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- Comparing a stock Chevy Colorado ZR2 Duramax to another tuned and straight piped (with downpipe) Chevrolet Colorado Diesel!! Big gains with HP, Torque, and MPGs (not to mention the sound and turbo noises!) 500 likes and I'll hoodstack it (for testing purposes of course).
Weekly videos featuring my 2018 Colorado ZR2 Diesel, 2003 Chevy Silverado ZF6 LB7 Duramax, and 1994 BMW 325is E36 LS1 T56 swap, and friend's videos.
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Hood stack that shit🤣
If we get 500 likes!!
Hood stacks are the gayest thing ever
@@matt13ross its gonna hit that at some point lets go!!!
Almost there!
Hood stack time
Who else wanta one of these now
I been wanting one of these! Can I afford one ..? No.. am I hear listening to cold startups, wishing I had one.. yes haha
Keep them coming! Love them
Thanks!
after watching multiple videos, I realized that on your cateye, I sold you those wheels through perfection wheels. looks good man👊👍
Haha, small world!
Very informative video, music was outstanding, no more Chipmunks !
Thanks
Thanks! Chipmunks will be missed 😂
My 2019 gmc duramax canyon Denali has registered 45 average mpg!!! No games with resets either a full 25 miles average at 45 mpg!!! I LOVE IT
Absolutely NEED this tune!! You should put the details of it in the description. I know absolutely nothing about tunes and which to go with or setup and all that. I've rear through the comments on here to get some sort of idea.
That sounded waaay better than I expected!
Sounds pretty decent!
That transmission tuning makes a massive difference. The stock transmission tuning is the biggest issue with the ZR2.
Yea I’m impressed with it! Locks out much quicker and stays in lower gears.
What should I search for to get my 2016 tuned like your buddy’s truck? I’m 100% stock and get 24 local and 28-31 Highway. Decent numbers. But I HATE the hesitation from a standing start.
Years ago Chrysler was putting this into their Dodge Caravans overseas and I saw a test done on a 1998 with a 2.4 L version of the same engine and it got over 50 miles per gallon with a single person in it and went 1050 miles. Then they filled it up with seven people filled up the fuel tank and it went over 730 miles with the same 20 gallons of fuel with seven people in it.
I liked this little engine.
I love that the Colorado and the Canyon were available with the small displacement Duramax turbo diesel engine.
That's the main reason I bought one!
@@matt13ross That's a good reason. I read somewhere that they're no longer producing the Duramax 2.8 engine, that the factory is closing down. I'd hope not.
Rumors are the next Colorado will not have a diesel option, a 4 cylinder turbo gas engine instead.
@@matt13ross That's too bad. If one wants a turbo gas powered Colorado, that's fine. But I think people should be allowed the option if they want or need a Duramax 2.8 litre Diesel.
Agreed
Great towing capacity. I towed one three days ago with a dead transmission
This exactly what I needed to see, thank you!
Edit: This sounds better than the majority of 2.8’s I’ve heard.
Who did your buddy go with for the tunes?
I think it sounds about as decent as a 4 cylinder turbo can sound. HD
@@matt13ross HD Diesel Supply???
I get 35mpg @75 mph in my lb7 duramax on the interstate. These smaller trucks seem to get similar numbers on the pump.
You should consider a electronic exhaust cutout. That way you can have quiet when you want it then noisy when you don't.
That's actually a solid idea! I was thinking of adding a bigger muffler to make it more quiet, but would like it to be loud at some points too.
Only issue with that is tuning, it's tuned for the exhaust set up and changing back pressure will affect tuning
Every since the ZR2 Colorado came out. I’ve been keeping my eye on it. And recently I’ve been craving it little by little. And after this I think I’m going to get this instead of a RS5 Audi or The new Z
Me too, I was cross shopping between a suburban and a Prius through.
The truck and engine I want. I'm surprised Toyota has not built a tacoma with a 4 cylinder diesel yet. All I wanted out of a midsize truck, torque to tow, pull itself in light offroad situations and better gas economy than other trucks. I heard some reporting 36 mpg but they are probably in the country doing long commutes with no traffic
I'm very surprised no other makers have a diesel midsize truck. I guess they just aren't popular enough here in the USA. You can definitely get near 36mpg highway with a tuned non ZR2 Colorado diesel.
