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- This panel deals with the growing importance of the Indo-Pacific region in world politics, especially in the United States, and the nature of regional polarization and alliances. It highlights India’s posture in the China-US competition and its impact on New Delhi’s strategic status and the future of the regional structure.
Speakers:
Dr. Samir Saran, President, Observer Research Foundation (ORF), New Delhi
Dr. James Crabtree, Columnist at Foreign Policy
Dr. N. Janardhan, Director of Research and Analysis, Anwar Gargash Diplomatic Academy
Dr. Wu Bingbing, Director, Middle Eastern Studies at the Institute for International and Strategic Studies, Peking University (IISS)
Moderator: Mr. Paolo Magri, Executive Vice-President, Italian Institute for International Political Studies (ISPI)
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Dr Saran nailed it when he said that China wants a multipolar world but a unipolar Asia.
The Chinese panelist also nailed it when he said that India wants multipolar Asia but unipolar South Asia.
@@thecomment9489a wu mao doesn't have the brain cells to see the nailed chyna
@@thecomment9489 Are you that daft that you don't understand what point was being made ? What has China to do in South Asia ?
@@BruceWayne12345 China has very good bilateral relationships with almost all the countries of South Asia and they probably want China as counterbalance. Also China is a South Asian country, isn't it? Just not in the almost defunct SAARC.
@@thecomment9489lol, your average less knowledgable but high talk person. First get all the information related to south Aisa politics.
Sameer Saran sums it up very well at minute ~40. He very correctly points out the Chinese condescending behaviour towards all other powers in Asia, including India, as it appeared in Chinese gentleman’s comments a while earlier.
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India is an utter dishonest nation in Asia. It tried to steal territory from all of its neighbors India is being pushed back by China because it is basing its territorial claim on its old colonial master of UK.
wow...wht a thought provoking discussion!! Love the way Sameerji delivers India's viewpoint!! Wonderful!!👍
We just want to be ourselves. Not be made to Americans thats all. Our values are deep in us. Our gods,our history,our ancestors are dear to us. Commerce and politics are ok but noone should interfere in our personal life and soceity
Why he is so aggressive unnecessarily.. We want to cooperate not confront with west. 🙄
He was acting like a over enthusiastic college student in first ten minutes.
@@nishantshrivastava9674well considering the fact that the west is funding the existance of a terrorist country its understandable + his aggression provides a message to the normal people and shows how will the west treated . But will not hamper our relationship
@SamirSaran is brilliant…instead of beating around the bush, he does plain speak….Much needed ❤
India has to balance US and China. Their cold war should not become our hot war. We are not bothered about China ,its society or growth. Till it threatened us. Now China is viewed as a clear and only real threat. China has done a self goal. INDIA has grown closer to US because of China. Only because of Chinas aggression. China has miscalculated badly. Next US president will court Russia and isolate China. China Russia friendship is fragile. Its only because of need. Russia has no choice. Given a choice they would be closer to Europe. But its not. Given a choice india would love to have good relations with China and US both. But China has repeatedly threatened india. So US is a strong partner, Russia a friend, China an aggressive neighbour
Brilliant for India is comedy and lap dog for Europeans to laugh at, and for East Asians is IQ of about 75. No time for a nation can talks a lot of philosophy and gets nothing done.
Samir Sir actually nailed it, as a student of geo-politics I always look forward to him and never get disappointed 🙃🙃
We have many globalized Indians. National Indians and regional village fork too
Absolutely fantastically put Sameer. He is an Absolutely brilliant Scholar 🙂 👍🏽👍🏽🇮🇳
Chinas future depends on how it harmonizes with india. Both have a long history of coexistence. India realized this long back as hindi China bhai bhai , but it backfired on us. So we have retreated back. China can't have peace without india and india without China. But they have to realise this first. India has retreated back and even vary and suspicious now of China after ladhak fiasco. India sees China as a threat now. This suits west
So its not going to change. China has to manage a hostile asia. Japan Korea, Phillipines,India,veitnam, Australia, Taiwan, Israel, China is not exactly popular
Its money is desired but its control is not
China has close relations with ASEAN Nations, Both Koreas, Japan, Australia & NZ through RCEP. China has close relations with Russia, Iran, + Nations in Middle East, Africa, and South America. India is caught between Russia and China. The US-UK & West EU proved what they are in Ukraine.
Australis is also caught in AUKUS Treaty with US-UK against China (Australia’s largest Trading Partner).
