Deconstructing the Ten Commandments | A Perfect Moral Law?
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- Join me as I deconstruct the 10 Commandments from an ex-Christian perspective
Please keep in mind that all everything I say here is my subjective opinion, and is intended to deconstruct fundamentalist/evangelical/conservative Christian ideologies from an ex christian perspective
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Blaming and punishing children for the sins of their parents is the most vile form of primativism.
I don't know how someone can be all just and all merciful if they're punishing children for the actions of their parents
But in reality this happens every minute. For example. Parent speeds through a stoplight and gets a child killed. Who's at fault??? Parent does drugs and who gets affected by the sin of the parent. Use your brain. This girl I tell you.
@@bdazf150 Are you high right now?
@@bdazf150 A child being hurt by a neglectful parent is NOT the same thing as designing a legal system in which a parent committing a crime means a child is punished for it. I need you to try and use that tiny little peanut brain of yours
@bdazf150 What does it have to do with a deity that's supposed to be all good and just. But he seems to be a sadist and has a fetish for blood.
"Thou shall not enslave thy neighbor or anyone else" was one of my favorite commandments. Oh wait🤔
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Stop 😭 it's dangerous what you are doing
I'd rather ask my neighbor for help and pay them then enslave them, but that's just me.
@@JESUSGreatrThanPio-0LsThnJESUS Why is it dangerous. Is god's ego so fragile that it can't take some constructive criticism?
There are currently _legally_ 5 times more slaves in the USA today‡ than all the slaves - in total - in the entire history of all of North America.
.. But, you don't even care enough to know.. smh
_[edited] to add :_ ‡ no. not the news agency. sorry lol
My favorite commandment is “Thou Shalt not commit Genocide and War Crimes” lmfao💀💀💀
Totally. Because...land mass and geographic coordinates. 🙄
“No carving for you” I’m dying laughing
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So God is anti-art. He must really hate all those classic painters and sculptors of later ages.
_“No carving for you”_
That is as false as everything else presented in this video. The point of that prohibition comes right after it: 'You shall not bow down to them nor serve them.' This is not about 'art', which was part of the Tabernacle and Temple, which were artistic themselves. Art has a point (Aristotle agreed with this independently). That's the point. A better understanding of this would be 'you shall not make art that lies.' Not bad for 3000 years ago, and useful for today, too.
I remember going to Catholic CYC class and our teacher spent one entire session, trying to teach us the difference between killing and murder. “You see kids, if you kill someone just because you were mad at them or for no reason, that is MURDER, that is a massive no-no”. But then spent the rest of the class teaching us about God’s “righteous anger” and when he commanded people to kill others in the Bible, it was “killing” so God gave it the thumbs up. Classic retroactive continuity. So basically, anything goes, as long as you bend the knee to the right celestial King and he gives you the go ahead to take a life, because it magically goes from Murder to Killing. Even back then was I was still single digits old, I was already deconstructing my faith because of this one lesson.
Yes, you can find support in the Bible to carry out any evil deed. That's how Christians of the American southern states justified slavery, the same as many others have. The Klu Klux Klan at their foundation are a Christian religious group and have always used to Bible to justify their atrocities. In 1928, Adolf Hitler said: "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity. Our movement is Christian."
Yeah more or less like self defense to the wicked owes😂 but it seems like a contradiction
Murder is just killing that's against the law. And God can make up the laws so it doesn't stop him. So this law is nothing more then You shall not break the law, which is the most worthless law possible.
good people do good, bad people do bad, but it takes religion for good people to do bad.
Bible claims 4 millions killed, estimated 20 millions, unborn children, children, adolescents, men, women, justified? Helllll not!
My parents definitely didn't deserve to be honored. You know what drives me crazy is people always say, "Did you look for your parents?" No one ever asks if my parents looked for me. Why is it my responsibility to search the world for my abusive parents who abandoned me and left me for dead as a kid? Is that a Christian thing? Because these people can't seem to fathom your parents can be bad people.
There are good parents and bad parents. Sorry to hear about your experience. Psalm 27:10>When my father and my mother forsake me, then the Lord will take me up. (Meaning that the Lord will not forsake you).
@@vadouis-rt3of He's been absent for 2,000 years, but go off I guess.
Sorry to hear about your parents. I hope you had good adoptive parents.
@@vadouis-rt3of How sweet your words. How useless they are to a child alone. How cruel you sound.
@@leyrua Please be so kind as to explain what you mean. I do not understand what you are trying to say. Much appreciated, thank you.
I have one commandment: If you can help, help; if you cannot help, don’t hurt.
YES!!!
this encompasses everything, from theft to rape and murder and everything in between. It's awesome.
Its a shame humanity hasnt moved past its man made gods and religions. I appreciate you sharing your deconversion and your criticism of Christianity. Thank you for being a voice of reason!
Not explicitly forbidding rape is horrible.
Treating rape as a property crime is even worse.
Which has nothing to do with the ten commandments.
Rape is outlawed in the Torah. It doesn't have to be in the Ten Commandments.
@@craigsmith1443 The only verse I know of setting a law against rape, is Deuteronomy 22:28. which is exactly what I was alluding to in my comment. And from what I understand, there's is debate as to whether that is even speaking of rape specifically.
If there is another verse you mean, perhaps you could cite it for me?
Most of the times the bible speaks on the subject, it looks to me that the issue is more that a woman's purity or virginity has been lost. The trauma of being raped doesn't seem prioritized at all.
@@craigsmith1443 But Jeebus died for our sins and with it brought a new Covenant (you know, New Testament vs the Old Testament) and thus kinda abolishing the old one, the Torah.
The literal definition of "rape" is "theft," as evidenced by Alexander Pope, among other examples of 18h-century literature.
If you need to be explicitly forbidden to rape to keep you from raping, then you have problems that commandments aren't going to help...
Your content is criminally undervalued by the algorithm gods. Your presentation is firm but not condescending. Delivery is that of chatting with an honest friend, which includes respect and vulnerability (from you and your viewers). I truly appreciate your commentary, experience and willingness to share.
