Finalmente "molto allegro" e não andante no primeiro movimento. Que diferença!!! Só conheço a versão de Alberto Lizzio que também que respeita a indicação do andamento na partitura. Parabéns maestro Franz Brüggen fez toda a diferença!!! Sem sombra de dúvidas uma gravação de referência para a História da Música. BRAVO!!!!
And, what does that mean in English, - don't think i will learn your idiom. And this is obviously too fast. La "differença" that is it's too fast, Ernest Bour's version is better.
Спасибо за видео. Брюгген удивителен и прекрасен. Какая бережная манера дирижирования - словно прикасается к чему-то драгоценному и хрупкому. Благодарю вас за возможность услышать и увидеть это чудо.
Bruggen's no. 1 doctrine is "tempo is the most important". Always a pleasure to listen to his versions of 'too fast' and 'too slow' versions of pieces comparing to our habited versions.
You might be right, but the problem is that "tempos", "articulation", "color" and "rhythm" have a reasonnably precise meaning, not "sensuality" or "depth". It is as if you said that something was missing, but you don't know what. Could it be less perfection in tempos, articulation, color and rythm?
@@jean-francoisbrunet2031one should be open to the trascendental condition that there might well be a non measurable element in music. That is the sense of Erleben (lively experience) as opposed to Verstanden (intellectual understanding).
@@massawax There is no way that anything is not measurable, ultimately. In this case it is all sound waves and neurons receiving them (many sonds waves and many neurons, admittedly). One can at least try to go beyond excessively subjective statements. What do you think of Ton Koopman's version? (th-cam.com/video/qCBzA-bPhLs/w-d-xo.html). I slightly prefer it in the same style, and I think it is due to more "bounciness", for example in the Menuet. Which probably comes from more dynamic range in each phrase.
Schrecklich. Bei keinem Komponisten wird so oft geirrt wie bei Mozart, im Namen einer völlig falsch verstandenen historischen Aufführungspraxis. Armer Mozart.
It's nice to hear a conductor who actually listens to Mozart when he asks for "molto allegro".
Fully agree, Sir!!
Do you agree that the Allegro Assai is almost Van Beethoven?
Good old “Here for a good time not a long time” Franz Brüggen
Frans Bruggen? A Genius!
Finalmente "molto allegro" e não andante no primeiro movimento. Que diferença!!! Só conheço a versão de Alberto Lizzio que também que respeita a indicação do andamento na partitura. Parabéns maestro Franz Brüggen fez toda a diferença!!! Sem sombra de dúvidas uma gravação de referência para a História da Música. BRAVO!!!!
And, what does that mean in English, - don't think i will learn your idiom. And this is obviously too fast. La "differença" that is it's too fast, Ernest Bour's version is better.
4:47 one of the most genial variation ever! Mozart out of this solar system.
Don't forget: Mozart is the music, the others are composers.
Bach and Beethoven are Geniuses too@@vitonardi3892
Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
Спасибо за видео. Брюгген удивителен и прекрасен. Какая бережная манера дирижирования - словно прикасается к чему-то драгоценному и хрупкому. Благодарю вас за возможность услышать и увидеть это чудо.
stupenda esecuzione bravissimi complimenti grande frans
Per me, non solo il più grande flautista di sempre (o uno dei più grandi) ma un direttore straordinario delle sinfonie di Mozart. Riposi in Pace.
1.Molto allegro: 0:00 th-cam.com/video/82fH1MkRzD8/w-d-xo.html 2.Andante: 6:58 th-cam.com/video/82fH1MkRzD8/w-d-xo.html?t=418
3.Menuetto. Allegretto - Trio: 13:59 th-cam.com/video/82fH1MkRzD8/w-d-xo.html?t=839 4.Finale. Allegro assai: 17:56 th-cam.com/video/82fH1MkRzD8/w-d-xo.html?t=1076 Development 4th mov: 19:51 th-cam.com/video/82fH1MkRzD8/w-d-xo.html?t=1191
Effin outstanding.
Such a good version.
Très bien !
Une grâce absolue !
Interpretazione stupefacente!!.
Legendary Bruggen!
Messirve papaaa😎😈😳🙌
Miraculous…
3:23 schubert 5 first movement
Yes
Yes, that's true !
bro, that's fast as heck boii. does anyone else know of other interpretations as fast as this (or, god forbid, even faster)?
Bruggen's no. 1 doctrine is "tempo is the most important". Always a pleasure to listen to his versions of 'too fast' and 'too slow' versions of pieces comparing to our habited versions.
Symphony No. 40 - First movement: Molto allegro:
6:45 Bruggen (this video)
6:57 Bruggen (studio recording 1985)
6:39 Harnoncourt (studio recording 1983)
@@dimbelowstars Alberto Lizzio 6:38. th-cam.com/video/-qFVjWUAmrw/w-d-xo.html
idk but I think Ceelibidache has a respectable tempo on this th-cam.com/video/-jWUSvvrNVU/w-d-xo.html
this is not that he is fast --but you are just slow --if you know what i mean...
3:36
I like this comment section.it’S nice:)
interesante sinfonia
Vous voulez dire géniale ?
si
IMHO, Excellent Conducting and Mozart's Spirit, but, impression of "hoarse" sound - what it can be?
Konzertmeister looks like Salieri (Abraham)
That's Marc Destrube! Learned from him before and can promise that he's not as ill-tempered as Salieri...
Tempos, articulation, color and rythm are perfect, bit it lacks some sensuality and depth of interpretation to my ear.
You might be right, but the problem is that "tempos", "articulation", "color" and "rhythm" have a reasonnably precise meaning, not "sensuality" or "depth". It is as if you said that something was missing, but you don't know what. Could it be less perfection in tempos, articulation, color and rythm?
@@jean-francoisbrunet2031one should be open to the trascendental condition that there might well be a non measurable element in music. That is the sense of Erleben (lively experience) as opposed to Verstanden (intellectual understanding).
@@massawax There is no way that anything is not measurable, ultimately. In this case it is all sound waves and neurons receiving them (many sonds waves and many neurons, admittedly). One can at least try to go beyond excessively subjective statements. What do you think of Ton Koopman's version? (th-cam.com/video/qCBzA-bPhLs/w-d-xo.html). I slightly prefer it in the same style, and I think it is due to more "bounciness", for example in the Menuet. Which probably comes from more dynamic range in each phrase.
@@jean-francoisbrunet2031 can you measure a kiss, love? Music is also about that. Furtwangler wrote about rehearsals "one cannot rehearse a kiss".
@@massawax OK. But then it is completely uninteresting to talk about that. ""Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent." (Wittgentstein).
Schrecklich. Bei keinem Komponisten wird so oft geirrt wie bei Mozart, im Namen einer völlig falsch verstandenen historischen Aufführungspraxis. Armer Mozart.
Zu Mozarts Zeiten war schnelles Tempo verboten?