I have a 2022 450RL and I use it as my Mx bike and street stunt bike. Non stop 12 o clock wheelies, melting tires off with rolling burn outs, Mx tracks, single tracks you name it. It is stock and I’ve done no modifications to the engine, ecu or exhaust.
I have a 2019 CRF450L and it was really bad for single track before I got the AIM ECU. It would flame out any time when rolling off the throttle, in a really bad way, off road and on the street. It was seriously pretty dangerous whenever I first got the bike. Now it's great. I use my CRF450L as a daily commuter and I take it out on tight, technical single track. With my ECU, I got the switch to go from full power mode to enduro mode and it truly does make a big difference. I forgot to switch to enduro mode last time I took the bike out to the woods and I was stalling all over the place. Then I remembered to switch to enduro mode and didn't stall again. Also, I owned a CRF250RX at the same time and I'd ride them both back to back on the same trails. I no longer have the 250RX and I some times miss it.
I mainly ride double track with this so nothing too extreme and I haven't noticed flame outs to the extreme of most people. I'm excited to try the aim ECU, got a nice FMF to pair it with. My 250rx however I love it, it's great for the type of racing I do and makes for a good trail bike. I'll probably do a review on it once I hit the 10-15 hour mark.
This is a necessary video. I almost picked up the 2024 CRF 450RL recently. It was between that and the KTM 500 EXC-F. I went with the KTM because I have never owned one, and have been wanting to try one out. Simple as that. I have owned a few Honda's over the years and they were all great bikes. You have a similar opinion to myself about people carrying on about the way these dual sports are tuned from the factory. Bunch of it out there for the KTM brands as well.There is truth to the fact that the bikes are detuned to meet regulations. However, they are not unrideable. A competent rider can get it done stock, and if you want to tune it the support is there. Pick a bike and roll my friends.
Exactly, a pipe and a tune made this bike ride way different but that doesn't mean these bikes aren't amazing out of the box. Hopefully you ktm is treating you well as I was on the fence as well but went with the CRF.
Of course there's some vibration, knobbies + big thumper your gonna feel them. But compared to other bike single dual sports it's probably the smoothest.
So glad I got rid of my 2022 CRF450RL. It was so heavy and sucked so bad off road. I replaced it with a 2024 Gas Gas ES500 like night and day difference so light pulls hard no flame-outs no twitchy throttle.
The difference is the ECU cannot be flashed on these bikes for some reason so you're stuck with only aftermarket replacement options. You can always go the JD jet or Power commander route but it doesn't fix the core issues.
I bought the same bikeHonda 2022 F.R.L 450 Put on a vor text e c u rosharima pipe O ring gold Low mirrors different tires. $4000 of work done to this brand new bike. And my suspension was the stiffest suspension.I have ever rode on any bike in my life.And I weigh two hundred and ten pounds I had the suspension reworked nine hundred and fifty dollars And the suspension is still exactly the same stiffer than a covered wagon other than that, the bike is fine
I've pretty much done everything you have done except the suspension at this point and I agree the suspension is pretty stiff in the front but I find it very manageable. My 250 on the other hand not at all.
With the REALLY mild camshaft on the L vs the R bikes I don't expect them to ever need adjusted. There is Slaugo here on TH-cam that has over 30k miles on his and never needed to replace parts during the top end tear down. Hasn't needed to shim the valves either and he's not nice to the bike at all.
I really kind of wish I would have gone with a CRF RL over the KLR, I thought I would be riding on the road more than I do, I really dislike riding on the road..... But... IDK... the 6 gallon tank is nice, the 400 lbs and 40 hp isn't great.
The klr is an awesome for dirt roads and touring. There's definitely some headaches you have to get over with the 450 vs the klr, like uncomfortable seat, small gas tank, wind on the highway.
@@The450Kid Yeah, I have the Risers on my wind screen on the highest setting which really gives it a Rally look, and I have the Eagle Mike Fork Brace. I was surprised that the gearing is such that when you are in the power you go into 5th gear at about 70mph. Its pretty stable on the interstate but here the 80mph speed limit is just at the limit of my feeling comfortable, it does it fine with limited shakes but the vibes aren't great. The mirrors are rock solid so its very high freq vibes but it will make your hands numb even when you are holding the handlebars very lightly. It cruises fairly comfortable at 70 mph and it will pass at 80-90 fine. With enough weight on it (IE my hard paniers with Tools and Tire spoons etc etc a decent gust of wind on the interstate will make you poop your pants. The Adv LED lights on the Gen 3 are great for watching the ditches for deer and whatnot, but they would be a whole lot better if they were adjustable. I used to ride dirtbike with light mounted to my helmet and that is actually really nice because the light is where you look. When I first got it, I would ride 50 - 55 on gravel roads and felt fine but one time I hit a patch of soft stuff and that weight on the front tire can be very bad, I luckily had just enough power to hammer the throttle and get just enough weight off the front tire that I didn't go down, but just barely. And off road when you hit deep sand or base course it just sinks. I haven't been able to get over 40 on the gravel mostly because at 35 you are just right in the power band that you can hit the throttle and get out of a mess but after that I slow down. I am just new to such a heavy bike. Watching videos of pro level riders just throwing around a KLR is very deceptive, it takes a lot of practice to get there. One thing I am really struggling with is what tires to go with. I already don't like the vibes at speed. but I really want better traction off road. One thing I didn't complain about or think was any big deal with the ABS, because it does lock up for a second, but then I went on some single track with my 13 y/o on his dirtbike and I couldn't keep up because I couldn't use the rear brake the way I do on my dirtbike to start a slide around a corner. Anyway.. I like the KLR a lot, but its going to take a lot of practice to get good on it.
