Chevy Colorado ZR2 Diesel: You Won’t Believe the Dyno Numbers!
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- (www.tfltruck.com) Chevy Colorado ZR2 Diesel: You Won’t Believe the Dyno Numbers! This all stock 2018 ZR2 2.8L Duramax puts down some impressive numbers on the dyno.
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Video begins at 2:20. You're welcome.
For the correction factor, are you simply adding in an additional 15%? It is uncommon to correct for altitude on turbocharged applications because the PCM will control to a target manifold pressure regardless of barometric pressure (assuming compressor surge and turbo speed limits are not encountered). Check out SAE J1349 for reference.
Considering it's a 2.8L 63hp per liter is not bad. Using those numbers, If it were a 6.6L it would produce 417hp. My 2.0L cruze diesel stock makes 79hp per liter. 521hp if it were a 6.6L. The 2018 6.6L Duramax produces 445 HP or 67 hp per liter.That puts it in perspective. Numbers are advertised not Dyno tested.
Awesome pull.
I've got the 589 Shock skids on my 17' ZR2 as well!
Enjoy in good health!
My 2.8 is tuned and deleted and the number are even more impressive. With a level lift and 33" tires I get 30-32mpg average as well. I had a 2017 taco with a level lift and 33" damn thing could not pick a gear to save its life and got 14mpg.
Nick Hughson
You are 100% correct on the Tacoma, a family member has a Tacoma 4x4 3.5 lift kit and 35" tires , 14 mpg and the transmission goes crazy trying to find the right gear so sad
Do you have dyno numbers?
Im ditching my lifted taco for one of these
Down here in Australia, my Colorado makes 260hp and 517foot pound at the rear wheels, while getting upwards of 37mpg
@@o2t_ruthless598 That's pretty good power what was done to make that
That rating impressed me too,...I'm going to look more closely at this engine option on my next buy.
$10 def fluid every week and $20 filters
@@mikegillaspy1721 Those costs will all be in the price calculation, and I thank you for reminding me of that one!
I wonder how these will do with a tune and exhaust, maybe an intake also
Great job gm. that's dang good. He said it had 2000 miles on it and was broken in. Not even close. The moving parts are pretty much acquainted, but the rings have a long way to go.
Yup you're right it takes at least a good 10000 miles
Andre working over time. Thank you everyone.
Have mine factory ordered and can't wait to take delivery!
waiting?
Impressive for sure
will deleting cause codes to show up? will it pass smog ? im in Nevada kinda easy here but they do check the diesel vehicles a bit more.
Congrats to Chevy for this. Not many companies are under rating their engines anymore other than MOPARs.
"Isuzu D-Max" is the name of the truth that engine comes from!
Tsang Sung
Correct. I said that but Americans think they're getting it before everybody else, when in actuality the rest of the world pay 4x more for road fuel and therefore have had this option for years!
I thought that you correct for naturally aspirated, not forced induction engines. Forced induction was invented for piston driven aircraft to not lose power at altitude. 20 lbs of boost is 20 lbs of boost at any altitude, it just takes compressing a larger volume of thin air to achieve it. The 2.8 Duramax uses a variable vane turbo that also helps compensate for air density. There may be some losses, but not 15%. Take that off, and you are at 150 HP, add back the powertrain loss, and it's right around the 180 hp it's rated at. I would like to see some deleted and tuned numbers, but we might have to wait until they start coming out of warranty for that.
Hey. I'm in Colorado springs co. About to purchase a Chevy Colorado zr2 bison diesel. Where is the best place to get it tuned? I dont mind driving up to Denver or further.
Can someone dyno the gas version because I'm curious if it would put down the same results at the wheel but 308 to 275 tq
Let’s hope the they fixed the dashboard cracking issue!
I'm really liking this truck.
