PVC vs Corrugated Pipe - The Real Truth - Yard Drainage
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I can't believe it took me this long to learn that about corrugated. Thank you.
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Spoken like a true professional
Its really nice to be able to get so much beneficial information delivered concisely in one video! Thanks for taking the time to ensure this platform remains a place to learn.
This is a voice refreshing my mind!
Great Video. Now I finally understand why my system started failing. Live in Mid Atlantic and while we don't often get a deep freeze, it does happen occasionally. Sure enough, cracked PNC connectors right a ground level
Thanks for the video. It has been my practice in north Texas to lay that corrugated pipe for French drains and closed pipe applications. Now I am trying to divert water from a shed/pump house with run off and silt and 2” root systems. Thanks for describing the options as I figure this out. All the best!
Great tutorial! Thanks. I knew nothing before. Very helpful
Thank you. Your video timing is a life saver.
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Superior explanations and details provided. Really helps the DYI understand what materials to purchase and how they fit or don't fit. I went from wanting corrugated for the flexibility to triple to SDR based on your advice for Northern freeze area, for a simple garage floor drain line to daylight. So many choices available but your visual explanations made the decisions easy. Thank you!
Thank you for the positive comment and glad we could help!
Excellent video. Most people are very confused by pipe differences, but they don’t realize it. I’m in Georgia so PVC especially SDR35 is the go to stuff down here. Why would anyone use FDM corrugated pipe for cold climate work when the double wall hdpe is available? That smooth wall inside moves water MUCH better. And you can snake/jet it much better too.
You answered my question…thanks!
What if you're in a cold climate and you're burying the pipe 5-7 feet down (footing drain). That's below the frost line in Massachusetts, where I'm located. I'm thinking I'll go ahead and use SDR 35. But should I be using triple-wall HDPE for the cleanouts since they ascend vertically through the frost line?
I use a lot of French Drain Man ideas
I live in the north
He's got a video for just about every scenario
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Very good video. Thank you SO much❤❤❤
275 feet of 350 feet of pipe will have both 4”perforated and 4” solid pvc S&D, solid to carry downspout, catch basin surface water and perforated (French Drain) for sub terrain water. So my trench will be 4”(solid)+4”(perforated)+4” void space for rock so 12” wide. My trencher cuts a 5” wide trench so that means I will have to make two passes, can you make two passes with a trencher without throwing the dirt from the first pass or trench into the first trench or is it possible to stack the pipes with the French drain being on the bottom to collect water?
Thank you for the clarification from what i undestand that i need to use fdm ppipe
Very educational, thank you!
Trying to do my home drainage system and this info helps a lot.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Good Stuff!
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Great information
Great Video, super informative, you let me know I chose the right piping for my region, but I didn't use the correct glue, I won't make the same mistake on the next project using it. Thanks for the great video
Great video. Thank you so much. Can tell you do honest work. Hope you suceed massively.
Thank god! There's so much "opinion" out there that's not based in fact. It's always suspicious when you see a one size fits all claim. Appreciate it!
Sage pipe advice from a young guy with old school knowledge
Well Explained. Thanks
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Thanks very much that video is outstanding
Solid info . I don't normally comment, but thank you.
Thank you for your support, I will keep the videos coming! 🤠
I would NEVER use schedule 20. Just ripped out tons from yard. Very wasy to get rooted up and warp too.
Installed sched 40 5yrs ago in midwest and works great.
Great job with history of corrugated!
You can put pvc pipe next to a French drain pipe in the same trench, correct? Even in a northern climate?
Incredibly informative. Subscribed - Thank you.
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Is it okay use sdr35 in North Carolina? Coldest we get in winter is 40 but average is about 55 degrees
Great video. So much info available nowadays. Wish I'd had this one 10 years ago when I buried sched 40 in my suburban Chicago yard to replace blocked/root intruded black corrugated. Hope it's holding up. It was at least perfectly graded.
It will work better than anything he posted here. SCH 40 is king.
awesome content, thanks for explaining!
Not a problem, thank you for the support!
Septic system was installed last year. They used cellular core sched 40, Pipes runs 3’ deep under blacktop driveway.
I would like to buy some baughman virgin pipe but the shipping cost to washington state is prohibitive!!!
I currently have the need for draining certain areas of my farm/yard. The Blue pipe you show, has been difficult for me to find people who even know about it, and those that know about it so it is very cost prohibitive. I am in midstate New York between Norwich and East Berlin. The frost line is very deep inside and my drainage needs are reasonably shallow. Perhaps I missed the rough cost differential per foot between the black corrugated and the blue corrugated? Given my limited equipment weight, I’m probably going with the black corrugated and crushed stone. All that said, I did really enjoy the video. Thank you.
