INFINITY GAUNTLET - The Burden of Godhood
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- On Jim Starlin's 1991 Marvel event series, "The Infinity Gauntlet," the inspiration for Avengers: Infinity War and a tale of how the power of godhood in the hands of Thanos causes a power-mad villain to question everything he thought he knew about himself.
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"Vampires" by The Midnight
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"I am a god" - Thanos/Kanye West
Imagine Kanye with the Infinity Gems? NO waiting for croissants.
Owen confirmed wavy
Matt Draper LOL!!!
This one was my first-ever big crossover story, sort of my Crisis On Infinite Earths. It always struck me that Thanos was always the true protagonist of the story while Adam Warlock was the antagonist. Even more uncomfortably, both characters were the flip side of how good and evil in comics are usually portrayed. Thanos bludgeons his opponents with raw power while struggling with his inadequacies while Warlock (whose name originally meant "oath-breaker") casually manipulates and checkmates his allies and opponents alike in the name of a greater good.
Infinity War, I truly hope, will have that same sort of insight into Thanos.
This is fantastic analysis! I completely agree with your interpretation of their roles in the narrative. I’m hoping that Thanos is a complex character in the film, but I haven’t seen any of that in the trailers, so I’m not sure what they will do with him. But it will easily make the film better if he’s a layered character like in this comic.
I think Infinity War turned out pretty satisfying
@@pradipsinhrana7319 Brother, I KNOW it did!
Jim Starlin was one of the writers at marvel who could go the most buck wild with the crazy cosmic shit but have it totally work thematically, at least most of the time.
Small correction: the green woman is gamora, not nebula. Other than That, this was a great Video Matt.
You’re right, I flubbed the name and didn’t catch it in editing (it’s easy to stop listening to what you’re actually saying during the edit process haha) I appreciate the polite correction!
Matt Draper Happy to help.
Damn this video has given me a new perspective on The Infinity Gauntlet comic
Adam Warlock=Space Jesus
To become a God is the loneliest achievement of them all.
I loved Thanos Quest, Infinity Gauntlet not as much 'till the end, it kind of felt like the heroes where just gadget addition to the story to remind us that this take place in the Marvel Universe, most instrumental figures to the plot being relatively obscure characters becoming popular through the event at hand.
I've seen Thanos come back in the comics here and there I didn't have the occasion to pick up the more recent stories and I don't know why or how he leaves his farming retreat but it didn't felt really right tu bring him back as his usual death loving power hungry villain after the closure he got at the end of Infinity Gauntlet.
Yeah, unfortunately he’s pulled right back into the conflict in Infinity War a little while after this. Starlin keeps him a complex character, but I like his closure here.
Well maybe I should check out infinity war some time!
So true. Sometimes I just want some closure in my stories!
Starlin is releasing his final Thanos project for Marvel sometime this year, it will be the last of a 3 graphic novel set he has been releasing since last Spring: Infinity Siblings, Infinity Conflict and the rumored last title of Infinity Ending.
13:30 On a side-note that's Gamora not Nebula.
This story is FAR BETTER than the one we got in Endgame.
Infinity Gauntlet has the benefit of being a self contained story allowed to freely explore its own chosen themes that nothing else was building towards nor building out of, whereas Infinity War and Endgame needed to be the culmination of past stories and a conclusion to a long running storyline while trying to tie into the story it's adapting albeit loosely. It needed to satisfy the arcs of a handful of protagonists at once whereas the book quite literally uses ALL those characters as simple chess pieces while focusing exclusively on Thanos.
Those movies were doomed to be a bit of a mess in terms of focused storytelling but for what they were intended to be I feel like they did a damn good job.
@@hiimchrisj well said
@@hiimchrisj Agreed.
Thanos, The Mad Simper
@@hiimchrisj infinity war did it way better than endgame tho.
The movies missed the point with the Snap. The point wasn't that he was able to wipe out half of all life, the point was that all it took was a snap of his fingers. In the movies they make it look like a struggle to do it which goes against the whole point.
The movies tell a different narrative. They are standalone even though the movies match the comics in many ways.
