Whoa Nelley, B4C and it's over for thee. Triple R Auto Sales is still there and has two buildings, across the street from each other. I'm going to say that one of them was a dealership at one time and the other was probably a gas station. I like those older buildings like that. They have character. Yes, the B4C was a Special Service Package available on 1991 and up Camaros. It was available on 3rd generation cars in 1991-1992 and for the entire fourth generation run from 1993 to 2002. There are various videos on You Tube of older police chase footage with B4C Camaros. We got the VIN, we win: 2G1 for Canadian made Chevrolet, FP22 for Camaro Sport Coupe, P for 5.7L V8 with MFI, aka RPO code "LT1", 2 is a check digit, V for the 1997 model year, 2 for St. Therese Quebec, Canada assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The St. Therese plant operated from 1966 to 2002 and then closed with the end of the 4th generation F body cars. We got the SPID, glad you did: AM3 for lumbar massage controls, AK5 for driver and passenger air bag system, AR9 for reclining front bucket seats, AU0 for keyless entry fob system, AU3 for power locks, A31 for power windows, A90 for power deck release, B4C for Special Service Package, B84 for body side moldings, C49 for rear defogger, C60 for air conditioning, DG7 for dual electric mirrors, DL5 for roadside decal, FE2 for ride and handling package, FE9 for Federal emission system, GAM for government vehicle, G80 for limited slip differential, GU5 for 3.23 rear end ratio, J65 for four wheel disc brakes, KG9 for 140 amp alternator, K34 for cruise control, LT1 for 5.7L V8, MX0 for automatic transmission, merchandising option, M30 for 4L60E electronic four speed overdrive automatic transmission, aka "electronic THM350", NF2 for Tier 1 Federal emissions, NK3 for simulated leather wrapped padded steering wheel, NW9 for traction control, N96 for 16x8 cast aluminum wheels, QLC for P245/50Z16 tires, STE for St. Therese, Quebec Canada assembly, T82 for automatic on/off headlamp control, T96 for fog lamps, UA6 for theft deterrent system, UB3 for oil, coolant temperature, volts, tachometer and trip odometer gauge package, UM6 for AM-FM stereo radio with cassette and clock, UQ0 for standard four speaker system, U73 for fixed antenna, VK3 for front license plate bracket, VM3 for consumer label information (bumper standards, 5 MPH crash rating, etc.), V73 for US/Canada vehicle statement, 13U for Sebring Silver exterior paint, 14I for Light Gray interior trim, 14B for Gray interior trim, 1AA for sales incentive, retail amenities delete (probably due to being a government vehicle), 1SA for sales package, 1SZ for package options, 1FP87 for Chevrolet (1) Camaro Sport (FP) Coupe (87), among other codes. No, the B4C "deletes" the Z-28-isms in a way but retains the good stuff. That was the beauty of buying one of them. The "30th" embroidery in the rear seats is the 30th anniversary notation of the Camaro (1967 to 1997). Whoa Nelley, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? This car could have put you in the pokey, now it looks very hokey. That's it, time to quit. 4th gen has met the end. LT1 and it's done. Sold used by Triple R and not going very far. Chevy looking kinda heavy. F body is very shoddy. Going to be flat and that's that. G80 and gotta go. We got the VIN, and we win. We got the SPID and we're glad you did. Going to get squished and many here, perhaps Benny but only slightly so with the Google Man are going to be pissed.
@@petevise That would be an accurate statement if you had a clue what you were talking about, which you don't. Which GM engine and transmission usage charts did you help write? (I hear you say "None"). I did the 17F and 22F ones for starters, how about you? Do you know what 17F and 22F are? (You do now, because you had to Google it. Something you wouldn't have to do if you helped with writing it). What OEM supplier did you work for? (Newsflash, you didn't). You can "read" a VIN and a SPID, but can you decode them without looking them up? No, you can't. I can. Plus, if you do have to look them up (which you do, because keyboard commandos like you fold like a cheap suit when confronted), you'd be using documents that I helped write. That's the difference. Sit back and relax. You might learn something. Any other questions?
@neilbrown82 the lt1 holds the world record for the fastest gm six speed car running 6’s. Someone took a 1997 Camaro with the ole lt1 and made history with it proving the true potential the engine has.
According to the Camaro white book 253 B4C's for 1997. What's interesting about this one is the "GAM" option code. That designates a governmental agency. DEA, FBI or other...
Back in the day I owned a '93 LT1 Camaro with the ultra rare "1LE" option. It was #09 of a total of 17 produced. It was a 6-speed manual bare bones car; hardtop, cloth interior, manual seats and locks. Came from the factory with stiffer springs and sway bars among a few other things.
