Are Sticker Autos A Stain On The Hobby?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Everyone loves autographed cards, but not everyone loves sticker autographs on their cards. In this episode the Spitballin' team debates if sticker autos have a place in the hobby and if we would collect them. Some team members passionately say no, while others think there may be a path forward for sticker autos in some circumstances.
Any cards I get signed in person are always for my PC and more of a memento for me when I'm an old man. Like Jeff noted, I've also been on a kick of picking up authenticated signed notecards even of HoF players/managers that have been long since passed. It's like I have my own little Cooperstown, learning the history of the sport -- helps me feel connected to those old legends.
Love that collection idea! Thanks for sharing.
Chris here - that’s what PC items are all about!!
It is so easy to get a card autographed by a baseball player. I had Carlos Correa sign a SSP that I got for $5. Now it is super valuable to me. Not a rookie, but a cool looking card. Stickers do absolutely nothing for me when I can get the cards I want autoed anyway.
That’s great! And I completely agree.
Chris here - I’m working on a project getting jumbo cards signed. I’m very excited for these in my PC.
Thanks for watching and commenting
really awesome discussion. As someone who is just getting into the hobby with lower end cards, y'all have been super helpful
Thanks for watching and glad we can help in any way!
Agree with Phil and Scott. It has to do with the manufacturer. Also getting complacent with continuity. Can’t snob the card if it’s rare and relevant.
Chris here - I agree, if the card is rare enough, like the 2018/19 topps update variations, I can live with it.
But very few exceptions
I can’t imagine going to a auto session or meeting a player at a game and to see them just slapping sticker autos on everything 😢
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This!
Good stuff as always guys. I'm pretty much a no on sticker autos. Also, personally not a fan of vintage cards being autographed. It often times makes the card look too 'busy'. Would I take a psa 5 52 Mantle signed or a psa 7? I'll take the 7 any day of the week.
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I think stickers are great in affordable products, especially for people that can't afford some of these things.
Chris here - I totally agree with this. Value is one reason I love Stadium Club autos. They’re always on card and a few months after releases, the prices are very affordable.
Even now there are great autos of Glavine and Dale Murphy (Braves fan) from 2023 stadium club that won’t break the bank.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
😃 on card Auto when pulled 😐 sticker auto when pulled. I'd much rather have on card but I'm not totally against stickers in certain situations. Like 80% on card to 20% sticker autos when opening product but I never really buy stickers for PC. Sticker autos are like your cousin you seen twice a year and at first you'd try to avoid him but by the end of the day you find it he's not that bad but know you can carry on just fine without seeing him more twice a year. Thanks again for another great video
Haha, love the analogy! thanks for watching and commenting!
Hahaha - excellent analogy!
As much as I hate sticker autos, having auto's in products is better than not having autos. Would you rather open up 10 blaster boxes for an on card auto or mix in sticker auots so there's an autograph every 5 blasters? With that said, putting a sticker auto on anything numbered /50 or less should be a criminal offense, right to jail
Chris here - I’d rather have fewer autos, and all on card. It makes them more special.
I’m right there with you with on the lower numbered stuff. I HATE that the chrome insert autos in stadium club are stickers.
I think about 2018 Chrome update and I’d rather have the Soto gold refractor non auto, than one with a sticker slapped on it.
What about you?
I'd vote for fewer autos, all on-card. I'd much rather pull a rare insert or cool parallel than a sticker auto.
TOPPS HERITAGE BABY!!!!!!! Everything is on card. Also some of the best variations in the hobby.
Yes! And so many great dual autos!
Heritage Red Inks are some of the best autos in the hobby!
I have always loved Heritage. Those Red Inks are some of my all time favorites!
I don’t care for sticker autos. Would you put a sticker auto on a vintage card? Probably not so why would you put it on a modern card.
Chris here - I totally agree. If you put a sticker auto on a baseball, would anybody consider that baseball autographed??
The only reason I am okay with it is due to it being pack issued, but that is an excellent way to look at the silliness of stickers!
One aspect of sticker autos I’m in the middle about is when someone signs such a volume of sticker sheets that it can sustain card companies for years (and honestly, we’d probably never know about it).
Imagine a player debuting in 2021 and they sign an absurd amount of sticker sheets (they need the money, or whatever the reason in this theoretical would be) and throughout 2021….. 2022…. 2023….. maybe even 2024, you’re still pulling a sticker auto from that 2021 session.
