The midnight riders probably weren’t carriers and escaped by their own personal helicopter cuz in the passing you can see their tour bus pass by trying to find other survivors to save
@@thedavistheory7674 It was stated out of game by a dev that the midnight riders survived, and were using their tour bus to rescue other survivors. So while never stated in game, canonically that’s what they were doing.
@@thedavistheory7674its cannon that the midnight riders were out trying to save survivors after they escape the carnival, it was even speculated by fans that 3rd game would have you play as them
In response to those who are mad at the Midnight Riders, I always assumed that the Midnight Riders survived as they gave relief to mass levels of people in rough times. So they were used as some form of morale boost, this had always been my head theory though. Also, their pyrotechnics can ward off zombies as well as attract help.
In an interview with the level designer of Dark Carnival: Remix, Valve devs said that they envisioned that the Midnight Riders survived the outbreak, and considered making a campaign featuring them, but never got around to it.
I could of swore one of the Midnight Riders did turn into a infected. Specifically a hunter that was present in the attack on Millhaven? Their drummer I think it was. I remember it being odd as that specific hunter looked like a rockstar. Edit: I looked back through it and I was wrong, that specific hunter definitely doesn't look like any of the riders. Interestingly he looks more like he was a military member that recently turned during the Millhaven incident. I think I got it confused because that hunter just wasn't wearing a hood and actually had visible hair. Rereading the Sacrifice just made me realize that a few of the soldiers turned into special infected very quickly in that incident which is...really scary when you think about it.
You forgot to mention in the tunnel of love, whenever the survivors goes into one if the vents, they actually have a rare voiceline with ellis or nick referencing other games
@@justaweirddreamer7134 tunnel of love, there should be a small vent on the right and it would take you to the other room right across the little generator room that you progress and drop down in a manhole
My favorite bit of these videos is you showcasing the dialogue variants. they often get drowned out or cut off during actual gameplay, so its easy to miss. The "of love" joke is 100% my favorite Dark Carnival bit and none of my friends have ever noticed it.
I mostly play versus and when you play 4v4, most of the voice lines are straight up removed, its easy to miss a lot of things without actively listening for it or digging through the game files. Odd example but Rochelle in the first 10 seconds of the passing has 60 different lines of dialogue. And almost all of them are removed in 8v8 Thank you for the comment.
Some theories for the 'Midnight Rider Carrier theory': Since the military and government was in division and confusion, some may suggest that the carriers fight against the the infected or atleast run for supplies, yes it may have been rejected by others in the comics but just remember thst the military is divided due to pressure, some outposts must've allowed the idea as a last resort and let carriers like the Midnight band to fight and aid the outpost. Going onto the passing, we can see an abundancy of resources and weapons left by survivors and military alike, which also explains why the fallen survivors are so common in the campaign. So it could be possible that the Midnight Riders were tasked to extract info and gather as much supplies as needed.
Never even realized that last point about the passing. Different military groups having differing views and uses of carriers is some of the most interesting shit in this universe. I've seen people in the comments throw around the ideas of military groups entirely made up of carriers, as opposed to isolating and executing them. So much untapped potential.
and what if there are military leaders that are actually carriers too? would love to see left 4 dead 3 turn out to be about the humanity fighting back against the infection and rebuilding society bit by bit.
If you see closely at the bodies of corpses you can tell if there human a zombie corpse still has there eyes glowing while human corpses has a bullet wound somewhere and usually recycled zombie corpses just without glowing eyes
One of my most favourite bits from this one is that how at the start, Ellis ask for a moment to stop and say goodbye to Jimmy Gibbs car. It really shows how much he loves it, shame he couldnt take it for the rest of the trip
Fun trivia: In 6:14, this was actually playable via the Dark Carnival Remix. DCR restored these scrapped areas and that includes a different route in Coaster and a big ass stadium in the concern finale.
it's really cool to just take a moment once in a while to look around you and appreciate the many details that get ignored by a lot of players when playing a campaign. Nice video, can't wait for Hard Rain!
This is what's lovable about L4D. The level design, the amount of environmental storytelling, the characters' reacting to the world around them. Little things like this make the game so much more better and less boring. Valve made what is arguably, one of the best coop shooters out there and I am so sad that we're still waiting for L4D3.
I will never get tired of, "Holy shit, guys! KIDDYLAND! Also, i never had that much trouble with the 3rd chapter on vs all that much. I just make sure I've got an adrenaline shot and pop the shot the second the gate opens. Makes it hard for a charger to spawn in. I'm surprised more people don't TRY to do it.
I always think back to the OneyNG cartoon everytime I hear that LOL. Me and my bud would quote that shit all the time. Just sent it to him and responded back ASAp.
There's also a dialogue of nick saying.. " Now I wanna ride one.." Then for chapter 2 on cotton candy coach says " cotton candy! King of foods! " Another coach dialogue. " Corns dogs! Funnel cakes! Maaann this these signs bring back some memories! " Another extra coach bit.. " Maan I could use some popcorn right now! ." If you go to the empty vending machines coach says this " Damn, they can't leave a filled one up around here? "
Dude I have really loved these videos and the comments have been amazing and educating. So many people discussing lore, and ideas about the future. I really wish l4d3 would come out at some point
Ik I already commented but my gosh 4:38 hearing Nick actually going along with “of love” joke instead of complaining I find it cute he is basically getting along with his teammates unlike in dead center where he would complain about everything
possible but if the stadium is under CEDA/Military control, I doubt they would just let the riders fly away in a private helicopter, regardless of there celebrity status.
@@ImNotConz Ehhhhh a ton of the CEDA people might be fans. It's more likely CEDA just actually factually rescued them first because they are more 'valuable' in a way - Their presence can fuel propaganda afterwards. More-so - if they're carriers they would have infected someone during the show. It's unlikely they ever met zombies before then, because they were still performing as usual, and their extraction seemed to have been weeks ago - the infection is only like 3 weeks ago by L4D2 right? The timeframe doesn't match the idea of them being infection carriers. Additionally, they would have infected someone before during the shows, and a single infected would probably lead to a very quick decimation of the inside of the carnival, which only happens weeks later right before the survivors get there.
@@youmukonpaku3168 Before the apocalypse. Even then the entire US wasn't infected just part the east coast, so US dollar should still be valuable and can be use.
Its been a long time since the last time i played L4Ds and your videos gave me nostalgia, its fun to watch what i missed in the past in your videos. Keep up the good work.
It's funny that multiple times they patched and always prevent you from climbing the roller coaster meanwhile they have the survivors climbing them in the cinematic
You can see the midnight riders bus because they took the tour bus and went & tired to save more people since they had an understanding of what was going on.
Thank you for these videos, I was kinda younger when I played this game so watching these are a nostalgia blast and I love hearing these stories now that I'm older and actually understand the plot. It's a bummer valve took them off of the Xbox store cause I don't own a PC and i'd love to play this game again
Your very welcome I promise that if you do get a PC one day, Left 4 Dead 2 is more than worth it. Left 4 dead 2 was one of my first ever purchases on Steam. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the comment.
I really appreciate these videos taking their time and highlighting all the details with the campaigns and interpreting them with a narrative - Would you ever consider looking at custom campaigns? Could be fun to watch a fan summary for a fan story lol
Not sure if someone else has already mentioned this or not, but on the 4th level of dark carnival at the stadium gates. If you got the the left before walking down the stairs, you can see a small Ceda out post there with 2 dead Ceda agents. There is also a lot of cut dialog from nick that has him talking about a hippie that was supposed to help them at one point in the campaign.