@@matt13ross seeing how Chevy is having success with it, we will probably see more small diesel engines. I think it can compete with the upcoming electric trucks that will coming out soon. Gas probably fazing out as time goes by
I hope that’s true!
What was the name of the exhaust and downpipe etc? Link no longer available.
I know this video was posted awhile back now, but does this tune, and new exhaust system, delete DEF?
Your buddy is one lucky guy
That’s right
Hi I’m about to dive in with a 19 ZR2. How has the longer term economy worked out? Mine averages around 20 and has been to Chevrolet 3 times with emissions failures including a plugged DPF. It also drinks 5 gallons of DEF every 1000 miles when towing. Look forward to your answer
I answered your other question. Yea mine used to average around 20mpg. Now it’s about 26.
I have a 2017 and get 26-29 around town. Best is 37 but I have a bed cover and stock size tires. No tuning as of now
Solid numbers!!
Hahahah love the Canada license plate! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌🏼
Hehe!
What’s the verdict with “weight reduction” and “cpu update” with the Colorados/Canyons? I have a 6.7 Cummins but I’m looking for something smaller for the wife.
💯 worth it. Not that I’d know…….
I was actually surprised with the fuel mileage. Currently looking around at diesel Colorados, Canyons, Ram 1500’s, and Silverado 1500’s. I don’t need a full size even thought it would be nice. But kinda leaning towards the Colorado now
The Silverado 1500 diesel gets better fuel mileage than the Colorado diesel. I want both!
Just a heads up about the Chevy 2.8 Duramax. There are no gauges for the turbo at all. Even more annoying is nothing to monitor particulate filter or do a manual regen. Usually there is no notification that it is doing one. Apparently you are suppose to be able to hear the difference, but I can't. I've had my truck in 6 times in 3 years for sensor replacement and manual regen. You can get a device called Autel 808 which is a scanning tool, but also allows you to monitor soot filter, time since last regen and most importantly you can do the manual regen yourself if need be. They cost a bit less than $500.00 but well worth the money. Chevy could have included more to monitor critical systems. other than that I have had no problems with my truck.
Love my duramax Colorado I’m so ready to delete and tune it
I have a 2017 and the only thing I have in it is a Stealth chip I had one trip that actually hit 42.0 miles per gallon. Though not as impressed with the performance otherwise. Also, haven't hit that 42 since, so not going to attribute it to the chip, as it could have been a fluke. Looking to do a full tune soon. Have also heard some good things about Pedal Commander to get rid of dead pedal syndrome. We'll see what the full tune does first.
I wouldn’t do a pedal commander if you’re getting a tune. The tune will take care of the dead pedal.
Maybe try an intake rather than a pedal commander with the tune
I live in Canada as well like your buddy and have tuned mine as well by a local tuner and am not satisfied with their tune. Who did your buddy use?
Check out HD Diesel Supply
I don't own one of these, but I test drove a stock Duramax and a V6 Tacoma since I'm thinking about getting a mid-size truck. The Duramax was a little more responsive than the Tacoma in my drives. Just an FYI, since you said it was the slowest truck in its class.
The Duramax is def slower than a V6 Tacoma or Colorado, etc lol. I don't mind it because it gets GREAT fuel economy and makes cool noises though.
@@matt13ross at what speed range? City driving in Miami, 0-40 mph felt the same. If it’s grunt after 40 mph, then I could see the duramax losing out.
Yea definitely at high speeds you’ll notice the difference.
Where can I get a tune like this ?
What tune and exhaust and trans tune
can you get the stock downpipe out from the bottom once its all unbolted? Or do i have to move the airbox, coolant tank, hot air pipes and take it out from the engine bay?
Has to be from up top.
Im looking at a used z71 with 16k miles diesel. Has anyone had any issues with their doesel and or tranny,? Should i buy the new at4 with the 4 banger turbo instead? Thanks
Have you done a video on what all is done to that truck? I heard you say that all that was done is a straight pipe and tune. I just wanna make sure because I’m trying to get that mpg lol
Yea I've done some overview videos. However I don't talk about certain things......lol
Is it illegal or something to have it straight piped or something in the US? Just got a 17 duramax ZR2 and I'm loving it so far, but after watching a good chunk of your videos I definitely have some mods in my future! Definitely want to get that flopro exhaust so I can hear that turbo 🤗🤗 then the tuner and we'll see after that!