I've had it cut off maybe twice when I blipped the throttle on downshifts. Any situation I've ever stalled it other than that could have been avoided with more skill and clutch work.
@@The450Kid ok cool! Thanks! I wanted that bike so much and avoided it bc of all the reviews saying you have to spend 1000+ on just to make it run without it shutting off on the trails. You are the first one ive seen saying its not the bike, its the riders! Love that you can be humble enough to admit it and show that it is a good bike!
@@memorris2 absolutely man, I have an ECU at home and I'll be doing a review on it to see how big of a difference it actually makes but yes you absolutely do not need to spend thousands to go out and enjoy this bike. A good set of tires and seat time will go farther. It definitely takes a lot of work to go slow but once you get going about 7-8 miles an hour it's cake.
@@The450Kid thank you again! I ride a 2017 dr650 and i am a fanboy of that bike no matter what, but when the crf450l came out i thought it would be so sick and then saw all the hate about it and didnt want to spend the money on a questionable brand new bike.
@@memorris2 having rode a dr650 they are awesome bikes but you will find the Honda much more capable and extremely reliable. There are guys in the 450 group on Facebook with 40 and 50k miles no issues.
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I have a 2022 450RL and I use it as my Mx bike and street stunt bike. Non stop 12 o clock wheelies, melting tires off with rolling burn outs, Mx tracks, single tracks you name it. It is stock and I’ve done no modifications to the engine, ecu or exhaust.
I use mine for everything as well (except mx) rode it for 4k miles bone stock and couldn't have been happier.
I have a 2019 CRF450L and it was really bad for single track before I got the AIM ECU. It would flame out any time when rolling off the throttle, in a really bad way, off road and on the street. It was seriously pretty dangerous whenever I first got the bike. Now it's great. I use my CRF450L as a daily commuter and I take it out on tight, technical single track. With my ECU, I got the switch to go from full power mode to enduro mode and it truly does make a big difference. I forgot to switch to enduro mode last time I took the bike out to the woods and I was stalling all over the place. Then I remembered to switch to enduro mode and didn't stall again. Also, I owned a CRF250RX at the same time and I'd ride them both back to back on the same trails. I no longer have the 250RX and I some times miss it.
I mainly ride double track with this so nothing too extreme and I haven't noticed flame outs to the extreme of most people. I'm excited to try the aim ECU, got a nice FMF to pair it with. My 250rx however I love it, it's great for the type of racing I do and makes for a good trail bike. I'll probably do a review on it once I hit the 10-15 hour mark.
Just got a 2024 and it’s been awesome.
Good to hear, these bikes are a great value for how capable and reliable they are.
ty for sharing review, you did a good job!
Thanks man, doing a review on the aim ECU soon. Drop back by and check it out 🫶
This is a necessary video. I almost picked up the 2024 CRF 450RL recently. It was between that and the KTM 500 EXC-F. I went with the KTM because I have never owned one, and have been wanting to try one out. Simple as that. I have owned a few Honda's over the years and they were all great bikes. You have a similar opinion to myself about people carrying on about the way these dual sports are tuned from the factory. Bunch of it out there for the KTM brands as well.There is truth to the fact that the bikes are detuned to meet regulations. However, they are not unrideable. A competent rider can get it done stock, and if you want to tune it the support is there. Pick a bike and roll my friends.
Exactly, a pipe and a tune made this bike ride way different but that doesn't mean these bikes aren't amazing out of the box. Hopefully you ktm is treating you well as I was on the fence as well but went with the CRF.
I saw a user on a forum say the vibration was so bad on the 450 that he sold it. Have you noticed really bad vibration?
Of course there's some vibration, knobbies + big thumper your gonna feel them. But compared to other bike single dual sports it's probably the smoothest.
So glad I got rid of my 2022 CRF450RL. It was so heavy and sucked so bad off road. I replaced it with a 2024 Gas Gas ES500 like night and day difference so light pulls hard no flame-outs no twitchy throttle.
Those Austrian 500s are definitely sick. Not quite as good on the road but definitely better off road.
I have 22 CRF 450rl and after $850 for ECU $$1000 for exhaust and $420 for a real seat . Then you have a awesome bike
Agreed. Not that an ECU and exhaust is necessary but it makes it much more fun to ride. The seat however is absolutely a necessity.
