i remember people were upset about Bioware turning Kaiden bisexual. Thing is, this is pretty common in real life. Like people developing feelings for someone they've been close with or realizing their sexual orientation much later life.
True. People get butthurt over the silliest things, and some folks don't get that bisexuality isn't some 50/50 thing. Would I have liked to romance Kaidan starting from the first game? Sure. But it actually works quite well this way too.
I'm a late blooming Bisexual man and this relationship means so much to me. That it's okay to come to terms and accept yourself at any age or circumstance.
He might have been bisexual all along. It's not like Kaiden openly talked about his sexuality in the first game. He just made some comments about Liara being nice to look at. That doesn't mean he's totally straight.
@@MrTripleXXXhe did tho? he talked about a turkish girl he had a huge crush on in his camp days and how he always wanted to care for her and protect her from their abusive turian supervisor
@@poppy7899 We're literally the same💀 I wanted to save Ashley once to see her character development, but for the love of God, I JUST can't do it! But for ME2 did u romance anyone? Choosing Miranda/Jack (Not a big fan of Tali) is really hard but put Kaidan in the equation, those 2 won't even cross my mind 😭✋
@@ainfaiz6201 I've saved Ashley once (as FemShep) so that I could see her story arc and get her bonus power. It felt weird. Most of my Mass Effect playthroughs are on PS where there are no mods. So I never romance anyone in 1 & 2 and just wait till I get to ME3 and can then romance Kaidan (I've romance someone in the first two games only once to unlock trophies). On PC it's Kaidan - no-one - Kaidan.
Do you know what is so great about Mshep and Kaidan. It is not just hey let's just bang before go to another mission. But it takes lots of time to build their relationship and finally confess their sanity checked LOL. (It takes ME1, ME2 and then finally ME3 to confess their love) Can't wait for the next game of Mass Effect merge with Andromeda.
Yeah. I've done a few trilogy playthroughs on a console so I had to wait till the 3rd game to be able to romance him. That feeling when you finally get to the cafe scene... Totally worth it!
I like that you included the in-between stuff, like the club scene with Cortez. 😊 I always play as femShep but if I ever did play as maleShep, it’s mShep/Kaidan all the way.
Thanks for saying that :) I like adding more than just the actual romance related scenes so that the stories are easier to follow and romances feel more complete. Who do you like to romance as FemShep?
I wish someone would just do a cinematic of the aftermath of that last scene we seen Shepherd breath. Just so we can have Kaiden and Shepherd together again!
There will be something little like that in my next ME3 video (I know, how many Kaidan romance videos can one make lol) 'cause I'm gonna use some mods that "fix" the ending of the game.
Allegedly, BioWare is finally ready for pre-production on Mass Effect 4 (and making improvements to Dragon Age 4). I hope it's true, because we've waited so long to find out what happened to Shepard. And poor Kaiden, he believes he's lost Shepard, again. 💗😭
I'm waiting for ME3 romance mod release so I can finish my Kaidan trilogy romance playthrough and finally get a happy ending for him as well :D As for the next game, I'll believe it when I see it. I do want it, of course, but all this mess Bioware has had with Dragon Age 4 doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Tbh it’s good that there taking so long for Mass Effect 4. With how rushed 3 was and how much of a disaster it was taking this long to make the next one should be amazing
I love the Kaidan mod for me1 that activates the dialogue for the romance that was removed for political reasons. It’s so good. One of the lines is male shep will flirt with kaidan saying “i think you need more physical training” and kaidan will say “finally, a reason to look forward to physical training!” Since kaidan is a non-combat specialist it makes sense. And when joker interrupts them right before they’re about to kiss lol
New to this and I don't think this is the only site but I am so taken by Shepard and Kaidan's blossoming long term romance. They're so great together it breaks me that Shepard doesn't make through in the end. I felt for Joker too! A best bud to both of them! I believe in my movie heart Shepard is alive and maybe found in an induced coma by a another highly intelligent super race. Hard to believe this series drew me in! Especially these two characters. Nonetheless excellent! Love this ship with these two! Why don't the studio's do live action on these two! Way overdue especially when the public cries out for original content (some independent studio's too) these major studios with their recycled plots, situations and setting they need schooling damn there is a market for this universe. Poppy straight up KUDOS to you for this! AWESOME! You're doing the creator's work! LOL. I hope we see them reunite again.