I still don't know why whole non-wrecked rare cars like this end up in a salvage yard because of drivetrain failures. Thanks for pointing out the codes to look for.
Don't get the money part either. It would fetch more selling on the used market as a project. Honestly desert shells fetch a good bit more in salt states. Just makes no sense
I noticed the speedo did not seem to say, "Certified Calibration." It also seems in pretty nice shape for having led life as a cop car. Could a civilian have ordered a B4C? Maybe somebody that wanted a Z28, but did not want the look of one?
That's thing still has some nice parts on it like the 323 limited slip rear. Also did you get a look at what those rear shocks were. there red I'm used to OEM shocks being always black unless you got some special option like bilstein's or something
That code came to mind in your last video when you mentioned the 9C1 in your last video. I remember first reading about these in magazines in the mid-late 90s. Mind you, that would've been the turd gen.
Yes, the B4C was also available in the late 3rd generation cars (1991-1992 only) as well as from 1993-2002 on the 4th generation cars. If you read the magazine in the mid to late 1990s, that would have already been the 4th generation (which started in 1993 and ran through 2002).
I'm a ford guy and feel this. I have a 74 Maverick Grabber. PS, Disc, AC, auto idle kickdown, seatbelt interlock, AM/FM, trim rings and hub caps, V8/C4 medium bright blue metallic with medium blue interior and a bench seat. ordered with that because the guy who owned it bought it new for himself as a retirement gift and had a bad back. Of the 13,000 Grabbers made in 74' 13 came with this package and color combo. I paid 2,800 and it had 99,412 miles on it from his widow. I also collect antique firearms and indeed rare doesn't mean valuable. I do hope that Camaro gets saved.
@@ClassicRideSociety They don't get the credit they deserve. They were one of the first to have the seat belt interlock. You didn't lock your seat belt in, car didn't start. It was easily defeated by unplugging the computer under the seat and inserting a paperclip.... Such as mine.
4th gen prices will skyrocket in another 10 years. So many are being sold dirt cheap, parted out, or scrapped. It's the same cycle the 3rd gens went through
Somebody should have saved that car what a shame!! Hey Benny it's Santino let me know how you want to work this out with the transaction on the rear sway bar for the crown Vic I would appreciate that. I got your message about a day or two ago Benny that you found a rear sway bar. 🇺🇲 🏁 😎 🏁
Rare car, unfortunately some 4th gens aren’t getting the love yet. The LT1 cars especially - everyone wants the LS1 ‘98-02’s. I own a rare ‘99 Z28, 1 of 45 “test” cars painted Monterey Maroon Metallic before introducing the color for the 2000 model year. Rare car, but not valuable because of it.
True everyone wanted the LS1 but you can't compare the low end grunt of the LT1 and of course it sounded better, I had a 95 back in the day with a 6 spd
In good shape I'm sure that would be valuable, especially being a Texas car. I'd say it's worth saving, maybe turn it into a race car but keep it alive at least.
The cluster maybe because it has a tach and it's a V8 car. But maybe they all had that. My yard got a real Z28 I think, it had white face gauges, I made some money on that cluster. Same as this, showed up engine all torn apart.
Historically, I'm not a huge fan of this generation of Camaro (would rather have a Mustang of this era haha), but now I'm starting to warm up to these. I prefer Pontiac's version. But hey, you don't see these as nearly as you used to. I remember seeing some during high school. But when I recently drove pass the same school, NONE of these were parked at the student parking lot. NONE. Just a bunch of SUVS, trucks, and late 2000s meh cars with an exception of a hatchback or a mini-truck
I agree. But when I see the LT1 under the hood and no Z28 emblems anywhere followed by no Z28 rpo code on the door sticker, it struck me as odd. Someone in a past video explained why this particular car was void of the z28 emblems
Body is fairly straight but 4th gens are just cars I had a 97 z28 slp pkg and I got in trade on an iroc I sold nice car but I may be off I like the 94 and 95 v6 camaro better than a z28. One day this car could be worth $25k I never like seeing camaros junked unless totalled but I know we can't save all classics and she is already a classic
Nothing about that gen camaro amuses me 😂 just like a geo storm big brother , in fact I think I would rather have a geo storm . at least they are all metal. No plastic fantastic camaro ! 👎 never be collectible anyone that pays big money for one of these is goofy not to mention they are a death trap with the fuel lines running over the top of the front wheel well, most stupid design ever on any thing , that's why you never see these with front impacts in the yards cause they most all catch fire if hit hard in the front !
