I think one of the themes of the guest list (excluding Margot) is that they're all people who assume they will get their way. Some of them may have struggled early on, but most of them have enjoyed a high level of privilege for years if not decades. As Chef Slowik says, they're takers. Part of the reason they don't fight back after those early futile attempts is that they just aren't used to being in a situation they can't control or escape. Margot is not nearly so complacent.
Adding that in other comments on YT some people argue that the Manager should have lived. Not only was she privileged enough to have enough money to not have student loans, she was actively stealing from her boss that she already mooched off of and about to leave him for a position that didn’t even have a defined role. I think she represents people who seem like they should be working class and know struggle, but in reality she is leeching of the work of others in the same way the finance bros are. She just didn’t flaunt it the same way.
@@zaxia_psg Agreed! She's a bit like Meg Thrombey in "Knives Out" - flirts with working class tropes, but has never actually had to support herself by her own efforts.
Truly love how many people are like “oh no it’s gonna be cannibalism” and this movie totally expected that reaction several times. Just makes it even better in my opinion.
So far you are the only other person I've heard that's talked about how easy it would've been for this movie to simply do canabolism. But because its a great movie it did not.
Oysters and lemon mignonette - Common flavors put together that have to be broken down and deconstructed, foreshadowing what happens to the guests. This is meant to be taken as Chef throwing down the gauntlet. Amuse Bouche - More foreshadowing. Charred lace - crater. Milk snow - ash from the fire. Cucumber and melon - the guests. The Island - Scallop on a rock - Chef presenting himself to the guests. Plants - "in the weeds" Breadless bread plate - straight up snarking at picky customers. But you can also make a case for Lilian's plate having a broken emulsion on purpose as his way of saying SHE'S as useless as a broken emulsion. Memory - Self explanatory The Mess - Pressurized vegetables - literal pun. Bone marrow - blood. Beef jus - sweat. Potato confit - tears. As a whole, it's essentially a dead body with blood pouring out. It even has a hole for the bullet. Man's Folly - Plum vinegar exists because of Umeboshi, whey plays a vital part in making yogurt, sea kelp and lettuce are what keeps the oceans biome from wreaking havoc. But everyone either doesn't know that or forgets, because they don't taste good, aren't as attractive, or can be very difficult to work with in their natural form. It's the same with women, especially when they try to speak out against unfair treatment like what the chef describes. They get called things like "bottom feeders", like crabs. Final scene with Margot/Erin eating the cheeseburger - She didn't care about giving him peace of mind. She just wanted to survive. And Chef acknowledged that. Using his menu as a napkin - She never believed anything he said for one second. She is, in fact, a taker that knows her worth. And that's why she lived.
I've been watching a lot of the menu reviews/reactions, and this one is one of the best ones so far! I appreciate your observations throughout the movies, especially the bit where you note Mr. Liebrantd switching seats with his wife as to not see Margo. Not many people pick up on it from what I've seen, then again, it doesn't make much sense until later on in the movie. Great content!! I wish you luck on your future content as well :}
Enjoyed your reaction! Just subbed. So refreshing to get through a reaction whereby the reactor refrains from swearing about 20 times per film. Good insights into what was happening. Great movie and acting!
Margo knew from the get go that there was something not quite right. Realizing she was not on reservation list. Starting with the big door being closed and locked. When Jeremy was standing on the white tarp. Look at her face, she knew.
Great reaction! I just watched one of the worst takes I can imagine yesterday, this is a great palate cleanser. An amuse bouche of clarity and awareness.
@@mushroomsoda I won't mention, as I already feel bad for the post I left. But they found no humor in the movie, were confused and horrified throughout, and kept insisting that all the guests were good, innocent people who just needed to stab a knife into the throat of Chef, the mad psychopath, to save everyone. Their takes were wrong throughout the reaction... a likely reason is they were chatting through the more revealing dialogue and missed a bunch of important clues. [Although the one's they did catch went over their heads, so maybe that wound't have mattered.]
The young brunette is the actor's assistant, who is quitting to go to another job. They may have had more of a relationship than that. He has a secret apartment his wife doesn't know about. She would know that as his assistant too, though. But he doesn't want her to leave the job or him.
I love the acting in this movie! Superb! Tyler truly made me dislike him, and I love everybody! Spoilers! 2 Faults I find with this movie: 1) This movie suffers the same fate as Raiders of the Lost Ark. The main character is completely irrelevant. She plays no part in changing anything. With or without her, everything that happened would still happen. The only real difference being Elsa's end. 2) A fatal flaw. The Cheeseburger. Earlier in the movie the Chef yells. What did he yell? THERE ARE NO SUBSTITUTIONS AT HAWTHORN! (sp?) The Cheeseburger, even a Well-made one is a substitution to The Menu, and therefore should never have been allowed. Even knowing these things, it still entertained me and I reccomend it!
Well, but you can have a main character who doesn't change anything. Margo is more of a protagonist that the audience lives with and learns through than a protagonist who changes things. I can deal with this substitution: the chef's job is to serve and satisfy the customer. Slowik accomplishes that with the cheeseburger. In any case, it's his place, totally and completely now. If he wants to add a cheeseburger to the menu, he can.
I think one of the themes of the guest list (excluding Margot) is that they're all people who assume they will get their way. Some of them may have struggled early on, but most of them have enjoyed a high level of privilege for years if not decades. As Chef Slowik says, they're takers. Part of the reason they don't fight back after those early futile attempts is that they just aren't used to being in a situation they can't control or escape. Margot is not nearly so complacent.
