FURTHER INFO: You can get EXP +135% by using an Exalithium Crystal to craft the Faize piece with Nina. You only need a total of 60% for Accessory Factor as it caps there. My build was based on early info. I feel my showing at the end is inadequate because 1) the party was still geared up, and 2) Laeticia had 0 DEF/GUTS because Determined Princess was enabled. So here are their stats with NO equipment at all at LV 255: Raymond HP - 68288 ATK - 5572 INT - 3175 DEF - 6429 GUTS - 5143 Laeticia HP - 58833 ATK - 5143 INT - 5159 DEF - 5143 GUTS - 4572 Albaird HP - 52950 ATK - 4714 INT - 6000 DEF - 3857 GUTS - 5143 Nina HP - 42708 ATK - 1587 INT - 8000 DEF - 2476 GUTS - 9000 Elena HP - 63456 ATK - 5143 INT - 5143 DEF - 5143 GUTS - 4143 Midas HP - 68288 ATK - 3556 INT - 6429 DEF - 5857 GUTS - 6429 Malkya HP - 72911 ATK - 4286 INT - 5572 DEF - 7714 GUTS - 5143 Marielle HP - 49378 ATK - 5143 INT - 4286 DEF - 3857 GUTS - 3286 Theo HP - 63456 ATK - 6000 INT - 4266 DEF - 6429 GUTS - 4572
So your suggestion would be to have both Nina and Letty performing crafting to the the exp bonus and accessory factor enchant? Or just Nina doing everything? Thank you!
First of all, thank you for this video, especially the part where you compare how the EXP gained changes when the accessories/armor are put on one by one. This makes things very clear! I believe what Kaijin said about a cap of 60% for the "+XX% to Accessory factor effect“ factors on the armor was right. I did some simple math and figured out how the factors work. Here's my explanation: In this video, the raw EXP earned for killing a specific enemy is 12029. With the first Power Ring equipped this value becomes 25678. With both the first and the second Power Rings equipped the EXP is 50429. With both the rings and and the armor the EXP is 2165937. Finally with all the equipment above and the "Determined Princess" passive skill it becomes 4331874. The first ring has four factors which are "Gain 110 / 115 / 125 / 135% EXP from battle" respectively. (I put them in increasing order for clarity) The second ring has four factors which are "Gain 110 / 115 / 115 / 135% EXP from battle" respectively. The armor has four factors which are "+22 / 30 / 38 / 38% to Accessory factor effect“ respectively. And the "Determined Princess" passive skill grants 200% EXP to all party members. Here's what I think the EXP formula is: Firstly, the factors on accessories are MULTIPLIED. So when the first Power Ring is equipped, the EXP changes from 12029 to 12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 = 25678.15... and is rounded to 25678. When both the Power Rings are equipped, the EXP is 12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.35 = 50429.65... and is rounded to 50429. Secondly, the factors on the armor are first ADDED, then MULTIPLIED to the accessory factors. That is, we add 22%, 30%, 38%, 38% together and get a sum of 128%. However, as Kaijin said, there is a cap of 60%. So 128% is effectively 60%. Then all factors on the accessories are multiplied by (100% + 60%) or 1.6. So for example 110% is now 110% x 1.6 = 176%. The the EXP should be calculated as: 12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.35 x (1.6 to the power of 8) = 2165937.04... and is rounded to 2165937. Lastly, a factor of 200% by the "Determined Princess" passive skill are multiplied to the above result, so the EXP should be calculated as: 12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.35 x (1.6 to the power of 8) x 2 = 4331874.07... and is rounded to 4331874.
@@KingX wait why would you add 4 accessory factors to the armor if it maxes out at 60%? would it not be more benficial to add 2 Accessory factors to reach 60% and add 2 more EXP gains on the armor? EDIT Ok I just did 4 test and here are the results, these are all agasint Metal Scumbags in the Highroads: Test 1 Armor - +38% & +22% Accessory Factor Effect Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 5922866 EXP Test 2: Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 5922866 EXP Test 3: Armor - +38%x & +22%x Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 6811296 EXP Test 4: Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle & +22% Armor Factor Effect Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 8309782 EXP So it looks like you can put whatever other skills on your armor once you hit the 60%.