@@dnickaroo3574Tch, tch. Even after 3 months, not a single upvote.😮
We need more of this new Hawkish Samir Saran
I would love to be a part of the Observer Research Foundation. You guys are doing a great service to our Nation! Thanks and kudos for your efforts :)
Apart from our external affairs minister Mr. jaishankar, I also like Sameer Saran's insights very much on india & its foreign policy.His clarity of thought when it comes to china is especially remarkable which was evident at this forum also.other panelists were apologists for china.
Other panelists were realists. India should be asking or rather working for advancing it's interests rather than advancing US regime's interests.
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None of India's interests can be advanced as long as China wants power outside of East Asia, particularly in the Indian Ocean region. Therefore, India is forced to back the US, which is the only counterbalance to China.
@@xijinpig8982 ROFL. As a country progresses and becomes economic powerhouse it is sure to have interests outside of it's own reason. If IOR countries see more benefits in aligning with China they are sure to align with China. And IOR is where most of China's and majority of world trade passes through.
And US regime is the reason why China has to realign it's geopolitical and economic interests.
@@thecomment9489lol.. China. It's not American interests. That's dumb statement. May be if you're late to party, China is claiming Arunachal pradesh which was never ruled by China. Also, they want to adjust border near Ladakh. Their companies have done tax evasion in massive scale. Remember tiktok, some ahck revealed they had all indian users information regarding their usage. China is aggressive and unpredictable. You are dumb and naive.
@thecomment9489 well if china wants to have outside interests then why are you saying about US regime induans don't want china's influence
Brilliant Dr Saran 💪🚩🇮🇳🚩💪
In the end people on the street are smarter than people who tweet. Truer words have never been spoken.
Great respects for Samir Saran. Very well hosted conference and excellent clarity of views put through. Kudos.
Always a pleasure Samir!
समीर rocks!
As usual, Samir Saran is to-the-point, bold and honest. Kudos to him.
Excellent discussion!
Samir Sir nailed it.
Nailed himself and Bharat to the wall of shame!
OMG Mr. Sammar is just the best contributor to this talk session. Its about time the West wake up
BRI traversing thru the Occupied Land by Pakistan is the thorn !
Dr. Samir's views are profound, I had to take a deep breadth after he concluded it.
A well known philosopher once said, it doesn’t matter what you wish, but what you can achieve and realize!
@SuperSaran …too good ❤❤❤
Wow! Samir
Brilliant Sameer Saran!
Good❤😮
Great discussion
India is looking for stability in the pacific and Asia regions. Coexistence is the name.
Fantastic discussion. Eminent panelists. Thank you 😊 54:32
India is in high spirits
Explained With out a Staine , Thank you . Prejudiced mindset may not But FORCE by itself
Great points made by Samir as always but he was interrupting a lot in the beginning
India is the EU of the Indo-Pacific. Dr. Samir summed it very well. India is not one thing, she is many things. She has so much to learn from all the mistakes of the USA, EU, China and others.
China was also an EU but under Mao she was forced to throw out differences and compound similarities and that has worked for a while but she has created a heavy handed governance that do not empower all her peoples and differences.
India, on the other hand has the opportunity to develop differently. Empowering all her individual states to develop in economies and culture unique to them yet part of a greater India. Herein, is the CHALLENGE FOR A NEW INDIA AND HER CURRENT LEADERS.
There are big cultural and spiritual differences between India and China. India has suffered much in the hands of the Brits but she is still able to OVERCOME that impact and continue forward movement without revenge. KARMA is QUITE ENOUGH!
China also suffered much in the hands of the Brits but they take their humiliation to another level. They are clearly extremely successful and by virtue of their own numbers can continue well with or without the rest of the world. However, they have a great need to show the world how SUCCESSFUL they really are. But the difficulty came, in being too overt to challenge the USA, the hand that supported her, and at the same time intimidate most of her neighbours.
India is not yet ready to take on anybody nor should she. She has quite enough in taking care of her own peoples and issues. SHE has an amaZing future to develop without going too fast, keeping her integrity to her own peoples and the people of the world and LEARNING FROM THE MISTAKES OF ALL THE BIG NATIONS.
INDIA has an incredible strength of her own culturally, spiritually and developmentally. She is not easily influenced or swayed in negative ways for power and control. It seems to come naturally to India. Others, easily give her the power. I think, most of us recognize the higher good that India represents for peace and security in the world. Wish her great success and good partnerships with the rest of the world.