They said 15% correction at 5000 ft above see level doesn't that mean air is thinner or less pressure so is that adding 15%
Great numbers
I have 2018 2.8 also the zr2 i tried the tuner that tricks the fuel to go faster and after 300 miles went to limp mode took the tuner out after i had it towed 304 miles to the dealer, and even tho its on warranty they charge me 600 to disconnect 40 gal transfer flow tank... . No tuner for these trucks work if someone does know of tuner or any perf help please tell me. Also what gears do you recommend for 33 inch tires ?? My build should be done i 6 more weeks after 3 months, i will post it so we can see what 35k budget does for this rig i gave it to fabrications unlimited in Alviso ca. I have the air cleaner box changed to the clear box forgot the name.. I do mot know how to work on autos but i do a good job of spending..The truck so far is pretty good looking hope not to heavy..John
How do you keep it from shifting gears?
How much doed the def filter cost?
I want to see the REAL numbers, at the wheel, at elevation. I mean when i drive thru colorado towing, how much power is it really putting down then?
155 HP and 318lb-ft
Do you guys recommend any specific tune for the Colorado Duramax?
The colorado here in the philippines is rated at 200 hp and 370 lbs/ft of torque
Any problems with dpf..
What were the uncorrected numbers? Just 179 less 15%? Remember that the power drop with altitude is only applicable to N/A engines, to a lesser degree supercharged engines (because it is mechanically linked to engine speed boost will also drop off with altitude), but turbo engines do not drop like that with elevation gain.
As others have mentioned, a dyno run just to get one number isn’t meaningful. Roller dynos vary wildly, and they’re measuring power where the tire meets the roller... put lighter tires on it and you’ll see a different number, even though engine output hasn’t changed. Only useful for measuring the change in output before/after a tune or modification. If you want meaningful engine output numbers in any absolute sense, you need to pull the motor and have it run on an engine dynamometer by a facility that meets SAE specifications.
Ya I believe it at around 1500 miles it was as though the truck got a little more power. Is GM getting their numbers from a fresh motor? Or being conservative so they don’t pull a Ford Mustang back in the 90s.
Hmmm. I would want to see a non corrected result and compare it to a sea level dyno run. The whole concept of a turbo is to force feed the engine. The wastegate is supposed to remain closed until the boost reaches a prescribed point in pressure, in effect making the truck immune to altitude. That would mean that those corrected figures are actually wrong.
pause the video at 3:19 and they are adding another 1.15 correction factor on their numbers. HP is 153.8 uncorrected.
my 2.8 v6 in my 1984 chevy s10 had about 120hp new. id be lucky to have a 100 hp now that she has 75k miles on here.
Pretty sure you can't just have a flat % correction for all your cars, a turbo would be less affected and a high pressure turbo would be even less affected than a low pressure one.
Holy shit that's surprisingly quiet, all you hear is the fan and dyno mainly...
Barely any horsepower and torque lost at the wheel thats a great diesel engine I really want a colorado with that 2.8L duramax
Yeah, this power train makes the colorado a whole lot more appealing.
The dyno operator used a 15% correction factor to offset the altitude. So at sea level without the correction factor it would make the same power on the dyno I would like to see what would make without the correction. The correction factor in my opinion makes it a completely bs number.
If you know the corrected value and you know the correction factor. You should be able to figure out what the uncorrected numbers are.
buy a liberty
Juan Guzman The engine has a rubber timing belt! That means not interested, and no sale. C’mon Chevy, put a proper steel timing chain on your engines and stop saddling us with this junk!
Factory underrated because next model year they'll juice it up a bit for sales..
The correction is off. This is a turbocharged engine, not NA, so the altitude makes a negligible difference. The dyno numbers prior to their 15% corrections are 155 HP and 318lb-ft, which correlate nicely with the manufacturer's claims when 15% drivetrain loss is figured in (15% off the factory numbers of 181/369 is 154/314). So yeah, this is a healthy engine, but perfectly in line with the advertised power.
Underrated engine. That’s some good stuff.
I got almost 600 hp and 1360 ish ft lb of torque out of a vp44 24 valve cummins 5.9 diesel in a 2000 dodge 2500. There wasnt a stock part on the truck besides a stock vp44 fuel inj pump.