I beleive the +XX to accessory factor effect (and although not relevant for this video, also the +XX to weapon factor effect) have a cap of 60%. This was discovered by a combination of testers on the forum and published by another SO6 content creator Primalliquid. I have not tested this myself, and 4 factors won't hurt anything but it could reduce the effort involved just a small amount. Also means you could just use your end game armor for each character, rather than just making it for purpose of exp. IE put 2 accessory factor effects and 2 weapon factor effects (totaling 60%, two 30's, or anything else that's over 60) on their final armor, and then just using that for everything: EXP, FOL, general combat, etc. Thanks to all you SO6 content creators for the effort, its not easy as it usually is to get information on this game.
Yes, the issue is in the time you spend realistically getting perfect versions of the traits, you'd be long done with the whole levelling process so it's just not worth the effort for levelling. For the accessory trait though, that can be useful for other things so it's something to consider. I suppose it depends how much you feel the need to do No Damage runs VS 6-wing Ethereal Queen on Chaos difficulty, etc.
I am wondering the same thing, could you put on a 38% and 22% Accessoriy Factor for the 60% then use 2 other Factors such as 2 EXP factors on the armor? EDIT Ok I just did 4 test and here are the results, these are all agasint Metal Scumbags in the Highroads: Test 1 Armor - +38% & +22% Accessory Factor Effect Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 5922866 EXP Test 2: Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 5922866 EXP Test 3: Armor - +38%x & +22%x Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 6811296 EXP Test 4: Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle & +22% Armor Factor Effect Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4 Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4 Result - 8309782 EXP So it looks like you can put whatever other skills on your armor once you hit the 60%.
Good to know I only need to do the crafting once, and then just give it to each of the 4 characters I prefer to play as. Now the struggle to make weapons and armor so i dont get one shot. Thats the hard part since you are using 5 star items that cost so much.
I didn't know at the time but there are some things you can create which guarantee certain traits. You can get EXP +135% by using an Exalithium Crystal to craft the Faize piece with Nina. The only question is how long it takes you to craft those Faize pieces. I will add this to the pinned comment and direct to that in the timestamp. That said, it is possible to get any factor with Iron though you're more likely to get higher percentages with higher grade material. What I used was farmed for with Iron and Gold and that's all down to RNG.
I actually went with Nina. While Letty does start with the Nimble Fingers skill, I find saving a bit of Fol makes using iron even cheaper, so once you've maxed Nina's Crafting, you can unlock Nimble Fingers pretty quickly. While it took me probably 30+ tries for 1 with Letty, it was more like 35 (and at less combined Fol too) with Nina. After that, it was still 30-35 with Letty and 20-25 with Nina. Spoiler: Getting your next teammate and their teamwork skill helps improve your odds too.
The one using them, but that doesn't matter because you should be done VERY quickly and switch to the next character. You can have everyone finished in 8 runs... or maybe a bit extra if your starting levels are really low?
Another question why in the video does it say craft with laeticia but in the comment it says craft with Nina? When I do craft and get exp it always comes with an extra skill so how do I get around that? I'm confused on this like what accessories and materials do I need for the exp and 48%factors not one video tells me what materials give you these just do the whole list and hope for the best 🤨
FURTHER INFO:
You can get EXP +135% by using an Exalithium Crystal to craft the Faize piece with Nina.
You only need a total of 60% for Accessory Factor as it caps there. My build was based on early info.
I feel my showing at the end is inadequate because 1) the party was still geared up, and 2) Laeticia had 0 DEF/GUTS because Determined Princess was enabled. So here are their stats with NO equipment at all at LV 255:
Raymond
HP - 68288
ATK - 5572
INT - 3175
DEF - 6429
GUTS - 5143
Laeticia
HP - 58833
ATK - 5143
INT - 5159
DEF - 5143
GUTS - 4572
Albaird
HP - 52950
ATK - 4714
INT - 6000
DEF - 3857
GUTS - 5143
Nina
HP - 42708
ATK - 1587
INT - 8000
DEF - 2476
GUTS - 9000
Elena
HP - 63456
ATK - 5143
INT - 5143
DEF - 5143
GUTS - 4143
Midas
HP - 68288
ATK - 3556
INT - 6429
DEF - 5857
GUTS - 6429
Malkya
HP - 72911
ATK - 4286
INT - 5572
DEF - 7714
GUTS - 5143
Marielle
HP - 49378
ATK - 5143
INT - 4286
DEF - 3857
GUTS - 3286
Theo
HP - 63456
ATK - 6000
INT - 4266
DEF - 6429
GUTS - 4572
So your suggestion would be to have both Nina and Letty performing crafting to the the exp bonus and accessory factor enchant? Or just Nina doing everything? Thank you!