Thank you so much ☺️ that means a lot!
Have to agree 👍 💯
my computer algorithm wont allow me to say mormon/Or g o d/ - recovering from LD$/FLD$/RLD$ and now CLD$. I found Kristie and hope to inspire others from the PTSD of religions of USA
Completely agree. I watch these like a friend just came over to have a cup of coffee and talk about “stuff”.
Awe - I loved this- Many Thanks
This is the best deconstruction of the commandments I have seen. I love the comparison of the 7 tenants with the 10!
Why would anyone but an idiot want to "deconstruct" commandments that represent a far better quality of life than we see from the alternative? People doing whatever they want an hang the consequences. This is the worst kind of selfish liberalism with no consideration of any of the victims.
loved this video! I found your channel a few weeks ago, but have just been able to start catching up on the previous videos. Keep up the good work!
Funny in the years I was a follower of Ray Comfort style evangelism. I never once asked myself "why am I only asking people 3-4 of the Ten Commandments". I never once asked a stranger if they "worked on a Saturday" for example.
That's Seventh Day Adventist bread and butter, lol.
Ray was trying to show that obaying the tencomanment wont save any one only fath in Jesus saves
Well simple. Although the ten commandments were the law that one should have followed back then that changed after the new testament. In the New Testament one of the only commandments not repeated is the one to keep the sabbath holy.
@@chubbyclub2502jesus himself said he did not come to change the law, so by his own word you should still be following all the laws given in the old testament
@@TFStudios
I literally just got done explaining this to a Muslim a few days ago.
The verse you are referring to is
"Do not think I came to abolish the law but to fulfill the law. " Or something like that' I"m reciting from memory. That verse is one of the reasons we don't follow the Old Testament. Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament and now we no longer need to follow it. He wasn't bringing a brand new religion and saying, "I'm here to abolish the religion Judaism. " He came and fulfilled the Old Covenant and brought in the New covenant so that the law would be written in our hearts.
This aligns with other verses where He makes additions to the Old Covenant. Again I'm reciting this from memory but there was a time where He said, " The law says to you'thou shalt not murder', but I say to you that one who hates one to the point of wishing him dead has broken this. "
I forget where that's found so I likely messed up that verse but they mean the same thing.
One thing I've never understood about Christianity is that jealousy is a deadly sin, yet the biblical god says numerous times that he is a jealous god. If we were made "in his image," wouldn't that make us inherently jealous?!?!
Can a husband be jealous for his wife in a good way? Can a friend be jealous of their promotion in a good way? Is it possible?
@vadouis-rt3of It seems to me that god's jealousy would be akin to a husband's jealousy of his wife. He's jealous of us 'cheating' on him with other gods as a husband would be jealous of his cheating wife...
@@vadouis-rt3of If nobody was ever envious of anyone else you would not live in a functional country, people need to be envious or nobody will ever work or try and improve anything.
At least wives can see their husbands.
And see where their belt is, too (especially when drunk)
In 2 Samuel 24 - could, 70,000 Hebrews... do that?
And who was jeopardizing them, that day? King David? Hardly... not, to that, degree.
Also, why is Satan owed, doodly, squat?
Post exile.@@vadouis-rt3of
Yes, Yahweh was a jealous God, but many ppl do not know that he was only the God of three races; those he genetically created. Yahweh was not the God of every race. That is why there was so many battles and k*llings of innocent ppl bc those other ppl were not under his rule. In short, the Ten Commandments was not meant for everyone just those under Yahweh.
I love the way you broke it down.... your speaking the questions I always asked myself....loved this 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Kristie, I just recently ran across you and your channel in the last couple of days and I am really enjoying it and your growth and the observations your growth is bringing about. Thank you for sharing your journey of emotional awakening with us. (Pardon the negative connotations the world has currently assigned to being "awoke" in today's political mentality.) Your growth as an awakened adult is enjoyable to celebrate with you. Especially for many of us who had to go through much of the same journey of growth. Congratulations! Keep growing...and keep sharing. You are truly becoming a fully alive and enjoyable adult human being. 😊
Don't forget the second set of 10 commandments (that are somehow different than the first)- it has the most important one: "You shall not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk" All commandments should include valuable cooking tips.
PS - Thanks for including the seven tenets - though they were so evil and demonic I feel like I needed to take a shower after hearing them.
Moses started with 12 commandments and dropped two of them. The two "stones" are the male testifiers.
That's not even the second set. That set of 10-13 (depending on how you count?) is the only place in the Bible where it names those the 10 commandments. It is the first and only set as declared by the Bible itself. Remember: the "chapter titles" that are in most Bibles today are not in the original texts.
@@Reiryuu
The jealous one was Juno (Iuno) and she is the wife side of God. One of her signs is the dove and she is also the famous Jonah (Ionah). Like the sun, she migrates south for winter and north for summer.
God is Satan.
That is the biggest trick Satan played upon humanity!
*Tenets
George Carlin broke this down pretty effectively once also. Great job Kristi! Keep it up.
Thou shall keep thy religion to thyself lol
Wasn't it "Don't be an asshole"?
George Carlin was my first thought too !
@@helen5118 SAME!
> “Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.
>And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
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> But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”
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> ― George Carlin
I had never considered analyzing the ten commandments. Thank you so much for shining a light on how incredibly problematic it is.
She is amazing! Maybe there were men who kept diaries (now known with poetic verses) Maybe there was one who performed "a miracle" known in those days, maybe he was hung on a cross (as thousands were) Lots of possibilities but none making sense to us all (women & children included) for 2025
They have a new revised version with only two now.
“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind .’This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself."
The clean version of George Carlin of stand up. 😊thanks
I wish I'd had someone like you to talk to when I was a kid and questioning all this stuff. Every time I'd ask "why does it say this, how does this make sense" the Sunday School teacher would just have the whole class pray for me 😂
They pray for you because they, whether they realize it or not, know that if you're questioning religion in any way you're just one step shy of becoming an atheist. This terrifies them because they've had blind obedience hammered into their heads for so long. Religion requires people to not think in order for anyone to follow it.