As others have said, thank you for the very informative video. This has really shaped my thinking on how to drain sump discharge in Climate zone 5 (Chicago area). Based on local materials availability, the most practical HDPE solution is actually triple wall. I'm concerned PVC S&D fittings used above the freeze line may be problematic. Doesn't this carry some of the same risk as using SDR 35 or Sch. 40 pipe under these conditions? Or does the overall flexibility of a HDPE system allow the fittings to "float" and maintain their integrity over time? Thank you.
Tks to prevent the root from getting into the pipe I saw video where many pipes are put over the drain pipe
Not sure if it s workind
In Canadian climate which kind pipe to use in area where it is feezing and we have big tree roots
Thanks, its really helpfull ^^
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I learned a few good things in this video. Good to know about "cellular core"
Glad we could be of some help🤠
Very informative video. Thanks
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Awesome video. Got a question... If you used double or triple wall corrugated for yard drainage, you showed thin-wall sewer & drain fittings. Aren't those fittings PVC and will crack the same as PVC pipe underground? Are there better fittings for double/triple wall for freezes?
Really useful info, helped me out a lot👍 you kinda remind me of Mac from Sunny in Philadelphia, maybe like his brother. Country Mac R.I.P.
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Very informative! Thanks for sharing... 😁👍👍👍👍👍
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I am in michigan and our sump drain in ground is MAYBE buried 2 inches, in spots its visible, its a french drain type tube, but my yard is a swamp, so I am going to dig this up and see if its blocked or whatnot. My question is obviously it should go deeper, but how do i END this pipe, is it capped in the ground, do I just stop the pipe at a dirt end? The yard is almost flat but exits to a marshy swamp wetland area so I can't quite bring it to daylight due to no slope.
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Treasure trove of good info. Thanks.
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I'm in NJ and looking to run pipe from my sump pump downspout to the street(under the sidewalk to a hole in my curb). Is only going like 6 inches under the ground ok? I have a gas line and drain line very close to where I have to run the pipe and don't want to hit either one
Can sch 40 be used under a concrete driveway or would a dual wall hdpe be better? Located In WI
My uncle buit a house for his family in the late 50s. He used that tar paper type drain. It just recently failed. It was a shock seeing it because I never heard of it till then.
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Super helpful. I've been a believer in SCH20 for my non freezing climate, but now I know why. Three questions:
1. Many contractors do not solvent weld, only dry fit. I've heard both was is ok. Thoughts? It is a very tight fit.
2. NDS says use a basin at the base of a downspout vs. connecting directly to pipe for access and flushing. You say?
3. Do you put in clean outs for residential? Necessary?
Always solvent weld when you are building with PVC. Anybody that says you don’t have to solvent weld your joints is cutting corners.
Once the water is caught in a downspout you need to keep it contained and run a pipe directly to that downspout. The catch basin under the downspout is a failed idea. On heavy rain storms the amount of water lost between the downspout and catch basin is enormous. Just build a clean out into your downspout pipe for access.
We usually put a clean out on one end of the system but sometimes if it’s a straight pipe discharge we may not depending on the situation.
SDR35 is fine for drains in cold climates. Septic drain fields are often SDR35 and are installed above the frost line, sometimes the entire system is above the frost line. The use of SDR35 is not a problem for buried gravity fed drains. It is made for that. More rigid PVC like schedule 40 is not used for things like sprinklers up north because it is too rigid.
Of course you are right. Why would the pipe be full of water when it goes below freezing?
It was very informative but u didn’t talk about the blue ones
Those are getting their own separate video soon 💪
Can you use the black cheap pipe for a low traffic area that will only have a push rotary mower, nothing heavy. Located in South Alabama.
If it’s residential I would recommend using the FDM high octane pipe but if your going to use the big box store corrugated pipe make sure you have a really good slope to your trench before you burry that pipe. But as I’ve stated I would not use that pipe in residential applications.
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions Thanks for the advise. I went with the PVC Sewer and Drain pipe. FDM shipping puts it way too expensive plus I have no danger of freezing.
I'm trying to replace some crushed single-wall pipes. It seems the double wall is very hard to find, but triple wall seem available locally. Is it worth the effort to drive 2 hours to a store for a dual wall, or is the triple wall a very good option?
