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I know this video is older, but I am just now watching; and I have to say how awesome your suitcase is. It's cute, it's unique, and it has obviously been USED for some good traveling! Thanks for the tips.
This video is so great Nadine! I'm making my way to Colorado at the end of this month for skiing & other adventures and now I feel way more prepared! Thank you!!!!
Hey thanks I am travelling to Northern Pakistan and didn't know they had snow there until yesterday, now I have to repack. Your video is really helpful.
Thank you. It’ll be my first time to travel to New Zealand from the Philippines. It’s spring there now but anything below 24 degrees celcius is winter to me already
Always happy to watch and hear of your experiences. : - ) so many years now, time fly's when you really live in what time we are grateful to have.. not just in how to travel, but how you travel and what you may experience. Your audience can see the world through your eyes. time well spent.. thanx
Hi Nadine, i was wondering if you would like to pick Bulgaria as your next travel destination, my family lives there and i have personally been there. Exploring the culture of Bulgaria, going on a hike in the mountains during the spring is just amazing, especially during the winter you can go skiing. I hope you visit Bulgaria one day
If i go to a cold place, im gonna need to go shopping. I have 2 thin sweaters, 2 skinny jeans and a cardigan... rest are tshirts and shorts... But I so wanna go to a wintery place. I've literally never seen snow
I love this! I studied abroad in England and left for Europe in August and THEN backpacked through the Scotland, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, and Iceland in December through January. I was completely unprepared!! The only useful things I brought were Doc Martins, a down Eddie Bauer jacket, and a rain coat. Thick socks were everything! And thank God dad sent good thermals! Accessories like gloves and scarves are also so easy to pick up there and on the move.
I've been watching your videos because I'll be backpacking in Europe this month. You've been so helpful! I live in California and have no idea what harsh winter weather feels like so it's been difficult figuring out what to pack!
Have u tried Uniqlo's heattech line?! I love it. I wear it to the snow and when i went to ireland last november and its leggings and baselayers kept me so comfortable
Good video and compression bags are my number one thing I pack in ... saves so much space. Cold places are just as fun to go to, if you pack right. Thanks Nadine!
I'm going to Germany for three months (working travel) and I'm quite glad that you got this video out today :) there's extra waterproof parkas that can be folded into a thick sausage bag (I know, weird comparaison) that I have found in Japan and it's super pratical to just put it into your case, doesn't take a lot of place and you can layer up on a sweater. Oh and always take your parkas larger than your actual size, important to be able to layer up underneath and not look like a squeezed balloon. (and feel more comfy in it)
@@charlottemarkaj9466 lol skip a few 4th grade science lessons? Not only is snow a super good reflector of sunlight, but you're supposed to wear sunscreen any time the sun is up.
Hey Nadine, I'm glad you talked about practical footwear, but I just want to mention that it's a good idea to look for boots that look like they have good traction on the bottom so you don't slip as easily in snowy areas.
I did a little tour of Western Europe in December and January a few years back, in the break between semesters while I was studying abroad in Spain. It was soooo great. Got to see Christmas markets in Barcelona and a few different German cities--stayed with family friends in Germany, too, and got to see how they celebrate Christmas--and hopped over to the UK for the transition between years. Went to Hogmanay in Edinburgh and got to see my favorite band ever perform live for the first time. During the Christmas time, it was a little hectic and crazy, but soon after things were very chill and relaxed, short lines and very little wait. The suckiest part was definitely wheeled luggage in Paris's slushy snow! I would advise also (depending on your destination) leaving off bringing so many hats/scarves. Bring one each that you love and you can buy a couple at your destination to keep you warmer and also will remind you of your winter adventures! I was studying in Sevilla, which is generally much warmer and so I hadn't packed many winter things. When I got to my first stop in Barcelona, I bought a beautifully intricately knitted burgundy scarf that now reminds me of Barcelona every time I wear it!
Oh my goodness, Nadine, this came at the perfect time! I am going to be leaving for short trip to Alaska in a few weeks. We will be snowmobiling, hiking, etc. and this was the perfect list, especially since I'm only bring a carryon.
this video was really useful, thank you! I'm camping in Iceland for nearly two weeks this summer and struggling a little with what I need, especially as I'm a bad over packer and have to fit all my winter gear (incl tent and a chair) in a kit bag for the trip!