Yeah it's 100% a shame tactic, next step is shunning @@fieldspring5329
@@fieldspring5329 it's what happened to me when I brought up Dinosaurs.. Good grief that blew things up.
@@immortalfrieza _This terrifies them because they've had blind obedience hammered into their heads for so long. Religion requires people to not think in order for anyone to follow it._
You should explain how you can read the minds of those who lived far away and years ago. It sounds like a superpower. How did you get it? Historians would pay you much for this ability.
@@williamkincaid3465 _ it's what happened to me when I brought up Dinosaurs_
If you haven't discussed it since then, your experience is too limited to be useful. One data point does not a conclusion make.
Every religion has a set of these and they usually just recycle from the ones that come before.
Jesus loves you wake up ✝️
This is extremely reasonable! Thanks for making this presentation!
Brilliant! You’ve helped me so much get past My psychological trauma from over 50 years out Christianity!
I’m not exaggerating btw!
Rape in the Christian church. I was raped by my boyfriend. I begged him to stay with me. He broke up with me, saying he couldn't be the man God called him to be when he was with me because I was too attractive.
I was afraid to tell my family because then they would know I wasn't a virgin anymore.
Such shame, hypocrisy, and trauma inflicted and perpetuated by the purity culture.
I'm really sorry that happened to you and I hope you've found so much peace and healing in your life.
I am so very sorry. Much LOVE. I was sexually abused the first ten years of my life. I believed god HATED me because I wouldn't be a virgin on my wedding night. I hate Christianity. It is extremely damaging & life ruining.
@@kaylandry3142There is no way God would hate you for that, you were just a victim
That's horrifying! I hope you're doing okay. I also hope your POS ex gets what's coming.
But so were 70,000 people in 2 Samuel 24, practically.
So - go, figure...?
Also - Achan's daughters, in law...?@@najibali788
I spent twelve years with the Jesuits, had religion classes three times a week, went to mass every day, had to get my "mass card" signed by the priest on Sundays (who would otherwise believe a Catholic boy?). I still remember tons of prayers in Latin ... I am now 77 and more atheist than Belzebuth. I like to love myself, my neighbor. I like to be helpful, generous, and kind... because I want to be so, not because an old vengeful and angry old fart told me so. And certainly not because a "know everything" priest or pastor (usually judgmental and intolerant) wants to organize my life, or my after life, telling me what is good or bad. It is pure religious schizophrenia. BTW. I am thanking God every day for being an atheist 🙂.
Lol damn. I went to Catholic school and I had to get my card signed every Sunday too
If your an atheist, how can you thank God every day? God does not exist, according to you.
I was also 'raised by catholic monks'... when I saw the funny clip from Louis CK on what the catholic church is all about, it was like a documentary...
@@vadouis-rt3of Its an expression, do try and keep up
@@xXEGPXx So your not an atheist?
I’ve never heard someone go through the Ten Commandments this way I loved it, thanks!
Kristi did do a great job, also look for Christopher Hitchens re-writing the ten commandments.
@@steveswangler6373 Neither one of them understood the Ten Commandments, but if you like hearing preaching to the choir, go ahead.
The devil always attempts to distort God's Word. Prophecy is coming to pass....Satan will lead soooooo many fools to hell.
@@steveswangler6373 There's an even better video you ought to see called "Ayaan Hirsi Ali Says Christianity Is SUPERIOR to Atheism? And That Dawkins Is Christian?: th-cam.com/video/g9WS6LC2CM8/w-d-xo.html
You are a real good teacher ,
This was a good break down .
Somethings I never cought.
Jesus loves you come back to him ✝️
Speaking of rape, you could really do an entire video just on critiquing what the Bible has to say about rape.
Dammmmm I wonder about insane Islamic commandments tooo😭😭😭
A fool know not to rape someone, only a fool would would think God is Ok with that. God hates sin.
@@darryldavis436 Wrong. The Bible clearly condones Israelite soldiers claiming female captives of war as wives and forcing them into marriage and having sex with them, all without their consent. Moses once even specifically instructs the soldiers to kill all their nonvirgin female captives and keep the virgins and little girls for themselves. That's rape. The Law of Moses also gives a man the authority to sell his daughter into slavery as a concubine, or sex slave, to another man for money. Not to mention the verse that says that a man that rapes an unmarried virgin must pay a fee to her father and then marry the woman and can never divorce her, while the rapist of a married woman is executed. God clearly cares less about rape than he does about fathers getting their betrothal value out of their daughters.
The Bible states the rapist must pay the victim's father. Apparently a woman is only damaged property in the bible.
@@ohmyskill2847Yes, both Christianity and Islam fail horribly when it comes adressing rape. Not surprising, as they both come from the same root.
I think that one way to stop the Ten Commandments from being posted around courthouses and schools is easy. Require that if the Ten Commandments are posted, the entire text has to be posted. No editing.
Or post the "correct" set with the bit about not boiling a baby goat in its mother's milk.
It is the government's endorsement of a religion, pure and simple.
Every word of this has gone through my mind for a long and exhausting time.
Your articulation is insightful and appreciated. Thank you.
My new favorite channel. Thank you so much!!!
It's indeed funny how many Christians think the 10 commandments are a slam dunk and something that even non-Christians would have to appreciate. Shows how few people actually look at them.
Well your conscience will tell you so. Those moral laws are written on it. (Romans 2:15)
@@christophergibson7155nope, morality is a product of empathy, something we evolved to have
@@Emily.545 We did not evolve. We were created. And no, morality is not a product of empathy. The Word of God is clear. Morality comes from God alone. "who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)"
(Romans 2:15) And again speaking of those who harden themselves to the truth..."speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron," (1 Timothy 4:2)
@@christophergibson7155 no, we can demonstrate the truth of human evolution, the same can't be said of god
@@Emily.545 No one can demonstrate the truth of human evolution. It is not even a science. It can not be observed or experimentally repeated. There are absolutely no transitional species, and there never will be.