I can't wait till there's a certain romance mod for ME3 that adds a bit more content. That mod + Audemus' Happy Ending mod and then I can play the 3rd game again as Mshep and romance Kaidan. I'm so looking forward to it haha
When I played Mass Effect 3 for the first time with my old Paragon Male Shep, I also waited until I got Ashley on board and I did the Eden Prime mission with her. Also, I admire that you were not an entire jerk to Kaidan...I could summerize your Shepard as Renegon. Prefers Renegade, but makes Paragon decisions sometimes.
I always do the Eden Prime mission with the Virmire survivor. It feels more special because that's where you did your first mission together. When I play as FemShep I usually have Ash alive so I have seen her there as well. And true, I don't go completely renegade. My ME3 Shep is as you said renegon. I'm the most renegade in ME2 and then I get those hilarious looking led eyes 😂
@@michaelpawer So in Mass Effect trilogy Shepard's morality or alignment is measured with renegade and paragon points. The system varies a bit from one game to another but usually you don't need to be 100% something, many players are paragade or renegon (so more paragon or renegade but still making a good number a decisions that net them points from the other one). You get points from dialogue options you choose and decisions you make. High renegade (or paragon) can unlock extra dialogue depending on a game. Shepard's alignment can change how their crew perceives them/change some lines the crew says. Some paragon or renegade decisions can have a huge impact later in the game/trilogy. The morality helps you roleplay your character. Paragon Shepard is someone kind(er), more of a hero type who tries to help people. Renegade is more ruthless and no-nonsense, the end justifies the means sort of a person. I know some websites call paragon "good" and renegade "bad" but they are not that. Well, I guess unless you go 100% on one or the other. For example (for me) Mass Effect 3 100% paragon Shepard looks like a naive goody two-shoes while 100% renegade is just a ridiculously rude nutjob. I hope this helps :)
No. Mass Effect trilogy is Shepard's story and Mass Effect Andromeda (the latest ME game) is completely different game with different galaxy, characters and story. There is a ME game in works but no one know what it's gonna be about and who is going to be the protagonist.
That's a disappointment. I just learned of Mass Effect today. ..... And I'm kind of hooked.... But just the m/m components. ;-) The older I get the less interest I have in anything straight.
I am so digging that video game companies are down with same sex relationships. This very PG13 love affair is so cool to see in a very butch game. Love these videos that highlight the possibility of gay love. Nice work.
Can someone explain how you give Kaidan the wine at the hospital?!? NEVERMIND THIS VIDEO SHOWS IT. THANK YOUUU. Wait how do u get to the store to buy it?
Shepard dying at the end depends on the ending you pick and the number of war assets you have. In MELE Shepard survives only if they pick destroy and they have at least 7400 war assets before the Cerberus HQ mission.
I always visit him three times (when he's unconscious, when he is awake but still in bed and when he's about to be released) but I *think* it doesn't matter if you don't visit him when he's unconscious. I think as long as you visit him when he's in bed and you give him that whisky bottle the romance path is still open.
@@poppy7899 I gave him the whiskey, it’s just weird cause every time I went to visit him while he was unconscious people were in the room still (this was even after I talked with the doctors)
@@ylvesamorosino1616 In both of my ME3 Mshenko videos (the other one: th-cam.com/video/FkOJRu2Xm-Q/w-d-xo.html) Shepard survives. It is possible for him to die but I haven't recorded that version.