I don't even know why they snap
@@cardboard_hat In the comics it's quite simple. Thanos pines for the physical incarnation of death in the universe. And is willing to do anything if it would mean gaining her affection. In the movies it's driven by a more impassioned battle to prevent other worlds and pretty much the entire universe from suffering the same fate Titan had. Which was simply a case of extreme overpopulation, and the Mad Titan having been shaped by his trauma from losing his entire world felt the only way to prevent such a tragedy from happening on a universal scale was to simply cull half of life as a whole to stop the overconsumption.
Now eternals kind of takes a bigger jab with that, because the movie explores how there is a Celestial fetus embedded in the Earth, and that if it were not for intervention from Thanos, the fetus would have completed its gestation cycle and then emerge from Earth as a newly-formed Cosmic entity and the emergence would effectively tear the planet asunder killing everything on it. And there's a lot of speculation saying that he knew about this threat once he had the stones and basically tried to hit the snooze button on the celestial emerging. At any cost.
That was their way of trying to help explain why simply doubling resources in the universe wouldn't help because that would only speed up the clock and likely result in galactic overconsumption of resources that much faster
@@newfoundwisdom8532 but the thing is that with the IG he's literally nigh omnipotent, he can do virtually anything with it
So instead of killing half the population he could've increased the resources and explained to everyone in the universe the present and the future the conciquences of over consumption
Or he could've made it so that over consumption never happens no matter what as he's nigh omnipotent, he can do that
@@newfoundwisdom8532 If the movie Thanos was as knowledgeable as the comic version but still had the personality of the movie one, he would've done what I said
I loved this comic along with the Thanos Quest and Adam Warlock comics written by Jim Starlin. Alot of people think that Thanos merely did this just to appease death, but his character in regards to his utter nihilism is more in search of purpose and certainty in regards to his conclusions about the void. Its interesting how both Thanos and Adam Warlock are characters locked in existential crisis. Thanos in my observations is obsessed with idealized versions of concepts like death, love, etc but realizes through his obtaining omniscience and omnipresence that power doesn't create meaning and he isn't as strong as he thinks he is. Its interesting at the end of Infinity War comic when Thanos saves Adam from his Magus personality, Death arrives and comments if he kills Adam Warlock she will give him the love he so desires, in which Thanos weighs his respectful friendship/ rivalry with Adam Warlock and refuses. It was nice when Starlin tried to expand on the character from someone who was obsessed with power to a character trying to find his meaning. Keith Giffen and Ron Marz tried to do this by exploring Thano's journey for knowledge and redemption. Thanks for the video. Great stuff.
I have watched a few of these in a row now, I think of all the channels that recap comicbook stories this is my favorite. You do a great job of presenting the story, and even make me want to re-read the stories I love, and check out the ones I have never read. Good job.
nice job dude - makes me wanna go back and reread the comics -- is the complete saga wrapped into one trade?
Yep, it’s all collected in the Infinity Gauntlet graphic novel. There are some other collections that have solo comics affected by the story, but the main graphic novel is the only one you absolutely need.
Yeah read the thanos quest first which is just a quick 2-3 issue story about thanos obtaining the gems
I never understood why the MCU didn't adapt the comics closer. The comics focused so much on Thanos himself as a character, showing the burden it took to even have that power, I liked Infinity War, but it felt like they had gone out of their way to change every little detail, including the color of the gems themselves.
Every adaptation changes a lot from its source material. They are telling there own narrative and building there own universe. The movies are very similar to the comics but they are standalone because movies are different medium. It's adaptation its the nature of it.
I love learning thr difference between the movies and comics since I don't read comics and saw the movies first not knowing anything about the comics.
Holy cow your videos keep getting better and better. The scripting, the editing, the way you narrate. The quality keeps improving with every video (I mean seriously the sheer difference in quality of this one to your Rear Window video is staggering). This one's honestly your best video yet!
Thanks! Lots of time and practice make all the difference.
When faced with living as the almighty Thanos had this to say to Adam. Endure or surrender. Puny words of comfort. As you knew they would be. All power and Adam is a slave with no choice but to decide what he always does. Go where he always does and live through the events he always does. Wise words.
I think you just made me fall in love with comics all over again.
We’re in the Endgame now
When your Yandere goes too far
she never really liked him though!
Excellent story this is peak marvel cosmic and peak starlin. You should cover more marvel cosmic stories
"Matt Draper is One of the best video essayists ever!"
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Real question tho:
When Thanos snaps his fingers to trigger the glove, the art shows his middle(snapping) finger askew from his palm.