Dual wall is stronger than triple wall and dual wall comes in 20’ sections which means less joints and a quicker install. Also the bell ends on the dual wall are 10x better than the triple wall bell ends.
Is PVC still OK in Seattle weather? We are north but we might get 1-2 days of snow a year. It doesn't normally freeze. I am considering extending my downspouts and your video make me think whether I should use PVC or HDPE
Good question, if you do experience any freezes at all in the year then we would recommend going with a high quality Hdpe drainage pipe.
For a perforated drainage pipe, nothing beats the high-octane corrugated HDPE. It is vastly superior to all others.
Is southern Maryland considered “northern” enough to not use SDR35?
Any thoughts on ABS pipe in freezing climates? I’m reading they should stand up.
Good question! ABS will be fine in cold temperatures but the problem with it is that because a lot of companies that manufacture it use re-grind or recycled plastic to make the pipe more cost effective. This causes it to be weak in certain areas leading to failure. The ABS that I have seen here in FL that has failed in (Sanitary sewer applications) has always been at a joint. My theory is the solvent cement weakens it when the pipe and fitting were glued together and eventually it cracks because of this. A lot of places have outlawed its use in Sanitary sewer systems.
LOVE THESE VIDEOS! I’m in Dallas TX and we do not have a lot of freeze here but we do get them. Is PVC save or would you recommend the blue corrugated pipe?
Glad to hear that you enjoy our videos! If you experience any type of freezes throughout the year then we would recommend using a high quality HDPE corrugated pipe.
One problem with your video field tile can be as shallow as 18 inch's. You might start at 3 to 5 feet but you can be as little at 18 inch deep. Also long as you install it with slope you will not get much build in the tile. The water coming in will wash it away. They will also bring it up to the surfaces for inlets.
What type of pvc pipe should be used 10 feet underground for drainage?
Would you use PVC in Wichita, KS?
Great video!! I was going to buy the FDM pipe and geothermal punched material until he wanted $350 for shipping.
What state do you live? Im one state down from him (indiana) and im hesitant still.
I’m in SC. Maybe you will get a better price. I just ended up doing a sock pipe. I will just jet it every year to make sure it doesn’t clog.
No kidding. I was looking to get some of that pipe and they wanted almost $500 for shipping to Maine. The pipe itself was less than $200.
@LV-1969 same issue in NH. I can't justify that.
What is the opinion for using NDA EZ Drain in Tennessee?
Good question, my advice is to build a real stone French drain with non woven geo textile fabric that encapsulates the pipe and stone. It will last a lifetime if built properly with the correct materials.
I'm in Northern Ohio. So, Can't use PVC I guess?
So, PVC pipe in northern climates is bad, but the PVC fittings are ok to use with the triple wall HDPE?
We really have a LOT of 4-6" PVC that services gutter drains and aren't generally down too deep from house builders. So that is bad too?
Just asking because I'm confused and want to do the best I can. Thanks!
Alright, basically the main cause of PVC drainage systems cracking in climates where it freezes is due to water sitting in the pipe. This can happen if the pipe forms a belly or it gets clogged with debris and the water cannot escape. When water freezes it expands and PVC is so ridged that it cracks. Another thing that can happen over time is the constant fluctuations in temperature can lead damage. Also frost heave can cause a PVC pipe to break. Now with Triple wall pipe the PVC fittings aren’t solvent welded to the pipe because those two types of plastic cannot be bonded together in that manner so the joint and pipe are able to move with tile tape/ Hdpe glue. The glue stays rubbery and allows give. But I would suspect that if a joint on a triple wall system would become filled with water due to a clog and it froze then that fitting could potentially crack. Using HDPE pipe in a climate that freezes is ensuring that your system won’t crack that’s why we suggest using that material in the north. You can use PVC in the north but the percentage of failure is higher than HDPE that’s all. Also if you want a smooth walled HDPE pipe for your system, look into dual wall pipe. It is incredibly strong.
Does freeze/thaw still crack SDR35 joints if they are push-together gasketed joints instead of solvent-welded? I would think a gasketed joint would have more flexibility. Thanks!
Your spot on, it allows the pipe and fitting to be able to shift with ground movement.
Good question keiv! This is a great solution without adding gravel to prevent that frost movement.
Which is best to install as a culvert under my driveway?
Either reenforced precast concrete pipe or dual wall Hdpe culvert pipe
What drainage pipe would you recommend for someone living in the Tidewater region of Virginia?