Lots of love to BHARATIYA representative
Agree entirely sir
people on the street, are better than people who tweet #India :)
India +1 + With; Australia; Japan, Korea, Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia;
should form one formidable and solid ONE BLOC.
No one can intimidate us.
be super power in ECONOMY and In Military Might
Of the two Indian panelists, one of them talked for China.
The one who talks for China is sensible in his head, right?
India and China can have much better relations and Economic Cooperation if 1)China vacates the Aksai Chin area of Ladakh where they have forcibly occupied 38,500 Sq. Kms.of Indian Territory 2)Withdrew their bogus claim on Arunachal Pradesh State of India 3)Co-operates on DEMARCATING THE BORDER BETWEEN INDIA AND CHINA And 4) Agrees for a time bound reduction of Armed Forces on both the Indian side and the Chinese side of the Border.Any other problem between the two can be sorted out by mutual discussion.
you're asking for China's capitulation to India as a condition ? Is it acceptable to India if the same demand is made by China ? If no, then keep fantasizing !
Exactly same from Chinese side, if India wants to have a good relationship with China, 1) return Southern Tibet to China; 2) don’t claim Aksai Chin any more; 3) keep peace in the border; 4) India joins BRI and RCEP.
Sameer saran gives sentimental answers, would have loved the answers of Prof Harsh v Pant to these questions.
China is getting paranoid by INDIA's international approach. Why?
Each country has to focus on growth/Modernization.
India wants a global family.
China and US want their family to dominate the world.
Hope the world concentrates more on cooperation rather than domination. This will help poor countries to participate in the growth/Modernisation. The 6 C concept spoken by the mid East gentlman is also a good platform for all countries to sustain their sovereignity and culture.
India will never be another China
If war happens in Taiwan the world will sanction China many businesses with move away from China to India example Tesla and iPhone
Beautiful question regarding role of philosophers in international relations.
Disappointed by response and lack of.
As Tuco would say - Tight Tight Tight!
Sameer, you did not answer the first question by the anchor.....he was trying to refer to the History....and connect to India and its growth. If you can put off the hats you are "owning", and think about what he said. Hint: Refer to the world History he is referring to , recent being China.
Export min 250 Million educated; skilled youth across this Globe to all 200 Nations;
why?
To Bridge the skill Gaps;
especially in
Ai, Robotics, Digital, Stack back.
Bridge the mother India to the world;
USHER PEACE ; TRANQUILITY;harmony
Love ; peace to prosperity;
work ; work and work hard ;harder and hardest;
IF CHINA CAN DO; INDIA CAN DO BETTER..
Samir Saran takes no prisoners. Left Paulo & Bingbing gasping😅
We teach China how to treat everyone equally. India doesn't want to play a central role but will always be there to provide support and assistance to any country.
teach China ? when & how ?
shameless claim !
Think about how you treat the U.S. because they will never let India progress above where you are now.
Chinese don't like Indo-Pacific, let's focus on it😅
India can focus on it because most of ASEAN countries not focusing on it. Only for country that serve as pawn for the US will focus on this US centric strategy that is losing .
@@jliang70 india don't like usa too they admire China Japan very much as an eastern cousins
But china is too agressive to handle we never shared border with china they occupy the buffer zone now want to accept our land
@@jliang70 to be honest china development is because of usa now let us take our price of the pie don't be too self centred 😂
Great discussion and some good plain speaking.
@Crabtree: 43:34 - to your this part…..India has always provide a line of credit or helped neighbors, however the latter have EXPLOITED countries….see Srilanka, Bangladesh Nepal etc etc 😂
Sri Lanka invited China for it's Port City Colombo project. Bangladesh has it's longest bridge built by the Chinese and it already has higher per capita GDP. Nepal, well it shares a backward culture like India's but may be with China's help it may also see improvements in living standards. Remind you Nepal and Bhutan both have similar geographies but Bhutan's per capita GDP is more than twice of Nepal's. They are more busy in weird marriages. That's Hindu way of thought.
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Bhutan's gdp per capita is higher due to safe and secure condition in the country and Indian security guarantee. Nepal has corruption worse than any South Asian country except maybe Pakistan and Afghanistan. As for the bridge, even Bangladeshi government denied that China did it. China is just a declining and deluded power that is now trying to buy time after realising they made USA the enemy too early before being powerful enough. After licking American ass for 30 years to get rich, they now act like countries like India, Vietnam, Philippines, Singapore and others are American vassals just because they are doing what China did many years ago, which is licking American ass. After all, China is the expert master on how to lick American and Western ass 🤣🤣🤣
One thing for certain, when Saren talk he doesn’t want to stop.