Your winter travel packing guide is really detailed and well done! : ) As a person with the travel bug i kind of know what to do and bring with me, just because after years of long term travels you have to i guess ^^ But often the packing guide that i find on internet are not complete but you talk about small details which are really useful i think - So simply that's a good video! : )
I don't think it's so much her voice as the way she talks to a camera. When I was in journalism school, we literally had to take a class to learn how to talk on air haha. You have to take lots of care to speak clearly and enunciate and put emphasis on certain words. Seems like Nadine does that in her videos a lot.
We are headed to ireland soon, so this was so helpful thanks Nadine! Next trip is to Germany...can you do a video on traveling to places where you don't know the language? I try to learn a few useful phrases but any other tips would be great!
Wool keeps you warm even when it is damp. Extra socks are good for swapping to keep boots and feet drier too. I have slept outside in -40F/-40C wind chill. No insects!
Hi Nadine! I love your videos, they are super helpful for my trips and now I'm taking friends w me and it's so easy to just send them to your channel lol would it be possible if you listed different items and where you got them? Like boots or jackets for example, some of the items are things I've never purchased before so knowing where to look would be extra helpful. Thanks!
Can you please please do a video on the smaller details when traveling? Like how you figure out if there is public transportation between the places you want to go. That's probably my biggest concern. That an when are you supposed to pay for certain things on longer trip like bus tickets, hostels, day trips, etc. THANK YOU
I've just spent 2 weeks in and around New York City and compared to the New Zealand summer I left, it has been freezing. My thermals have been a life saver though and my warm, waterproof snowboard jacket has been essential. However, I did not own nor did I buy any waterproof or insulated boots so my trainers that I wore everyday, although we're comfortable for the miles of walking we did, when they got wet from the rain it was hellish. Would definitely invest in some boots near identical to yours because they were the most common type I saw people wearing and I was always jealous of their warm and cozy toes when I saw them. If it wasn't wet though, double layering my socks was just fine. It's been an eye opening trip, in terms of travelling without parents for the first time, new cultures and learning what I can cope with and how my partner and I can support each other in difficult and new situations. This video was spot on! ❄❄❄❄
tug of war between heavy duty jacket or layering puffy + water proof shell jacket. it would be my first time in europe in feb france italy. scared of going up north havent experience snow yet. this video makes me lean on the option 2 layering. thanks for the tip
Nadine, lemme say I'm a big fan of ur content. It's all great ✌️👍 especially ur camera skills, I appreciate ur skills in getting the good shots, smooth looking stable video, and great editing ✌️👍 Also if you ever need to get somewhere off the beaten path come visit Yukon, it's Canada's best kept secret.
I live in Florida so there is like 0 winter clothes here. Makes it hard to do winter travels. Thats what is stopping me. I would shop online but im a lot smaller than your average guy so its a must for me to try on before i buy.
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Hi Nadine, I'm travel outfitter, I have to say thank you so much, for helping my business. Bad advice like yours without details, really shows what professionals like me know differently. I'd really recommend coming into a retailer like REI or EMS. To learn more please. Take care.
I love those brown boots, anyone have any ideas what brand they are? Also if anyone has suggestions on warm, waterproof gloves that aren't so big and bulky you can't do anything in them (like drive your car, lol) I would really appreciate it!
We are thinking of planning a winter trip at some point. We have only travelled to hot countries and would love to visit somewhere where it snows more than an inch! I saw on Kristen Sarah's video that she visited Greenland and Finland which looked awesome for snow, but Nadine do you have any recommendations for winter destinations? Or anybody reading this for that fact? Amy & Yas
Sarah Delights We've recently been to Japan but wrong places, wrong season I'm afraid. We definitely want to go back there though as we loved it! Thanks for the suggestions
Germany and Austria! You could maybe even do a day trip into northern Italy if it interested you. My family did this once in the summer when I was young, but I got to revisit a bit of Germany in the winter and it was so beautiful! Had my very first white Christmas there :)
Awesome. European countries are great ideas because we are from the UK so we can go for the weekend. I would absolutely love a white Christmas, very jealous! Yas
This was so helpful! Thanks Nadine! I'm such an over packer haha! Nadine do you know of any gloves that are really warm but you can use your phone? Like they are touch capable?