Rule of thumb is if you experience freezes and thaws go with a high quality HDPE pipe.
Lowe's product page for ADS 4" corrugated pipe states the material is "high-density polyethylene materials".
It is HDPE, but it’s from re-grind recycled materials. That’s why it’s not as strong as pure Hdpe plastic. Also, the single wall pipe they produce for Lowe’s is thinner than a pipe they produce for a drainage supply store that is willing to pay more $$$ for it. We have a supplier here is FL that sells a good ADS single wall drainage pipe that is much stronger and thicker than the one Lowe’s sells but it also costs more.
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions The videos from FDM definitely show that the product he sells is far superior. It's not surprising that the big box stores neglect some details in product descriptions. They are becoming just as bad as Amazon.
Great info here, thanks for sharing, is double or Triple wall HDPE ok for under concrete driveway? Thanks!
Under concrete I would use dual wall instead of triple wall.
Thanks buddy, couldn’t find double wall at Home Depot for whatever reason i went with triple 🤷🏼♂️ better than the perforated the concrete guy recommend…
@@ScottieBMan Definitely don’t use a perforated pipe under concrete! That will cause erosion/ sinking of the concrete.
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions yeah ripped that out before the pour! Thanks for this valuable info my man, I’m subbed
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Is Freeze/thaw different from frost? We are in San Francisco Bay area and get about 20 days per year with frost. Maybe 1-2 days we can find a thin layer of ice less than 1/4 inch thickness at the surface of our bird bath. Would pvc pipe work in our climate?
Very different. In the north east the ground can freeze 4+ ft down and that ice really moves stuff. Frost or shallow layer of ice won't do damage like solid ice in the ground will
I live in New York City I’m about to get my drainage done to get the water away from my house what you think about pvc
You can use sch40 PVC or the blue high octane polyurethane corrugated pipe. Check out French drain man videos - a lot of info! Good luck
What settings can be used for the blue pipe
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@@raneybaker7798 Normal corrugated fittings work with the blue pipe💪
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Cellular core pvc is like copper clad aluminum network cable. Its a cheap inferior alternative that should be avoided.
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Pvc is made stronger and more durable. The reason most imof the French contractors like more corrugated is because is more easy to install..(easy money)..
Corrugated is the way I’m going in the northeast. Do you suggest a pop up emitter or drained for gutter downspout extension?
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Pvc waunt crack they use it on cape cod on septic systems that are like 1.5 foot and a half under the ground it donst freeze thats a lie it dosnt crack lie
Research frost heave. Also if there is any water in that PVC pipe it can crack if it freezes because the pipe will expand.
So you expect me to believe that when you use the same tile tape on the FDM blue pipe it magically seals differently then Big-Box black pipe..hahaha haha. You contradicted yourself as well. You said the black pipe comes on long rolls, but then went on about how roots will get into the seams. Well, if you dont have any seams then roots aren't getting in. You need to change your narration to explain that you should install it in continous lengths with few seams as possible. Not, don't use it, just get the FDM pipe for 5 times the cost. Don't get me wrong I have ordered the basins from FDM, definitely superior products.
Idk if you misunderstood what I said or didn’t listen to the entire video but I was explaining that the box store corrugated pipe is more prone to failure in yard drainage because it crushes very easily. Tree and shrub roots wrap around this pipe and crush it down and will find their way in once it does this. And yes there are seams/joints with this pipe when you’re using it for yard drainage. Whenever you connect a lateral in for a downspout or catch basin etc… it has to connect into the mainline. This will make a seam. Tile tape will definitely be beneficial for box store pipe but that won’t change the fact that the material is poor quality unlike a heavy duty corrugated pipe. FDM isn’t the only thick walled pipe on the market, ADS makes one too but you won’t find it at a box store. With that being said though FDM is the only pipe with virgin plastic and has no recycled materials added to it. Also we have a video on best practices of installing big box store corrugated pipe: th-cam.com/video/AhleuTRv1WI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iFodJ91npeytaCT-
Corrugated pipe will not hold up, solid pipe is always better and I have never seen it crack because ground freezing
Depends on the application and the type of pipe. A lot of pipe manufacturers make a really strong thick single wall corrugated pipe but you won’t find it in a big box store/home improvement store.
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This information about pvc in northern climates is totally false. You can use pvc and there is no freeze damage. All irrigation mains are pvc that is blown out for winter and buried at similar depths to drainage with no damage or leaks under full water pressure for decades. The info about double wall (smooth inner wall) pipe and single wall moving debris is good. PVC will always be more expensive but longer lasting. Single wall corrugated has its place like french drains, double wall corrugated for moving debris, etc......
