I've been blown away by my Mach 6. Does everything and fast. Just gets out of the way and has been fine for me even going 30km long runs. I wanna rotate my shoes but then I wanna put the Mach 6 on for everything from easy to hard
How has the durability been? I've been seriously considering the Mach 6, but everywhere I read people complain about short durability and lifetime, and that's a very general sentiment I read online about Hoka shoes, so I'm on the edge.
Hi, Yowana. I just wanted to say I'm a beginner runner who picked up the habit 2 weeks ago. I find your your videos incredibly helpful and informative. You've earned another subscriber. Keep up the great work. Your videos are very motivational and have inspired me to want to be consistent with daily mileage and slow cardio progression even though it's only 5 K per day. I have literally picked up almost every shoe you talk about in all your videos. About 10 shoes in total. Make that 11 with the Puma Deviate Nitro 3 when I get a chance to get it. I've ran so much in the last 2 weeks, I now have shin splints and waiting to recover. I am proud of the work you have put into being a professional running enthusiast. Excellent work.
Haha I was waiting for the ‘I now have shin splints’ line and there it was 😂 Jokes aside, I’ve been there and with time and patience you will find a way to ramp up distance without getting injured. Enjoy the journey!
@@tadejdanev5030 definitely too many for a beginner. But if money ain't an issue I'm guessing he's finding a brand that fits him. For my feet it's new balance 1080, or puma nitros for daily. Asics is okay. My feet no likey saucony or Adidas I dno why... Haven't tried any running nike or brooks shoes
Wow! That is an incredible list of tested shoes. Well done for the Hobby Jogger Community!! Thanks you. I am loving my new Ghosts. 😄 Next I want to visit the NB Factory Store near me in Lawrence to see if I can find the NB1080V14
Have so many shoes, my daily trainers are more like once a week trainers😂 Also Happy holidays! Merry Christmas! Love seeing the growth of this channel and community
I've done over 600km on the NB 860v14s . Chose these for stability in a running shop after gait analysis. Used for all runs as trained for my first half marathon and the race itself. Been trust worthy and still doing the business as they approach 700km. Still have life for easy runs for sure. Will probably go for the Adizero SL2 next
Been usind DN3 as a daily trsiner. its great at easy paces, comfy and great grip. Ive run faster sessions it and its ok, but love it for easy cruising. The plate is pretty flexible and has a nice comfy ride. I totally agree with ur views on plates btw. There are lots of unplated shoes stiffer than plated ones. Hoka mach 6 vs endorphin speed 4 for example.
just bought some novablast 5s freakin love em, makes me wanna run every day. Grip has been great for me, destroyed my 11 mile run yesterday with light trail detours
Last half of the year NB 860v14 has been my main daily trainer. It runs very well at a variety of paces. My only concern is durability. The outsole is wearing much faster than the Saucony shoes -Ride 16 and Triumph 20 - that took most of my volume before the 860 came along.
This is my favorite category. I've taken the Adizero SL2 and the Deviate Nitro 2 on vacation and both were great. I do think a solid outsole is important for that test because you never know what you're going to encounter. I would 💯 use the MiniMag for a one shoe as well. I would describe it exactly the way you described the Ghost Max 2.
I’ve got the Magmax with me on a week long holiday right now, but it’s all outdoor running and no speed work this week. Base building with a mix of easy and tempo. If I were gone for longer, then I probably would’ve brought the Velocity Nitro 3 with me. But with my calves on the tighter side right now as I increase my mileage, I valued the extra protection more than a speed workout (only do once a week usually).
I bought the SL2 based on your reviews, and I have to say I LOVE how lightweight and bouncy it is, however, an advice to my fellow heavy hobby joggers is that the shoe is a bit unstable and make my knees hurt
I have more than 200 miles on my Pumas DN3, as my daily trainers, in my tempo runs a super awesome shoe! I loved it, I want to get the novablast 5 just to mix things up.