It’s also apparent of a star player who signed an amount of sheets and then passed.
Diego Maradona passed in 2020 and sticker autos of his were in 2022/23 soccer product (and maybe the last few sticker autos might be rationed out for a few more years).
Stan Musial passed in 2013, but it looks like he still had sticker autos as recent as 2022 !
Ugh. Exactly.
There are some Mookie Betts sticker autos in 2015 Topps Opening Day - Almost certainly because they were left over from 2014.
Mookie hasn’t signed for topps since!
Thanks for watching and commenting!!
@@SpitballinCards Some good lunchtime viewing down here in Australia :)
@@TenaciousAC oh awesome!! Glad to hear we’ve reached an international audience!
I’m fortunate enough to have been to Australia. Absolutely loved it!!
Really enjoyed the topics in this episode! Overall, believe any collector would prefer on-card over a sticker auto. However, to each their own. Collect what you enjoy whether it's an on-card auto, sticker auto, or no auto. Question to the SC team: what are your thoughts on getting vintage cards autographed by HoF'ers? Do they increase the value or do you think it's consider marking/damaging the card since it wasn't a card that was manufactured for a certified auto?
Chris here - vintage autos like that can be very cool. There weren’t pack
Pulled autos in those sets, so bold autos can really add something.
Thanks for watching and commenting !
In my PC I only have 1 sticker auto, and he only has the MLB debut patch auto thats on-card (Andruw Monasterio). When I was looking for a Jordan Love rookie auto last month, I went for the on-card playbook patch auto for half the price of his prizm sticker auto. Stickers just look cheap to me, but if its my only option (like 2023 sapphire) then it is what it is.
Chris here - I can’t tell you how much I hate what topps did to 2023 Sapphire Update.
2022 update had limited autos - 41 per player - and all on card. Probably those guys’ best rookie autos.
2023 they added more parallels, all stickers, bigger rainbow. But all meh.
I’d avoid them and got for high number heritage real ones instead.
Love that nettles at the end! Cool cards!
I very much prefer on card auto's. ESPECIALLY in high value sets. Example, National Treasures should NEVER have sticker auto's for as much as you pay for that product.
Right?! How do they justify sticker autos on any high-end products -- or low-number parallels. Thanks for watching!
Chris’s favorite cards are Topps signature series sticker autos
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Going off what jeff was saying about rather waiting for a redemption than a sticker…….now in 2023 half the redemptions we wait on from topps end up coming with a sticker on them anyway 🤣🤣 it’s ridiculous now
That is a great point. Redemptions that are stickers should be banned haha. Thank you for watching!
Yes! Sticker redemptions are the epitome of laziness by the manufacturers! Thanks for watching!
That is ABSURD!!
We also need to get rid of expiration dates on the redemption cards. Come on!!!
Topps needs to be more innovative, they’ve gotten lazy since they’re the only option for licensed cards. Donruss used to have the silver stickers (like Phil mentioned) on a much thicker cardstock (Look at about any 2004 Molina RC auto) and the sticker would usually be hidden inside the card, it looked much better and as a kid you didn’t even realize it was a sticker.
That would definitely look better!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
With any auto-ed card, I'm mostly looking for the actual player contact with the product so I'm OK w stickers although on card is definitely better. Regarding IP autos, I don't trust the authentication services AT ALL and believe there are hordes of $5 cards selling for $100 because nobody is really scrutinizing this part of the hobby.
Chris here - I’m with you in the last part. Autos are too easy to fake.
Butt one of the reason I love on card autos is because you know the player held it or at least touched the card. Not just a sheet of scotch tape!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I own a 2012 topps museum dual patch /5 auto Verlander and the sticker looks great and belongs! My TTT relic auto out of 9 JV is sticker too…looks ok, would be much better on card.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
That’s a cool card! But I think you’re right…
Sticker autos are there for a reason… they should try to limit them. I got 2 in card autos from Bobby, his Mullet SP and a Blue Black/Gold my son pulled from a rip at the 23 national. Buying in person autos seems silly but that’s me.
Chris here - agree with you on in person autos. Can be great PC items but can’t imagine buying a modern in person auto, with all the autos in sets now.
Sticker autos were originally created to allow for card companies to replace damaged cards.
Then some bright people figured out they could save the company a lot of money.