Gifts (whiskey for Kaidan, books and other stuff for Ashley) should be available when you first arrive to Citadel. I don't think they are there anymore if you have already visited Kaidan/Ashley.
Thank you. Yeah i went back and replayed about a half hour. I went to the gift shop first and it was there. Though he didn't say 'are you flirting with me commander, he just talked about experience 😢 lol
@@whatever5091 After you give him the bottle he just thanks you and talks about wanting to get out of the hospital. He should say the 'are you flirting with me, commander' line when you ask about his implant. You didn't get that line there?
Twice during the Citadel DLC date (2:25:14), after the Citadel DLC party (2:32:23), before the Cerberus HQ mission (cabin romance scene 2:42:42) and during the final mission Priority: Earth (that's the one in the picture, 2:56:37)
I always kill off someone (besides I don't even like Miranda so she dies fairly often, either in 2 or 3). Tbh I've only done one "everyone survives" playthrough and that was because of the trophy.
@@moisemensah8233 Yeah I mainly kill characters off for roleplaying reasons. I change things up from one playthrough to another and no one is safe except Kaidan (except that one time when I saved Ash instead to see her arc and get her bonus power).
Shepard sent Kaidan away with the Normandy and then went and activated the crucible (and before he did that Anderson died). The crucible did its magic by destroying the reapers and anything with a reaper code. A lot of things got destroyed but Shepard survived and somehow Kaidan knew/sensed it and that's why he didn't place the nameplate on the wall. It's also possible to get an ending where Shepard doesn't survive and then the LI places the nameplate on the memory wall. I hope this helps!
every so often I come back and rewatch these videos of mass effect and the romance between shepard and kaidan cuz it has a special place in my heart 🥺
I totally understand!
And when do they fall in Love with each other?? 🥰
I do too. Kaidan is the logical choice male or female.
i remember people were upset about Bioware turning Kaiden bisexual. Thing is, this is pretty common in real life. Like people developing feelings for someone they've been close with or realizing their sexual orientation much later life.
True. People get butthurt over the silliest things, and some folks don't get that bisexuality isn't some 50/50 thing. Would I have liked to romance Kaidan starting from the first game? Sure. But it actually works quite well this way too.
@@poppy7899 yea, I’m 100% for slow burn and mutual pining till you get everything you want at the end. Makes this romance seem so genuine that way.
I'm a late blooming Bisexual man and this relationship means so much to me.
That it's okay to come to terms and accept yourself at any age or circumstance.
He might have been bisexual all along. It's not like Kaiden openly talked about his sexuality in the first game. He just made some comments about Liara being nice to look at. That doesn't mean he's totally straight.
@@MrTripleXXXhe did tho? he talked about a turkish girl he had a huge crush on in his camp days and how he always wanted to care for her and protect her from their abusive turian supervisor
Went to have a snack with a friend, had a sanity check,a heart too heart talk. left with a husband for life.
That is so heartwarming, funny enough. Same way with me and one of my good friends
Mshenko will always have a special place in my heart. Thank you for uploading this, I really appreciate it!
You're welcome :) I always play as Mshep and always romance Kaidan.
@@poppy7899 We're literally the same💀
I wanted to save Ashley once to see her character development, but for the love of God, I JUST can't do it!
But for ME2 did u romance anyone?
Choosing Miranda/Jack (Not a big fan of Tali) is really hard but put Kaidan in the equation, those 2 won't even cross my mind 😭✋
Wait i just read one of your comments saying that u don't like Miranda. HOWWWW?!
@@ainfaiz6201 I've saved Ashley once (as FemShep) so that I could see her story arc and get her bonus power. It felt weird.
Most of my Mass Effect playthroughs are on PS where there are no mods. So I never romance anyone in 1 & 2 and just wait till I get to ME3 and can then romance Kaidan (I've romance someone in the first two games only once to unlock trophies). On PC it's Kaidan - no-one - Kaidan.