As a heavier runner (225 pounds) here's my Top 5 of 2024: 1. New Balance Fuel Cell SC Trainer V3 2. Saucony Tempus V1 or V2 3. Altra Torin V7 4. Nike Infinity RN4 5. New Balance Fuel Cell Rebel V4
I appreciate your definition of a daily trainer: shoes that you can use for any part of your training program. I think there really only needs to be two types of shoes: daily trainers and race-day shoes. I don't really buy into the idea that you need 4-5 pairs of shoes in your rotation. To me, tempo shoes, recovery shoes, long-run shoes, max cushion shoes are not necessary categories. These days I think many, many shoes can be used as daily trainers, meaning that they can cover all those catgories. Of course, everyone is free to buy as many pairs of shoes as they want and put them in as many categories as they want. But I don't understand the type of thinking that says your tempo-run shoes need to be at least an ounce lighter than your daily trainers.
Novablast 4 would have been the perfect shoe if Asics made it with the more substantial outsole. I want to be able to run on roads and trails and not to think about sharp rocks cutting through the foam. Having said that, SL2 and VN3 are just great all-rounders. Happy holidays to all fellow hobby joggers. 🎄
I’ve found my shoes are somewhat temperature sensitive. I’ve been rocking some Gel Nimbus in the 15-30 degree runs. That extra cushion helps with everything being stiff plus I m really just stacking miles and not feeling speedwork in that weather. I hardly wore these during Spring-Summer
I will say though i ran in the puma deviate nitro 3 in the snow and the grip was not great compared to the deviate nitro 2 which had better lugs. Any shoe in the low teens to near zero bricks up
I have had a real issue finding a daily trainer partly due to a knee issue that is more of a nuisance than anything but I have narrow feet and max cushion shoes don't always work hence not dally trainers. I am currently using the Pacer V2 for most of my runs. I am trying the Adidas SL 2 but I do not like the high drop. The Pacer is probably the highest I can stand and it does not seem to bother me. I actually ripped out the insole on the SL2 and put in an old insert from a pair of Rebel 2 with some padded mole skin under the arch. I am going to try them again. I am thinking that the Balos could be a daily trainer. I have done longer runs and short runs and picked up the pace during runs and the shoe did ok. I changed out the insole for one less thick so I could take advantage of the midsole foam which is good stuff. The Rebel V3 was a good daily trainer and if the V4 were not so wide in the arch area it would be good for that as well though not as cushioned. I may try the 860 since your review of it seemed to hit all the areas I have to consider. This was a good review.
SL2 my shoe of the year. Was slipping in Malaysia this morning - I do wish the grip was better on a wet surface. In saying that, I would like to buy another pair.
unpopular view, max stack is dead its about sub marathon stacks with energy return. physios/coach's are finding more runners with issues since max stack has become a regular trainer
It depends what you use the speed 2’s for ? IMO the Boston 12’s are better as they are more versatile……but if you only use the Speed 2’s for speed then they win.
Surprised to see the Deviate on this list. Here's why: It's in the speed trainer category. You had a certain attitude about this category a couple months ago, preferring to train in top-end race shoes for many workouts. I am looking forward to a best of in that category. I wonder about Brooks plated trainer compared to Magic Speed, this Puma, etc.
That kinda contributed to his point about people having different categories despite using the same names. Just like how, as far as I'm concerned, the 1080 can't be in a daily trainer category because it's way too squishy.
I agree. I bought the Ghost Max 2 and returned it. Ugly heavy clunky boot. Good cushion but slow, heavy, overheats, and clunky. Ghost Max 1 was lighter and faster but still an ugly boot.
@@yusuftv-f4rI actually like Ghost Max in terms of design. They look like casual shoes to me in comparison because I’m planning to use them as casual walking shoes. That is why I ordered one pair of first variation because it is on sale. I didn’t receive them yet.
My SL2’s cushion are dead after 100km. Was really disappointed since I was enjoying the bounce and nimbleness of a daily trainer. I’m a heavy runner, 100kg+ so maybe my weight is a big factor on the cushion, so I won’t recommend this to heavy runners.
Hehe came here to say something similar, Canada also using celcius. It just seems logical to me that 0c is the freezing point. Strangely we still using Feets and Farenheits in some situations like pool temperature and size. I think feets make sense because they are basically the lenght of my foot so its easier to estimate
Yeah I knew his joke was going to get some comments. Let’s just say it bricks up when it’s F’N cold. F’N cold is a legit scientific measurement term that is universally recognized.