The original signed sets, as opposed to rare inserts, came out in the last 90's and players had little trouble signing
thousands of cards (some loser players had friends "help" get them signed and as there was no witnesses it happened.
Players today get paid too much money to bother with it anymore, so they often get contacted after getting drafted
and sign pages upon pages of stickers for a small amount of money. These stickers are then used for years.
For HOF players they get used even after the player has died. At that point, the ridiculousness of saying its a signed
card really hits home.
Thankfully, for most sports, the ability to sign a piece of memorabilia by slapping a sticker on it has never caught on.
I personally no longer by sticker autos if there is an alternative unless we are talking rookie year stuff.
I made an exception recently to get a Chuck Norris auto from Leaf for example, and I likely paid too much given that
more of them are coming onto the market.
For card companies that do, do sticker auto products, they really need to make the cards unique in some fashion to prevent
fraud. Some of the earliest cards to have autographs were just the same card only autographed and maybe embossed with a seal
that was not hard enough to fake.
If you make your cards too cheap eventually you damage you brand.
Hey man, thanks for watching and commenting. That Chuck Norris card sounds cool and if there aren’t any on-card options, your hands are tied!
I agree completely they sticker autos on baseball cards - especially when there are thousands of on card autos every year - just look cheap and cheapen the brand. Like 2923 sapphire update. Went from high end brand to crap in my (Chris here) opinion.
I listened to this episode the other day and then i picked up a blaster of topps 2024 series 1. As i was listening to this and going through the boxi pulled my first sticker auto! Its a postseason Jose Urquidy sticker auto.
Hey, pulling any auto out of a blaster is a win! Congrats and thanks for listening!
While I do prefer on-card autographs, I feel like sticker autos still add rarity to a card. Jeff mentioned in-person autos, I do not collect those because they were not pulled out of packs that way. Sticker autos add another parallel of rarity. I will make exceptions for junkwax Era and older rookies for in-person autos.
Yeah I think in-person auto cards for your PC have a place (maybe a card you really like, maybe the image is from a game you were at, maybe you got to meet the player) and also like you said, for players who played before autos were included in packs. Thanks for watching!
Chris here - the only sticker autos I can really stomach are from 2018-19 topps and topps update. Topps put stickers on maybe 5 copies of each SP/SSP. Really tough to find these!
Thanks for watching!
I like sticker autos of course I prefer on card but it`s still an auto and a dude touching a piece of cardboard doesnt make the difference for me at least not to the point of hating stickers. Thanks for the episode even if it was a short one :(
That’s fair.
Chris here - on card just seems more personal. Not like it’s game used, but at least the player did hold it and sign it. Not like a sheet of scotch tape.
But to each their own. Tons of different avenues for collectors!
Speaking of in person card autos, I saw someone on eBay selling an in person auto of Julio Rodriguez Topps heritage, using a red marker and it looked identical to the actual red ink auto. He even went as far to get it graded by PSA and an authentic auto
Yes, I've seen this, too! It's infuriating. New people in the hobby are getting hoodwinked. 🤬
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin oh yeah, this card specifically sold for close to $500. Feel bad for the buyer, the seller listed it as RED INK AUTO as well to be as misleading as possible
Shady shady people out there. We have to be careful.
Depending on the wording, I wonder if that card would fail ebay authentication.
Those autograph seekers at airports are cringe. They're the type to lean over kids at spring training to get autos. Smh
Ugh - brutal, right???
I’ve only made a few exceptions on stickers autos based on rarity for the most part I prefer on card and Philmington’s and Scott’s POV was definitely one of my preference
Chris here - me, too Alan. I currently have 2.
An Austin Riley and a Betts.
On card all day!
Thank you, Alan, I appreciate it!
I think a sticker auto on a ball would be absolutely ridiculous.
Chris here - 100%
So why is a card different??
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I prefer on card. It means the player at least touch the card. When it's a sticker, he's just signing a ton of stickers. He never touches the card
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Chris here - I couldn’t agree more. If you put one of these stickers on a ball,
Would anybody say the ball was autographed??
Not the biggest fan of sticker autos but if a set like 2023 topps chrome sapphire update doesnt include any on card, making them all sticker then so be it. I will still buy the player i want regardless of the sticker. With sets that u can choose for on card or sticker then it will always be on card. Not a tough choice there
Chris here - I can’t tell you how much I hate what topps did to 2023 Sapphire Update.