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Whoa Nelley, B4C and it's over for thee.
Triple R Auto Sales is still there and has two buildings, across the street from each other. I'm going to say that one of them was a dealership at one time and the other was probably a gas station. I like those older buildings like that. They have character. Yes, the B4C was a Special Service Package available on 1991 and up Camaros. It was available on 3rd generation cars in 1991-1992 and for the entire fourth generation run from 1993 to 2002. There are various videos on You Tube of older police chase footage with B4C Camaros.
We got the VIN, we win: 2G1 for Canadian made Chevrolet, FP22 for Camaro Sport Coupe, P for 5.7L V8 with MFI, aka RPO code "LT1", 2 is a check digit, V for the 1997 model year, 2 for St. Therese Quebec, Canada assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The St. Therese plant operated from 1966 to 2002 and then closed with the end of the 4th generation F body cars.
We got the SPID, glad you did: AM3 for lumbar massage controls, AK5 for driver and passenger air bag system, AR9 for reclining front bucket seats, AU0 for keyless entry fob system, AU3 for power locks, A31 for power windows, A90 for power deck release, B4C for Special Service Package, B84 for body side moldings, C49 for rear defogger, C60 for air conditioning, DG7 for dual electric mirrors, DL5 for roadside decal, FE2 for ride and handling package, FE9 for Federal emission system, GAM for government vehicle, G80 for limited slip differential, GU5 for 3.23 rear end ratio, J65 for four wheel disc brakes, KG9 for 140 amp alternator, K34 for cruise control, LT1 for 5.7L V8, MX0 for automatic transmission, merchandising option, M30 for 4L60E electronic four speed overdrive automatic transmission, aka "electronic THM350", NF2 for Tier 1 Federal emissions, NK3 for simulated leather wrapped padded steering wheel, NW9 for traction control, N96 for 16x8 cast aluminum wheels, QLC for P245/50Z16 tires, STE for St. Therese, Quebec Canada assembly, T82 for automatic on/off headlamp control, T96 for fog lamps, UA6 for theft deterrent system, UB3 for oil, coolant temperature, volts, tachometer and trip odometer gauge package, UM6 for AM-FM stereo radio with cassette and clock, UQ0 for standard four speaker system, U73 for fixed antenna, VK3 for front license plate bracket, VM3 for consumer label information (bumper standards, 5 MPH crash rating, etc.), V73 for US/Canada vehicle statement, 13U for Sebring Silver exterior paint, 14I for Light Gray interior trim, 14B for Gray interior trim, 1AA for sales incentive, retail amenities delete (probably due to being a government vehicle), 1SA for sales package, 1SZ for package options, 1FP87 for Chevrolet (1) Camaro Sport (FP) Coupe (87), among other codes. No, the B4C "deletes" the Z-28-isms in a way but retains the good stuff. That was the beauty of buying one of them. The "30th" embroidery in the rear seats is the 30th anniversary notation of the Camaro (1967 to 1997).
Whoa Nelley, bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? This car could have put you in the pokey, now it looks very hokey. That's it, time to quit. 4th gen has met the end. LT1 and it's done. Sold used by Triple R and not going very far. Chevy looking kinda heavy. F body is very shoddy. Going to be flat and that's that. G80 and gotta go. We got the VIN, and we win. We got the SPID and we're glad you did. Going to get squished and many here, perhaps Benny but only slightly so with the Google Man are going to be pissed.
You have waaaaay to much time on your hands
@@johncholmes643 Or a lot more knowledge than you it seems.
@googleusergp he probably meant your weird attempt at story telling while rhyming since pretty much anyone can read a vin or RPO codes....
@@petevise That would be an accurate statement if you had a clue what you were talking about, which you don't. Which GM engine and transmission usage charts did you help write? (I hear you say "None"). I did the 17F and 22F ones for starters, how about you? Do you know what 17F and 22F are? (You do now, because you had to Google it. Something you wouldn't have to do if you helped with writing it). What OEM supplier did you work for? (Newsflash, you didn't).
You can "read" a VIN and a SPID, but can you decode them without looking them up? No, you can't. I can. Plus, if you do have to look them up (which you do, because keyboard commandos like you fold like a cheap suit when confronted), you'd be using documents that I helped write. That's the difference. Sit back and relax. You might learn something.
Any other questions?
@@petevise basically
In 1997 they made 253 B4C "Special Service Package" Camaros. In essence, it is a Z28 without the badges. Same 285HP as any other LT1!