I think the midnight riders probably are carriers, and we're helicoptered out to be executed. Because, just think of it. If you execute beloved celebrities in front of their fans, that'd be chaos. So they were probably trying to take them to a more secure location to kill them. Not only because it's dangerous to have carriers around all those people, but because if they did kill them their fans would cause a riot. However it seems that the midnight riders actually got away since you see their tour bus driving away in the passing.
The Passing is before Dark Carnival, so more than likely, the bus we see is going to Whispering Oaks, and more than likely they were executed or died... Or if your feeling optimistic, they could've gotten out...
It’s even possible that the tour bus that we are are an entirely new crew of carriers/survivors that we never see, heading out some place. Kinda like how the two crews we see tend to use vehicles during the finale that aren’t theirs
Should also point out the uncommon infected in the campaigns, even if you quickly mention them. Gives each of the campaigns a littler flavor. Highlighting voice lines is great. Dialogue in this game is amazing and what immerses you in the world and connects you with the characters. Vermintide 2 does this to great effect as well.
pls keep doing these, i actually just started l4d2 recently cause it was on discount few months ago, and so far I'm loving it, just finished swamp fever and ill try to keep up with the videos (i haven't watched the videos on campaigns i haven't played yet so imma keep up)
I remember when I was little and watching my dad and older sister playing this map and there were getting chased by a horde; they went back into a safe house I remember seeing a bunch of zombies trying to reach into the safe house, and I was really scared
I actually heard Elise say happy new years, days before 2016 New Year. Later on, Merry Christmas. It was a new dialog because I had never heard it before, and I've been playing L4d almost every single day when it first came out on xbox. I even played the PC demo before it was released to console.
One thing I do love is how it’s revealed that the Midnight Riders fake playing live, considering the fact that they have the songs pre-recorded. It’s just a funny detail and makes out this legendary rock band to be much more lame than they actually are, or even that they fell off considering coach says “I have ALL their albums, even their new stuff that ain’t no good”.
I'd love to see you discuss the Civil Emergency Defense Agency (CEDA) series sometime. It's a Left 4 Dead analog horror series on TH-cam that details the fall of CEDA as well as continuing the story after The Parish. I barely see anyone in the L4D fandom talk about it and it's such a shame.
Also if you’re lucky in the finale of the campaign you might receive a rare voiceline of Nick genuinely trying to know his teammates by asking Ellis or Coach if the Midnight Riders are “any good?”
I recently bought l4d2 on steam because i finally got a gaming laptop and it was the first game i bought I have such fond memories of playing it on the 360 a decade ago and the moment i started playing and saw the intro for dead centre it was the best feeling of childlike giddiness This game is despite its age one of the best ever made and ots amazing to see such a large playerbase still devoted to it
Rochelle has a unique but of dialogue when calling for everyone to get in the saferoom in this campaign she'll say "get in free hamhocks and Chitlins inside" ive noticed alot of dialogue is only spoken in versus mode sometimes cause i was using the morph mod (lets u turn into infected while in campaign mode and ive heard alot a lines ive nvr heard
Fun fact about that cut monorail section, it was reimplement by a custom map called Dark Carnival: Remix and they made use of those cut voicelines to direct the player on what to do. For the hippy part I am unaware and I think the helicopter ending is the only ending in DC:R.
Cheers for the playlist. Btw you got a good chance to catch ton shit of views if you’re gonna do long videos, got that vibe like Vaati, and voice is pretty cool. Keep it like that fella.
Thats awesome that ellis & coach would start singing on stage. Did not know you could spam voice lines tho. Maybe accessing voice lines was a PC only thing?
I remember reading online back in the day that fans were hoping the midnight riders would be dlc due to some info released or leaked from valve during L4D2 high point.
The midnight riders were probably spared to a point because they were being used perhaps to keep people s0me what relaxed by throwing concerts or anything to keep people from panicking and taking their minds off the crisis for a short time
My best guess for the mystery of the Midnight Riders- If they were carriers, they likely weren’t executed on the spot because there were people around in some capacity. It can go either way on this one, but I’m guessing either people were around to see them get into a helicopter OR it’s a lie that somebody there wrote on the wall. Assuming they were flown away in a helicopter- somebody saw them in the process. Possibly multiple people. If this group was a lot of people’s favorite band, it would cause absolute chaos to see them get gunned down by the military on the spot while they clearly aren’t infected. The military wouldn’t want to kill off Metallica in front of a bunch of fans, right? So, that could be a good reason to fly them away first.
The part about the riders getting choppered out, I'm wondering if the military did that because the riders seem to be pretty well known. And therefore if people knew they were executed, no survivor would willingly place trust or go to CEDA/the Military. Because from what I can tell, opinion on the military's actions seem pretty divided by the grafetti survivors even during the Parish. Executing the Riders (At least publicly or letting their executions be known) would more than likely shift most survivors views of the military's actions from them being 'a necessary evil' as some of them would probably think to the military being out for themselves and completely morally bankrupt.
My head cannon for the Midnight Riders bus is that that was the driver. He learned the Midnight Riders were evaked out, and he was hauling ass to catch up.
1:42 ~ I think its likely those bodies were zombies. The bodies are in separate piles. This might be the result of the soldiers reloading between each volley. And as each volley the zombies got closer. Eventually ending up right infront of the car where the soldiers were overrun or retreated. (normal people wouldn't charge into oncoming bullets) In addition, the bodies are piled quite narrowly. If they were normal humans, it wouldn't just be a pile of bodies in the center of the road. (more likely wide spread across the road) Another reason is the blood trails. The zombies were hit but continued running forward. (now, I would understand adrenaline or shock keeping them going but the previous reasons would point otherwise). Edit: But as mentioned. It wouldn't be far off to say the soldiers did shoot at people.
not too sure where I've heard this but apparently the reason there even were people at there was because they (forgot who prob the ceda) put up the concert to try and calm the civilians down, (keep in mind they didn't know the infected were attracted to sound) with our favorite band, the midnight riders. hence why they needed to be evacuated, making the writings in the wall much more sense
Something that i like to point out is that the Midnight Riders probably did escape, so they took their Tour Bus instead of the helicopter so probably the helicopter was only there to bring carriers We really dont know what happened to them, but atleast we do know they escaped the concert on their bus and are driving a fairly long distance.
its does at first but after years of it like... its fucking rough to say the least lmao Even really good survivor teams are gonna struggle there, and if theres a tank spawn then its basically game over. I swear the survivors killing the tank and making it to the saferoom happens maybe 1/10 DC games.
My friends and I played Dark Carnival VS so much to the point that the three of us could get a perfect round as Survivors and shit stomp anyone as Infected. I miss those days...