2022 update had limited autos - 41 per player - and all on card. Probably those guys’ best rookie autos.
2023 they added more parallels, all stickers, bigger rainbow. But why? So they could put one per box. It’s a waste.
I’d avoid them and got for high number heritage real ones instead. Or some of guys in sapphire update have on card autos in chrome update - guys like Eury Perez and Bobby Miller.
I know it’s sapphire, but I’d still avoid those sticker autos. So many better on card options out there!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great discussion as always. I do buy stickers if the on card price is exorbitant. Also very much dislike silver autos. Very messy distracting color. Looks like scribbles every time.
Thanks for watching! Sometimes I like silver, but I get the dislike, too.
I just got back into the hobby this winter... Pulled a volpe red ink out of heritage out of a blaster box. Then i saw that they do stickers. Thats a shame. Learning about what the business is one piece at a time
That red ink is awesome!! Amazing pull! Congrats. One great thing about heritage is all the autos are on card. No stickers!
Welcome back to the hobby!
Fee free to hit me up with any questions!
I’m @baseballcardaddict on IG.
It's definitely a learning process -- thanks for watching, glad we are a part of your return to the hobby!
Agree that sticker autos are an abomination 98% of the time. But like your Soto, Scott, or a product like Topps Chrome Update where on card signatures are too difficult to obtain on a timely basis, stickers have a place.
Now, what Panini does with sticker autos is an insult to collectors.
I pulled a dual auto /20 Trout/Ohtani from 2022 Topps chrome sonic (an otherwise terrible product). And I’m torn about holding vs selling because the autos are stickers. (It’s my only Ohtani… and I don’t want to risk not getting his auto down the road. Thankfully, i did luck into a Bowman Sterling on card Trout /99 that will be in my collection forever.)
Nice pull! And I hear you on being torn on such a cool card -- even if it is a sticker, it's hard to part with.
Chris here - for those 2018 topps chrome updates, I’d honestly prefer the non autos. The stickers hurt the card IMO.
If I need a Soto auto, I’d rather have the heritage or the bowmans best. Both on csrd!
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I love hearing other people’s opinions on cards.
They should just give you the loose sticker Auto, so you can put on what ever you want. You could choose to put it on a different card of the player or memorabilia or on your refrigerator if you choose
😂😂😂 I mean, why not???
My 2 cents worth: An autographed sticker is just an autographed sticker. Why not promote toilet paper with a hall of famer sticker on the cardboard spool?
Chris here - now you’re talking!! Couldn’t agree more
Stickers don’t bother me much but on card is generally better. I have a few sticker auto cards i like quite a bit. For my collecting I prefer overall card appearance, sometimes no autograph.
Idea for Chris and Jeff: lets see you finally purchase your beloved opening day variations with stickers auto and PEEL THEM OFF on camera 😎
😂 I don't have to many Opening Days, but man, if the sticker auto was cheaper than the non-auto, I like where your heads at!
I think we see eye to eye. Thank you for watching!
One day you will come around on IP autos. They are the best.
I definitely see the apeal of them! The main issue that I have is that a majority of the players I collect already have quite a few live autos so it doesn't feel as necessary. I can totally see the appeal for players who don't sign often! Thank you for watching!!
Chris here - only for a pc item. Not for resale value. No point. So many sets have autos in them now.
But I’m working on a couple of items with IP autos that I’m excited about.
Thanks for watching g and commenting!
@@SpitballinCards It is more complicated than your response, and there is certainly resale value when it comes to IP slabbed rookie cards, especially iconic cards. For example, checkout the various prices on slabbed and graded IP autos on Griffey’s 89 UD RC. Btw, love your show. Great to have a thought provoking video leading to so many varying responses.
@@whatmighthavbeenlost the Griffey card is iconic and it’s one with no pack pulled autos - BUT there are soooo many copies of that card. Griffey is still singing and will be singing for years so how many of those cards will be autographed by 2030??
I like the idea and meeting him at a show and having him sign one could be fun.
But paying for one?? Idk. I couldn’t do it. Could be thousands of them eventually.
Same with trout! I’d much rather pay up for a trout Finest rookie auto.