Even Darwin stated the fact of the missing link. And it is still missing. Darwin's study of the finches was an experiment in adaptation, not one species changing into another. The proof and evidence for God is everywhere. You know God exists as the Holy scriptures say, but you suppress the truth in your unrighteousness. (Romans 1:18) You have two natural lights given to you to prove the existence of God.
1. All of creation 2. Your conscience. "The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork." (Psalm 19:1) "who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them). (Romans 2:15)
Reminds me of the after-church crowd getting huffy at me for working on a Sunday as they get groceries on a Sunday, therefore making me work on a Sunday
LOL!
Also, isn't grocery shopping a type of work?
@@findsharon
Yes. Even gathering sticks for a fire is "work".
The hypocrisy of Christians is all the evidence many people need to stay away from our religion. It's such a shame because we should be the nicest, least judgmental people on the planet.
The commands seem to be written by a 6 year old bully, who started writing his playground rules, then forced those he knew, to then help him with the rest of the list, because it simply wasn't long enough, and wanted to seem like a good writer. ☮
Fun fact: The entire concept of 'The 'TEN' Commandments" is a later invention, because you'll notice that the commandments aren't actually numbered in the text. Moreover, none of the scrolls that were edited together into what we now call 'The Bible' were written in chapters with verses. And to top it all off, ancient Hebrew had no punctuation marks. So it's entirely possible that what we call 'Commandments 6-9' are all actually clauses of a single sentence, split up into separate commandments to round the number up to an even 10:
"You shall not kill, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal (from,) 'Nor' shall you bear false witness against your neighbour."
Second Fun Fact: "Bear False Witness" doesn't mean lying, it means 'Commit Perjury.'
Speaking of not explaining what a sin actually is, you'd think that an omniscient God would spend literally 'ANY' time at all explaining the exact meaning of "Take The Lord's Name In Vain" when it's supposedly #TheUnforgivableSin which automatically condemns us to Hell so completely that not even accepting Christ in our Hearts can save us. (Yet another massive extrapolation of the absolute nothing that is actually explained in the Bible and on which different denominations of Christianity all violently disagree.)
Third Fun Fact: As you indicated yourself in the video, while giving Israelites a day off may sound benevolent, it's not actually a 'Day Off' at all! Instead, it's literally a dictator commanding his subjects to take an entire day out of every week to thank and praise him for letting them live, or he will kill them!
And in the end, all of this is merely dancing around the fundamental point that what we call "The 10 Commandments" were never intended to be the defining moral code of all people of all time. Because even if we say that there are ten of them, (which there aren't,) they are still only 10 of the 613 Jewish Laws listed in what Christians call "The Old Testament" which are all equally important! ...That's right, according to these laws, never eating shellfish, getting a tattoo or wearing mixed fabrics is just as important as never murdering anyone! (Unless you're stoning any rape victim who doesn't scream loud enough, your neighbour for working on the Sabbath, etc, etc, etc.)
Because ultimately, these were the terms of the Canaanite God Of War, Storms & Metal Work's 'Contract' (Covenant) with the Israelites; promising them protection from the invasions and natural disasters that would be inflicted upon them by the Gods of other tribes and nations such as Baal, Moloch & The Egyptian Gods (all of which are addressed as being real in the Bible) in exchange for sole worship, total obedience and burnt offerings. (It Was Literally A Protection Racket!)
Indeed, this is why (what we know as) "The First 4 Commandments" are devoted entirely to demanding sole worship. And therefore, why the Book Of Judges consists entirely of the Israelites breaking his laws, worshipping other Gods, being punished for it and God raising up a new 'Judge' (Tribal Leader) to try to lift his chosen people out of sin before giving up on the whole, doomed system and imposing a Monarchy. (My my! What an astounding co-ink-i-dink that the Israelite Kings who commissioned the compilation, editing and redaction of the books in question had a vested political interest in portraying the old, Tribal system as a blasphemous trainwreck and the Monarchy as the divinely ordained saviour of the people from the War & Storm God's wrath!) 😅
I had an apologist try to tell me that logic doesn't exist because atheists invented it 😂
"I love the poorly educated" = apologists.
@@okanudobassey9741 “It’s not a crime if the president or god did it”
- the not-authoritarians, supposedly 😂 lol
@@okanudobassey9741 poorly educated people are authoritarian governments favourite while critical thinking is the worst thing for authoritarian governments
I really want to know why the Ten Commandments doesn't say, "Thou shalt not cleave open the wombs of pregnant women with you swords." Oh, wait, it's because elsewhere, he told people conquering another people in his name to do exactly that, which was used as a specific excuse for Lebanese Christians who followed those words precisely when they attacked a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon (with the aid and support of Israeli soldiers) in the early 80s.
GOD love wars he do all these things.Said so himself. he gave life so he can take it when & how he wants..GOD also killed children because he's the Almighty
The references i can find are 2kings 8:12; 15:16; hosea 13:16; amos 1:13. None of them are god explicitly telling anyone to do it, though two of them are proclamations that it would happen, which could be interpreted as divine will.
15:58 That response is actually kinda correct. Women were the property of their husbands or fathers, so rape would be a property crime against the owner. I point this out clear that it's EVEN WORSE than Kristi suggests.
Excellent video! New sub. Currently binge watching your videos!
My young son came home from school and said " once a week i can take religious studies or an extra music class which one do i take? I said the local police station is based on the common commandments no need to go to church just stay out of the police station ...and the Extra music class is the go son ....hes a professional musician today 25 y.o.
Love this !! Wish I was that smart a mom !
“No carving for you.” “Don’t carve things.” Your inflection here literally made me lol😂
The word is graven. Graven images. Like the ones people formulate in their thinking. They are replacing God being first in their lives with themselves. Some examples of graven images are: self centeredness, self conceit, pride, beauty, superior education, love of money, secular humanism, etc...
@@christophergibson7155 great post but maybe put this in the main thread so it will be more easily seen by everyone. I was just commenting on her humor(:
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Kindergartener Christopath trying to teach adults. My boi just get lost and stop making an a$$ol of yourself.