I wish that there was a Left 4 Dead 3 man. If I made the Left 4 Dead series, here is what I would do next. I would make Left 4 Dead 3 -- the characters would be a members of a university in Philadelphia, there will be the 4 characters; McGiaver: A professor, he is white, 5 foot 9, like 32 years old, kind of has a gut, but not that fat, he has a checkered light blue and white button up shirt with a red tie, and black dress pants, a slick-back hair style with red framed glasses, and kind of a long face, he has a kind of trying to be tough persona, but he does want to be there and do what's best for the team, and he will be there for his team. Alice: A young freshman female student who is white, 5 foot 6, 18 years old, has a black and blue stripped sweater, (stripes going from left to right, or horizontal), blonde hair to her shoulders, glasses, a wide nose, (I don't know why I thought of that), she wears joggers, and skinny jeans, she is shy and scared of the situations, so she is clingy with her teammates and she looks at them for support, but she will not hesitate to retaliate and shoot if her or her teammates are in danger. George: A security guard who is black, 5 foot 8, 47 years old, is fat, like a little fatter than Coach, he has a white uniform on with a name tag, and his shirt says "Campus security" on the back of it and he has a radio on his right shoulder, and like dark blue pants with a silver line down the sides of them, with what looks like a utility belt of standard security gear, although there is nothing in any of them, and he has a very serious attitude and is determined to tell people off and put them in line if they ever step out of line, but he tries to hold the team together. Rodney: A skinny boy, 5 foot 7, he is 20 years old, he is like a delinquent drinking and using drugs, and partying, just a delinquent college kid, so he has kind of an attitude, kind of like Nick, even worse than Nick, he has long curly black hair, and a light green shirt, with like a picture of a grizzly bear on it with red words in cursif saying "Hunter" with a black sleeveless jacket, with the zipper open, and brown shorts with like 6 pockets, and he wears black shoes with a red trim on the sides -- They start at the university, and the university has football players, so they keep fit, and they work out on their legs, like running and stuff, so there would be a mutation where it is the early charger designs, but a hunched over figure, a big head with increased bone structure to ram into things, arms on the sides like a dinosaur, and big legs that just let it make sharp turns and things like that, like if you turn a corner it will immediately follow you swiftly and make those sharp turns everywhere. And so they go down through like Georgia and Florida and places like that to get to New Orleans, and they go to beach resorts, and farms, and woods, and things like that. Like going on the docks at Miami, calling it "Dead Sea" or "Peer Pressure" or things like that, and through all of the resort buildings, and then on a farm, to the barn and then running through the woods behind them. Next I would make Left 4 Dead 4, and that would be like -- The characters would be city occupants from California; Malinda: A police officer, she is a hot blonde, pointy nose, (I don't know how I came up with that), hair length to like the middle of her back, and she has two bands of hair on each of the sides of her head slinked on her shoulders, she is 5 foot 11, 42 years old, has a black police uniform, a round star badge, a radio on her right shoulder piece, and a police utility belt on her uniform, she is serious at times when it calls for seriousness, but she can also be gentle to her teammates. Orion Barn The 2nd: A small time crook, he is skinny, black, 5 foot 6, 18 years old, he has a black beanie on his head, he has a white shirt with the picture of a sunrise on it, with green italics saying "Sun shine" he has a leather biker style jacket over that, he has black jeans, he wears black and white shoes, and he has a fingerless glove with spikes on his right hand, and a glove with only a finger slot on his index finger for his left hand, he is a wild person, always saying something, even in the most inappropriate of times, and sometimes he acts like he wants to leave, but when push comes to shove he is there for his team. Jancarlos: A construction worker, he is 5 foot 9, 27 years old, decent weight, he is spanish, he has a light mustache, like it is just growing in, he might have a small mole on his left cheek, he wears construction suits, like a red shirt with a contruction vest over it, he wears a white hard hat, white shoes, and jeans, and he is a team player, relying on his teammates, and being there for his teammates, because he believes that sticking together will help them to survive, and he is able to use a sludge hammer as a malee weapon. José: A taxi driver, he is spanish, he is 5 foot 9, 31 years old, decent weight, and he has like a red long sleeve sweater, and skinny cackies, with white shoes, he is a team player and is there for his teammates, but he will put people in their place if they get out of line -- They all have to go around the United States, because the states closest to them are blocked off from public access by the military and stuff like that, so they have to go around through upper states by Canada, like Michigan, and moving around to New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Philadelphia, Georgia, Florida, and so on until they get to Texas, and they go through buildings, subway stations, train stations, some gated communities, other suburbs like areas, police stations for like guns and stuff, a little bit of everything. And I would make special zombies, like... Sick zombies. Like if someone had the flu, or a cold, or mainly mucus, like how mucus becomes bronchitis, where it becomes thick and sticky, and give that to a zombie, like both males and females and they have runny noses and big looking pimples or sores with puss or the mucus, and things like that and they can sneeze and spit out this sticky, gooey, thick yellowish-green mucus, and the mucus won't hurt survivors, it will just slow them down, like when you are on low health and you becomes slow, it has that effect, just you could be at full health and the gooey mucus just slows down your moment to that extent for about 5 to 7 seconds, during which common infected can catch up faster and beat up the survivor who has been covered in the mucus, and that sticky mucus can going into and gam guns and chainsaws, so it can also relinquish survivors of their weapons, however malee weapons like bats, axes, swords, machetes, and crowbars, won't have that kind of effect, and should you kill one at close range it will explode, a little like the boomer, except you will get covered in the sticky mucus and that will trap the survivor in a vulnerable state, like where they cannot move at all, they can't pull out any weapons, they are just stuck to either the floor or walls, and this will last for 20 seconds, and during that time other normal infected can beat up the survivors, but burning acid from a spitter would dissolve the gooey mucus if a spitter spits on someone who is already trapped in mucus. And like if these sick zombies are seen, they will behave kind of like common infected, staggering around the place, but it will be sneezing almost all of the time, and releasing some of the sticky, gooey mucus onto the floor or walls, depending on where it is sneezing. Tell me what you all think.
Also, I would make a Left 4 Dead 5, with 4 characters from Dallas Texas, who would be - David: A young teenage boy, he is 17 years old, black, he is like 6 feet tall, he has a white shirt with a red line across it, like from his upper right chest down to his left hip, and above that line would be the King, from like cards with red dimonds around him, and below that same red line would be the Queen, from cards with black spades around her, and he has a black jacket, and blue jeans, and red, white, and black shoes, and he has a pointy hair style, like what looks like dreadlocks, but short and they only stick up in every direction, he is good at focusing and dealing with people, and he listens and is willing to listen, he can be hard-headed at times, but he gets serious at times when it calls for it, and he is there for his team Kaliea: A young teenage girl, she is 16 years old, black, she is 5 foot 7, she has a purple short sleeve shirt with golden glittery things around her chest area, and she as a light black short sleeve cover, like a jacket, but it has no zipper, and it looks like it is netted, with like spacing and stuff like that, and she wears skinny dark blue jeans, and high heel boots, and she has short brown hair down to her shoulders, and she has eye liner, and other sorts of makeup, and lipstick, and she is well mannered, and she tries to keep it together although she is scared, but she functions better with her team, and she is a team player, and she sticks with and is there for her team. (David and Kaliea are a couple, and they are good people, like David worked at movie theater, and he had part time jobs before that, and he is alright in school, and he was a former boyscout and camper, so he can opperate in some things, like the woods and things like that, and Kaliea is very good in school, she gets mainly straight A's most of the time, and was pursuing a legal career, and she used to babysit people and her younger brothers and sister, so she is good with dealing with people, and under stress) Abriann: He is a young teenage boy, he is 17 years old, black, he is 6 foot 1, and he wears a red short sleeve shirt with white lines up and down and a small blue shield on the upper right chestal area, but he also has that short sleeve shirt over a long sleeve white shirt, and he wears jeans, and white shoes with red trims, and he is knowledgeable and understanding, and he comes up with some ideas to help the team, and he is there for his team. Dainnia: She is a teenage girl, she is 17 years old, black, she is 5 foot 7, she always tries to look on the bright side of things, and she tries to keep the team together, and she keeps with her team, and she is there for her team, and she can becomes strong willed, confident, and serious when push comes to shove, she wears a green lepord pattern short sleeve shirt, with tight light purple pants, and short high heel boots with like fur on the