@@thecomment9489 First, don't be a coward and hide behind a fake ID on TH-cam. Second, the entire world knows that along with Sri Lanka and Pakistan, there are many countries in Asia and Africa which have been forced into debt by China. Every Sri Lankan knows this and they have gratitude that India was the only country that helped them during their economic slowdown. Lastly, you know nothing about the Hindu way of thought, your people were swinging on trees without any clothes while Indians were mastering the fields of astronomy, medicine, and mathematics!
@@thecomment9489china did the projects leaving a huge unstable debt to those nations leading to their almost economic collapse…helpful projects are welcome but having propaganda behind like the sort of using loans on failing which you somehow lose out sovereignty isn’t fair…
On the verge of such collapse india has time and again provided them a helping hand and will continue to do so coz this part of the world has got a history of over several thousands of years which reflects in our thought process…we believe in them as our close family…
MOST ADVANTAGE DISCUSSION
Just a matter of time 🧑🤝🧑🇺🇲
12:00 "friends with benefits😂😂😂
Looks like no one else got it!!!
He is good. I like Dr. Jaishankar or I find him more smarter.. just that bit of finesse I guess is missing.
In Asia, who else but China.? India is still behind.... A long way.
the answer is no one, you petty authoritarian.
14:00 institutions will have changes in third term of Modi.
Janardan - I would rather say, “don’t do to others what you don’t want them to do to you”
CHINESE SPEAKER WAS VISIBLY CRYING 😅😅😅😅😅
Yes he was so crying that he went back to his 19 trillion dollar country to his developed world cities. The Indian speaker also came back, possibly to his own high end residence but deludedly thinking that this is how most of India lives and therefore India should lay it's claim to multipolar world with 111 rank in global hunger index and other terrible performance on other human development indicators.
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19 USD TRILLION ECONOMY IS FARCE LIKE CHEAP CHINESE CORRUPTION PARTY PROPOGANDA. INDIA AT USD 4 TRILLION IS MAKING CHINESE CRY LIKE BABIES IMAGINE INDIA AT USD 10 TRILLION, WILL MAKE LOSER ARMY SHITTING IN PANTS.
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BTW BEST CHINESE EXPORT TO THE WORLD TILL DATE " WUHAN VIRUS"
LOL 😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😂
@thecomment9489 Why Chinese cry so much ? Inspite of being No 2 economy. 😅😅😅
@@ravindersoi4654 I don't see Chinese crying but only the deluded ones mistakenly thinking that they are about to become a superpower. Many believe they are already a suppa pawa... lol
It is very easy for China to neutralize the Indian threat. They would have to return to the territory they militarily took in 1962 and forego their claims on existing Indian, Nepalese and Bhutanese territory.
I can say simply about china. China can grow higher levels at all aspects. But the communism won't accepted at all. Communism is the major drawback that country is facing.
China and India had same economy in 1980, India had 25 years of democracy and china had 25 years of communism. Today China is 5 times that of India. So please
@@DineshTwanabasu thats not because of communism but authoritarianism with capitalist policies
@@alpha-vs1fx So do u agree that Chinese system has produced better output than the Indians?
I dont think China is exporting communism any wherr
WTF - At 11:02 the guy says 'My Partner is too big' ! LOL!
This guy is selling India with his mouth
A unipolar Asia was never going to be possible because Russia is also part of Asia, and its Eurasianism project implies that India needs to play a greater role in balancing power in the region. Therefore, Russia will, and already does, support India's emancipation. However, India refuses to understand that its stance against Pakistan and Myanmar will prevent it from realizing its true vocation.
Typo error : Mr Samir Saran
Co-existence is for all countries. Exclusivity does not help.
The US brought down Japan’s Economy by 1990. Australia has been invited to join RCEP, a Trading Block founded by ASEAN Nations. RCEP includes ASEAN, China, Both Koreas, Japan, Australia & NZ. However, the US has formed AUKUS - an Alliance with US-UK aimed against China. Australia pays $360 Billion to US, so that American Submarines use Australian Ports to patrol South China Seas. This has Cost Australia much Trade with China, our major Trading Partner (we have the largest Debt since 1950). The US could not care less - It plans its next War!