Im betting if you delete that dirtymax, add more injector, stud the cyl heads, bigger turbo, build the hell out of the transmission, and get a really hot efi live tune it would be a beast!!!
Yeah you're gonna wanna definitely build the engine the rods are a little weak On top of the studs and a compound Turbo You could still make a monster for less than 10 grand And take it's only a 4700 pound truck
So does that mean when it's at sea level it would produce more? (Probably a dumb question, asking for a friend ;)
Andrew Mendoza No, that's the purpose of the altitude correction factor. The pulls in the video have inflated numbers to represent what the truck would see at sea level. In reality though, dynos like this one are not good for measuring outright torque, since every company has different calibration methods and intervals. These dynos are best for comparing engine calibrations and parts upgrades, by taking data before and after the changes are made. So I wouldn't trust the absolute power readings shown here.
Nice little truck though on the pricey side. That much cash not too long ago got a guy a lot more truck. I'm a FS truck man, a bit biased I suppose. I use a truck for work mainly, hauling firewood out of the mountains, trailering old vehicles home and a bit of horsing around in the bush.
I want to get in there and go BEAST MODE with the ZR2
That's pretty good
Cool truck, They probably need a lower correction with the turbo. I think it is 1.6% per thousand feet with turbo instead of 3.0% per thousand if I remember correctly.
Much less than that with the turbo diesel. Very little power loss in a modern setup at this altitude. 2-3% total, tops.
I want one so much. I think it’s much cooler than a Toyota trd pro. Not saying it’s a bad truck but I really love the diesel option for the zr2. I hope they sell well so I can’t find a nice used one for a reasonable price in the future
Never fear. Resale will be weak.
The 178.5 hp was at the wheels with 15% ELEVATION correction not driveline loss..
Driveline loss could be around 18-20% and possibly more because it is a small truck.
add the driveline loss and you have about 210 hp at the flywheel.
Torque would be around 425 lb-ft at the flywheel.
most all manufactures advertise flywheel HP, not at the wheel numbers.
and again he added a 15% correction for elevation to match sea level numbers.
just posting what the tuner said about the elevation correction.. :)
please explain this, I am planning to buy one
Drove one and it certainly felt underwhelming. I suspect with a tune it feels a lot more drivable.
From a dead stop they are a little laggy, but do really well in accelerating when they are already doing 10mph but from a dead stop they seems dead slow. Between my dads and mine we have 140k miles on these trucks. Very impressive little trucks. I have a 2500 Suburban with 4.10s and the ly6 6.0 380 horsepower and these little diesels tow better obviously don't have the tow capacity but they get the same loads moving faster and hold speed on hills better than the 6.0 gas
When they announced this truck I was sold, even though I'm not a Chevy guy.
Diesel, off road package, a manual option confirmed.
Then they announced the manual was 2wd work truck only and a bought a Tacoma.
How are you liking your 14 mpg I know I love my 30 And I still got a manual switch So technically I can still switch and hold my gear
3rd gear? you need to use direct drive in 4th not 3rd...that's wrong
Either this truck or wait for the 2018 2.5L diesel Frontier. Decisions decisions. In Australia they really love the new Frontier or Navarro
Navara is a shitbox, always has been & always will be. Stick to toyota, isuzu, holden or Mitsubishi. Volkswagen ok but no low range.
Why does it matter what gear you measure the power and torque in? It seems like these should be almost purely a function of throttle position and rpm.
sonictech1000 mechanicalmania.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-does-gear-ratio-affect-torque.html?m=1
Johnathan Yinger That explains why you would need to know the gear ratio but it doesn't explain why one ratio would be preferable to another for measurement.