Ya it's an Lt1 nowonder it's in the junkyard
Where did you get that info from from?
That's 255 to many !!
@neilbrown82 the lt1 holds the world record for the fastest gm six speed car running 6’s. Someone took a 1997 Camaro with the ole lt1 and made history with it proving the true potential the engine has.
According to the Camaro white book 253 B4C's for 1997. What's interesting about this one is the "GAM" option code. That designates a governmental agency. DEA, FBI or other...
Back in the day I owned a '93 LT1 Camaro with the ultra rare "1LE" option. It was #09 of a total of 17 produced. It was a 6-speed manual bare bones car; hardtop, cloth interior, manual seats and locks. Came from the factory with stiffer springs and sway bars among a few other things.
I still don't know why whole non-wrecked rare cars like this end up in a salvage yard because of drivetrain failures. Thanks for pointing out the codes to look for.
Time and money, the death of many projects like this.
Money and mechanical issues
Don't get the money part either. It would fetch more selling on the used market as a project. Honestly desert shells fetch a good bit more in salt states. Just makes no sense
Because people are lazy. Easier to buy a new car than figure out the problem and a solution for it.
@@swappedoutZ71 Yeah its a throwaway society these days
Mr. B. Here ! So very very few with that package, drove impala with that package kick-a-s ! That is a factory hot rod, that vehicle should
Thanks for showing this old dog some respect! I still drive my 95 Z28 6-speed convertible purchased in Fort Worth with over 200K miles daily!
I had the 97 B4C that was a GAM federal contract code. It was a USAF U2 chase car.
Thanks for going back and checking it out. I also noticed and commented it was a B4C car.
I have a 97 camaro love all the years and gens trans am too
I noticed the speedo did not seem to say, "Certified Calibration." It also seems in pretty nice shape for having led life as a cop car. Could a civilian have ordered a B4C? Maybe somebody that wanted a Z28, but did not want the look of one?
LT-1's rule! Wish my 95 wagon had a 6 speed!
It’s nothing special except that it was a fleet car. It’s an iron headed LT1. So extra unsprung weight.
That's thing still has some nice parts on it like the 323 limited slip rear. Also did you get a look at what those rear shocks were. there red I'm used to OEM shocks being always black unless you got some special option like bilstein's or something
Pretty sure they were all were red my 97 base model had same ones as well as my 2002 t/a
That code came to mind in your last video when you mentioned the 9C1 in your last video. I remember first reading about these in magazines in the mid-late 90s. Mind you, that would've been the turd gen.
Yes, the B4C was also available in the late 3rd generation cars (1991-1992 only) as well as from 1993-2002 on the 4th generation cars. If you read the magazine in the mid to late 1990s, that would have already been the 4th generation (which started in 1993 and ran through 2002).
Still worth fixing up
I'm a ford guy and feel this. I have a 74 Maverick Grabber. PS, Disc, AC, auto idle kickdown, seatbelt interlock, AM/FM, trim rings and hub caps, V8/C4 medium bright blue metallic with medium blue interior and a bench seat. ordered with that because the guy who owned it bought it new for himself as a retirement gift and had a bad back. Of the 13,000 Grabbers made in 74' 13 came with this package and color combo. I paid 2,800 and it had 99,412 miles on it from his widow. I also collect antique firearms and indeed rare doesn't mean valuable. I do hope that Camaro gets saved.
I had a 74 Maverick as well years ago. Not a grabber but it did have the 302/c4
@@ClassicRideSociety They don't get the credit they deserve. They were one of the first to have the seat belt interlock. You didn't lock your seat belt in, car didn't start. It was easily defeated by unplugging the computer under the seat and inserting a paperclip.... Such as mine.
Cool, The NCHP used to have some of these in the early 2000's 🥰
I'm in NC, sadly never saw anything other than charger, crown vic, tahoe as marked highway patrol cars.
They actually only made 227 B4Cs in 1997. 😳
4th gen prices will skyrocket in another 10 years. So many are being sold dirt cheap, parted out, or scrapped. It's the same cycle the 3rd gens went through
Somebody should have saved that car what a shame!! Hey Benny it's Santino let me know how you want to work this out with the transaction on the rear sway bar for the crown Vic I would appreciate that. I got your message about a day or two ago Benny that you found a rear sway bar. 🇺🇲 🏁 😎 🏁
Send me your contact info. benny807362@gmail.com
Rare car, unfortunately some 4th gens aren’t getting the love yet. The LT1 cars especially - everyone wants the LS1 ‘98-02’s. I own a rare ‘99 Z28, 1 of 45 “test” cars painted Monterey Maroon Metallic before introducing the color for the 2000 model year. Rare car, but not valuable because of it.