ankle part, and she has eye liner and other makeup, and purple lipstick, and she has long black hair, and she has golden water droplet earrings. (Abriann and Dainnia are a couple and they are good people, Abriann is a good student, he gets mostly B's, he does not have any job, but he is knowledgeable about things like cars, because he always liked cars, and he used to help at his uncle's mechanic shop, and he also used to help his dad with the car, so he is knowledgeable about manual labor, and he used to take care of his little brother so he can deal with people and comfort them to an extent, and Diannia is a good student, with A's and B's and she is knowledgeable on many things like science and math, and she has knowledge about some other languages, history, locations, laws, and other useful things) They go through the states, from Texas up, going through the middle of the United States, and then around to like New York, and other states like that, and they are a young, but strong and knowledgeable team who can overcome anything together. Left 4 Dead 3 would be from 2011 to 2012 Left 4 Dead 4 would be 2015 to 2016 Left 4 Dead 5 would be in modern day I would create more special infected as well, like: 1. Shagg-Rat; The Shagg-Rat is a person who has been infected with the Green Flu in the game who will go through a mutation where their hair just grows out rapidly and all over, like their hair on their head, their facial hair, hair on their back, hair on and under their arms, hair on their legs, just hair everywhere, either men who grew a lot of hair pre infection, or even older individuals who use hair growth supplements to grow more hair, so the virus takes that and makes hair grow rapidly and all over and the hair will strengthen a little bit a little like quills, but the Shagg-Rat will also lick and rub bile on their hair so that it can stick up their hair kind of like a gel, and when it dries it will become harder and pricklier like a quill. Now, because of the amount of hair on this special infected it can not run, otherwise, it will trip, so it is a lie and wait kind of infected where it will hide in bushes around corners and behind doors and things, and when a survivor gets close to it it jumps up and grabs them in a bear hug digging it's pointy hairy quills into the survivor, which will do 2 to 5 points of damage every 2 seconds that it is still holding on, it has to be knocked off instead of shot off, and even after it is off the bile will stick some hair quills to the survivor's body which will lead to irritation and pain, which will cause 2 points of damage for 5 seconds. 2. Hunch-barrier; The Hunch-barrier is an individual with Hunchback who was infected with the Green Flu and the virus mutated them to where their hunchback is increased along with their body composition, so they mutate to walk on all fours, their heads are sucked into their body to where they don't have a neck anymore, they get big kind of like the Tank, but more like a turtle kind of thing where their back is hunched and added skin and muscle and stuff, but they are slow moving and really they are what other common and even special infected can hide behind to avoid gunfire, because it acts as a blockade and it has 12,000 health. 3. Lengthers; The Lengthers are individuals like basketball players who are really, really tall and lengthy, and they get infected with the Green Flu, and the virus mutates them to grow and extend and elongate their arms, legs, torso, and neck, to where it is like a Slenderman lengthy type of appearance, it would be the tallest infected ever, like 15 maybe 20 feet tall, and because of their pre infection life of being a basketball player they can turn and weave and jump high and things like that and so that is boosted for like lengther where they can out maneuver and out-run certain things like some gunfire, like jumping out of the way of a one shot type of weapon like a grenade launcher or a shotgun or a sniper, things like that, and they are too skiny and lengthy to the point of being a little like a stick or a twig to where it is not like the Tank where it is just a whole big target, you have to be precise on where you shoot or you will miss every hit, especially if it is jumping around and maneuvering everywhere. Now they don't usually scratch and attack like the typical stuff, they could do that and it would cause 5 points of damage because of their elongated fingers and fingernails, but they mainly use their size and length to be scouts, like looking for survivors over rooftops, when I say "rooftops" I mean rooftops of 1 story houses, but they can also look into the windows of 2 story houses, and over trees and just over taller areas, and it is better to take them out descretly with a sniper or something before they spot you and they then inform the horde, and with their long arms and hands they can pick up things if they aren't heavy and throw them at survivors, like Gas cans, gas tanks, maybe even some common infected or body parts of common infected, or maybe even the small jockey. Just things like that. Lengthers can be male and female depending on how tall and how active they were in their pre infection life. 4. Rider-Souge; The Rider-Souge is a person in a wheelchair who got infected with the Green Flu, and the virus mutated them into this thing that is like keeping the upper body, like the chest and stomach areas, and strinking and strivling the lower body and especially the legs to where the legs are just strivled up tiny things hanging from the tailbone lower body area, and extending the arms so that they become the main point of locomotion and the neck extends outward as well kind of like the spitter, it will look like a zombie human ostrich, but this thing can do several different things, it can attack you just like the Jockey except it bear hugs you with it's arms and bites you instead of riding you, and the bite causes 7 points of damage every 4 seconds. It can ride on the backs of common infected and jump on you if you shot the common infected that it is riding on at close range or if it gets into close proximity to you, and it can alert the horde if it gets away from you, like if you see it on it's own and you don't kill it or if you kill a common infected that it is riding on and it gets away, things like that.
"Poor dumb bastards thought they could escape on foot... Wait- That's what we're doing."
love this franchise
this actually made me laugh abit when i first played the campaign
poor dumb bastards that arent carriers
Lines like this really make me like rochelle lmao 😂
“Maybe they left them when they got rescued.”
when the carnival is dark, i sure do want the story
The story behind!
why is the centre is dead
the rain is hard
@@jmsebandal4659That just sounds wrong on so many levels.
The stream is cold
The midnight riders probably weren’t carriers and escaped by their own personal helicopter cuz in the passing you can see their tour bus pass by trying to find other survivors to save
Or the people in the bus aren't the midnight riders , or they are midnight riders but they are just escaping
Yeah I wouldn't make an assumption that they were out "saving" people and of course other people could have just taken that bus
@@thedavistheory7674 It was stated out of game by a dev that the midnight riders survived, and were using their tour bus to rescue other survivors. So while never stated in game, canonically that’s what they were doing.
@@thedavistheory7674its cannon that the midnight riders were out trying to save survivors after they escape the carnival, it was even speculated by fans that 3rd game would have you play as them
@@Batchall_Acceptedthat would be so cool.
CURSE YOU VALVE
CUUUUUURSE YOUUUU
In response to those who are mad at the Midnight Riders, I always assumed that the Midnight Riders survived as they gave relief to mass levels of people in rough times. So they were used as some form of morale boost, this had always been my head theory though. Also, their pyrotechnics can ward off zombies as well as attract help.
Weren’t the pyrotechnics what attracts the zombies in the level? or was that just the whole concert attracting them?
@@smartfella7914It Was Probably The Music And The Fire, Although Who Wouldn't Notice Music And Sudden Fire in a carnival?
In an interview with the level designer of Dark Carnival: Remix, Valve devs said that they envisioned that the Midnight Riders survived the outbreak, and considered making a campaign featuring them, but never got around to it.
@@JAiZTH-cami remember this specifically because me and my friend were really excited to play as the band lol
I could of swore one of the Midnight Riders did turn into a infected. Specifically a hunter that was present in the attack on Millhaven? Their drummer I think it was. I remember it being odd as that specific hunter looked like a rockstar.
Edit: I looked back through it and I was wrong, that specific hunter definitely doesn't look like any of the riders. Interestingly he looks more like he was a military member that recently turned during the Millhaven incident. I think I got it confused because that hunter just wasn't wearing a hood and actually had visible hair. Rereading the Sacrifice just made me realize that a few of the soldiers turned into special infected very quickly in that incident which is...really scary when you think about it.
You forgot to mention in the tunnel of love, whenever the survivors goes into one if the vents, they actually have a rare voiceline with ellis or nick referencing other games
Ellis : "One thing videogame have taught me, good shit always comes in vent"
"oh cool! This is just like half-life!" -OVERALLS
@@starflatinum244I heard that one so many times its cool to remember it here haha
where do you go for the vent? I don't remember going in one
@@justaweirddreamer7134 tunnel of love, there should be a small vent on the right and it would take you to the other room right across the little generator room that you progress and drop down in a manhole
My favorite bit of these videos is you showcasing the dialogue variants. they often get drowned out or cut off during actual gameplay, so its easy to miss. The "of love" joke is 100% my favorite Dark Carnival bit and none of my friends have ever noticed it.
I mostly play versus and when you play 4v4, most of the voice lines are straight up removed, its easy to miss a lot of things without actively listening for it or digging through the game files.