@@ainfaiz6201 I don't like how she is in 2. There are many popular characters I don't like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do you know what is so great about Mshep and Kaidan. It is not just hey let's just bang before go to another mission. But it takes lots of time to build their relationship and finally confess their sanity checked LOL. (It takes ME1, ME2 and then finally ME3 to confess their love)
Can't wait for the next game of Mass Effect merge with Andromeda.
Yeah. I've done a few trilogy playthroughs on a console so I had to wait till the 3rd game to be able to romance him. That feeling when you finally get to the cafe scene... Totally worth it!
I like that you included the in-between stuff, like the club scene with Cortez. 😊 I always play as femShep but if I ever did play as maleShep, it’s mShep/Kaidan all the way.
Thanks for saying that :) I like adding more than just the actual romance related scenes so that the stories are easier to follow and romances feel more complete.
Who do you like to romance as FemShep?
@@poppy7899Garrus 🥰
I romanced Kaidan in my first play through with my FShep. I made a MShep to romance Tali, then I saw Kaidan again. Now I’m planning on romancing him.
I wish someone would just do a cinematic of the aftermath of that last scene we seen Shepherd breath. Just so we can have Kaiden and Shepherd together again!
There will be something little like that in my next ME3 video (I know, how many Kaidan romance videos can one make lol) 'cause I'm gonna use some mods that "fix" the ending of the game.
Here's to hoping we can continue our romance in the next game!
@@thekillermisfits PLEASE, MY HEART
@@poppy7899please do.
@@poppy7899You never did this bro 😞
Love the realism here. Shepherds’ facial injuries and scars are very well edited, and heal over the course of the movie.
Can't get over how natural this romance feels 🥰
I am not a gamer, but I am a sci fi fanatic. whoever put this together, brilliant work! you have me riveted.
Same here! Gays and sci fi - perfect combination!
Enjoyed the Mshenko story and their dialogue. thank god I didn't miss this opportunity.
Shepard's change of expression at 2:26:37 cracks me up.
Allegedly, BioWare is finally ready for pre-production on Mass Effect 4 (and making improvements to Dragon Age 4). I hope it's true, because we've waited so long to find out what happened to Shepard. And poor Kaiden, he believes he's lost Shepard, again. 💗😭
I'm waiting for ME3 romance mod release so I can finish my Kaidan trilogy romance playthrough and finally get a happy ending for him as well :D
As for the next game, I'll believe it when I see it. I do want it, of course, but all this mess Bioware has had with Dragon Age 4 doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Tbh it’s good that there taking so long for Mass Effect 4. With how rushed 3 was and how much of a disaster it was taking this long to make the next one should be amazing
The toothbrush scene sent me lol
"If you told me this morning that a toothbrush was gonna help save the Normandy... I'd have been very skeptical."
Shepard : the alliance could sure use you. I could use you (in bed)
😂
I love the Kaidan mod for me1 that activates the dialogue for the romance that was removed for political reasons. It’s so good. One of the lines is male shep will flirt with kaidan saying “i think you need more physical training” and kaidan will say “finally, a reason to look forward to physical training!” Since kaidan is a non-combat specialist it makes sense. And when joker interrupts them right before they’re about to kiss lol
best romance in mass effect universe...they should let us make this choice in the 1 of "legendary edition" :(
Shepard is so hot, every time I look at him, his face is perfect
New to this and I don't think this is the only site but I am so taken by Shepard and Kaidan's blossoming long term romance. They're so great together it breaks me that Shepard doesn't make through in the end. I felt for Joker too! A best bud to both of them! I believe in my movie heart Shepard is alive and maybe found in an induced coma by a another highly intelligent super race. Hard to believe this series drew me in! Especially these two characters. Nonetheless excellent! Love this ship with these two! Why don't the studio's do live action on these two! Way overdue especially when the public cries out for original content (some independent studio's too) these major studios with their recycled plots, situations and setting they need schooling damn there is a market for this universe. Poppy straight up KUDOS to you for this! AWESOME! You're doing the creator's work! LOL. I hope we see them reunite again.