Who tf snaps their fingers and the snapping finger doesn't insert itself into your palm?
i tried tk do it like that and it looks cool.
like just bounce your finger up after
I think this video reserves way more views than it has
Coming back to this video after seeing Infinity War and my goodness it was something else.
Oh my god literally...
Hahaha
YESSSSS BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!
Hope you enjoy it!
Matt Draper You never fail to deliver, Matt!
Awesome video as ever Matt :) I read this story in trade form a few years ago and enjoyed it immensely keep up the stellar work as always!.
As always, thank you very much for your kind words and support!
Damn you did it again great video
Now I regret passing this great event up back in 1991...
It’s way better than the typical event! I highly recommend it.
Matt Draper I'm definitely thinking about getting the trade paperback.
Matt this is one of the best damn videos you done yet. The editing is top notch, I love a lot of the little things you did like the moving stars in the background of the Thanos close-up!
This video's also super interesting because of the next big MCU movie coming out- I can't help but wonder if they'll manage to pull in the same nuance that Thanos seems to have in the comics.
Thank you! We’ll find out soon about Infinity War. I’m hyped, but trying to keep my expectations in check.
Just when I thought I couldn't be more hyped for Infinity War!
Me too!
I love the videos. Really talented, and the editing is on point
Thank you!
The editing in this is superb, I'm subscribing because of this video. I think you explained the story very well and would love to see more analysis on other popular stories.
Thanks! Check out my back catalog and more comic videos will be coming soon.
Loved that praise for Perez. Can you please take a look at The Judas Contract?
Amazing video Matt!
Thank you very much!
Great video. This is my first time commenting on one of your videos, but I’ve been following your channel for a while now. Thanks for all the insight on these comics and for giving me motivation to read Moon Knight, IDW TMNT and more Alan Moore Swamp Thing
Thank you! That’s really great to hear and it makes doing these videos worthwhile.
Great video as always Matt. Also (without any spoilers) Infinity War is by far one of Marvel's best films!
I have read this comic and I love it
This comic event sounds infinitely better than Infinity War was.
If only endgame properly adapted this
I'm so glad this came out pre infinity war I'm so sick of snapping, softening of Thanos, and them referred to as stones. How in the world does marvel get it wrong themselves.
"The Infinity Stones" sounds way better, more threatening and more badass then "The Infinity Gems"
@@solen5529 exactly it's too manufactured.
@@aurahoneydew9607 wdym?
Aside from having casually watched the odd video here and there, I've only recently realized how interesting much of your content is,and have subsequently subscribed...(those two words are more cumbersome side by side than one might realize before actually seeing them that way)
I want to ask you something, but I'd like to clarify that there aren't such critical undertones as may be expected in a comments section on TH-cam. I'm asking out genuine, innocent curiosity.
What's up with your choice of decidedly '80s saxophone music at the end of your videos? I feel like there's an interesting story behind that.
I'm now caught up on all of your videos!!
Deep stuff
would have been real cool to get this movie
I wish they touch on the in Infinity War
It would be so cool to see the antagonist go through such a mental crisis instead of just a physical defeat.
Kenneth Satria Given that the Russos are directing this and how they've depicted their villains, I'm fairly sure that's the idea.
I’m hoping for a film that has complex characters and ideas and not just massive battles. We’ll see!
@@MattDraper I say Infinity War and Endgame are gonna deliver on that. Personally I prefer movie Thanos over comic book Thanos since all he wants to do in the comics is impress death
Brother, this is just fantastic stuff.
I'm really hoping you do a philosophy segment on Dr. Manhattan's psyche since Geoff Johns' "Doomsday Clock" maxiseries is (in my opinion) our generation's "Watchmen." So far the comic is a modern art masterpiece. Even my lit professor believes that if the writing is strong enough when Superman has a conversation with Dr. M about optimism and cynicism, about hope and despair... All I'm saying is, the comic is bound to be taught by scholars, so it'll only make sense if someone (you) took a leap and provided a layout for that future front so that the teachers of tomorrow have a video that dissects Frank's and Johns' DC in some way.
Ideas for videos:
- Dissecting Dr. Manhattan's philosophy/psychology
- Analyzing Chapter 9 of Watchmen
- Exploring the heroic physics of Superman and optimism
Anyway, keep up the great work. This is amazing.