Odd example but Rochelle in the first 10 seconds of the passing has 60 different lines of dialogue. And almost all of them are removed in 8v8
Thank you for the comment.
@@ImNotConz 8v8? Am I missing something as someone who only plays singleplayer?
@@Blossoming_Fate There are mods that let you have extra players
“Into the swan maintenance room of love!” -Ellis
Some theories for the 'Midnight Rider Carrier theory':
Since the military and government was in division and confusion, some may suggest that the carriers fight against the the infected or atleast run for supplies, yes it may have been rejected by others in the comics but just remember thst the military is divided due to pressure, some outposts must've allowed the idea as a last resort and let carriers like the Midnight band to fight and aid the outpost.
Going onto the passing, we can see an abundancy of resources and weapons left by survivors and military alike, which also explains why the fallen survivors are so common in the campaign. So it could be possible that the Midnight Riders were tasked to extract info and gather as much supplies as needed.
Never even realized that last point about the passing.
Different military groups having differing views and uses of carriers is some of the most interesting shit in this universe. I've seen people in the comments throw around the ideas of military groups entirely made up of carriers, as opposed to isolating and executing them.
So much untapped potential.
and what if there are military leaders that are actually carriers too? would love to see left 4 dead 3 turn out to be about the humanity fighting back against the infection and rebuilding society bit by bit.
If you see closely at the bodies of corpses you can tell if there human a zombie corpse still has there eyes glowing while human corpses has a bullet wound somewhere and usually recycled zombie corpses just without glowing eyes
One of my most favourite bits from this one is that how at the start, Ellis ask for a moment to stop and say goodbye to Jimmy Gibbs car. It really shows how much he loves it, shame he couldnt take it for the rest of the trip
Fun trivia:
In 6:14, this was actually playable via the Dark Carnival Remix. DCR restored these scrapped areas and that includes a different route in Coaster and a big ass stadium in the concern finale.
2:47 this is also the time where Nick tries to build a connection within the survivors, asking if the Midnight Riders are any good
4:13 I swear coach said the Nword till I looked in bafflement and saw the caption 💀
Same😂
XD
sameee
@@JuiceBox000 negativity😅
Lmfao. It works well too. It feels natural.
9:47 "-come on!
They're blowing up the bridge!
Aw come on!
They're blowing up the bridge!
Aw come o-"
4:14 i thought coach said the n-word
I swear I did too
I think he really did say the word
Nigga I was in the football team lmao
Canon.
Dark carnival is one of my favorites because it reminds me of conz and i together getting freaky inside of Tunnel of Love
We takin this all the way, huh?
Who gave Ellis a youtube account
so you found someone else conz? ok you can keep the polaroids.
Its been added to the shrine already, don't you worry..
it's really cool to just take a moment once in a while to look around you and appreciate the many details that get ignored by a lot of players when playing a campaign. Nice video, can't wait for Hard Rain!
Judging by the poll, Swamp Fever is likely next but I will get to Hard Rain at some point.
This is what's lovable about L4D. The level design, the amount of environmental storytelling, the characters' reacting to the world around them. Little things like this make the game so much more better and less boring. Valve made what is arguably, one of the best coop shooters out there and I am so sad that we're still waiting for L4D3.
I will never get tired of, "Holy shit, guys! KIDDYLAND! Also, i never had that much trouble with the 3rd chapter on vs all that much. I just make sure I've got an adrenaline shot and pop the shot the second the gate opens. Makes it hard for a charger to spawn in. I'm surprised more people don't TRY to do it.
I always think back to the OneyNG cartoon everytime I hear that LOL. Me and my bud would quote that shit all the time. Just sent it to him and responded back ASAp.
There's also a dialogue of nick saying..
" Now I wanna ride one.."
Then for chapter 2 on cotton candy coach says " cotton candy! King of foods! "
Another coach dialogue.
" Corns dogs! Funnel cakes! Maaann this these signs bring back some memories! "
Another extra coach bit..
" Maan I could use some popcorn right now! ."
If you go to the empty vending machines coach says this
" Damn, they can't leave a filled one up around here? "
Whispering oaks!! shii i use to go there when i was a kid.
Oh good. Now we can die there as adults
5:57 42 is also the answer to everything according to Hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy.
Midnight Riders as Lfd3 survivors would be dope
With the 42, someone at Valve might also be a Douglas Adams fan.
Dude I have really loved these videos and the comments have been amazing and educating. So many people discussing lore, and ideas about the future. I really wish l4d3 would come out at some point
Just found your content and I gotta admit, it’s the best laid out L4D content I’ve seen man; tops Wow Such Gamings stuff on it imo
I very much appreciate the comment and that comparison.
Ik I already commented but my gosh 4:38 hearing Nick actually going along with “of love” joke instead of complaining I find it cute he is basically getting along with his teammates unlike in dead center where he would complain about everything
"Quick throught the maintance tunnel of love"
My favourite chapter. The concert finale is just soo fun
Great work, Conz! Keep it up!!!
8:45 It's could be they buyed themselves their own Helicopter that was written in one of the graffiti.
possible but if the stadium is under CEDA/Military control, I doubt they would just let the riders fly away in a private helicopter, regardless of there celebrity status.
@@ImNotConz Ehhhhh a ton of the CEDA people might be fans. It's more likely CEDA just actually factually rescued them first because they are more 'valuable' in a way - Their presence can fuel propaganda afterwards.
More-so - if they're carriers they would have infected someone during the show. It's unlikely they ever met zombies before then, because they were still performing as usual, and their extraction seemed to have been weeks ago - the infection is only like 3 weeks ago by L4D2 right? The timeframe doesn't match the idea of them being infection carriers. Additionally, they would have infected someone before during the shows, and a single infected would probably lead to a very quick decimation of the inside of the carnival, which only happens weeks later right before the survivors get there.
who's selling a helicopter for money by several weeks into the end of the world? Cash ain't worth shit and helicopters are priceless.
@@youmukonpaku3168 Before the apocalypse.
Even then the entire US wasn't infected just part the east coast, so US dollar should still be valuable and can be use.
Its been a long time since the last time i played L4Ds and your videos gave me nostalgia, its fun to watch what i missed in the past in your videos. Keep up the good work.
Swamp Fever video is in progress as we speak
‘The air duct of love’ is absolutely engrained into my brain
Everyone: commenting on the story
Me: simply focusing on the fact that Nick actually went along with "of love" joke than complain
It's funny that multiple times they patched and always prevent you from climbing the roller coaster meanwhile they have the survivors climbing them in the cinematic
Nick: Into the swan maintenance room of love.
Yessssssssss Dark Carnival!
Theres a lot of interesting lore here! Great coverage man!
Can't wait for Swamp Fever!
Give it like 3 or 4 days. Should be good to go hopefully soon.
You can see the midnight riders bus because they took the tour bus and went & tired to save more people since they had an understanding of what was going on.
Considering how famous the midnight riders are it's possible that they couldn't get away with executing them.
Thank you for these videos, I was kinda younger when I played this game so watching these are a nostalgia blast and I love hearing these stories now that I'm older and actually understand the plot. It's a bummer valve took them off of the Xbox store cause I don't own a PC and i'd love to play this game again
Your very welcome
I promise that if you do get a PC one day, Left 4 Dead 2 is more than worth it. Left 4 dead 2 was one of my first ever purchases on Steam.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the comment.
These videos are a lot of fun. You earned a sub, Love me Left 4 Dead.