@@christophergibson7155Graven means engraved. Kristi was not wrong. I find it hard to imagine the ancient writer intended to mean anything close to “secular humanism.”
@@davekoser3938 Graven or engraved is the same. In the Old Testament is implied a worship of other deities or false graven gods of wood, stone, or bronze. But in the New Testament Jesus took it to a much higher plain of understanding. Mankind makes graven or engraved images in their minds. They become their gods.
Anything or anyone that replaces or takes the place of The Lord Jesus Christ is a graven image today.
Keep up the good work Kristi.
Ily, and I love this video. This is the first I've seen from you. I was a Christian for 20+ years and moved on to other spiritual traditions. So to make a long story shorter I kinda love academic scholarship, and reading the Bible and trying to actually understand these passages as a historical thing. The juxtaposition of the 10 commandments and Satanism was amazing. Ty
OMG 😮I am totally floored. There’s no way I would have ever been exposed to the Tenets of the Satanic Temple. And here I am so grateful to you for bringing this to my attention. I want a poster, to put up on my wall, right next to the Ten Commandments. How incredibly ridiculous the Ten Commandments would look displayed next to the satanic tenets. W2G Kristi 👍🏻🏆
Totally agree, who knew the Satanic Temple tenants were that good 😅, they are!
And that's why I'm a big fan of Satanism.
Wasn't there a case where the 10 commandments had been placed in front of a courthouse and the satanic temple filed a lawsuit to either remove that or put up their commandments too (equality of religions)... I assume the christian leaders were too afraid others could read their commandments so they took their stone down. (To their congregation the explanation was naturally differently like "don't give the devil and space").... 😂
I'm a Christian, but the seven tenets have left me dumbfounded at the ten commandments. So I'm still going to suffer in hell for taking science as legit, huh?
The Jews lived in conflict with the Canaanite peoples and were at times engaged in hand to hand combat. That is a messy type of life which we probably are not aware of the implications of, except the CIA in this country tortures people or has done so. I could probably pick apart the satanic tenets the same way that she criticizes the 10 commandments.
Why doesn’t the satanic tenets denounce Aleister Crowley who is the leading satanist in the world. Why take on the name satanism and then claim your version of satanism is something different. The satanist in Boston had to tear up the Bible at their convention. I don’t think they would have torn up the Koran. Why is that ? If you feel a need to pick apart the Bible then why have you nothing to say about the Koran yet you have a problem because the 10 commandments left out something but have you left out something by not talking about the Koran ? You have not talked about the CIA or the FBI either
"Do not steal". In Les Miserables, Jean Valjean, the main character, spent 19 years in prison doing hard labor after he stole a loaf of bread to feed his widowed sister's starving family. And then 15-ish more years as a fugitive accused of stealing again even though the priest had given him his silver valuables to pay his way through after his release. Totally messed up man.
You do know that _Les Miserables_ is fiction, right?
@@craigsmith1443 do you know the themes in fiction reflect reality, right? it is not the same, but i'm from latin america and i once witnessed with my own eyes people beating up and almost linching a man after stealing, probably to feed himself or is family too, i saw the face of desperation directly in him.
@@crisvelundertale2159 _do you know the themes in fiction reflect reality, right?_
'Reflecting' is not 'revealing.' Everything that happens in fiction is at the beliefs of the author, which reality never is, so, no, 'fiction' does not 'reflect' reality. It depends on it, but it bends it so much that it is not reliable. That's the reason fiction is argued.
_i once witnessed with my own eyes people beating up and almost linching a man after stealing, probably to feed himself or is family too_
That was a mob. It was not a French policeman so without mercy that he commits suicide. Your equivalence is false, _Les Miserable_ is irrelevant.
Now, what was it that you really wanted to say? Can you say it without talking about fiction?
@@francelaferriere6106 _So is the Buybull_
That is an ignorant troll's comment. Say something substantive and true.
I love how genuine you have been in your videos, and despite the fact that you are not a scholar of sorts that you don't let that hinder you from expressing your thoughts and feelings about the Bible.
I do wonder if you'd put out a video of how you and your spouse have gotten through deconversion together.
I saw a video the other day. I big lion got bitten by a snake. After some time, the lion was all disoriented, started walking in circles, fall once ang got to his feet to only fall again and start convulsioning. Being the lion, the church, all powefull, migthy and full of resources, and bein knowledge, education, information the poison that eventually will kill the mounster institutions of religions. Ppl like you Kristi, contribute to this novel cause. Love your charm, flow of ideas, not overcharged languge, and knowledge of the subject. Cheers from Ecuador.
The satanic temple tenets come through morally superior to the bible commandments. Thank you for this great open minded deconstruction.
How many massacres, genocides, pogroms, infanticides has our Satan committed? None. But gawd, countless. All hail King Satan the rightful owner of entire earth.
Amen ;)
Don't believe all her stupid crap, Do you think it is better to worship the devil ? Don't be a fool. God is still the best choice.
They would infuriate the Christians, though..."compassion for people who aren't like us? Justice for people other than us? Women get to control their own bodies? BLASPHEMY! SOCIALISM! LIBERAL TALKING POINTS!!"
What was Satan's most egregious sin against God? Trying to be like God.
Understanding the real meaning to "Don't take the lord's name in vain" changed my mind on so many things, and really opened my eyes to grifting evangelists.
In mormonreligion a simple emoji - omg ~ Is a Serious Offense
You have a great channel, thank you!
I really appreciate that!
I love that you brought up the Satanic Temple tenets. I was fortunately introduced to them a few months ago but it blew my mind when I read them.
You and your channel are so refreshing. Especially since I grew up in the Bible belt being told I was gonna burn in hell every other day by a bunch of hypocrites. You hear that so much you figure out that you are in hell with these people😂 I think it's hilarious they want to put the ten commandments in court rooms. If you've ever been in a courtroom, there is so much bearing false witness, slander, lying and perjury going on by those people that have taken an oath on the Bible to tell the truth its outright blasphemy. The bible should be removed from the courtrooms because they're just a show. A trick. A prop.