@@SpitballinCardsyea but there a millions of non autos. I think that’s the point. You can add something to make it rarer. You can also make IP cards unique with pen choice and inscriptions. I am biased though because I do collect NBA 75 signed RCs
On card autos absolutely done for the 1/1 and the serial numbered cards say to 50. Sticker autos should be meant for the higher serial numbered cards or the non serial numbered cards. I still buy both, but the on card autos look better and you have that value that the player touched the card. I like in person autos for the memory of meeting the player and the experience surrounded it, so those cards would be for my PC. Now what are you thoughts on the actual auto? A lot of modern are disappointing because if the auto wasn't on the players card, you wouldn't be able to connect it to a player. Is this is because of the casual culture or that the players are asked to sign a million cards? Take a minute and look back at some of the older cards and the autos are pretty clear and sharp. Lastly, the Juan Soto auto that Scott showed is a nicely done auto. Maybe you guys could do a show about the auto quality? Thanks for the show and listening to my rant.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Chris here - auto quality is definitely important. Not streaky, all on the card, even a nice looking signature - think Mariano Rivera, Griffey, - goes a long way. Some guys take their time. Other have to sign 20k+ cards and it just get boring and repetitive.
hey I will take the sticker autos if people dont want them.
You know, when you're paying $650 a box of 2023 prison basketball. You better at least have two On card autographs. I don't even think I'd pay $200 for a box of 2023 prizom basketball. What a joke.
Its funny if you get it signed in person you know its a real auto, versus topps or panini telling you its authentic when they dont even witness the signings. Anthony Richardson prizm comes to mind
AR signed during topps rip night and also for panini during nba all star weekend. u can compare and figure it out yourself. he even helped waiters after the nfl players made a mess. hes a class act person. so your logic is flawed.
In person autos are great for our PC’s. But for resale? I dont see the appeal.
Unless it’s vintage!
It's a hard pass on sticker autos for baseballs. Cards....different story. I just wish that the card companies should avoid stickers all together.
Thanks for watching!
Sticker autographs offer little value. Period.
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Dale Murphy is the man and should be in the hof
Back to back MVPs and one of the best players of the 1980's.
I think they belong in blasters and mega boxes mostly. It’s underwhelming to buy a chrome box for $150 and get a sticker auto of a B tier player
They don't belong at all. Neither do redemptions
EXTREMELY underwhelming!!
In 40 years. You will have all these PSA holders, with the sticker detached, falling to the bottom of the holder.
I know I'm late to the party, but I think a lot of the hate comes from base cards being on card, and sticker being inserts often times. Topps specifically has shown us it is not an issue with getting the players to sign on the cards, they literally got over 100 signees to sign thousands of on card base cards, but yet an insert auto with only 20 copies is a sticker is completely bull. I understand like the soccer situation, I could totally see how a having them sign stickers could be a way more effective way to push out products, but as far as the big 3 American sports go, stickers in general are just cutting cost on the manufacturers part. I personally have only bought 2 sticker autos, and hundreds of on card autos, with the 2 stickers being a local kid for a buck, and my favorite player insert auto with only 26 copies, that I am not even convinced he gave permission to Topps to make the card, I bet he wouldn't have signed them if Topps asked him to😂
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I'll never buy one but I've pulled a few! The first guy talking is 💯 correct!
Scott! Sorry I'm new!
So when use a pen mark the corner or any where else it will be graded altered ? But signing a card is not considered altering the card and the card can be on gem mint 10 ?
Well done 👍 🎉
Thanks for tuning in!
Sticker autos are bad but not as big as of a stain as the now two monopolies that are no good for collectors. PSA acquiring SGC is just bad for the hobby. Fanatics next I can see acquiring either CGC or Beckett. No anti trust ,nope just look the other way. Name one monopoly that's ever done any good for the average consumer?
Remember the good old days a 1000.00 Bucks for a box of exquisite football.
The amouint of money these players make signing is IMHO just part of the job like taking batting practice etc. They bug me to no end. Spring training and other off time during the season or just have a planned day like a Doctor's appt to take care of the fans that pay the salary of the players. Exceptions are always allowed.
Good points - thanks for watching!
The fact that every older collector hates sticker Auto makes me like them more ... stickers give a modern look to modern cards
Chris here - ugh. Gross. I can’t even really consider the card autographed. The ink is on the sticker! Put the sticker on anything else and you wouldn’t consider it autographed.
But hey, to each their own! Lots of room in the hobby for every opinion.
Thanks for watching!