Inflated numbers is what the clients like to see so he delivers them shrewd businessman
how much is this truck? Ill keep my 5.7L gas and 400hp
I doubt these numbers. The HP and torque numbers are certified by the SAE and they don't allow for underrating to this level any longer. I would imagine that the multiplier is not set correctly. Plus if you have watched Jason's (Engineering Explained) video on dyno's you know that they are only good for giving gains after mods versus a baseline, not particularly good at giving baselines because they need to be calibrated to the vehicle that's being tested and because there are many different dyno's commercially available. Dyno's are not all built to read output in the same way.
Correct. There are way too many assumptions to compare these numbers to published numbers. You either have to run it on an engine dyno or someone has to measure the drivetrain loss of this vehicle from the flex plate to the treads. Neither is going to happen.
Not true. SAE J1349 allows for an unlimited amount of understating and up to 1% of overrating.
They are corrected. I dynoed mine at sea level uncorrected 147 hp at the wheels.
Is this wheel horsepower or crank power?
Since the run was visibly seen by using the tires to move the rollers I'm going with.... wheel.
your correcting at 15% A TURBO CHARGED vehicle at high altitude, yeah those numbers are inflated
alaskan155 ...yeah, you're probably right...rolls eyes.
alaskan155 exactly so it's more like 150hp and 310tq
I dynoed mine 147 uncorrected at sea level.
That was my first thought. You correct for naturally aspirated not forced induction. Forced induction was invented for aircraft to not lose power at altitude. 20 lbs of boost is 20 lbs of boost at any altitude, it just takes compressing a larger volume of thin air to achieve it. The 2.8 Duramax uses a variable vane turbo that also helps compensate for air density.There may be some losses, but not 15%. Take that off, and you are at 150 HP, basically what House of Diesel got at sea level. I would like to see some deleted and tuned numbers, but we might have to wait until they start coming out of warranty for that.
th-cam.com/video/Y-V4waTlDC0/w-d-xo.html
Doesnt ford have a diesel ranger that isnt sold in the us?
Ben Lauderdale I believe two different diesel options in Europe a 4 and 5 cylinder and all the us is getting is a 2.3 ecoboost I'm not sure I see the appeal of the new ranger a shortbox f 150 will probably cost the same.
The ranger diesel has a 5 cylinder 3.2 liter doing about 205hp
Drove one in Panama last year, liked it but after drivng the Colorado, had to get the Chevy.
Interesting
But I thought that turbo vehicles lost less power? I've heard that said over and over on this channel. 15% seems like a big correction factor given that
Pretty sure that % is based on a lot of test's of sea level vs where they are. Its not just some arbitrary number they pulled outta no where.
You are right, the air is less dense so a naturally aspirated engine would struggle to breath, a boosted engine has a set boost pressure it aims for regardless of the air density and probably shouldn't need any correction at all. Let's subtract 15% from those numbers.
They are at 5,000 ft above sea level. Correction is necessary.
barometeric pressure yesterday in Denver was 30 inhg, which is higher than the SAE standard paired with 35 degree air temps
rcairforceone no is not, certainly not at 15%. I live at 6500 ft and I can assure you my Mitsubishi diesel truck feels the same at sea level, if the turbo is properly tuned from factory it has more than enough capacity to keep the air pressure needed for the engine. Before 1800 rpm it's weaker, bit once the turbo spools at 2000 rpm it's the same no matter what altitude you are.
Wow!
Nice
why correct with 15% altitude makes no dif... its a turbo... it will get the air it needs regardless of altitude.
No, it won't the higher you get. They certainly outperform an NA motor, but you still lose air density, which means you lose power.
15% correction, with a turbo?
Forced induction isn't affected as naturally aspirated as much.
It's an Isuzu engine and doesn't match the 2005 - 2011 Jeep with the Mercedes 3.0 diesel with 218hp and 376 lb ft.
The Isuzu d-max pickup as it's known in the U.K gets pretty poor mpg in the real world too.
iVlog it's not an Isuzu engine and the Jeep Liberty only had the 2.8l for two years.
iVlog mine is getting 24 mpg on my daily 100 mile commute that includes a drop and subsequent gain of 2500 vertical feet. 8500 down to 6k and back. On the hwy on level ground at 6k ft altitude I get around 31 mpg at 65 mph. This motor is not identical to the one they were testing in Europe.