I'm here still waiting for you to visit Ireland. wold love to give you some suggestions😆🇮🇪🇮🇪. also, could you make a video of where you would like to go to in 2017
Nicole P it depends on where you are going. Is it cork, galway, Dublin? well, no matter where you are at this time of the year,Sandles are a no, but don't bring your skiing boots either😅.Bring your shoes you would wear on a daily basis. Pack long sleeves. Your winter coat is maybe a little to heavy for March, but if u have anything lighter bring it.
For all my best packing tips check out: th-cam.com/play/PLBmF7uPtI-4G0GNzB3ATC-9wrA5bOpNSS.html
For more expert advice with planning your travels, check out my how-to-travel e-book: bit.ly/httravel-ebook
I know this video is older, but I am just now watching; and I have to say how awesome your suitcase is. It's cute, it's unique, and it has obviously been USED for some good traveling! Thanks for the tips.
This video is so great Nadine! I'm making my way to Colorado at the end of this month for skiing & other adventures and now I feel way more prepared! Thank you!!!!
Hey thanks I am travelling to Northern Pakistan and didn't know they had snow there until yesterday, now I have to repack. Your video is really helpful.
I love hearing the logic behind what you pack. You have a lot of experience, it's really informative to hear your insights. Well made videos!
Thank you. It’ll be my first time to travel to New Zealand from the Philippines. It’s spring there now but anything below 24 degrees celcius is winter to me already
Always happy to watch and hear of your experiences. : - ) so many years now, time fly's when you really live in what time we are grateful to have.. not just in how to travel, but how you travel and what you may experience. Your audience can see the world through your eyes. time well spent.. thanx
As an immensely disorganised person, this helps me lots. thanks ♥
you are welcome!
Hi Nadine, i was wondering if you would like to pick Bulgaria as your next travel destination, my family lives there and i have personally been there. Exploring the culture of Bulgaria, going on a hike in the mountains during the spring is just amazing, especially during the winter you can go skiing. I hope you visit Bulgaria one day
If i go to a cold place, im gonna need to go shopping. I have 2 thin sweaters, 2 skinny jeans and a cardigan... rest are tshirts and shorts... But I so wanna go to a wintery place. I've literally never seen snow
Cheshire Alice I feel you. I've seen it twice in my life. Australia doesn't look kindly on snow
I've also never seen snow
Snow is overrated
Cheshire Alice , layering is your friend in such cases.
I wish I could relate........
I love this! I studied abroad in England and left for Europe in August and THEN backpacked through the Scotland, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, and Iceland in December through January. I was completely unprepared!! The only useful things I brought were Doc Martins, a down Eddie Bauer jacket, and a rain coat. Thick socks were everything! And thank God dad sent good thermals! Accessories like gloves and scarves are also so easy to pick up there and on the move.
Nadine!! Could you do a video on packing for a long trip, like 3-6 months. I'm studying abroad and I would love some advice!
I've been watching your videos because I'll be backpacking in Europe this month. You've been so helpful! I live in California and have no idea what harsh winter weather feels like so it's been difficult figuring out what to pack!
Have u tried Uniqlo's heattech line?! I love it. I wear it to the snow and when i went to ireland last november and its leggings and baselayers kept me so comfortable
I traveled to Yellowknife NWT in March a couple years ago. Definitely needed lots of layers up there! It was a great trip in such an amazing place.
Good video and compression bags are my number one thing I pack in ... saves so much space. Cold places are just as fun to go to, if you pack right. Thanks Nadine!
I am going to Iceland in easter , so this was so helpful. Thank you Nadine! ❤
I was in Sweden in October last year and my thermals were a life saver!
Which thermal u r used?
I'm going to Germany for three months (working travel) and I'm quite glad that you got this video out today :) there's extra waterproof parkas that can be folded into a thick sausage bag (I know, weird comparaison) that I have found in Japan and it's super pratical to just put it into your case, doesn't take a lot of place and you can layer up on a sweater.