@@rawrrawrface Nina if you're going for the Faize piece. I don't THINK I remember Laeticia ever getting it?
@@KingX they can both get it. Nina *might* do it more reliably.
First of all, thank you for this video, especially the part where you compare how the EXP gained changes when the accessories/armor are put on one by one. This makes things very clear!
I believe what Kaijin said about a cap of 60% for the "+XX% to Accessory factor effect“ factors on the armor was right. I did some simple math and figured out how the factors work. Here's my explanation:
In this video, the raw EXP earned for killing a specific enemy is 12029.
With the first Power Ring equipped this value becomes 25678.
With both the first and the second Power Rings equipped the EXP is 50429.
With both the rings and and the armor the EXP is 2165937.
Finally with all the equipment above and the "Determined Princess" passive skill it becomes 4331874.
The first ring has four factors which are "Gain 110 / 115 / 125 / 135% EXP from battle" respectively. (I put them in increasing order for clarity)
The second ring has four factors which are "Gain 110 / 115 / 115 / 135% EXP from battle" respectively.
The armor has four factors which are "+22 / 30 / 38 / 38% to Accessory factor effect“ respectively.
And the "Determined Princess" passive skill grants 200% EXP to all party members.
Here's what I think the EXP formula is:
Firstly, the factors on accessories are MULTIPLIED.
So when the first Power Ring is equipped, the EXP changes from 12029 to 12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 = 25678.15... and is rounded to 25678.
When both the Power Rings are equipped, the EXP is 12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.35 = 50429.65... and is rounded to 50429.
Secondly, the factors on the armor are first ADDED, then MULTIPLIED to the accessory factors.
That is, we add 22%, 30%, 38%, 38% together and get a sum of 128%. However, as Kaijin said, there is a cap of 60%. So 128% is effectively 60%. Then all factors on the accessories are multiplied by (100% + 60%) or 1.6. So for example 110% is now 110% x 1.6 = 176%. The the EXP should be calculated as:
12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.35 x (1.6 to the power of 8) = 2165937.04... and is rounded to 2165937.
Lastly, a factor of 200% by the "Determined Princess" passive skill are multiplied to the above result, so the EXP should be calculated as:
12029 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.25 x 1.35 x 1.10 x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.35 x (1.6 to the power of 8) x 2 = 4331874.07... and is rounded to 4331874.
Nice analysis there!
so you're saying that we shouls stop at "+60% to Accessory factor effect“ factors , no need to go further ?
@@lesangpro Yes.
@@KingX alright , got it ! Thank you , @King-X and @Ocean Breeze for giving us the pointer .
@@KingX wait why would you add 4 accessory factors to the armor if it maxes out at 60%? would it not be more benficial to add 2 Accessory factors to reach 60% and add 2 more EXP gains on the armor?
EDIT
Ok I just did 4 test and here are the results, these are all agasint Metal Scumbags in the Highroads:
Test 1
Armor - +38% & +22% Accessory Factor Effect
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 5922866 EXP
Test 2:
Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 5922866 EXP
Test 3:
Armor - +38%x & +22%x Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 6811296 EXP
Test 4:
Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle & +22% Armor Factor Effect
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 8309782 EXP
So it looks like you can put whatever other skills on your armor once you hit the 60%.
I beleive the +XX to accessory factor effect (and although not relevant for this video, also the +XX to weapon factor effect) have a cap of 60%. This was discovered by a combination of testers on the forum and published by another SO6 content creator Primalliquid. I have not tested this myself, and 4 factors won't hurt anything but it could reduce the effort involved just a small amount. Also means you could just use your end game armor for each character, rather than just making it for purpose of exp. IE put 2 accessory factor effects and 2 weapon factor effects (totaling 60%, two 30's, or anything else that's over 60) on their final armor, and then just using that for everything: EXP, FOL, general combat, etc.