Maybe the real best daily trainer is the friend we made along the way…
I felt that
@@Lukas-md8fpI didn’t make any new friends this year… so I donno whether to pick Adidas or Asics 😂😂😂
@ both will become your best friend 😁
@@Lukas-md8fp yeah, they both have names that are easy to remember
LMAO
Thanks! As a physician, I find your knowledge of running physiology incredibly in-depth, professional and on-point
Thank you! 🙌🏽🫡 much appreciated
Merry Xmas my dude! What a great year of running. Your channel was a bliss while I was injured, funny and informative. Keep up the amazing work Yo!
Thank you man! I appreciate the kind words and glad I could be along for the journey 🙌🏽💪🏽 hope the injury is healed up too
I've been blown away by my Mach 6. Does everything and fast. Just gets out of the way and has been fine for me even going 30km long runs. I wanna rotate my shoes but then I wanna put the Mach 6 on for everything from easy to hard
How has the durability been? I've been seriously considering the Mach 6, but everywhere I read people complain about short durability and lifetime, and that's a very general sentiment I read online about Hoka shoes, so I'm on the edge.
Really loving my novablast 5s. Had to put the rest of my rotation on hold because I keep wanting to bring out the novablasts
Because of you I have 3 out of 5 shoes on the list. I love you and your reviews 😁 merry Christmas
Hi, Yowana. I just wanted to say I'm a beginner runner who picked up the habit 2 weeks ago. I find your your videos incredibly helpful and informative. You've earned another subscriber. Keep up the great work. Your videos are very motivational and have inspired me to want to be consistent with daily mileage and slow cardio progression even though it's only 5 K per day. I have literally picked up almost every shoe you talk about in all your videos. About 10 shoes in total. Make that 11 with the Puma Deviate Nitro 3 when I get a chance to get it. I've ran so much in the last 2 weeks, I now have shin splints and waiting to recover. I am proud of the work you have put into being a professional running enthusiast. Excellent work.
Haha I was waiting for the ‘I now have shin splints’ line and there it was 😂 Jokes aside, I’ve been there and with time and patience you will find a way to ramp up distance without getting injured. Enjoy the journey!
@frits8986 Thanks.
dude you have 11 pairs? and i thought i was weird with 3-4 pairs :P
@@tadejdanev5030 definitely too many for a beginner. But if money ain't an issue I'm guessing he's finding a brand that fits him.
For my feet it's new balance 1080, or puma nitros for daily. Asics is okay. My feet no likey saucony or Adidas I dno why... Haven't tried any running nike or brooks shoes
@tadejdanev5030 Haha. I'm trying them all out. The ones i don't like, I'll return. I'll post a review here of my findings.
Wow! That is an incredible list of tested shoes. Well done for the Hobby Jogger Community!!
Thanks you. I am loving my new Ghosts. 😄 Next I want to visit the NB Factory Store near me in Lawrence to see if I can find the NB1080V14
Have so many shoes, my daily trainers are more like once a week trainers😂
Also Happy holidays! Merry Christmas! Love seeing the growth of this channel and community
I've done over 600km on the NB 860v14s . Chose these for stability in a running shop after gait analysis. Used for all runs as trained for my first half marathon and the race itself. Been trust worthy and still doing the business as they approach 700km. Still have life for easy runs for sure. Will probably go for the Adizero SL2 next
Been usind DN3 as a daily trsiner. its great at easy paces, comfy and great grip. Ive run faster sessions it and its ok, but love it for easy cruising. The plate is pretty flexible and has a nice comfy ride. I totally agree with ur views on plates btw. There are lots of unplated shoes stiffer than plated ones. Hoka mach 6 vs endorphin speed 4 for example.
just bought some novablast 5s
freakin love em, makes me wanna run every day. Grip has been great for me, destroyed my 11 mile run yesterday with light trail detours
Last half of the year NB 860v14 has been my main daily trainer. It runs very well at a variety of paces. My only concern is durability. The outsole is wearing much faster than the Saucony shoes -Ride 16 and Triumph 20 - that took most of my volume before the 860 came along.