Personally I don't care for sticker autographs. To me, it's not personal anymore, it's all about mass production.
Chris here - couldn’t agree more!!
I pull sticker autos off of cheap cards and add them to 1/1 printing plates
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I’m asking this as I watch it so I’ve not listened to the whole thing yet, but if having the card touched by the player. Why are dna certified autos so much cheaper? I guess like with your guys emphasis on wanting the guy to touch the card you’d think you’d like the more. I’ve always wondered that. Like how a sticker would go for more than a dna cert auto card. N I’m not talking like /5 or /10 super fractors. Like just base autos I mean. I would prefer they’re all on card autos as well. I’ve just wondered that.
A topps certified on card auto from a pack will almost always outsell an in person auto - even if it’s authenticated.
There are so many autographs in topps products that in person ones just feel unnecessary.
Except for vintage!
@@SpitballinCards see like I would hold a ipa in higher regard then a sticker auto.
@@harryb8999 at least it’s on the card!!
@@SpitballinCards exactly! 👍 like it’s always baffled me as a collector. I don’t personally own any IP autos. Except a few from a couple mystery packs. I think are real? Haha 😂 but In a perfect world those ipa’s are worth more then stickers. Specially to reference this video the player touched the card!
@@harryb8999 I’d rather have an auto that I got in person than a sticker as well.
Will the adhesive on these sticker auto’s end up causing the sticker to fall off eventually? Could that be an issue 75-100 years down the road?
Excellent question! Also wonder about some of the inks they use, even on-card. Only time will tell. Thanks for commenting!
I don't like sticker autos. I think there's a place for them in lower tier products, but for the most part i agree with Jeff. It doesn't feel as special.
Where can you check to verify what sets are on-card autos vs. sticker autos?
The only time sticker autos are ok, are when the card design is specifically designed for the sticker ex. Trout bowman sterling 2009, when a sticker auto is slapped on a card and it doesn't look like it belongs, that's when the problem arises lol ❤
I mean, if there’s room built in for a sticker, surely the player could just sign in that space!
I never understood the hatred of sticker autos. So they sign the card or they sign the sticker, what's the difference? the sticker is in their possession when they sign it no?
Chris here - I just think its different. I mean, if you put that sticker on a ball or a jersey, would you consider the ball or jersey to be signed? I wouldn't.
The sticker just feels like something added onto the card, but the on card auto feels like the part of the card. At least that's how it feels to me.
Hey Chris quick question. Just bought Ozzie Albies’ 2018 Hand Up ssp. Would you prefer that or His 2018 Topps Black parallel?
Oh man! Very Sophie’s Choice. Both cards are great. The SSP seem especially short printed in 2018, and I like the Ozzie image. So I’d lean that way. But honestly, you can’t lose either way.
Congrats on the pick up!
@@SpitballinCards thanks and I know it’s a tough choice. I was really asking because I’m contemplating whether or not to chase the black. I just picked up a second White Jersey with Glove for Acuna. Bgs 9 lol wallet is hurting
@@Bravetrain13 such a great image!!
If you’re think of chasing another Albies rookie, the Black is a great choice.
I don’t mind them on lower end sets but sets like Prisim, optic, Topps Chrome and up should not be. Sets like reg Topps, prestige, heritage,
So a sticker auto is not like getting a hard case signed (a comparison someone made). A sticker becomes a part of the card (just like memorabilia imbedded in a card, or a logo embossed on a card). I think of stickers as more analogous to cut auto cards. I have the player's auto and as an auto collector (mostly) that's fine. However, I agree that on card is better than a sticker, and stickers can sometimes look 'out of place'. Finally...best in person autos....RCs of HOFers...as long as they are not old and fairly rare RCs...so, '82 Donruss Ripken in person (psa mint 9/10 auto)....cool...'54 Topps Aaron in person (even psa 4.5)...not cool. With respect to the departed late, GREAT Mr. Henry Aaron. Love his auto...but not on his RC.
Chris here - one thing I love about this hobby and that there are so many different avenues or ways to approach it. So many styles of collecting. You and I are very much different! I would love a Hank Aaron rookie with an auto on the card. LOVE IT. In fact right now, it's the only vintage card I'm looking for. The more I think about it, the more I want it.
There can be more and more 82 donruss card signed by Cal every single day....
But hey, collect what you like!! And we know we wont be bidding against each other any time soon!