Thanks to all you SO6 content creators for the effort, its not easy as it usually is to get information on this game.
Yes, the issue is in the time you spend realistically getting perfect versions of the traits, you'd be long done with the whole levelling process so it's just not worth the effort for levelling. For the accessory trait though, that can be useful for other things so it's something to consider. I suppose it depends how much you feel the need to do No Damage runs VS 6-wing Ethereal Queen on Chaos difficulty, etc.
I am wondering the same thing, could you put on a 38% and 22% Accessoriy Factor for the 60% then use 2 other Factors such as 2 EXP factors on the armor?
EDIT
Ok I just did 4 test and here are the results, these are all agasint Metal Scumbags in the Highroads:
Test 1
Armor - +38% & +22% Accessory Factor Effect
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 5922866 EXP
Test 2:
Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 5922866 EXP
Test 3:
Armor - +38%x & +22%x Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 6811296 EXP
Test 4:
Armor - +38%x2 & +22%x2 Accessory Factor Effect & Gain +115% EXP from battle & +22% Armor Factor Effect
Accessory 1 - +125% From Battle x4
Accessory 2 - +120% from battle x4
Result - 8309782 EXP
So it looks like you can put whatever other skills on your armor once you hit the 60%.
Good to know I only need to do the crafting once, and then just give it to each of the 4 characters I prefer to play as. Now the struggle to make weapons and armor so i dont get one shot. Thats the hard part since you are using 5 star items that cost so much.
Thanks for this! I’m now level 255 easy peasy
Welcome to the club!
laeticia is lvl 10 in crafting, I used 50+ irons and 30+ silks, I didn't get a single %+exp, my blood is boiling
I didn't know at the time but there are some things you can create which guarantee certain traits. You can get EXP +135% by using an Exalithium Crystal to craft the Faize piece with Nina. The only question is how long it takes you to craft those Faize pieces.
I will add this to the pinned comment and direct to that in the timestamp.
That said, it is possible to get any factor with Iron though you're more likely to get higher percentages with higher grade material. What I used was farmed for with Iron and Gold and that's all down to RNG.
My max %+exp from crafting with iron, silver, and gold done by Letty was 110%-125% 😔. Where do i ever find exalithium crystal to craft Faize?
@@yw5613 Get drops: th-cam.com/video/Y3NslcjYmXU/w-d-xo.html
Alchemize it: th-cam.com/video/FRjNt-TXhvk/w-d-xo.html
Or buy it from Santa postgame.
I actually went with Nina.
While Letty does start with the Nimble Fingers skill, I find saving a bit of Fol makes using iron even cheaper, so once you've maxed Nina's Crafting, you can unlock Nimble Fingers pretty quickly.
While it took me probably 30+ tries for 1 with Letty, it was more like 35 (and at less combined Fol too) with Nina.
After that, it was still 30-35 with Letty and 20-25 with Nina.
Spoiler:
Getting your next teammate and their teamwork skill helps improve your odds too.
I keep getting armor factor and weapon factor but not accessory factor is there something I am missing?
No, I don't think there's anything that guarantees the accessory factor.
@@KingX ok I will keep trying thanks for the video thou will be very helpful when rng starts being nice lol 😆
Is the exp on the accessories share with the 4 starters or only the one using them? Because making 2 each will probably drive me insane
The one using them, but that doesn't matter because you should be done VERY quickly and switch to the next character. You can have everyone finished in 8 runs... or maybe a bit extra if your starting levels are really low?
Another question why in the video does it say craft with laeticia but in the comment it says craft with Nina? When I do craft and get exp it always comes with an extra skill so how do I get around that? I'm confused on this like what accessories and materials do I need for the exp and 48%factors not one video tells me what materials give you these just do the whole list and hope for the best 🤨
@Scarhj The comment is talking about a specific piece.
Synthesis. You will need to master synthesis with the character you want the item for.