Oh and always take your parkas larger than your actual size, important to be able to layer up underneath and not look like a squeezed balloon. (and feel more comfy in it)
We've just returned from a wintery trip to New York, and this was definitely us whilst packing! Haha
This is what I needed seeing as I'm going to Europe on Wednesday!
Just came back from Iceland! It was REALLY cold by the Gulfoss man I never experienced that level of cold before
I love all your packing videos!!!! There always so informative and detailed!!! Happy Safe travels and stay warm!!!
lol i'm literally leaving today to go to london! going back into my bag to use some of your tips! thanks!!
its not too cold in London yet :)
Hey Nadine, you forgot the Sunscreen! The sun can be a killer when the snows layed!
Mike Hannan ummm it’s not summer.
+Charlotte Markaj snow reflects sunlight and your face easily gets burned, even when it's cold :)
@@charlottemarkaj9466 lol skip a few 4th grade science lessons? Not only is snow a super good reflector of sunlight, but you're supposed to wear sunscreen any time the sun is up.
Hey Nadine, I'm glad you talked about practical footwear, but I just want to mention that it's a good idea to look for boots that look like they have good traction on the bottom so you don't slip as easily in snowy areas.
I personally have sorel boots and hunter boots which are pricey but worth looking around for at discounted prices!
@@nataliecampos1087 is TImberland good enough for snow and some icy road?
These were some great tips! Especially the tip about the bulky jackets. Thanks! :)
I did a little tour of Western Europe in December and January a few years back, in the break between semesters while I was studying abroad in Spain. It was soooo great. Got to see Christmas markets in Barcelona and a few different German cities--stayed with family friends in Germany, too, and got to see how they celebrate Christmas--and hopped over to the UK for the transition between years. Went to Hogmanay in Edinburgh and got to see my favorite band ever perform live for the first time. During the Christmas time, it was a little hectic and crazy, but soon after things were very chill and relaxed, short lines and very little wait. The suckiest part was definitely wheeled luggage in Paris's slushy snow!
I would advise also (depending on your destination) leaving off bringing so many hats/scarves. Bring one each that you love and you can buy a couple at your destination to keep you warmer and also will remind you of your winter adventures! I was studying in Sevilla, which is generally much warmer and so I hadn't packed many winter things. When I got to my first stop in Barcelona, I bought a beautifully intricately knitted burgundy scarf that now reminds me of Barcelona every time I wear it!
Oh my goodness, Nadine, this came at the perfect time! I am going to be leaving for short trip to Alaska in a few weeks. We will be snowmobiling, hiking, etc. and this was the perfect list, especially since I'm only bring a carryon.
this video was really useful, thank you! I'm camping in Iceland for nearly two weeks this summer and struggling a little with what I need, especially as I'm a bad over packer and have to fit all my winter gear (incl tent and a chair) in a kit bag for the trip!
I loved watching this thanks, I am from india going to Himachal Pradesh north India side..
Your winter travel packing guide is really detailed and well done! : ) As a person with the travel bug i kind of know what to do and bring with me, just because after years of long term travels you have to i guess ^^
But often the packing guide that i find on internet are not complete but you talk about small details which are really useful i think - So simply that's a good video! : )
What are the boots you have?
They look like Timberlands
They are gorgeous i would love to know what brand/style of boots they are too?
Confirmed, they are Timberlands :)
www.timberland.co.uk/shop/en/tbl-uk/authentics-fleece-boot-for-women-in-taupe-8330r236#hero=0@@emmavitale4389
- For me, Pack:
1) Flipflops
2) Plane ticket to somewhere warm
That's it! Get the heck out of the snow! haha
Happy New Year Nadine … great video.
This is so cool- I love these travel packing videos
Am i the only one who thinks she has like a News woman type of voice?
I don't think it's so much her voice as the way she talks to a camera. When I was in journalism school, we literally had to take a class to learn how to talk on air haha. You have to take lots of care to speak clearly and enunciate and put emphasis on certain words. Seems like Nadine does that in her videos a lot.
We are headed to ireland soon, so this was so helpful thanks Nadine! Next trip is to Germany...can you do a video on traveling to places where you don't know the language? I try to learn a few useful phrases but any other tips would be great!
Where's your grey sweater from ?!