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Hell isn’t eternal torment but eternal seperation
I'm assuming " God " was the authority at that time. Its bizarre that millions of 21st century people are basing their lives on a 2000 year old book...good video , Kristi.
Yeah, thou shall not kill is so archaic.
@@bdazf150 what about the whole “don’t boil a baby goat in its mother’s milk?” 21st century solid right?
@SPL0869 we got it much easier than that nowadays, I know. I can buy a meal at a gas station haha. Crazy how disconnected we've become by our modern conveniences. Imagine being that hungry.
God commands people to kill other people including their children and animals in the bible loads of time. I mean what the hell did the animals or kiddos do?
@@SPL0869 Crap, and I just got through boiling a baby goat in its mother's milk.
I just stumbled upon your work. Liked subscribed and hit the bell. Great job. Thank you for your time and efforts. This stuff is not easy. Editing alone was enough to make me tap out just a few videos into my TH-camr attempt. Congrats.
Excellent analysis, Kristi.
Agreed!!!
you touched on all of the points that I was going to bring pretty much
#1 the golden rule
*do not harm a child
*no rape
*no slavery
You must be kidding. There will be no more griftians should that become the norm.
Enjoying this as always! Keep these videos coming❤❤❤
Always glad to find people that question things.
I think questioning your beliefs is healthy. You either find out why you believe something or you realize that you need to dig into the subject more
I only just found this channel an hour ago or so, and have loved what I've seen so far. A super neat new way of looking at it all.
Especially love how Ray Comfort, the low-tier bananaman, responded to you. It says a lot.
Something I always struggled to understand, even when I was still a practicing Catholic, was how there'd be so many other things that were considered sins that aren't listed in the 10 Commandments.
The explanation I was given was that they somehow fit in under one of the 10 Commandments and/or were mentioned elsewhere in the Bible as being sins.
For instance I was told that swearing is a sin, and "Thou Shall not swear" is obviously not one of the 10, and I was also told that "giving myself satisfaction" (I dunno if il allowed to use the actual word on TH-cam) was a sin and not only that not it's a MORTAL sin.
Which to those that don't know, is a sin so bad that if you die without confessing to it and doing your penance for it then you're going straight to help regardless of what else You've done in your life. I honestly dunno if "self satisfaction" really is a mortal sin or not, but that's what I was told so I'd feel super guilty about it and want to confess to it asap all while feeling shame about even confessing it.
I was also told that taking communion with a mortal sin was also a mortal sin, which is something I'd often do because I didn't want my family knowing I had some something "bad enough" to preclude me from communion.
Also about the 1st Commandment about not having any other gods, I was told that it didn't just mean to literally not worship other gods but to also make sure that you put God above everything else in your life. Because if you give anything else more importance in your life then God then you've essentially made that your god. A common example I was given was the pursuit of wealth, if you care more about making money than God then you've made money your new god.
Yes, you'r allowed to use the word masturbation on TH-cam.
The funny thing is, the reason masturbation/sleeping with gay people was considered a sin is because they were weirdly obsessed with semen. They acted like it was worth more than gold. They weren't exactly educated so maybe they didn't know men basically have an infinite quantity of the stuff so they acted you had to make every ounce count. There were laws in some places forbidding sleeping with a "barren" woman or a woman on her period because then your precious precious man fluid would go to waste. LOL!
As for the first commandment, they lied about that. They pretend like Yahweh didn't originate from some minor warlord storm god in a pantheon of other gods. Yahweh never was the only god. He even had a wife at one point who got written out of the lore because they wanted to make the religious text to benefit men and dominate over women.
I once asked my mom about why if one of the 10 Commandments is "Thou shall not kill" then why do Christians go to war and kill other people? Her response was simply, "It doesn't count in times of war." LOL! Not much of a commandment if you can just break it whenever you feel like it.
I was never religious but recently looking back into Christianity, I find it hilarious how Yahweh breaks several commandments himself. No killing? Uhhhh, EPIC FAIL. No lying? FAIL. No adultery? He DID impregnate a married woman so.....FAIL!
Kristi, I'm really happy you break everything down. I've felt this way for ever, I was raised Southern Baptist. But never could wrap my head around these stories being real.
Your inability to understand does not make the stories false.
@craigsmith1443 but your inability to think for yourself says a lot more about you than you realize.
@@BeingTransInARedState _but your inability to think for yourself says a lot more about you than you realize._
Your inability to show that that is true says too much about you.
All you can do on your own thread is troll. Waste even of the space for a mind. Go find a friend that isn't plastic. It won't hurt, honest.
I am so glad I came across your channel. ❤❤❤ so well explained
I’m learning about the seven principles of Ma’at, and they seem far more useful then the 10 commandments.
The Tanakh (Old Testament) is 100% copied from Pagan myth and then corrupted. Ovid's Metamorphoses was a source of many bible stories.
This POS has the Roman God IU Piter as its supreme god. The bible is purely Roman and was designed for a minority to control the great majority.
Thanks for the new learning/ideas !
Yes Yahweh is more like a Intergalactic 2-year-old going through the terrible twos.
Exactly.
So says the sinner. And who are you in the light of your own sinful nature to judge God? That is just hypocrisy.
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There is no such thing as a sinner. That fabricated lie is only found in corrupted literature.
@@Josieb4008LOVE THIS COMMENT SO MUCH!!!
You make excellent points,id never thought of all. This before you pointed it out.thank you 💯
I read and studied the Bible so much, never really focused on the commandments this has been eye opening!
Awesome video, Kristi!!! All the best to you and your hubby!! 🙏
It would be interesting to do an experiment showing Christians the satanic tenets without telling them about it and ask to compare with the 10 commandments! And telling that Christian churches are planning to create a new moral code due to changing times!!
Ooo 👀 that would be really interesting
They will probably focus on the anti-LGBTQIA+ "clobber verses" (none of which are in the ten commandments).
I just found my newest favorite channel, I love how you break down all the verses and explain what it actually means .