In the US we get new engines, you guys in Europe generally get the hand-me-downs.
Keep telling yourself that.
Like the WK you got in 2007 and in the UK we had it since the WK Jeep launched in 2005. Same goes for the Liberty!
PS like the WK2 since launch has had the VM(fiat) 3.0 CRD!
I have seen a couple tuners out there getting around 225 HP and 440 T at the wheels. I think the problem with this set up is the transmission. It does not like to play over 450 foot pound of tuque. Love that truck, but my pockets say wit 10 years 😂😭
At 5000ft. I'm impressed.
Kevin Noll I know. I'm still impressed though.
Kevin Noll He corrected the number to account for driveline loss. 181 is the stock HP. Thats what the 15% (standard and not exact) correction factor is for. They came up with 179 corrected. It calculates to @ what the manufacturer claims. The 179 is not at the wheels.
He says in the video that the 15% is to correct for the altitude. Which for this engine completely invalidates this test. The Colorado diesel makes its own adjustments to maintain power at altitude. If you take that same truck down to sea level and run it on a dyno without a 15% correction you will see lower results.
Todd Wilson If he used 15% for altitude, combine that with driveline loss, then this is the best dyno run in history. Lol
Not impressed! It's a turbo diesel with a vgt turbo! . It should be correcting air flow to make similar power at high alt as it does at low altitude!
That num nuts dyno operator should know that but he works on gas na vehicles lol.
Show me the real results that the owner is getting.
How do i know? I engineer diesels for a living! I have spent 100s of hrs testing at high alt.
Chevy Colorado registered in Colorado. Nice
181/186hp., Dyno shows 179, I see a loss of hp.?
The 181 HP rating GM states is at the the fly wheel..the dyno measures at the rear wheels. Typically there would be way more loss, so this is showing that the 2.8 is under rated from the factory.
They’re also at 5000’…
I’m lost; so wtF did we learn here?
That the numbers stated from the factory are almost the same as to the wheel which is very unheard of. Most of the time you lose 15% hp and torque to the wheels due to drivetrain loss.
@@WilbanksUSMC thank u
those numbers would be about right... if this was a NA engine that he put a 15% correction on. the duramax makes exactly what GM claims at the crank. its not underrated at all. the turbocharger means that it didn't need such a drastic correction.
Harvey is great
Now, if they would drop the price on these to around their gasoline model like the rest of the world, I might consider.
Or wait for Toyota to finally bring the Hilux to the US so we can have a reliable, good resale, great offroading diesel.
That dino looks like some old school shit
A Prius has 295 torque, what a race car
Talkn some fukn muscle!!!!!!
Boost creep? That man is a car nerd. You can tell he knows what he’s talking about and he’s confident. 👍🏽
He is actually totally wrong. Turbo vehicles do not change hp at altitude. The air density dropped is regained by the pressure from the turbo. And boost creep is a terrible effect you get when you can’t release enough excess air through your waste gate. This means your exceeding your intended maximum boost pressure and break something.. head gasket, blow a pipe coupler apart, piston rings, run the motor lean and melt a piston. Doesn’t sound like a nickname boasting his knowledge on the subject.
Nobody picked up that he didn't dyno in direct 1 to 1 in the trans. Apparently the trans doesn't have a direct ratio.... how convient for Chevy as u can never get a true engine only reading. The trans ratio is helping his hp number at hurting trq etc.
Troy Strain doesn't matter what gear they use if there is no 1:1 ratio then they have to adjust or the numbers r crap.
They r so concerned about altitude but dont discuss the effect of trans and axle ratios.
It's a turbo diesel and he still needs a 15% correction factor? Bs!
Show me the real numbers they get and screw your fudge factor.
All the rude Tacoma fanboys in the comments giving Toyota a bad name! Can't we just be happy for the guy and his new truck?!