This is my favorite category. I've taken the Adizero SL2 and the Deviate Nitro 2 on vacation and both were great. I do think a solid outsole is important for that test because you never know what you're going to encounter.
I would 💯 use the MiniMag for a one shoe as well. I would describe it exactly the way you described the Ghost Max 2.
I’ve got the Magmax with me on a week long holiday right now, but it’s all outdoor running and no speed work this week. Base building with a mix of easy and tempo. If I were gone for longer, then I probably would’ve brought the Velocity Nitro 3 with me. But with my calves on the tighter side right now as I increase my mileage, I valued the extra protection more than a speed workout (only do once a week usually).
I bought the sl2 because of you. Highly recommended!
It was good but the ankle collar dug into my ankles
SL2 are so good. Very happy to get them on sale. Such a versatile trainer
@@Scott25368i had the same issue unfortunately
SL2 GANG
I bought the SL2 based on your reviews, and I have to say I LOVE how lightweight and bouncy it is, however, an advice to my fellow heavy hobby joggers is that the shoe is a bit unstable and make my knees hurt
I have more than 200 miles on my Pumas DN3, as my daily trainers, in my tempo runs a super awesome shoe! I loved it, I want to get the novablast 5 just to mix things up.
The goose jacket, supwell making bank badaboom
As a heavier runner (225 pounds) here's my Top 5 of 2024:
1. New Balance Fuel Cell SC Trainer V3
2. Saucony Tempus V1 or V2
3. Altra Torin V7
4. Nike Infinity RN4
5. New Balance Fuel Cell Rebel V4
I appreciate your definition of a daily trainer: shoes that you can use for any part of your training program. I think there really only needs to be two types of shoes: daily trainers and race-day shoes. I don't really buy into the idea that you need 4-5 pairs of shoes in your rotation. To me, tempo shoes, recovery shoes, long-run shoes, max cushion shoes are not necessary categories. These days I think many, many shoes can be used as daily trainers, meaning that they can cover all those catgories. Of course, everyone is free to buy as many pairs of shoes as they want and put them in as many categories as they want. But I don't understand the type of thinking that says your tempo-run shoes need to be at least an ounce lighter than your daily trainers.
16:59 on first listen I thought you said “ah man this foam got me bricked up” lmaoo
Happy holidays my G
Lmao bro that's wild 😂 enjoy the holidays
Great list! Merry Christmas!
Thank you Bob merry christmas! 🙌🏽
Novablast 4 would have been the perfect shoe if Asics made it with the more substantial outsole. I want to be able to run on roads and trails and not to think about sharp rocks cutting through the foam. Having said that, SL2 and VN3 are just great all-rounders.
Happy holidays to all fellow hobby joggers. 🎄
you could check the novablast 4 tr which has a different outsole , a bit more material. Might interest you.
@@barrazaillustration9383 Thanks, it still got too much exposed foam.
Best video to decide my training shoe for 2025
Novablast and Puma deviate nitro make the top 5 every year. 👏👏👏
I’ve found my shoes are somewhat temperature sensitive. I’ve been rocking some Gel Nimbus in the 15-30 degree runs. That extra cushion helps with everything being stiff plus I m really just stacking miles and not feeling speedwork in that weather. I hardly wore these during Spring-Summer
Always Like your Studio set up 😂 nice list …. greets
I will say though i ran in the puma deviate nitro 3 in the snow and the grip was not great compared to the deviate nitro 2 which had better lugs. Any shoe in the low teens to near zero bricks up
I also used the Puma DN3 as my daily training shoe.
I have had a real issue finding a daily trainer partly due to a knee issue that is more of a nuisance than anything but I have narrow feet and max cushion shoes don't always work hence not dally trainers. I am currently using the Pacer V2 for most of my runs. I am trying the Adidas SL 2 but I do not like the high drop. The Pacer is probably the highest I can stand and it does not seem to bother me. I actually ripped out the insole on the SL2 and put in an old insert from a pair of Rebel 2 with some padded mole skin under the arch. I am going to try them again. I am thinking that the Balos could be a daily trainer. I have done longer runs and short runs and picked up the pace during runs and the shoe did ok. I changed out the insole for one less thick so I could take advantage of the midsole foam which is good stuff. The Rebel V3 was a good daily trainer and if the V4 were not so wide in the arch area it would be good for that as well though not as cushioned. I may try the 860 since your review of it seemed to hit all the areas I have to consider. This was a good review.
