans. You did well and made a great case. They will never be able to examine things objectively and will attack you out of being ignorant. Don't sweat the goblins in comments sections.
I never heard of you and your hating on Dave, he's an ex cop who now investigates missing people. That's all he said or that's all he claims, That's it! You make it sound like he brags about his past. If he makes money or not, what does that got to do with anything? Your tripping on nothing, raise your hand if your jealous!! Hahaha😂!
He is a disgraced ex cop that turned to grifting anywhere he could, to make a living. From fraudulently soliciting autographs from celebrities while employeed as a cop, to a DNA scandal while attempting to being a bigfoot 'author', and now he misrepresents many real missing person cases to create his '411' BS. He has no respect for the missing, or deceased, and the families thereof.
I’m not sure what “I’ve never heard of you” is supposed to convey. I have a small channel, I’m always more surprised when someone has heard of me than when they haven’t.
No, I’m not hating on Dave, as you call him. I grew up around cops, I had several in the family, and as such being a cop, or an ex-cop doesn’t give someone more or less credibility with me. The problem is he claims he was a detective who quit being a cop. As I go over in the video, which I am sure you watched all of, there is no evidence that he was ever a detective and unless he rose through the ranks very quickly there really wasn’t much time for him to be one. And I don’t know he he quit or was fired, but he left policing when charged with what amounts to corruption.
I’m also not convinced he searches for missing people. He has a tiny number of “cases” that even if they all happened in the same year they would be less than one tenth of one percent of everyone who visits US National Parks. As other people have pointed out in these comments he lies about the circumstances at least sometimes, and is always a “few months” away from being able to release information that proves him right, he just needs your help to keep him going until then.
@@waywornwyrm8135 When someone says you are, 'hating on Dave', they are most likely a villager. They bring no facts to the table, just their 'feelings'.
@@deerichardz David Paulides is a God, and anyone who criticizes him or calls out his bullshit is a blasphemer!
In all seriousness, his fan base is really just full of bullies who never think for themselves. Any criticism of David is just you being a hater in their eyes, as well as being jealous. Then they throw a personal attack and end it with a laughing emoji to show off how smug and condescending they are. They don't seem to realize that they tarnish the image of their favorite "investigator" even further than David does himself which I find amusing. Another weird thing is how they refer to him as "Dave" as if he's a good friend of theirs despite not knowing him. My uncle is neck deep into David Paulides' and Steve Isdahl's bs and talks about them as if he personally knows them, even quoting their political comments as if they are an authority on such things. It's hard to not see it as some sort of cult at this point. It also appears to be willful ignorance.
@@grimmleaf2291 You nailed it to a tee!!!
Until to talk to him face to face and he and you put the facts down. You should Shut Up!! This is a Scam!!
Tha facts have been put down. And yes, the '411' is a scam.
David paulides is a hero for bringing up these missing cases that no one else cared about.
He’s not. He’s a liar. And I have yet to see a case that he talked about that doesn’t have a resolution that no one cares about. Not that he will tell you that.
You sound like LOP, get over it. You dont like his biography so that means what?
It is a concern to me of the age limit that are watching this program, if children they will get very scared.. from skinwalker ranch to aliens abducting people, portals and sasquatch. terrifying thoughts when mom and Dad say lets go camping or for hike..
It would be great if parents just tell their kids that bigfoot and skinwalkers don't exist, but bears certainly do.