Agree, short and clear. It's another good chanel on similar topics, truthswift. I love both 😊
But you're fooling yourself, this isn't truth. This is more twisted than challah bread
Explains what she *thinks* it means. Important distinction.
No. She twists to make it say something that it does not. Peter the Apostle warned the church of such people.
"which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures."
(2 Peter 3:16)
@@charmolypi999The bible is fricking clear enough though. If you read the Bible in an unbiased manner you’ll notice this god’s inconsistency and cruelty
That's a good t-shirt idea. Subbed. 😃
Hey Kristi, I love this and the comparison with the Tenets of the Satanic Temple. It showed an awesome contrast.
A different interpretation of "Don't take the Lord's name in Vain:" In another context, "in vain" means for no reason, purpose or end." I'm thinking in movies, the trope of someone dying and the hero says, "He shall not have died in Vain," like they will make the death meaningful. When they talk about not taking the Lord's name in Vain, they kind of mean don't use it loosely or without meaning, use it respectfully.
I've never heard this tale and I thought it was amazing. Thanks for sharing!
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I find myself looking forward to your videos every time!!! Amazing stuff! ❤
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I totally agree with you. Keep making this videos.
Thank you for your thoughtful entertaining content. Well done 🫶
There’s definitely one big problem associated with the Ten Commandments. The very people claiming to believe them and attempting to make them the standard for laws in the land have failed miserably at following them. Then their children and offspring express their jaded opinions of them and the mark, the commandments, are lost in shameful confusion. This generation faces its’ father’s sins, as they walk in his shoes better than he did.
Spying on allowed. And internationally war is allowed against other nations these laws don't expect to obey them. In war u kill and steal. Spies are supposed to steal from the enemy documents helping the war effort. And the only reason to honor ur parents is because u r Jewish and going to inherit the next land. But if u rnt Jewish these laws don't apply and if u r Jewish I only apply these to ur own nation. So yes this is ridiculous as an international law. I wish someone wd explain what international morality wd look like. The first world is made to be able to obey but behind the iron curtain the moral laws are different. In communist countries murder abortion happens like drinking water. Abortion is the norm.and in the third world it's only considered wrong to steal if u get caught. Somehow we are supposed to be righteous gentiles and rise above the national morality. But the ten commandments are only Jewish to for and by only Jews. In India does Ganesh the elephant headed God really dislike images of him as God? No.
I grew up Seventh-Day Adventist here in Mississippi, and we would recite the 4th commandment every Saturday(which we believed was the sabbath). When i tell you i lived a deprived childhood where you literally couldnt do anything on the sabbath or you would be breaking it and sinning. I look back and now wonder why would an eternal god of the universe even care about a day of the week and what we did on it? Smh
You have issue with your religion and/or parents who indoctrinated you. Seek God's Truth and Wisdom in all earnesty and you will be given. ....so many ppl are just too lazy to seek the truth so they just bash their adulterated interpretation of God and open their hearts and minds to Devil worshipers like this(@jezebelvibes) one. ... she's telling you who/what she is... believe her.
I’m so sorry, I’m just coming out of Christianity to Hebrew roots to believing in something else & that a bunch of people wrote a Bible.
I’m glad you questioned your beliefs. It’s important for us to not blindly follow what we have been told but to question why we believe this.
I’m Presbyterian, and we do not only rest on the Sabbath. I believe it’s an Old Testament law that Jesus has fulfilled for us since He gives us rest.
@@brookec8837 i dont really believe in any of those things now.
@@chadhardy35 I understand, and I’m sorry you feel like you lived a deprived childhood because of the church you were raised in and the rules you were told you had to follow.
To me, it’s obvious that God doesn’t expect us to live perfect lives because we sin daily and He made it where we are saved through faith and not actions. However, I don’t think that means that He doesn’t expect us to try our best to do right by Him and to do right by others, which I think is why he made those first 3 rules “about Him.” If we can abide by those, then everything else should fall into place.
Thanks for all your content.
I was inspired by one of your breakfast recipes! Now I’m looking forward to your chicken leg quarters recipe .
Thanks for sharing. Have a nice day.
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George Carlin did an hilarious bit on the 10 commandments.
Thank you, Kristi, for another thoughtful video!
Been running with your perspective for 20+ years, cheers, maybe one day we can quell the insanity. Hearts to you and yours 🤠👻❤️🌎🍷🍕
You know. Here’s the thing about every point you state in this video.
I agree with all of them. Please keep making videos. :)
The Code of Hammurabi predates The Ten Commandments by some 500 years and it's a better set of laws
The purpose of the Ten Commandments is to prove to mankind that they are totally incapable of keeping them to enter heaven and make one right with God. That is why mankind needs Jesus Christ for salvation.
I'm aware. The Gathas of Zarathustra are contemporary with the Code of Hammurabi, and they give us proto-communism.
@@vadouis-rt3of actually there was 613 Commandments
@@TheMilitantMazdakite How did that turn out?
@@grapeshot Even so, one would thing that following ten commandments would be easier than following 613. Would you not agree?
Kristi, another *brilliant* video! Wondering why it took an omniscient god another 2000 years to think up the "new" commandment to simply "love your neighbor as yourself", which would probably include not raping or owning people...
Just to point out, this commandment was in the Old Testament before Jesus quoted it. "Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD" Leviticus 19:18, NIV Unfortunately, people had difficulty putting it into practice back then as we do today. And yes, back then your neighbor was considered limited to a fellow Israelite, something Jesus challenged with a story where the hero was a hated Samaritan.
Thanks for helping me reason my way out of this. My anxiety also thanks you
Such a great point about how it's not implied that no other gods exist, in fact it's even implied that those other gods may be just as real given how God compares Himself to them. He specifically identifies himself as the one "who brought you out of slavery". As someone who has studied ancient Greece and Rome, in mythology we would often see people appealing to a particular god often for a specific purpose, or a person being favored by a particular god. But if a god grants your request it's often conditional on your serving them forever afterwards in your prayers and devotions, and switching, particularly to a rival god, seems to be something that will get you in massive trouble. To me this seems a similar thing, where a rapport has been built up.