Cheaper puma mag max is the magnify nitro 😅
SL2 my shoe of the year.
Was slipping in Malaysia this morning - I do wish the grip was better on a wet surface.
In saying that, I would like to buy another pair.
Was set on getting either the 860 or the GM2 for the last week and now Puma has entered the chat smh
Of the 5, which one are you walking in (on holiday)? Guessing the NB 860?
I wish you and your family a vwey Merry Christmas
Are the slugs still out or are they seasonal?+
I think the chickens ate them all 😢 charli said she saw 1 last week though
Why is the Superblast 2 not a daily trainer, or did it not make your top 5?
unpopular view, max stack is dead its about sub marathon stacks with energy return. physios/coach's are finding more runners with issues since max stack has become a regular trainer
Try the new Kiprun KD900x v2
Only available in Asia right now
I've bought it and it is super bouncy, soft with non aggresive Carbon Plate.
Are the Boston 12 similar to the endorphin speed 2? I have the speed 2 not sure if it makes sense getting the Boston
It depends what you use the speed 2’s for ?
IMO the Boston 12’s are better as they are more versatile……but if you only use the Speed 2’s for speed then they win.
@nkululekomabaso4273 i use them for speed training and series
Nova blast 5 are so good
Surprised to see the Deviate on this list. Here's why:
It's in the speed trainer category.
You had a certain attitude about this category a couple months ago, preferring to train in top-end race shoes for many workouts.
I am looking forward to a best of in that category. I wonder about Brooks plated trainer compared to Magic Speed, this Puma, etc.
That kinda contributed to his point about people having different categories despite using the same names. Just like how, as far as I'm concerned, the 1080 can't be in a daily trainer category because it's way too squishy.
I do the same thing! Checking the adidas app everyday in hopes of lucking out on their random $64 Boston 12 sale days to stockpile.
Hope to see Peg Plus in this
Yea the sl2 in this category is the best for me but so is the Hyperion 2
I am not sure if I heard that correctly...and did you hesitate?
I have dn2 and novablast 3
The ghost max just looks like such a basketball shoe to me, I could never
I agree. I bought the Ghost Max 2 and returned it. Ugly heavy clunky boot. Good cushion but slow, heavy, overheats, and clunky. Ghost Max 1 was lighter and faster but still an ugly boot.
@@yusuftv-f4rI actually like Ghost Max in terms of design. They look like casual shoes to me in comparison because I’m planning to use them as casual walking shoes. That is why I ordered one pair of first variation because it is on sale. I didn’t receive them yet.
49 seconds. 0 views. Fell off.
Let’s do this dam thing let’s go
💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
My SL2’s cushion are dead after 100km. Was really disappointed since I was enjoying the bounce and nimbleness of a daily trainer.
I’m a heavy runner, 100kg+ so maybe my weight is a big factor on the cushion, so I won’t recommend this to heavy runners.
@@erestain17 you should go for the Saucony ride 18 or Adidas ultraboost 5, that beaded TPU midsole lasts easily for 600 miles. I'm Heavy runner also
@@Lukas-md8fp My Saucony Triumph 20’s endorse this message.
Now I wanna see all 67 ranked HAHA (jk nobody has time for that)
Magmax got the BBL
Well I see why the supwell app price went up…
@17:46 " Negative 2 communist"...Celcius was Swedish. I didn't know Sweden was a a communist country !!!! And Farenheit was Polish by the way......
Hehe came here to say something similar, Canada also using celcius. It just seems logical to me that 0c is the freezing point. Strangely we still using Feets and Farenheits in some situations like pool temperature and size. I think feets make sense because they are basically the lenght of my foot so its easier to estimate
Sweden is a socialist country from the perspective of right wing thinkers.
@@jean-philWeight conversion is also common in practice from ounces and pounds to grams and kilograms.
Yeah I knew his joke was going to get some comments. Let’s just say it bricks up when it’s F’N cold. F’N cold is a legit scientific measurement term that is universally recognized.