Not false. PVC does crack in freezing temperatures. Water lines that are not in use for awhile have to be turned on slightly at the tap to create a drip to keep the water flowing so it does not freeze and break the pipe. Irrigation mains would have a constant flow of water going through them feeding entire neighborhoods so it does not have time to freeze. At least that’s my understanding from what plumbers in the north have explained to me. When it comes to drainage systems, if there is an area in a system that holds water (belly in the pipe) it can freeze in the winter and crack the pipe or fittings. Frost heave can also crack pvc pipes and fittings. PVC pipe is awesome, if you watch our channel you will see that we install a LOT of it in FL but it definitely has its advantages and disadvantages like every other drainage pipe on the market. UV damage from the sun is another huge weakness with pvc but this one can easily be avoided by painting it if it’s exposed. In my opinion HDPE is the future in water lines and drainage lines, it really is an excellent choice of plastic for these applications when you weigh all the pros and cons. The biggest issue with Hdpe from all the research I’ve done is that I don’t think it can be successfully solvent welded using a chemical. (I haven’t found a way to do it yet at least) But it can be heat welded together pretty easily: m.th-cam.com/video/NLHQKcHUqIA/w-d-xo.html
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions I'm talking about lawn irrigation systems that are "winterized" and have water blown out of them not water mains for potable municipal water supply that are 4-5 foot deep. Have installed, sold, and owned these systems you describe from zone 3 to 5 with none of the problems you describe from second hand knowledge. Any drainage system that is installed incorrectly will fail but from experience a belly always fails from debris building up and not from pipe breakage failure. A belly in pvc is much harder to create because it is rigid and corrugated will fall in a low spot. pvc can be cleared with a snake if a blockage occurs(almost never like smooth wall corrugated). Honestly there is much less difference between how drainage is installed in Florida compared to the north than you believe. Look at a quality tape not a solvent for HDPE pipe connections.
Who ever sold you on pvc drain tile breaking from freeze is wrong. Not only is sdr35 overly adequate but thinner wall ASTM D2729 standards is plenty strong for non traffic bearing loads in a drainage application.
Any pvc pipe totally full of water when frozen can crack but even an over half full pipe won't crack when frozen. This almost never happens in drainage but is theoretically possible. This is why northern irrigation is blown out(but always has residual water partially filling pipes) but doesn't fail.
@@stephennoble3411 I know sprinkler systems have to be winterized in the north, I was just using water mains as the example. And I can’t stand it when the irrigation guys down here use sch20 pipe to save $$$ for sprinkler systems. The stuff is just way too weak. Now, the reason I believe that pvc drainage pipe can develop cracks and breaks in northern climates due to the cold is because I have seen camera inspection footage from plumbers in northern climates that have shown me what can happen over time. I have camera inspected hundreds of pvc systems in FL and have never seen cracks and breaks like the ones I was seeing in these inspection footage from northern climates. So all that leads me to believe it can and does happen. And yes you are correct when we install our corrugated systems we use pvc tile tape on all the joints. And when it comes to pvc schedule, thin wall 20 is not the greatest because it has a tendency to crush and collapse pretty easily from what I have seen. If I install it I would only put it where nothing would drive over it. Sdr35 is a much better option than 20. I also know that in northern climates they install pvc sewer lines and mains below the frost line. If they don’t have to worry about it freezing, cracking and breaking why even do that? In FL they are installed no where near as deep as in the north. Clearing clogs from pvc systems is definitely easier if the pipe is in good shape. I dread using an auger cable in a single walled corrugated pipe unless it’s a heavy duty single walled one. But at the end of the day the pvc cold climate debate will continue on 🥶✌️
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Thank you for this video. I'm a homeowner in the North that wants to get the job done right. As usual with most home projects, everyone has a different opinion. I have been looking at many options to drain my gutters. I originally planned on going below the frost line, (with a dry well) but couldn't even find that in my area. I called my local town, they said 36 inches. When I called the plumbers that I use, they said that water mains have to be 54 inches deep. I couldn't imagine going 54 inches into the ground. When I spoke with them about burying PVC above the frost line, he said in 30 years, he has never seen any breaks in buried PVC. As you said, the debate lives on. I absolutely think that burying PVC above the frost line and it cracking has merit. With that being said, can you guide me to a video on how to install double wall or HDPE with all of the connections? I would also like the piece that goes to my downspout to be white so it doesn't look funny. Thanks for any help that you could provide.
