These were both really nice trumpets, but I slightly preferred the Commercial. With its light bronze bell and nickel-silver slides, it could play warm and soft or really carry powerfully… both great horns though.
Right now, I'd probably use my Bach Stradivarius Sterling Silver Plus 37 bell, reverse leadpipe Bb trumpet. If I had to take a second horn, I'd take my Edwards Gen II. Between those two trumpets, I think I would be happy and satisfied. Great question. I sidestepped it earlier... But it's still a great question. :)
@@JonathanMilam1 thank you very mutch for your response. Im a trumpet jazz player from Portugal, i want to buy a new bach trumpet. In this moment i play with Bach vbs 1S. I can only buy one at the moment, which one do you recommend for my case? I have a friend with a Bach artisan but I don't know anyone with the commercial. Of course I'm versatile, I don't just play jazz,
Actually, all the Strads, in my opinion, play similarly. I've read that Vincent Bach intended that; the bells are all smaller actually (compared to Schilke, or Edwards, whose bells can vary greatly in size). A good Strad with a 37 bell can do anything; a 43 is slightly smaller. I like the 43* frankly; it's a lightweight brass bell and I think lighweight brass bells can have their tone altered easily with mouthpieces. Use a V mouthpiece and sound dark and smoky, use a shallow mouthpiece and you can play lead... I know people in Orchestral groups that like the 43 bell too; it's very easy to control and play as you like. Good luck with your choices - and keep in touch! :)
Kenneth, I know this sounds weird but I rarely know exactly which sleeve I'm using. I'm not as sensitive to sleeves and gap as some people and it makes my life much easier. :) The only time I really pay attention is if I have a vintage horn, like an old King, that had a different type backbore - then I have to work to find a match. Otherwise, it's usually a 4.5, 5 or 5.5 - kind of middle of the road. I'm playing mostly Strads now with GR mouthpieces and no sleeves. My TA/TF, which is a great smaller trumpet/flugel piece - I usually use a 4.5 or 5. Hope this helps, Kenneth. Thanks for listening - and it IS a good question.
THE reason I never had a Vincent Bach horn; too many variations, how do you make up your mind which bell, leadpipe...? Besides, I have a Puje Classic (#12) and a 1966 King; just call me "Silver Flair Freddy". 😃
Frederick!! I have an 'American Belle' Puje, and it's one of my very favorite horns. So easy to play, tucked in close, and I really like the whole horn tuning slide. Great horns. Can you believe I've never had a Silver Flair? I've tried, but it hasn't happened yet. :)
If you have to choose only one trumpet, witch do you will choose?
These were both really nice trumpets, but I slightly preferred the Commercial. With its light bronze bell and nickel-silver slides, it could play warm and soft or really carry powerfully… both great horns though.
Right now, I'd probably use my Bach Stradivarius Sterling Silver Plus 37 bell, reverse leadpipe Bb trumpet. If I had to take a second horn, I'd take my Edwards Gen II. Between those two trumpets, I think I would be happy and satisfied. Great question. I sidestepped it earlier... But it's still a great question. :)
@@JonathanMilam1 thank you very mutch for your response. Im a trumpet jazz player from Portugal, i want to buy a new bach trumpet. In this moment i play with Bach vbs 1S. I can only buy one at the moment, which one do you recommend for my case? I have a friend with a Bach artisan but I don't know anyone with the commercial.
Of course I'm versatile, I don't just play jazz,
Actually, all the Strads, in my opinion, play similarly. I've read that Vincent Bach intended that; the bells are all smaller actually (compared to Schilke, or Edwards, whose bells can vary greatly in size). A good Strad with a 37 bell can do anything; a 43 is slightly smaller. I like the 43* frankly; it's a lightweight brass bell and I think lighweight brass bells can have their tone altered easily with mouthpieces. Use a V mouthpiece and sound dark and smoky, use a shallow mouthpiece and you can play lead... I know people in Orchestral groups that like the 43 bell too; it's very easy to control and play as you like. Good luck with your choices - and keep in touch! :)
What reeve sleeve are you using?
Thanks for the videos and comparison, it is really helpful.
Kenneth, I know this sounds weird but I rarely know exactly which sleeve I'm using. I'm not as sensitive to sleeves and gap as some people and it makes my life much easier. :) The only time I really pay attention is if I have a vintage horn, like an old King, that had a different type backbore - then I have to work to find a match. Otherwise, it's usually a 4.5, 5 or 5.5 - kind of middle of the road. I'm playing mostly Strads now with GR mouthpieces and no sleeves. My TA/TF, which is a great smaller trumpet/flugel piece - I usually use a 4.5 or 5. Hope this helps, Kenneth. Thanks for listening - and it IS a good question.
THE reason I never had a Vincent Bach horn; too many variations, how do you make up your mind which bell, leadpipe...? Besides, I have a Puje Classic (#12) and a 1966 King; just call me "Silver Flair Freddy". 😃
Frederick!! I have an 'American Belle' Puje, and it's one of my very favorite horns. So easy to play, tucked in close, and I really like the whole horn tuning slide. Great horns. Can you believe I've never had a Silver Flair? I've tried, but it hasn't happened yet. :)