Man I love Ellis he is funny and relatable 3:11
I really appreciate these videos taking their time and highlighting all the details with the campaigns and interpreting them with a narrative - Would you ever consider looking at custom campaigns? Could be fun to watch a fan summary for a fan story lol
Not sure if someone else has already mentioned this or not, but on the 4th level of dark carnival at the stadium gates. If you got the the left before walking down the stairs, you can see a small Ceda out post there with 2 dead Ceda agents. There is also a lot of cut dialog from nick that has him talking about a hippie that was supposed to help them at one point in the campaign.
I think the midnight riders probably are carriers, and we're helicoptered out to be executed. Because, just think of it. If you execute beloved celebrities in front of their fans, that'd be chaos. So they were probably trying to take them to a more secure location to kill them. Not only because it's dangerous to have carriers around all those people, but because if they did kill them their fans would cause a riot. However it seems that the midnight riders actually got away since you see their tour bus driving away in the passing.
The Passing is before Dark Carnival, so more than likely, the bus we see is going to Whispering Oaks, and more than likely they were executed or died... Or if your feeling optimistic, they could've gotten out...
It’s even possible that the tour bus that we are are an entirely new crew of carriers/survivors that we never see, heading out some place. Kinda like how the two crews we see tend to use vehicles during the finale that aren’t theirs
its raining outside, im covered up with my blanket, i have one large pizza and ur video is playing. thanks man u really made my prettiest night ever
Should also point out the uncommon infected in the campaigns, even if you quickly mention them. Gives each of the campaigns a littler flavor.
Highlighting voice lines is great. Dialogue in this game is amazing and what immerses you in the world and connects you with the characters. Vermintide 2 does this to great effect as well.
pls keep doing these, i actually just started l4d2 recently cause it was on discount few months ago, and so far I'm loving it, just finished swamp fever and ill try to keep up with the videos (i haven't watched the videos on campaigns i haven't played yet so imma keep up)
I also recently started playing L4D2 because of a discount, and I'm loving it.
I remember when I was little and watching my dad and older sister playing this map and there were getting chased by a horde; they went back into a safe house I remember seeing a bunch of zombies trying to reach into the safe house, and I was really scared
I actually heard Elise say happy new years, days before 2016 New Year. Later on, Merry Christmas. It was a new dialog because I had never heard it before, and I've been playing L4d almost every single day when it first came out on xbox. I even played the PC demo before it was released to console.
Have you actually been playing the game for almost 20 years straight?
8 mins ago is darking my carnival
One thing I do love is how it’s revealed that the Midnight Riders fake playing live, considering the fact that they have the songs pre-recorded. It’s just a funny detail and makes out this legendary rock band to be much more lame than they actually are, or even that they fell off considering coach says “I have ALL their albums, even their new stuff that ain’t no good”.
In a zombie apocalypse, a dustbin of a band is still better than hearing PSAs all day.
Oh come on he left out the tunnel of unwanted advances line, that's me and my friends favorite
I'd love to see you discuss the Civil Emergency Defense Agency (CEDA) series sometime. It's a Left 4 Dead analog horror series on TH-cam that details the fall of CEDA as well as continuing the story after The Parish. I barely see anyone in the L4D fandom talk about it and it's such a shame.
Literally didnt even know about it until you told me.
That's something worth watching, might make a video on it.
that's an idea for sure
Ellis is definitely the heart of the group
Also if you’re lucky in the finale of the campaign you might receive a rare voiceline of Nick genuinely trying to know his teammates by asking Ellis or Coach if the Midnight Riders are “any good?”
Loved the video,keep it up!
Another kickass vid.
Reinstalled L4D2 not long ago thanks to these videos resparking my interest.
Happy Too and I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Ellis really does make the best out of everything and i love him fir that
I recently bought l4d2 on steam because i finally got a gaming laptop and it was the first game i bought
I have such fond memories of playing it on the 360 a decade ago and the moment i started playing and saw the intro for dead centre it was the best feeling of childlike giddiness
This game is despite its age one of the best ever made and ots amazing to see such a large playerbase still devoted to it
I still pray for a custom campaign where you play as the midnight riders, that would be so worth it
Rochelle has a unique but of dialogue when calling for everyone to get in the saferoom in this campaign she'll say "get in free hamhocks and Chitlins inside" ive noticed alot of dialogue is only spoken in versus mode sometimes cause i was using the morph mod (lets u turn into infected while in campaign mode and ive heard alot a lines ive nvr heard
7:51 Imagine if l4d3 follows the midnight riders
Fun fact about that cut monorail section, it was reimplement by a custom map called Dark Carnival: Remix and they made use of those cut voicelines to direct the player on what to do. For the hippy part I am unaware and I think the helicopter ending is the only ending in DC:R.
Cheers for the playlist.
Btw you got a good chance to catch ton shit of views if you’re gonna do long videos, got that vibe like Vaati, and voice is pretty cool.
Keep it like that fella.
Your very welcome
and I do plan on doing longer lore related videos once the campaigns are done. Thank you for the kind words :)
Man… I really want a katana sword of love.
You forgot the quote when Nick say at the end “oh I’m going to regret this but raise the song whooo” at the end when they call the chopper
I was waiting for this video, I've really liked the series so far 🤑
God Bless you and your family, brother!
i love how at 2:53 it says on the left side of the screen "Rochelle protected Big Dick Bill"
💀💀💀
Dark Carnival is my favorite campaign.
Thats awesome that ellis & coach would start singing on stage. Did not know you could spam voice lines tho. Maybe accessing voice lines was a PC only thing?
2009, i play for the skill, mechanic. Now i just come for the plot and story.
I remember reading online back in the day that fans were hoping the midnight riders would be dlc due to some info released or leaked from valve during L4D2 high point.
The midnight riders were probably spared to a point because they were being used perhaps to keep people s0me what relaxed by throwing concerts or anything to keep people from panicking and taking their minds off the crisis for a short time
And Whispering Oaks was hit just an hour before our group arrived.
"Midnight Riders? I got ALL their albums. Even the new shit that ain't no good!" -Coach
Looking forward to your takes on swamp fever and hard rain.
My best guess for the mystery of the Midnight Riders-
If they were carriers, they likely weren’t executed on the spot because there were people around in some capacity. It can go either way on this one, but I’m guessing either people were around to see them get into a helicopter OR it’s a lie that somebody there wrote on the wall.
Assuming they were flown away in a helicopter- somebody saw them in the process. Possibly multiple people. If this group was a lot of people’s favorite band, it would cause absolute chaos to see them get gunned down by the military on the spot while they clearly aren’t infected. The military wouldn’t want to kill off Metallica in front of a bunch of fans, right? So, that could be a good reason to fly them away first.
4:05 Take a shot everytime they say love.
The part about the riders getting choppered out, I'm wondering if the military did that because the riders seem to be pretty well known. And therefore if people knew they were executed, no survivor would willingly place trust or go to CEDA/the Military. Because from what I can tell, opinion on the military's actions seem pretty divided by the grafetti survivors even during the Parish. Executing the Riders (At least publicly or letting their executions be known) would more than likely shift most survivors views of the military's actions from them being 'a necessary evil' as some of them would probably think to the military being out for themselves and completely morally bankrupt.
My head cannon for the Midnight Riders bus is that that was the driver. He learned the Midnight Riders were evaked out, and he was hauling ass to catch up.
My favorite campaign
5:00 The Good "fucking" Luck got me. 😂 But hey, I really love ellis' positivity on this one.
1:42 ~ I think its likely those bodies were zombies.
The bodies are in separate piles. This might be the result of the soldiers reloading between each volley.
And as each volley the zombies got closer. Eventually ending up right infront of the car where the soldiers were overrun or retreated. (normal people wouldn't charge into oncoming bullets)
In addition, the bodies are piled quite narrowly. If they were normal humans, it wouldn't just be a pile of bodies in the center of the road. (more likely wide spread across the road)
Another reason is the blood trails. The zombies were hit but continued running forward. (now, I would understand adrenaline or shock keeping them going but the previous reasons would point otherwise).