I can't wait till there's a certain romance mod for ME3 that adds a bit more content. That mod + Audemus' Happy Ending mod and then I can play the 3rd game again as Mshep and romance Kaidan. I'm so looking forward to it haha
I always play Femshep - but this Mshenko combination is great!
Thank you for the opportunity to refresh my memory of this novel, the most interesting in the entire trilogy in my opinion!
Kaidan's voice is so seccsy
When I played Mass Effect 3 for the first time with my old Paragon Male Shep, I also waited until I got Ashley on board and I did the Eden Prime mission with her. Also, I admire that you were not an entire jerk to Kaidan...I could summerize your Shepard as Renegon. Prefers Renegade, but makes Paragon decisions sometimes.
I always do the Eden Prime mission with the Virmire survivor. It feels more special because that's where you did your first mission together. When I play as FemShep I usually have Ash alive so I have seen her there as well. And true, I don't go completely renegade. My ME3 Shep is as you said renegon. I'm the most renegade in ME2 and then I get those hilarious looking led eyes 😂
@@poppy7899
Ikr? With not completely Renegade scars, you look like a sith emperor. 🤣 No offense. 🤣🤣🤣
@@poppy7899sorry for my lack of knowledge but what's the difference between being a renegade and not being renegade? Is there any impact?
@@michaelpawer So in Mass Effect trilogy Shepard's morality or alignment is measured with renegade and paragon points. The system varies a bit from one game to another but usually you don't need to be 100% something, many players are paragade or renegon (so more paragon or renegade but still making a good number a decisions that net them points from the other one). You get points from dialogue options you choose and decisions you make. High renegade (or paragon) can unlock extra dialogue depending on a game. Shepard's alignment can change how their crew perceives them/change some lines the crew says. Some paragon or renegade decisions can have a huge impact later in the game/trilogy. The morality helps you roleplay your character. Paragon Shepard is someone kind(er), more of a hero type who tries to help people. Renegade is more ruthless and no-nonsense, the end justifies the means sort of a person. I know some websites call paragon "good" and renegade "bad" but they are not that. Well, I guess unless you go 100% on one or the other. For example (for me) Mass Effect 3 100% paragon Shepard looks like a naive goody two-shoes while 100% renegade is just a ridiculously rude nutjob. I hope this helps :)
@@poppy7899 wow, I totally understand everything about this game thanks to you, your videos are awesome 👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻.
That was just beautiful
Oh we down bad huh
I miss them
Enjoying the storyline of two men in a relationship…Is there a Mass Effect 4 that deals with their continuing bromance?
No. Mass Effect trilogy is Shepard's story and Mass Effect Andromeda (the latest ME game) is completely different game with different galaxy, characters and story. There is a ME game in works but no one know what it's gonna be about and who is going to be the protagonist.
That's a disappointment. I just learned of Mass Effect today. ..... And I'm kind of hooked.... But just the m/m components. ;-)
The older I get the less interest I have in anything straight.
2:16:43 that expression says it all😂
I am so digging that video game companies are down with same sex relationships. This very PG13 love affair is so cool to see in a very butch game. Love these videos that highlight the possibility of gay love. Nice work.
Well said :)
WTF i didnt know this could be posible lmao
Too bad it's not possible to romance him in ME1 without modding the game.
2:01:13-2:02:31 💀
Can someone explain how you give Kaidan the wine at the hospital?!? NEVERMIND THIS VIDEO SHOWS IT. THANK YOUUU. Wait how do u get to the store to buy it?
The store is in the hospital, before you get to Kaidan's room.