@@Bryan-109 Check out French Drain Man’s channel. His corrugated Hdpe system is one of the best if you incorporate his leaf filters and sediment traps in your system. The main problem is the cost of his pipe to have a roll or two shipped is expensive. But he may have a distributor in your area. Dual wall is another really good option imo. You can usually find it in a waterworks supply store. I don’t have a video on dual wall yet but I plan to make one in the future. But basically the fittings and pipe are a gasket system which will make a water tight seal. You can also tile tape them to add an extra layer of protection.
I don’t buy it
So much misinformation. Shameful!
Please elaborate…
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions frost heave is an upward movement. All pipe is susceptible to its forces. Yes, corrugated pipe will move with this upward force, but in the end the result is the same. A deformed pipe that is now useless (due to the upward movement resulting in an upward bowed pipe) for its intended purpose of moving water. It’s no longer pitched correctly. If flex pipe was immune to the forces of frost heave, which it is NOT, then natural gas and oil lines would all be flex pipe. Also, frost heave does not occur in all cold weather soils. Specific soil types are more prone to frost heave than others. Just because you live in a cold weather climate does not mean the soils will frost heave. Not all clay soils are created equally, it’s the specific minerals in a clay soil that make it more prone to swelling resulting in frost heave. There are literally thousands of studies done by oil and gas companies on the effects of frost heave on buried pipe lines. The important thing to try to decipher when reading them - is the end result of frost heave - the upward movement is the demise of ALL buried pipes.
If you wish, I can provide sources for you to verify. Or, maybe take the necessary steps to support your opinions, because without sources or studies to back it up - it’s just an opinion. The French drain man always spewing facts, but never spewing sources to back his facts up. His opinion is based on selling a product.
@@brooksbelanger8799 Interesting information. But at the end of the day if you are in a freezing climate HDPE pipe will not crack or break compared with PVC pipe which is a huge advantage especially for keeping roots out of a system. If that pipe moves in the ground and throws the pitch off a little bit it doesn’t matter much if I can get my camera in that line to find the issue area to repair it. PVC would crack all up and need an entire system replacement. Sanitary sewer lines made of PVC pipe are installed below the frost line for a reason in these climates. If you watched the full video you will remember the part when I said every thing will need maintenance even your own body. Also, FDM pipe and products are top notch. If you have ever physically seen and handled them then you would understand he is not making cheap stuff. I enjoy using his products just like I enjoy using products from Silverline, Prinsco, ADS, NDS etc. Another thing is these studies you speak of sound great in theory but how do you know you can trust those fully? For example the pharmaceutical companies get new drugs approved all the time by fabricating their studies on these drugs. Which later after years and years of use end up getting pulled from the market because of issues that were never stated in the beginning. I have seen the problems of these drainage systems for myself out in the field and am going to go on what I have witnessed. There is no silver bullet. Everything in this world will have some sort of problem eventually. We live in an imperfect world and there is no nirvana. ✌️
@@StormWaterDrainageSolutions you have no idea what you are speaking about. Nothing you said is supported by concrete studies. I stopped reading after you said “at least it won’t crack”. Shows you have an agenda, rather than wanting to learn and be educated and informed contractor. Flex pipe will move with the slightest up-heave, where as rigid pipe will flex with the movement. You have no idea the forces required to break/crack rigid pipe. Please tell us all at which PSI does rigid pipe break? You spew French drain man’s same non-sense. All for $. What, is he selling it to you at a discount so long as you sing and dance his song?
I’ll tell you what. I’ll do a live pod cast with you. I’ll bring an engineer on the show, and you bring yours. You bring your information, backed sources, and I’ll bring mine. We can have a full on discussion backed by engineers, studies, with sources. Name the date and time.
@@brooksbelanger8799 I’ve seen your work on IG, decent pipe work but you should stop using sanitary tees on their side for laterals and make sure your pipe bell ends are facing in the opposite direction of the flow of water. Now I understand why you’re hating on HDPE pipe and materials. You install PVC systems so I guess you have an agenda? If you didn’t even bother to read my full response like you stated then why would I even entertain the idea of doing a podcast with someone like you? And at what PSI does PVC fail? Well that would depend on the Schedule size. Last time I checked we are discussing drainage pipe not pressurized pipe. And besides if I gave you an answer you would just spew some more of your own nonsense. Go blow your smoke somewhere else because these are the last few minutes of my time that you will receive. Good day to you sir.