I mean, who would actually say they like sticker autos??? Only someone stuck holding that bag would say that... lol
Hey Mike, thanks for watching! I didn't say I liked them or preferred them. I only said that I see why they exist and in some cases think they are okay. I also mentioned in the video that part of my opposition was just to extend the conversation with the rest of the team.
@scottiebcards2354 I agree with you... And I wasn't referring to you, I meant in general.
I will take whatever anyone doesn't want. You get one, come here, I will pay very little like everyone expects. I will take them all.
Something amazing about stickers is they allow you to have cards signed after players are dead which I mean its not ideal but if you think about it its really powerful
Sticker autos are absolutely worthless in my opinion unless…unless…let’s just say they had all the current greatest players of every sport fill out pages of stickers so when they pass away, you could still pull their autos. Instead of a cut auto. Might keep the product a little cheaper for the consumer so Topps doesn’t have to buy an expensive piece of paper to cut up and make into a card.
That would be the only reason I would enjoy a sticker auto. But if the player is alive and well, On Card Auto all the way.
This is a really interesting take! We will definitely have to discuss on the show. Thanks for sharing!
I hate sticker autos as much as I hate fake patches that come with them.👎 Topps should come up with making the sticker more eye appealing maybe give it the logo fracture look.
What exactly is Phil going for with that Hitler mustache?
The touching argument does not hold because they also tocuh the sticker. Is the material what makes the difference? If they touch a card and dont sign it is it differnet I mean theres still the touch. If they touch the card and sign a sticker on top of the card? It really logically doesnt hold
The difference is the player has actually held that card, seen that card, and acknowledged that card... The card actually has history with that player... And oncard looks 💯 percent nicer. I don't know anyone in the hobby that would rather have a sticker auto rather than an oncard auto on their card.... Do you?
@@mikenunya3655 rather no way. But the player also held the sticker saw the sticker and acknowledged the sticker did you even read the comment I’m saying I get you like on card but the argument is logically flawed you need a new one.
@mauriciobori I collect cards not stickers... When the player sees himself on the card and the beauty of the card I'm sure he appreciates the card more than that blank sticker... lol... And so do I. 👍 I'm guessing your stuck with a bunch of sticker autos... lol
@@mikenunya3655 now you’re changing the argument so it’s not the touching is the players connection worth the card what if the players hated the card does that make you want the card less? Again it’s not an argument in glad you enjoy on card autos I do as well you just don’t know how to build an argument
Pass on sticker autos. I guess im just old school
Agree. Thanks for watching!
Because you have made yourself to believe and made purchase of a sticker auto, you should not try to justify like that scott.
Scott here, thanks for watching! I am not trying to justify anything. I think the card is very important regardless of sticker autos. That is my stance on the topic which is why I bought that card. If I had not bought the card, I would have said the same. Do I love sticker autos? No, but I do think there are times that I would own one.
Not a fan of ALTERING or WAXING cards 😬 But I probably own one 😒
Hi gentlemen. A question. I bought a bowman chrome green refractor. Wont mention the player. Price for #cda /99 green was at bin for less than #cda /250 etc. Again forgetting the player is #cda the "right" card. Is that the base card refractor. If i get a response i'll mention the player.
4 hours after the sale guy told me he lost the card and refunded the sale.
@stuartsegan2783 That is infuriating! 😠
@5:38 "Spending more than $5000 on a card..."
Freaking insane, I'm out of here.
Understandable
Yes they are. They don’t count
we gotta get away from the cave man different bad mentality. be curious about how others collect. compare and contrast because its interesting. find joy in your individual interests and support others with theirs. we can be different, its ok.
Stickers not as good as hard signed. Parallels need to be simplified and not overproduced like the current trend and panini “burn the cardboard down” office space”. Gold is /50. Red /5. Black is necessary and so is a refractor. BGS slabs are out of touch and out dated from an aesthetic and a company customer service perspective. PSA owning SGc who cares. Same old same old and it’s really PSA is modern and ultra and sgc is for vintage. TAG is the only choice for grading IMO 🎉🎉🎉
Sticker autographs are worthless.
Sticker autos are a joke- just like relics not game used.
Agreed on the relics! 🤬
Sticker autos are wack
Sticker autos sucks
Agreed!
Sticker autos suck!
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Can't argue with this succinct take! Thanks for commenting!