Adding that in other comments on YT some people argue that the Manager should have lived. Not only was she privileged enough to have enough money to not have student loans, she was actively stealing from her boss that she already mooched off of and about to leave him for a position that didn’t even have a defined role. I think she represents people who seem like they should be working class and know struggle, but in reality she is leeching of the work of others in the same way the finance bros are. She just didn’t flaunt it the same way.
@@zaxia_psg Agreed! She's a bit like Meg Thrombey in "Knives Out" - flirts with working class tropes, but has never actually had to support herself by her own efforts.
Truly love how many people are like “oh no it’s gonna be cannibalism” and this movie totally expected that reaction several times. Just makes it even better in my opinion.
So far you are the only other person I've heard that's talked about how easy it would've been for this movie to simply do canabolism. But because its a great movie it did not.
Oysters and lemon mignonette - Common flavors put together that have to be broken down and deconstructed, foreshadowing what happens to the guests. This is meant to be taken as Chef throwing down the gauntlet.
Amuse Bouche - More foreshadowing. Charred lace - crater. Milk snow - ash from the fire. Cucumber and melon - the guests.
The Island - Scallop on a rock - Chef presenting himself to the guests. Plants - "in the weeds"
Breadless bread plate - straight up snarking at picky customers. But you can also make a case for Lilian's plate having a broken emulsion on purpose as his way of saying SHE'S as useless as a broken emulsion.
Memory - Self explanatory
The Mess - Pressurized vegetables - literal pun. Bone marrow - blood. Beef jus - sweat. Potato confit - tears. As a whole, it's essentially a dead body with blood pouring out. It even has a hole for the bullet.
Man's Folly - Plum vinegar exists because of Umeboshi, whey plays a vital part in making yogurt, sea kelp and lettuce are what keeps the oceans biome from wreaking havoc. But everyone either doesn't know that or forgets, because they don't taste good, aren't as attractive, or can be very difficult to work with in their natural form. It's the same with women, especially when they try to speak out against unfair treatment like what the chef describes. They get called things like "bottom feeders", like crabs.
Final scene with Margot/Erin eating the cheeseburger - She didn't care about giving him peace of mind. She just wanted to survive. And Chef acknowledged that.
Using his menu as a napkin - She never believed anything he said for one second. She is, in fact, a taker that knows her worth. And that's why she lived.
That Tyler’s Bullshit scene was hilarious
I've been watching a lot of the menu reviews/reactions, and this one is one of the best ones so far! I appreciate your observations throughout the movies, especially the bit where you note Mr. Liebrantd switching seats with his wife as to not see Margo. Not many people pick up on it from what I've seen, then again, it doesn't make much sense until later on in the movie.
Great content!! I wish you luck on your future content as well :}
Enjoyed your reaction! Just subbed. So refreshing to get through a reaction whereby the reactor refrains from swearing about 20 times per film.
Good insights into what was happening. Great movie and acting!
I finally understand the foreshadowing with the "charred lace"😅
Margo knew from the get go that there was something not quite right. Realizing she was not on reservation list. Starting with the big door being closed and locked. When Jeremy was standing on the white tarp. Look at her face, she knew.
Great reaction! I just watched one of the worst takes I can imagine yesterday, this is a great palate cleanser. An amuse bouche of clarity and awareness.
Ooooh, who's the bad take? I've seen too many good takes, i need the drama
@@mushroomsoda I won't mention, as I already feel bad for the post I left. But they found no humor in the movie, were confused and horrified throughout, and kept insisting that all the guests were good, innocent people who just needed to stab a knife into the throat of Chef, the mad psychopath, to save everyone. Their takes were wrong throughout the reaction... a likely reason is they were chatting through the more revealing dialogue and missed a bunch of important clues. [Although the one's they did catch went over their heads, so maybe that wound't have mattered.]
The young brunette is the actor's assistant, who is quitting to go to another job. They may have had more of a relationship than that. He has a secret apartment his wife doesn't know about. She would know that as his assistant too, though. But he doesn't want her to leave the job or him.
Why is it that no one gets that the person with the actor is his assistant?
I have no clue because it’s clearly said in dialogue. It’s been driving me crazy lol
Great analysis!
Too much talking. Missing too much dialogue.
Bro what’s with these 10 to 20 min ads in 2024??
I love the acting in this movie! Superb! Tyler truly made me dislike him, and I love everybody! Spoilers!
2 Faults I find with this movie:
1) This movie suffers the same fate as Raiders of the Lost Ark. The main character is completely irrelevant. She plays no part in changing anything. With or without her, everything that happened would still happen. The only real difference being Elsa's end.
2) A fatal flaw. The Cheeseburger. Earlier in the movie the Chef yells. What did he yell? THERE ARE NO SUBSTITUTIONS AT HAWTHORN! (sp?) The Cheeseburger, even a Well-made one is a substitution to The Menu, and therefore should never have been allowed.
Even knowing these things, it still entertained me and I reccomend it!
Well, but you can have a main character who doesn't change anything. Margo is more of a protagonist that the audience lives with and learns through than a protagonist who changes things.
I can deal with this substitution: the chef's job is to serve and satisfy the customer. Slowik accomplishes that with the cheeseburger. In any case, it's his place, totally and completely now. If he wants to add a cheeseburger to the menu, he can.