Why does it cost $1000 for an ECU for this bike, when it only cost $160 to flash the ECU on my 300l? What’s the difference?
The difference is the ECU cannot be flashed on these bikes for some reason so you're stuck with only aftermarket replacement options. You can always go the JD jet or Power commander route but it doesn't fix the core issues.
I bought the same bikeHonda 2022 F.R.L 450 Put on a vor text e c u rosharima pipe O ring gold Low mirrors different tires. $4000 of work done to this brand new bike. And my suspension was the stiffest suspension.I have ever rode on any bike in my life.And I weigh two hundred and ten pounds I had the suspension reworked nine hundred and fifty dollars And the suspension is still exactly the same stiffer than a covered wagon other than that, the bike is fine
I've pretty much done everything you have done except the suspension at this point and I agree the suspension is pretty stiff in the front but I find it very manageable. My 250 on the other hand not at all.
did you have the valves checked at 1800 miles?
I had them checked at the break in service and at 1800 miles. No adjustments needed at all. I'll check them again when it has trouble starting.
With the REALLY mild camshaft on the L vs the R bikes I don't expect them to ever need adjusted. There is Slaugo here on TH-cam that has over 30k miles on his and never needed to replace parts during the top end tear down. Hasn't needed to shim the valves either and he's not nice to the bike at all.
@@The450Kid I'm feeling the same way, don't fix what ain't broke
I really kind of wish I would have gone with a CRF RL over the KLR, I thought I would be riding on the road more than I do, I really dislike riding on the road..... But... IDK... the 6 gallon tank is nice, the 400 lbs and 40 hp isn't great.
The klr is an awesome for dirt roads and touring. There's definitely some headaches you have to get over with the 450 vs the klr, like uncomfortable seat, small gas tank, wind on the highway.
@@The450Kid Yeah, I have the Risers on my wind screen on the highest setting which really gives it a Rally look, and I have the Eagle Mike Fork Brace. I was surprised that the gearing is such that when you are in the power you go into 5th gear at about 70mph. Its pretty stable on the interstate but here the 80mph speed limit is just at the limit of my feeling comfortable, it does it fine with limited shakes but the vibes aren't great. The mirrors are rock solid so its very high freq vibes but it will make your hands numb even when you are holding the handlebars very lightly. It cruises fairly comfortable at 70 mph and it will pass at 80-90 fine. With enough weight on it (IE my hard paniers with Tools and Tire spoons etc etc a decent gust of wind on the interstate will make you poop your pants. The Adv LED lights on the Gen 3 are great for watching the ditches for deer and whatnot, but they would be a whole lot better if they were adjustable. I used to ride dirtbike with light mounted to my helmet and that is actually really nice because the light is where you look. When I first got it, I would ride 50 - 55 on gravel roads and felt fine but one time I hit a patch of soft stuff and that weight on the front tire can be very bad, I luckily had just enough power to hammer the throttle and get just enough weight off the front tire that I didn't go down, but just barely. And off road when you hit deep sand or base course it just sinks. I haven't been able to get over 40 on the gravel mostly because at 35 you are just right in the power band that you can hit the throttle and get out of a mess but after that I slow down. I am just new to such a heavy bike. Watching videos of pro level riders just throwing around a KLR is very deceptive, it takes a lot of practice to get there. One thing I am really struggling with is what tires to go with. I already don't like the vibes at speed. but I really want better traction off road. One thing I didn't complain about or think was any big deal with the ABS, because it does lock up for a second, but then I went on some single track with my 13 y/o on his dirtbike and I couldn't keep up because I couldn't use the rear brake the way I do on my dirtbike to start a slide around a corner. Anyway.. I like the KLR a lot, but its going to take a lot of practice to get good on it.
No problems with shutting off like all the other 450l's ive seen?
I've had it cut off maybe twice when I blipped the throttle on downshifts. Any situation I've ever stalled it other than that could have been avoided with more skill and clutch work.
@@The450Kid ok cool! Thanks! I wanted that bike so much and avoided it bc of all the reviews saying you have to spend 1000+ on just to make it run without it shutting off on the trails. You are the first one ive seen saying its not the bike, its the riders! Love that you can be humble enough to admit it and show that it is a good bike!
@@memorris2 absolutely man, I have an ECU at home and I'll be doing a review on it to see how big of a difference it actually makes but yes you absolutely do not need to spend thousands to go out and enjoy this bike. A good set of tires and seat time will go farther. It definitely takes a lot of work to go slow but once you get going about 7-8 miles an hour it's cake.
@@The450Kid thank you again! I ride a 2017 dr650 and i am a fanboy of that bike no matter what, but when the crf450l came out i thought it would be so sick and then saw all the hate about it and didnt want to spend the money on a questionable brand new bike.
@@memorris2 having rode a dr650 they are awesome bikes but you will find the Honda much more capable and extremely reliable. There are guys in the 450 group on Facebook with 40 and 50k miles no issues.