Edit: But as mentioned. It wouldn't be far off to say the soldiers did shoot at people.
Zombie flying @4:55
A crime to forget to mention Coach's favorite ride as a little peanut.
not too sure where I've heard this but apparently the reason there even were people at there was because they (forgot who prob the ceda) put up the concert to try and calm the civilians down, (keep in mind they didn't know the infected were attracted to sound) with our favorite band, the midnight riders. hence why they needed to be evacuated, making the writings in the wall much more sense
42 is probably actually a hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference
Something that i like to point out is that the Midnight Riders probably did escape, so they took their Tour Bus instead of the helicopter so probably the helicopter was only there to bring carriers
We really dont know what happened to them, but atleast we do know they escaped the concert on their bus and are driving a fairly long distance.
5:15 only on versus right?? Never seen a tank at the end of the coaster
I believe so. Im primarily a versus player and tank spawns at the end of the coaster are very common.
@@ImNotConz that sounds interesting and terrifying lmao
its does at first but after years of it like... its fucking rough to say the least lmao
Even really good survivor teams are gonna struggle there, and if theres a tank spawn then its basically game over. I swear the survivors killing the tank and making it to the saferoom happens maybe 1/10 DC games.
My friends and I played Dark Carnival VS so much to the point that the three of us could get a perfect round as Survivors and shit stomp anyone as Infected. I miss those days...
Did anyone ever asked themselves how the hell rochelle could hold on to Nick with only one arm while climbing up In the intro?
5:56 or hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.
I never knew about the microphone easter egg. I'm going to have to try that the next time I play.
Im curious if thats the case about the midnight riders. They were seen in the passing as a rare easter egg.
Dark carnival is also where Jotaro saved gnome chompski for the achievement
Incendiary ammo of love is killing me😂
This has gotta be one of the best campaigns to hook casual players if dead center wasn't enough to convince them XD
8:47 Typical Bot Jockey Movement
I wish that there was a Left 4 Dead 3 man.
If I made the Left 4 Dead series, here is what I would do next.
I would make Left 4 Dead 3 -- the characters would be a members of a university in Philadelphia, there will be the 4 characters;
McGiaver: A professor, he is white, 5 foot 9, like 32 years old, kind of has a gut, but not that fat, he has a checkered light blue and white button up shirt with a red tie, and black dress pants, a slick-back hair style with red framed glasses, and kind of a long face, he has a kind of trying to be tough persona, but he does want to be there and do what's best for the team, and he will be there for his team.
Alice: A young freshman female student who is white, 5 foot 6, 18 years old, has a black and blue stripped sweater, (stripes going from left to right, or horizontal), blonde hair to her shoulders, glasses, a wide nose, (I don't know why I thought of that), she wears joggers, and skinny jeans, she is shy and scared of the situations, so she is clingy with her teammates and she looks at them for support, but she will not hesitate to retaliate and shoot if her or her teammates are in danger.
George: A security guard who is black, 5 foot 8, 47 years old, is fat, like a little fatter than Coach, he has a white uniform on with a name tag, and his shirt says "Campus security" on the back of it and he has a radio on his right shoulder, and like dark blue pants with a silver line down the sides of them, with what looks like a utility belt of standard security gear, although there is nothing in any of them, and he has a very serious attitude and is determined to tell people off and put them in line if they ever step out of line, but he tries to hold the team together.
Rodney: A skinny boy, 5 foot 7, he is 20 years old, he is like a delinquent drinking and using drugs, and partying, just a delinquent college kid, so he has kind of an attitude, kind of like Nick, even worse than Nick, he has long curly black hair, and a light green shirt, with like a picture of a grizzly bear on it with red words in cursif saying "Hunter" with a black sleeveless jacket, with the zipper open, and brown shorts with like 6 pockets, and he wears black shoes with a red trim on the sides --
They start at the university, and the university has football players, so they keep fit, and they work out on their legs, like running and stuff, so there would be a mutation where it is the early charger designs, but a hunched over figure, a big head with increased bone structure to ram into things, arms on the sides like a dinosaur, and big legs that just let it make sharp turns and things like that, like if you turn a corner it will immediately follow you swiftly and make those sharp turns everywhere.
And so they go down through like Georgia and Florida and places like that to get to New Orleans, and they go to beach resorts, and farms, and woods, and things like that. Like going on the docks at Miami, calling it "Dead Sea" or "Peer Pressure" or things like that, and through all of the resort buildings, and then on a farm, to the barn and then running through the woods behind them.
Next I would make Left 4 Dead 4, and that would be like -- The characters would be city occupants from California;
Malinda: A police officer, she is a hot blonde, pointy nose, (I don't know how I came up with that), hair length to like the middle of her back, and she has two bands of hair on each of the sides of her head slinked on her shoulders, she is 5 foot 11, 42 years old, has a black police uniform, a round star badge, a radio on her right shoulder piece, and a police utility belt on her uniform, she is serious at times when it calls for seriousness, but she can also be gentle to her teammates.
Orion Barn The 2nd: A small time crook, he is skinny, black, 5 foot 6, 18 years old, he has a black beanie on his head, he has a white shirt with the picture of a sunrise on it, with green italics saying "Sun shine" he has a leather biker style jacket over that, he has black jeans, he wears black and white shoes, and he has a fingerless glove with spikes on his right hand, and a glove with only a finger slot on his index finger for his left hand, he is a wild person, always saying something, even in the most inappropriate of times, and sometimes he acts like he wants to leave, but when push comes to shove he is there for his team.
Jancarlos: A construction worker, he is 5 foot 9, 27 years old, decent weight, he is spanish, he has a light mustache, like it is just growing in, he might have a small mole on his left cheek, he wears construction suits, like a red shirt with a contruction vest over it, he wears a white hard hat, white shoes, and jeans, and he is a team player, relying on his teammates, and being there for his teammates, because he believes that sticking together will help them to survive, and he is able to use a sludge hammer as a malee weapon.
José: A taxi driver, he is spanish, he is 5 foot 9, 31 years old, decent weight, and he has like a red long sleeve sweater, and skinny cackies, with white shoes, he is a team player and is there for his teammates, but he will put people in their place if they get out of line --
They all have to go around the United States, because the states closest to them are blocked off from public access by the military and stuff like that, so they have to go around through upper states by Canada, like Michigan, and moving around to New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Philadelphia, Georgia, Florida, and so on until they get to Texas, and they go through buildings, subway stations, train stations, some gated communities, other suburbs like areas, police stations for like guns and stuff, a little bit of everything.
And I would make special zombies, like... Sick zombies. Like if someone had the flu, or a cold, or mainly mucus, like how mucus becomes bronchitis, where it becomes thick and sticky, and give that to a zombie, like both males and females and they have runny noses and big looking pimples or sores with puss or the mucus, and things like that and they can sneeze and spit out this sticky, gooey, thick yellowish-green mucus, and the mucus won't hurt survivors, it will just slow them down, like when you are on low health and you becomes slow, it has that effect, just you could be at full health and the gooey mucus just slows down your moment to that extent for about 5 to 7 seconds, during which common infected can catch up faster and beat up the survivor who has been covered in the mucus, and that sticky mucus can going into and gam guns and chainsaws, so it can also relinquish survivors of their weapons, however malee weapons like bats, axes, swords, machetes, and crowbars, won't have that kind of effect, and should you kill one at close range it will explode, a little like the boomer, except you will get covered in the sticky mucus and that will trap the survivor in a vulnerable state, like where they cannot move at all, they can't pull out any weapons, they are just stuck to either the floor or walls, and this will last for 20 seconds, and during that time other normal infected can beat up the survivors, but burning acid from a spitter would dissolve the gooey mucus if a spitter spits on someone who is already trapped in mucus. And like if these sick zombies are seen, they will behave kind of like common infected, staggering around the place, but it will be sneezing almost all of the time, and releasing some of the sticky, gooey mucus onto the floor or walls, depending on where it is sneezing.