@@poppy7899 Thanks Poppyy
19:00 Liara ships it 😂
2:42:33 "I'm Hank Steel the real queer cowboy" ahh romance (iykyk)
I played this 2-3 years ago and didn’t die at the end, and if I were to romance him would I end up dying at the end or- idk how it works lmao
Shepard dying at the end depends on the ending you pick and the number of war assets you have. In MELE Shepard survives only if they pick destroy and they have at least 7400 war assets before the Cerberus HQ mission.
@@poppy7899 ohhh alright thanks, had me a little worried there
When I visited Kaiden he was awake, is there a different impact for romance if this happens?
I always visit him three times (when he's unconscious, when he is awake but still in bed and when he's about to be released) but I *think* it doesn't matter if you don't visit him when he's unconscious. I think as long as you visit him when he's in bed and you give him that whisky bottle the romance path is still open.
@@poppy7899 I gave him the whiskey, it’s just weird cause every time I went to visit him while he was unconscious people were in the room still (this was even after I talked with the doctors)
Shepherd should not have died.
In this playthrough he didn't die. Kaidan doesn't place Shepard's nameplate on the wall and at the very end you can see him breathe.
@@poppy7899I couldnt see in this episode. Gonna try tô watch again. Or there is another vídeo??? Thanks for answering me.
@@ylvesamorosino1616 In both of my ME3 Mshenko videos (the other one: th-cam.com/video/FkOJRu2Xm-Q/w-d-xo.html) Shepard survives. It is possible for him to die but I haven't recorded that version.
Thank you so much once again.
How do you get the whiskey as an option? The only thing i was able to buy was the gel
Gifts (whiskey for Kaidan, books and other stuff for Ashley) should be available when you first arrive to Citadel. I don't think they are there anymore if you have already visited Kaidan/Ashley.
Thank you. Yeah i went back and replayed about a half hour. I went to the gift shop first and it was there. Though he didn't say 'are you flirting with me commander, he just talked about experience 😢 lol
@@whatever5091 After you give him the bottle he just thanks you and talks about wanting to get out of the hospital. He should say the 'are you flirting with me, commander' line when you ask about his implant. You didn't get that line there?
@@poppy7899 no he didnt. But i still got the romance but bummed i didn't get that line lol
I get 3 text/vocal options that I don’t see here grrrr chose 1 and he got shot/died guess have to try other 2 now
2:24:03 What would have happened if you‘d have saved him?
Shepard would have offered him his hand but the clone would have let go and fallen to his death anyway.
@@poppy7899 Not that I liked the clone but it’s kinda sad that he would have died either way…. Thanks for the quick answer though😁
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2:44:00
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When do they kiss??
Twice during the Citadel DLC date (2:25:14), after the Citadel DLC party (2:32:23), before the Cerberus HQ mission (cabin romance scene 2:42:42) and during the final mission Priority: Earth (that's the one in the picture, 2:56:37)
Boo you killed Miranda for fk sake.
I killed her at first but kept her alive in my second playthrough. Love her so much!
I always kill off someone (besides I don't even like Miranda so she dies fairly often, either in 2 or 3). Tbh I've only done one "everyone survives" playthrough and that was because of the trophy.
@@poppy7899 At least one for the dramatic effect
@@moisemensah8233 Yeah I mainly kill characters off for roleplaying reasons. I change things up from one playthrough to another and no one is safe except Kaidan (except that one time when I saved Ash instead to see her arc and get her bonus power).
@@poppy7899 I always disliked Ashley and favored Miranda. I once let Tali and Miranda die. And in another one, Samara. But Miranda is my favorite.
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I don't understand what happened in the end scenes?? Can someone explain? Please???🥲
Shepard sent Kaidan away with the Normandy and then went and activated the crucible (and before he did that Anderson died). The crucible did its magic by destroying the reapers and anything with a reaper code. A lot of things got destroyed but Shepard survived and somehow Kaidan knew/sensed it and that's why he didn't place the nameplate on the wall. It's also possible to get an ending where Shepard doesn't survive and then the LI places the nameplate on the memory wall. I hope this helps!