Michelle Klick Roots, but you can find one similar from Burton also!
What brand are the red "going out" boots? Love them!
Thank you 😊 so much Nadine I requested you delivered..... you are the best.. I am sharing you with the world 🌎Great tips
haha great timing im flying to portugal tomorrow its winter but its like 10-15 degrees which isnt that bad actually
I really need this cuz I’m going to Colorado in like 1 week and I’m going to be there for 1 week
Wool keeps you warm even when it is damp.
Extra socks are good for swapping to keep boots and feet drier too.
I have slept outside in -40F/-40C wind chill. No insects!
Hi Nadine! I love your videos, they are super helpful for my trips and now I'm taking friends w me and it's so easy to just send them to your channel lol would it be possible if you listed different items and where you got them? Like boots or jackets for example, some of the items are things I've never purchased before so knowing where to look would be extra helpful. Thanks!
This was so helpful. I also found out we use a lot of the same items. Ilysm ❤️
Can you please please do a video on the smaller details when traveling? Like how you figure out if there is public transportation between the places you want to go. That's probably my biggest concern. That an when are you supposed to pay for certain things on longer trip like bus tickets, hostels, day trips, etc. THANK YOU
What brand and your style is your Parka!?
it's from community and patagonia
Lol patagonia? How fitting considering your recent adventures XD
Nadine, I love your red beanie, the pattern is so pretty! Where did you get it?
Great tips! I'll be traveling to Syberia next week so this video is very helpful 😁
I like the two layer jacket system.
Do you know where I can get that black jacket you have??? Looks amazing.
Just the kind of video I needed now...and of course it came from you :)
:P
Thank you so much 🌺🌺🌺
I'm travelling to Austria for a ski trip with contiki.. Any packing tips ??
So am I maybe we will see each other
I'm loving that sweatshirt!!
just got home from Montreal! Wish I had seen this beforehand haha
You should do a travel tips for long flights
I've just spent 2 weeks in and around New York City and compared to the New Zealand summer I left, it has been freezing. My thermals have been a life saver though and my warm, waterproof snowboard jacket has been essential. However, I did not own nor did I buy any waterproof or insulated boots so my trainers that I wore everyday, although we're comfortable for the miles of walking we did, when they got wet from the rain it was hellish. Would definitely invest in some boots near identical to yours because they were the most common type I saw people wearing and I was always jealous of their warm and cozy toes when I saw them. If it wasn't wet though, double layering my socks was just fine. It's been an eye opening trip, in terms of travelling without parents for the first time, new cultures and learning what I can cope with and how my partner and I can support each other in difficult and new situations. This video was spot on! ❄❄❄❄
that's too true! I was out yesterday in the cold and wet wearing trainers... i just wanted to be in front of a fire warming my feet back up!
tug of war between heavy duty jacket or layering puffy + water proof shell jacket. it would be my first time in europe in feb france italy. scared of going up north havent experience snow yet. this video makes me lean on the option 2 layering. thanks for the tip
Nadine, I was wondering what brand and style those heavy causal boots are from. Thanks!
Can you link the luggage in the description box? Thank you ❤️
Finally! A girl making a video for men AND women.
Love your TH-cam channel so much ❤️❤️
greetings from northern Canada! where did you get your black parka from? It is really cute, I love your style :) and great advice
Love this guide and your titles ⚡️❄️⚡️❄️❄️
What size is the luggage you use?
Thanks I am shifting to shimla and this will help me 🤗😘😘
is the osprey backpack featured in this video TSA compliant with carry on luggage measurements?
Great tips! Thank you Nadine! Hugs! ❤
Which one is better for tent camping duffel bags or camping backpacks? First time with Girl Scouts💓😁
Poteo Queen Carly , a luggage piece that is both a backpack AND a duffle bag. I recommend seriously looking into a good quality piece.
Thats so helpful!! Thanks a lot and regards from Patagonia :) Vielen, vielen Dank!!!
can you please tell the names/brands of the two jackets?
What brand is the down jacket ? Thanks
I think you shoud go to gran canaria. i recomend Anfi del mar in los Careidos
Nadine, lemme say I'm a big fan of ur content. It's all great ✌️👍 especially ur camera skills, I appreciate ur skills in getting the good shots, smooth looking stable video, and great editing ✌️👍
Also if you ever need to get somewhere off the beaten path come visit Yukon, it's Canada's best kept secret.