Tell me what you all think.
Also, I would make a Left 4 Dead 5, with 4 characters from Dallas Texas, who would be -
David: A young teenage boy, he is 17 years old, black, he is like 6 feet tall, he has a white shirt with a red line across it, like from his upper right chest down to his left hip, and above that line would be the King, from like cards with red dimonds around him, and below that same red line would be the Queen, from cards with black spades around her, and he has a black jacket, and blue jeans, and red, white, and black shoes, and he has a pointy hair style, like what looks like dreadlocks, but short and they only stick up in every direction, he is good at focusing and dealing with people, and he listens and is willing to listen, he can be hard-headed at times, but he gets serious at times when it calls for it, and he is there for his team
Kaliea: A young teenage girl, she is 16 years old, black, she is 5 foot 7, she has a purple short sleeve shirt with golden glittery things around her chest area, and she as a light black short sleeve cover, like a jacket, but it has no zipper, and it looks like it is netted, with like spacing and stuff like that, and she wears skinny dark blue jeans, and high heel boots, and she has short brown hair down to her shoulders, and she has eye liner, and other sorts of makeup, and lipstick, and she is well mannered, and she tries to keep it together although she is scared, but she functions better with her team, and she is a team player, and she sticks with and is there for her team.
(David and Kaliea are a couple, and they are good people, like David worked at movie theater, and he had part time jobs before that, and he is alright in school, and he was a former boyscout and camper, so he can opperate in some things, like the woods and things like that, and Kaliea is very good in school, she gets mainly straight A's most of the time, and was pursuing a legal career, and she used to babysit people and her younger brothers and sister, so she is good with dealing with people, and under stress)
Abriann: He is a young teenage boy, he is 17 years old, black, he is 6 foot 1, and he wears a red short sleeve shirt with white lines up and down and a small blue shield on the upper right chestal area, but he also has that short sleeve shirt over a long sleeve white shirt, and he wears jeans, and white shoes with red trims, and he is knowledgeable and understanding, and he comes up with some ideas to help the team, and he is there for his team.
Dainnia: She is a teenage girl, she is 17 years old, black, she is 5 foot 7, she always tries to look on the bright side of things, and she tries to keep the team together, and she keeps with her team, and she is there for her team, and she can becomes strong willed, confident, and serious when push comes to shove, she wears a green lepord pattern short sleeve shirt, with tight light purple pants, and short high heel boots with like fur on the ankle part, and she has eye liner and other makeup, and purple lipstick, and she has long black hair, and she has golden water droplet earrings.
(Abriann and Dainnia are a couple and they are good people, Abriann is a good student, he gets mostly B's, he does not have any job, but he is knowledgeable about things like cars, because he always liked cars, and he used to help at his uncle's mechanic shop, and he also used to help his dad with the car, so he is knowledgeable about manual labor, and he used to take care of his little brother so he can deal with people and comfort them to an extent, and Diannia is a good student, with A's and B's and she is knowledgeable on many things like science and math, and she has knowledge about some other languages, history, locations, laws, and other useful things)
They go through the states, from Texas up, going through the middle of the United States, and then around to like New York, and other states like that, and they are a young, but strong and knowledgeable team who can overcome anything together.
Left 4 Dead 3 would be from 2011 to 2012
Left 4 Dead 4 would be 2015 to 2016
Left 4 Dead 5 would be in modern day
I would create more special infected as well, like:
1. Shagg-Rat; The Shagg-Rat is a person who has been infected with the Green Flu in the game who will go through a mutation where their hair just grows out rapidly and all over, like their hair on their head, their facial hair, hair on their back, hair on and under their arms, hair on their legs, just hair everywhere, either men who grew a lot of hair pre infection, or even older individuals who use hair growth supplements to grow more hair, so the virus takes that and makes hair grow rapidly and all over and the hair will strengthen a little bit a little like quills, but the Shagg-Rat will also lick and rub bile on their hair so that it can stick up their hair kind of like a gel, and when it dries it will become harder and pricklier like a quill. Now, because of the amount of hair on this special infected it can not run, otherwise, it will trip, so it is a lie and wait kind of infected where it will hide in bushes around corners and behind doors and things, and when a survivor gets close to it it jumps up and grabs them in a bear hug digging it's pointy hairy quills into the survivor, which will do 2 to 5 points of damage every 2 seconds that it is still holding on, it has to be knocked off instead of shot off, and even after it is off the bile will stick some hair quills to the survivor's body which will lead to irritation and pain, which will cause 2 points of damage for 5 seconds.
2. Hunch-barrier; The Hunch-barrier is an individual with Hunchback who was infected with the Green Flu and the virus mutated them to where their hunchback is increased along with their body composition, so they mutate to walk on all fours, their heads are sucked into their body to where they don't have a neck anymore, they get big kind of like the Tank, but more like a turtle kind of thing where their back is hunched and added skin and muscle and stuff, but they are slow moving and really they are what other common and even special infected can hide behind to avoid gunfire, because it acts as a blockade and it has 12,000 health.
3. Lengthers; The Lengthers are individuals like basketball players who are really, really tall and lengthy, and they get infected with the Green Flu, and the virus mutates them to grow and extend and elongate their arms, legs, torso, and neck, to where it is like a Slenderman lengthy type of appearance, it would be the tallest infected ever, like 15 maybe 20 feet tall, and because of their pre infection life of being a basketball player they can turn and weave and jump high and things like that and so that is boosted for like lengther where they can out maneuver and out-run certain things like some gunfire, like jumping out of the way of a one shot type of weapon like a grenade launcher or a shotgun or a sniper, things like that, and they are too skiny and lengthy to the point of being a little like a stick or a twig to where it is not like the Tank where it is just a whole big target, you have to be precise on where you shoot or you will miss every hit, especially if it is jumping around and maneuvering everywhere. Now they don't usually scratch and attack like the typical stuff, they could do that and it would cause 5 points of damage because of their elongated fingers and fingernails, but they mainly use their size and length to be scouts, like looking for survivors over rooftops, when I say "rooftops" I mean rooftops of 1 story houses, but they can also look into the windows of 2 story houses, and over trees and just over taller areas, and it is better to take them out descretly with a sniper or something before they spot you and they then inform the horde, and with their long arms and hands they can pick up things if they aren't heavy and throw them at survivors, like Gas cans, gas tanks, maybe even some common infected or body parts of common infected, or maybe even the small jockey. Just things like that. Lengthers can be male and female depending on how tall and how active they were in their pre infection life.
4. Rider-Souge; The Rider-Souge is a person in a wheelchair who got infected with the Green Flu, and the virus mutated them into this thing that is like keeping the upper body, like the chest and stomach areas, and strinking and strivling the lower body and especially the legs to where the legs are just strivled up tiny things hanging from the tailbone lower body area, and extending the arms so that they become the main point of locomotion and the neck extends outward as well kind of like the spitter, it will look like a zombie human ostrich, but this thing can do several different things, it can attack you just like the Jockey except it bear hugs you with it's arms and bites you instead of riding you, and the bite causes 7 points of damage every 4 seconds. It can ride on the backs of common infected and jump on you if you shot the common infected that it is riding on at close range or if it gets into close proximity to you, and it can alert the horde if it gets away from you, like if you see it on it's own and you don't kill it or if you kill a common infected that it is riding on and it gets away, things like that.
I wished there would be full conversion mods lmao
2:10 I never made that connection.
awesome video 👍🏽