220/440 tuned.
Wow, that's impressive. Can you elaborate?
the same engine here in brasil and argentina have (200hp) and a lot of problems. best diesel engine here are the toyota d4d and 5cil 3.2 litres ford puma...
The price is out of this world its not even a full size!
Flawed test. Why would you add 15% to a forced induction. This isn't a naturally aspirated that loses power at higher altitude. Great for marketing hype.
So everyone understands that no two dynos are the same, and you'll never see the same numbers repeated on two dynos EVER, right? This is a know fact by now, right? Dynos are really for tuning and checking the effects of changes, not for verifying actual numbers, because you could go to a dyno down the street and get different numbers.
So a turbo diesel with forced air induction acting as a supercharger and still only 176hp if u ask me it’s very under powered. Turn off ur forced fan and I bet the numbers drop another 10%
Restricted and quite a bit. To pass eco laws in the U.S. Can easliy be tuned to make much more power and allow the turbo to do it's job. That is why the Ford Raptor deisel is not here yet. Just wait until after the waranty expires.
Ford's new diesel Ranger will tear it up
Update...the Ranger isn't selling. Even the Frontier is beating it in sales.
Yeah, that's a pretty bad ass mid sized truck engine. Take that Toyota.
Jeff K please....a Taco will barely be broken in when this thing is sold for parts.
You do realize the Toyota has offered a diesel in their trucks/SUVs since at least the 70s right? Not to mention that Toyota has waaaaay better resale, off road capability/pedigree, and reliability.
Don’t understand where the market for a small diesel powered truck. 40 plus thousand dollars...why not just get a nice used full size 2500 series pickup of your choice, you don’t gain that much in fuel economy to offset that buying price. Unless it’s your prerogative, these won’t be on the market for 5 years at most. Or you can get a gas powered truck and get 20-23 miles a gallon. Tacoma owners won’t even wink at this gimmicky truck.
a c you can't buy a new Toyota truck, Tacoma and tundra, with a diesel in it. I like the tacomas way more than I do colorados but you can't get a diesel in a Tacoma
187 horse power
2k miles that's not broken in give it another 200k then it's broke in
It's broke in.
unknown unknown Diesels broke in faster than gas. Mainly because of the additives on diesel types engine oil.
220k miles till its broken in ROTFL... TH-cam engineers never cease to amaze me! You must be comparing this to 13-15 liter Caterpillars/Cummins/Detroits which can live well over million miles, but that little Isuzu will be near the end of its life at 220,000
Dominic Stanley Long idling can severely damage engines especially the diesels.
Ibraheem Al hadede That has absolutely nothing to do with my previous statement, but since youve replied... you are incorrect as well. Diesel, and gas engines use the same oil, and idling has negligible effects on engine wear.
178 hp = 132 kw
I once had a minivan with that much horsepower.
HP doesn't matter as much as Torque does in diesel engines
The v6 makes 300HP....???? Am I missing something?
Ya you’re clearly don’t get it lol
A base price of $41k (over $37k with V6) for this truck is insane. The prices of trucks have been way too high for years, but now they've reached absurd levels. I looked at the ZR2 and TRD Pro when I was shopping tor an off-road capable midsize truck recently and the prices of the ZR2 and TRD sent me into shock. Both were well over $40k with V6s (and they weren't dealing much on them). Then I looked at the Pro4x, for which I was quoted $32k out the door for a loaded crew cab with 6 speed manual, which isn't even available on the Chevy. I chose the Pro4x for many reasons, but primarily for its amazing value. It is slightly less refined and equipped than the others, but where it matters, in capability, the Pro4x actually beats the others in key areas, like chassis rigidity, off-road capability, torque. The Frontier may be built on an old platform, but it's a fantastic platform and is absolutely still an extremely capable and competitive midsize truck, especially for the bargain price. I couldn't be happier with the Pro4x.
i, and im sure many others. would love an explaination as to how the pro4x beats the zr2 or even the trd pro in off-road capabilty and torque. Cheapest? yes it is. best value? Arguable, but ill give you that one. But in no way is it better than a zr2 or a trd pro.