Is there much to see if your health isn't good enough to hike or canoe?
Philip Oberg I
Hi, can I know where you bought your thermals?
I live in Florida so there is like 0 winter clothes here. Makes it hard to do winter travels. Thats what is stopping me. I would shop online but im a lot smaller than your average guy so its a must for me to try on before i buy.
Papii Chuloo , some online stores have size guides.
Loved this! Where is your shirt from?
Love the content:] where are your sunglasses from???
Hey boo, how can you travel this much? isnt it really expensive? or do you have a job that lets you travel like this:)
I am traveling soon to NY this helped me :), does compression socks really help? or do they have to be thermal socks?
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Hi Nadine, I'm travel outfitter, I have to say thank you so much, for helping my business. Bad advice like yours without details, really shows what professionals like me know differently. I'd really recommend coming into a retailer like REI or EMS. To learn more please. Take care.
Thanks a lot for the video.
What is the weather app you are using?
very helpful video.thanks!
Philippines isn't that cold only in the mornings. And it doesn't snow there so yeah
I love those brown boots, anyone have any ideas what brand they are? Also if anyone has suggestions on warm, waterproof gloves that aren't so big and bulky you can't do anything in them (like drive your car, lol) I would really appreciate it!
I'm going to Budapest and I can't seem to find a lot of winter packing vids
hi i live in Scotland and winter is not dry at all here it is really damp
thats the same in all of the UK at the moment :(
How to carry that coat when walking around in shopping mall? Too bulky to carry at hand
Love the darker hair.
haha yea it's getting pretty dark!
We are thinking of planning a winter trip at some point. We have only travelled to hot countries and would love to visit somewhere where it snows more than an inch! I saw on Kristen Sarah's video that she visited Greenland and Finland which looked awesome for snow, but Nadine do you have any recommendations for winter destinations? Or anybody reading this for that fact? Amy & Yas
Sarah Delights We've recently been to Japan but wrong places, wrong season I'm afraid. We definitely want to go back there though as we loved it! Thanks for the suggestions
Germany and Austria! You could maybe even do a day trip into northern Italy if it interested you. My family did this once in the summer when I was young, but I got to revisit a bit of Germany in the winter and it was so beautiful! Had my very first white Christmas there :)
Awesome. European countries are great ideas because we are from the UK so we can go for the weekend. I would absolutely love a white Christmas, very jealous! Yas
Iceland 😍
Go hike mt Snowdonia ;)
where is that parka from?
Yay, advice video.. 👍☺️
WHERE WAS THIS WHEN I WENT TO NYC LAST WEEK 😢😢
This was so helpful! Thanks Nadine! I'm such an over packer haha! Nadine do you know of any gloves that are really warm but you can use your phone? Like they are touch capable?
not any particule brand, but there are lots of different types of gloves that now work with cell phones :)
I'm here still waiting for you to visit Ireland. wold love to give you some suggestions😆🇮🇪🇮🇪. also, could you make a video of where you would like to go to in 2017
Im coming to Ireland from Canada in March. Any packing tips? Is my winter coat too much?
Nicole P it depends on where you are going. Is it cork, galway, Dublin? well, no matter where you are at this time of the year,Sandles are a no, but don't bring your skiing boots either😅.Bring your shoes you would wear on a daily basis. Pack long sleeves. Your winter coat is maybe a little to heavy for March, but if u have anything lighter bring it.
I will be all over! Thanks :D
Where are the boots from?
Which brand thermals are better n budget?
where do you get your packing cubes from? Are they good quality?
got mine at MEC or REI, but you cna find them only as well :)
What were your lotions? I was wondering because I am looking for a good lotion for the wintertime and you did not say where they were from. :) thanks!
looks like lush
+Felicity Plesman lush :)
LMFAO WHEN U SAID U WERE CHECKING FOR COLD N WET WEATHER I ASSUMED YOU MEANT LIKE THE NORTH OF CANADA OR THE ALPS NOT LONDON ENGLAND HAHAHA
That's cold and snowy.
No its really not