For example a virgin not wanting to get married might appeal to Diana/Artemis. A person in love wanting their love reciprocated would appeal to Aphrodite/Venus. In wartime you might appeal to Mars/Ares or Athena/Minerva, or Poseidon/Neptune if sailing was involved (also it gets more finicky than that based on locations and traditions of places having temples made to specific gods in certain regions and gods protecting certain areas etc). In a matter concerning hospitality and being mistreated by a host or guest (and in a lot of other situations) you would appeal to Zeus/Jupiter. But in a lot of mythology, switching gods (mainly to a rival god) once a god has favoured you and granted your requests seems massively dangerous (and gods can be pretty jealous and rivalrous of each other and you don't want to get in the middle of that or be punished by a vengeful scorned god - gods tend to take their wrath out on the humans who serve their rival gods rather than those gods themselves, eg turning a god's human lovers into animals or causing strife for their favoured human or even wars).
So I'd say the mention of being the God who brought them out of Egyptian slavery is invoking a sense of obligation for the people to not switch gods now that a particular god has heard their pleas and rescued them. Which rather begs the question of whether the Ten Commandments (either set) can actually be applied the way Christianity in general applies them to believers, or whether they shouldn't be extended beyond the context of the desert Israelites and their children, and possibly their descendents (though imo this seems more likely something opportunistic future "prophets" would just invoke and retcon as "God said he'd send me").
I believe it’s not explicitly said that there are no gods because you can make anything into a god or an idol if you begin to worship it.
For instance, today people might worship wealth or fame or material possessions, etc., which can all lead you down a slippery slope if you prioritize them over what is really important.
I also think this explains why this might be a “kin punishment” since that mindset can trickle down to your children and shape what they end up idolizing.
Has anybody done a "person on the street"-style bit where they give people one of the TST tenets and asked "which of the 10 commandments is this?" I expect no more than 5% of people would know they weren't from the bible. That might go up to 25% if you were literally polling people in a church parking lot.
lol...that would be fun.
There’s some clips of people being asked to recite the Ten Commandments and they fail. One was a politician demanding the TC be exposed on government property. I can’t remember the details but I remember what a fool he looked when he couldn’t go beyond seven in random order.
actually in the church parking lot i wouldnt expect much difference.
Well, ok. I guess then that your ignorance of quantum electrodynamics makes QED false. The physics world would like to know this. Tell them.
Or your argument here is a kind of Appeal to the People fallacy: 'They don't know it, so it's false.'
@craigsmith1443 My reason for wanting such a thing is 100% as "point and laugh" material, not ammo for some idiotic attempt to disprove their beliefs.
Your thought and _dharma_ are so lucid, so penetrating, so clear, so honest, sane, contemporary, compassionate, and adult --- the contrast between that and the ancient book of formulae for control, submission, slave-owning, priest-empowering, and racism should be obvious to all who are not blind -- but we are an incompletely evolved species (like all, actually), and many understandably prefer their choice of story that makes them feel good over truth that disagrees with them. One of the best arguments for Darwinian Evolution is how religion has evolved to fill those niches.
You are hilarious! How dare you use logic and reasoning in such a wonderful fashion!
I like how George Carlin deconstructed the commandments down to " just don't be a dick" and the flying spaghetti monster's " I'd really rather you didn't"
I don't think it's productive to call it the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There's no need for that. All you're doing is going out of your way to demean people
@@MidwestFarmToys maybe you should look into the flying spaghetti monster the movement takes all the good parts of mainstream religions an makes the better. Celebrate the Sabbath if you can , just try to be a good person, and the FSM version of heaven has a beer volcano and a stripper factory.
I always found it odd how Christians obsess over rules given to the Jewish people but seem to ignore most of the teachings of Christ -- probably because the latter calls us to humility while the commandments can be used as a bludgeon.
Kurt Vonnegut once observed: "For some reason, the most vocal Christians among us never mention the Beatitudes (Matthew 5). But, often with tears in their eyes, they demand that the Ten Commandments be posted in public buildings. And of course, that's Moses, not Jesus. I haven't heard one of them demand that the Sermon on the Mount, the Beatitudes, be posted anywhere. 'Blessed are the merciful' in a courtroom? 'Blessed are the peacemakers' in the Pentagon? Give me a break!”
Not everyone who wants the Ten Commandments in public buildings are Christians. Some saw it was a reminder there is the Lawgiver that the judge in the court will have to answer to. In that case the Ten Commandments will be better than the Beatitudes.
Most atheist in the past wasn't as hostile toward the church as the new atheist are today.
I think that the ten commandments are given very little focus in mainstream Christianity, except perhaps among fundamentalists in the US bible belt.
I really cannot remember them being taught to me as a child despite my RC and CoE upbringing. The bits of the Bible that sit in the Torah are very rarely mentioned.
Thank you for sharing your insights with us....😊
Love your page. You're always clear and concise and ask all the right questions. Yes, it's all about fear and control. Sad that while we're so technologically advanced, we're still such a primitive species intellectually and emotionally.
Another good video! Thank you Kristi.
Well done, Kristi. This was an instant classic.
As are all hers !
Wow, is that a RØDE NT-USB or a RØDE NT-USB+ in your hand?
You sound great and I couldn't hear any handling noise with the microphone.
Keep your great work. Thinking and analyzing is good.
My husband got it for me - he said it's the NT-USB+ . I love it!
@@jezebelvibes The NT-USB+ is not marketed at a handheld microphone. You just stretched its known capabilities!
Excellent!!!
When Jenna Ellis read her guilty plea statement in court, she used the dreaded phrase, "as a Christian".
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Thanks for this video, Kristi!
_When Jenna Ellis read her guilty plea statement in court, she used the dreaded phrase, "as a Christian"._
OK, so? False claims of innocence abound in prison, too, or in corrupt governments. It's a human desire to lie to escape responsibility. So she lied. Now what?
When I realized that the Hammurabi stone Stella code ( c. 2000 bce) was the exact same level of human moral development as the Mosaic code, was when i knew i was free. Now researching current civil and ethical development.