I had to rent a frontier one week. it was a terrible vehicle with no guts at all. I dont know how the pro4x verison is but this was a 4 litre
I purchased a new 2016 Frontier 4x4 SV crew cab for $25.5k. It came equipped with fog lights, tow package and spray in bedliner. For the value, you can't beat it. The 4.0l v6 isn't the best on gas but it has plenty of power and torque.
You can get a regular Colorado crew cab 4x4 with the rear locker for about 31k.
jman26 1 especially in my area. In the Boston MA area there is a dealer giving 6k off ZR2! You can get a new ZR2 Ext Cab V6 for 35k! Out the door! That has 8 speeds, 308 hp 275 lbs ft tq! I bought my 2016 Z71 Ext Cab V6,4x4, for 30k with the factory tow package and 8.4”Chevy MyLink Nav/Bose with the InStar 4 G LTE WIFI. that is unavailable in your Pro4x at any price. All I’ve had to do is remove the air dam in front, to be able to go anywhere your pro4x will go! All while getting better mileage. Up to 27 hyw at the speed limits! Or 17 city that I know are a lot better than my cousins Pro4X gets at 15 city and 21 hyw! Not to mention while towing! The Frontier is not a bad truck, just old. With very little tech. The only option they have the Colorado doesn’t, is the two zone climate control. In the Colorado it’s just one zone climate control!
I have zero faith in comparisons to printed numbers and wheel dynos. I want corporate letterhead showing that management requested that they underrate the engine for spec sheets. Until then it's all conjecture.
delete and tune it and you could put down 250-300hp and 450-500 ft lbs tq. as well as gain about 10 MPG, im not very impressed because my 2004 1.9 VW TDI makes around 165 HP and 290 ft lbs and i havent finished my power upgrades yet even. and as a bonus i still get about 45 mpg average as well
Comparing a Truck that meets the EPA emissions vs a VW that likely doesn't given history of companies rigged testing.
Mike Haha @ gaining 10mpg. WRONG!
An MK4 VW was not cheating, and people have swapped the 1.9 TDI into many vehicles including rangers and S10s and Canyons and such. they are strong little engines and when put in the trucks people have been known to get 40 MPG out of them still
He'd probably also like to keep his powertrain warranty intact.
Mike Utoober it’s a VW so nobody cares
I guess I don't see the point. those numbers are trash in the diesel truck world. Diesel isn't cheap enough to offset the price of the truck in savings and you would be money and power ahead to buy a gas.
Tacoma < ZR2
Why in the world would you want to castrate a Duramax
does this truck use a chevy engine;or an asian engine? if so i wont by !
Hey all you haters out there lets stop bitching about manufacturers trying something different. My hat is off to GM. You buy a truck to do work, diesels do that pretty well. You don't buy a truck to win a race. The reason the dam things cost so much is because people won't buy them without all the tech bs which buy the way makes them less reliable.
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Ass clown YT comments lol....these things move, I was behind one last week and it got out of its own way easily. You ricers whining about low hp: Hp is a function of tq it describes the powerband, this thing lays down low rpm tq and it weighs over half less of a fullsize crew cab, ive read about trans blowing out on these already thats my only concern. So your 400hp 7000lb crew dually vs this 220hp/450wtq(modded) on 4800 lbs is similar power to weight ratio. Waiting to see what jeep is going to do w wrangler. Stay away from the Tacoma 6AT rigs that transmission is a joke also. Even if this dudes dyno isnt optimized #'s are at 5k feet lol
The price and the fact that you have to endure a 20 to 30 minute regen. cycle on every tank of fuel is a deal breaker.
OFFRD big deal for regen. Lol
I have a Colorado z71 diesel with 31,000 kms and never seen an active regen
delete kit
I drive semi and it regen when you are driving and dont even notice its happening, maybe a few times a year it regens when idling