Thank you! I’m definitely interested in where Doomsday Clock goes and how it intersects with Watchmen by its end. We’ll see what happens but I’m hoping that it is thought provoking and philosophically focused. If it’s as interesting as I hope it will be, it will definitely be a video topic!
nah, doomsday clock was drawn out and boring, essentially just a way to retcon the new 52.
Perez is the king of superhero team books and superhero event books infinity gauntlet crisis avengers teen titans his WW RUN he is one of my all time favorite artists in comics he can draw anything. LLPEREZ
I see you are also a fan of The Midnight. Also the video was really awesome.
Isn't it the Infinity Stone
While I never read any super hero comics, I still have to appreciate the sheer scope of this story just by the illustration alone (Even if this video is spoiling the shit out of it to me)
YES YES YES!
Boys: Infinity Stone
Men: Infinity Gems
(This is a joke by the way)
Thanos is so terrible at being a nihilist.
You excited for the film? Fingers crossed. Anticipating it pretty hardcore. Though, I'm trying to keep them under wraps so I don't get my expectations unrealistically high.
I’m excited! I’m also trying to not get overhyped since that never helps a film.
To control everything in the universe with a mere ThoT
Very very well put. Since you did this one can you do Avengers infinity war?
Want they're a movie that had a quote about superman
YES,YES it is a burden
How is having unlimited everything a burden... can somebody just answer me that please.
Hahah baby Thanos
Collab with Kanye West-- I mean awesome video dude! (also FM-84?! Damn, nice choice!)
Whats the point of the other infinity stones when you just have the reality stone
I'd make it so Amy Hennig wrote a sequel to Legacy of Kain.
Awesome video review. Are going to do one for Crisis on Infinite Earths at same point?
Thank you! I think so, I’ll need to give it a re-read before I think of an angle on the subject.
Great video. Mephisto isn’t the lord of hell by the way
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Nice video although i think this story will be adapted for avengers 4
Thanks! Yeah I think Thanos won’t complete the gauntlet until the end, so we’ll see how that plays out in 4.
Matt Draper hmm true and I also remember them saying that thanos wants to kill half the life of the universe to save it I think he's trying to take the living tribunal position in the cosmos of the mcu
@@MattDraper how wrong you were
I'm a little confused, Thano's had the gauntlet for a brief moment of time, at least much less than Adam Warlock has, yet he knows the truth that godhood is beyond any mortal. Yet you then say that Adam Warlock doesn't understand this yet? Obviously, he does. Just because Thanos, or any other being with selfish motivations, cannot hold the power of godhood its clear that Adam Warlock can, otherwise he who lives in all times at once would realize his own fall as well. Seems to dispute the crux of the video.
xToxicInferno There is one critical difference between Adam and Thanos. The former is an artificial being, created by scientists he judged unworthy. So technically he's not actually mortal like Thanos and his existence outside the usual rules gives him his different perspective. Oh and he died a couple of times before this story started, once in Jesus fashion.
Also, if you remember Nebula only whished things, like she had a genie at her service.
That made me think that the conection with the gems only goes as deep as the wielder allows it. She just comands them, Thanos is aware only of his proximity and when usurpies Eternity's place he is not really prepared for omniscience. Warlock suposedly is, at least for this story, since in the inmediate secuel, the "Warlock and the Infinity watch" series, the living tribunal makes him divide the gems among other wielders.
I still think Thanos being motivated by wanting to impress a girl is ridiculous.
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Hope you enjoyed it!
It's made by you it's obviously awesome my friend
Thanos has killed the universe like five times now but never learns from his mistakes
Never!
Devon Palmer I did hear a suggestion about him which makes too much sense: it's more about the journey and the struggle than the actual goal. The guy putting out that theory (I want to say Ron Marz but don't quote me on that) capped off that theory with this thought: if he really wanted to take over the universe, you'd think he'd have done it by now.
He has multiple times, he just gets really bored every time trying to bang death and everything resets
Devon Palmer And why does he get bored? Because the struggle was more exciting.
Gamora is the one at the end not to be a smartass or ruin your video but that's Gamora
Just dont know why Perez left after the 1st issue.
Watch linkara review of infinity gauntlet. He explains it.
Thanos is not evil.
TL;DR: Thanos is a space incel
thanks for watching
sure life CAN mean nothing to you but its not the basic meaning of nihilism