True everyone wanted the LS1 but you can't compare the low end grunt of the LT1 and of course it sounded better, I had a 95 back in the day with a 6 spd
@@bobbylindvest9911 put 243 heads on the ls1 and it makes more grunt. Ls1 heads and intake was the downside of that engine. Ls6 is much better
Nice man wish it wasn't in the junkyard though
Those who Junked it probably didn't know what it was
True 👍
Chevy Camaro B4C special service police package could apprehend some of the biggest speeders of its day
in 10 to 15 years people are gonna freak out this one went to the scrappers when 4th gens become collector cars...
I could definitely see that
Hey Benni, could you tell me where that yard was that had that 4 door Cadillac. I believe it was a 83. Thx
BYOT in Elm Mott Texas
What a shame…it’s an F body Police Package…being rust free that’s a sad…sad ending. Thanks for sharing.
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In good shape I'm sure that would be valuable, especially being a Texas car. I'd say it's worth saving, maybe turn it into a race car but keep it alive at least.
The cluster maybe because it has a tach and it's a V8 car. But maybe they all had that.
My yard got a real Z28 I think, it had white face gauges, I made some money on that cluster. Same as this, showed up engine all torn apart.
Nice rare Camaro but those opti sparks and head gasket problems got me discouraged about them
Cool car. Like you said, almost everyone would just walk by thinking it is some stripper Camaro. Thanks for posting.
Historically, I'm not a huge fan of this generation of Camaro (would rather have a Mustang of this era haha), but now I'm starting to warm up to these. I prefer Pontiac's version. But hey, you don't see these as nearly as you used to.
I remember seeing some during high school. But when I recently drove pass the same school, NONE of these were parked at the student parking lot. NONE. Just a bunch of SUVS, trucks, and late 2000s meh cars with an exception of a hatchback or a mini-truck
Did anyone ever listen to Lee Dorsey in that B4C.😊
Total of 66 were made for the feds with this GAM code. I bought one and sent it to Germany and it was part of US Border patrol in Buffalo NY.
Would be a good drag car build
Yea that is a z28 just dont have the emblems
Correct, a "de-contented Z-28".
Cluster is worth some $$$
A very rare police edition, I remember seeing lots of 4th gen f bodies at the factory in Montreal in the late 90s
I have a 1991 B4C. 305 5S.
Beauty
being a police car severely negatively affects the value.
SAVED !
was it a one wheel peel rear end
It had the g80 rpo code for the limited slip rear end
No, it was a limited slip (RPO code G80 on the tag) and a 3.23 rear end ratio (RPO code GU5 on the tag).
@@ClassicRideSociety what wrecking yard is that 83 Cadillac in
First off no emblems on a 25 year old car isn’t out of the question especially if it had a maaco paint job
I agree. But when I see the LT1 under the hood and no Z28 emblems anywhere followed by no Z28 rpo code on the door sticker, it struck me as odd. Someone in a past video explained why this particular car was void of the z28 emblems
@@ClassicRideSociety Done on purpose to "decontent" the vehicle. Not needed and makes it look just like a V6 sport coupe.
Body is fairly straight but 4th gens are just cars I had a 97 z28 slp pkg and I got in trade on an iroc I sold nice car but I may be off I like the 94 and 95 v6 camaro better than a z28. One day this car could be worth $25k I never like seeing camaros junked unless totalled but I know we can't save all classics and she is already a classic
Yes rare doesn't mean valuable I had a hugger orange 1999 v6 rs camaro nobody cared obviously because it wasn't a H.O.S.S
But no t-bird 🙈
That 'bird would be a turd.
Old FBI vehicle possibly? 😁
Never know
pull the speedo out of it
Darn shame.
Nothing about that gen camaro amuses me 😂 just like a geo storm big brother , in fact I think I would rather have a geo storm . at least they are all metal. No plastic fantastic camaro ! 👎 never be collectible anyone that pays big money for one of these is goofy not to mention they are a death trap with the fuel lines running over the top of the front wheel well, most stupid design ever on any thing , that's why you never see these with front impacts in the yards cause they most all catch fire if hit hard in the front !
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to new for me. I don't think that thing even has a forged steel crank in it ! like the real LT-1s 69 to 72
LT-1 didn't start until 1970, and those engines with their over-weight internals and choked up heads are junk compared to what's available today.
shame no rust at all on it anywhere