Asia was multipolar. Indians, arabs, persians,turks,Mongols, Japanese have a strong civilisational identity. Russia is an asian power too. No question of unipolar asia. Yes,maybe if chinese accomodates all.
Feeler of gape place and benifit earning are place of Understanding during made careless as crissis management and oppertunitist only, responsible when ?
So the US has claimed dominance over the whole western hemisphere since the 1820’s. A guy from a declining civilization. Italy has no sovereignty so it has no area of influence.
what evidence is being used to state that 340 million BPL population are moving up?
It is easier to talk up on India's inequalities.
Europe +amarica =1.5( amarican), general understanding of the world about Europe
The Chinese character can’t resist a while later to pass a comment on India’s position on regional vs Asian vs global multipolarity. Once again shows Chinese internal thinking and condescending attitude towards other nations, especially India. Laughably, after while finishing his comment the way the person jumps in his chair shows something peculiar - hey I scored over you. Therefore, surely a balance of views isn’t likely to be easy so far as India and China go. India needs to get stronger because the dragon respects only power, and power flows from strong economy and cumulative national power reading this Chinese behaviour.
China always had middle kingdom delusions
Indo pacific was coined by US strategists with the acceptance of US and India government, while China up to this day still stick to Asia Pacific when describing the region.
So talk that China want a unipolar Asia narrative seems flimsy.
Do the presenters see a connection between Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Dharma Shala & Dalai Lama recently and the explosion of chaos in Bangladesh ?
印度人用一年的时间去探讨如何在中东建立经济圈，然后拖延十年的时间；中国人用一天的时间去探讨，然后用十个月的时间去完成。
Why China hate Indo-pacific so much?
Because it a term created by the west to irritate china. There is not much subatance in it. India has nothing to do with the pacific.. that's china's domain.. just like indian ocean is indian domain
Funny how that guy has to keep reminding us that he's European - don't worry, mate, we can tell! especially when you go on to tell us that you can't see us (Asia; India, China) as different from you (Europe ; France Germany trauma bonded together in EU since ww2).
At least he admits, by implication, what he sees as potential future of Asia
asean is absolutely one pole in Asia, south korea, japan and u.s. are another, india is the third.
All of a sudden the world gets another noise maker from india. A damn loud one still lacking substance
44:49 India wants multi-polar Asia but uni-polar South Asia, as the Chinese delegate put it & forgets an essential factor. It is about Asian identity. Just as Europe has an identity of its own, doesn't mean Asia too should have "one". Geographically "Eurasia" is one continent & Europe is part of it. The others are "Central", "West", "South", "South-East", "East" & "North Asia" (major portion of Russia): each with own identity on par with "Europe" (comparable in size) & with a dominant country . Half of humanity is in "S", "SE" & "E" Asia, that has to be viewed thus. Chinese argument is unsustainable as it views Asia on par with Europe!
Focus of Indo-Pacific (Pacific & Indian Oceans) region is "Malacca" straits - both trade-wise and (as a consequence) militarily.
Asean will come later at the right timing, Asean not DUMB
You are lying; China go for multpolar
This western guys goes to india to talk about china...trying to coax a fight between neighbors
Samir is a bit aggressive all the time. He should be able to portray his points in a subtle succinct way that will bite the interviewers tongue.
no
Assembly of Nation or Home political and violent reaction with distructions call opposison butt in crissis in home's how do they behave and reacting ? Home and Parliyament is meaningless whoo ?
The host is not very good in use of the English language
A
Chinese guest was doing crap.
Samir a fount of words, words, words. But he said nothing.
The jealousy of Samir over Chinese development is not surprising. Almost every indians have same view, a media effect.
This guy is so fake
The jealousy and insecurity among a particular sect of people (Muslims and Chinese) is profound 😂
India was not lethargic but was under false notion and premise of bhaichara under stupid leadership, i e., karma. But this lover, marriage, metaphor by "woke" America is not o terrible but also stupid.
superpower india 2023
#111 in Hunger index
#161 in Freedom Press index
#126 in Happy index
#139 in GDP per capita
#134 in HDI index
#148 in Women, Peace And Security Index
#1 pollution
10% earn
I am form india brother completely agree with you.
But India has have potential to become super power but our politician are literally crupts.
But it’s because of huge population , remember India is the country which will eventually beat USA
@@AmitJha-d7l this is definitely not a answer? And what about china?
Nice assessment. I guess the studies are unbiased, since stats are from west🌚
ORF completely funded by Reliance once upon a time, still makes sure that Government must be praised at all costs.
Great session !