Some states require emission checks so if ou remove everything you many not pass
I’m concerning to delete but live in NY don’t know if it will show when doing inspection
Do you Still have your truck?
Can you do a video to hear the new sound of the exhaust brake ? own a 2018 canyon with the 2.8 duramax and haven't been able to find of a video on it.
Good idea. I can do that. You can hear the exhaust brake more for sure.
@@matt13ross Thanks dude keep the zr2 content coming super helpful and more informative then any other 2.8 duramax videos I've seen
@@lucasvampa2223 thanks I appreciate it! More videos coming for sure.
Oh man. I'm gonna be sad when you guys have to ship that thing back to 🇨🇦.😢
Haha
What tune are you running?
Hood stack. Hood stack 👊
Sold 😂
We have the turbo whistle now on our stock duramax 2018 ZR2. We're at 54k miles is this normal? I've heard it on the road with other diesels and my buddy says it's just the turbo spooling up with boost. It's hard to find research on this. Also, we're getting a little exhaust in the cab. Have you gotten this? Maybe a clamp needs tightening at the downpipe from the turbo?? Thanks
Is it a new noise? If it's not, I'm sure it's just the stock turbo, most of them have some sort of whistle.
Its cleaner but burns more fuel or it's dirty but burns less fuel, so it's kind of the same isn''t it?
My stock "leveling kit after market suspension" 2016 canyon 2.8L 82k miles gets average of 28mpg highway. I have lead foot an like to ride left lane. I learned how to just work rpms play with cruise control and driving 4hrs in a day for work I can get anywhere from 20-28 depending on how I'm driving. My best is 33.6 and I'd get that super easy if I just rock 60-70 in middle to right lanes. This engine does better when has a payload or pulling trailer. Basically brake lights cost me mpg so get out of the way.
Super confident this engine can reach 300-400k miles no problem if properly maintained or even "tuned". The only thing I'm having trouble find info on is transmission failures. Just trying to plan ahead. Even with higher gas prices beats most sedans, all midsize/full size trucks in mpg.
Yea the transmission was not confidence inspiring. But I did get great fuel mileage with mine.
I am looking for a new off road tuner, have you checked your boost pressure? Mine from another company is steadily at 50psi and peaks at 81psi causing continuous hoses to blow off or rupture. Please offer your thoughts, I don't want to throw down $1500 to have another unusable tune...
The boost sounds way too high. I have not measured mine yet, I'm planning on getting a gauge setup soon though.
Which tune is causing that amount of boost?
I'm not a fan of where the gear selector is. I've always preferred the selector being up on the steering column, like most trucks of 30+ years ago.
Did he just cut out the muffler or did he fully straight pipe it including the catalytic converters
Full straight pipe
Is your buddies truck deleted? Also your channel is my favorite on TH-cam.
Thanks!
you should get a pedal commander it will change ur life. i just installed mine last week. no more dead pedal
The tuning by itself got rid of the dead pedal completely. That's what a pedal commander does, it's all tuning.
@@matt13ross Did I miss what tuner you used?
But which tune we as it?
Your buddy is one fortunate dude to be living in Canada! I’m about to make the big move myself and was wondering if you’d be willing to DM me the info on your buddies Canadian exhaust system👏🏼
Sure, send me a message!
yea canada is retarded dude dont move here
Want to delete my 2021 ZR2, but nobody has a tune for the 21. I can get the exhaust. But that won't do any good by itself.
I emailed the guys at hd diesel supply, and they don't have any info on when and/or where to get one for the current model. Any suggestions?
HD diesel supply from Canada has it.
Must be nice my 2016 Colorado with the v6 gets an average of like 16mpg both city and highway. Has a small lift and bigger tires but still
Yea the V6 gets terrible fuel mileage
Dang, I can average 20mpg usually in mine.
I did a trifecta tune in mine and had great improvement in fuel economy and drivability
I would like to know what the quarter mile time is on both maybe a fun experiment let me know if you find out
Super slow and very slow lol
I am surprised at the lack of black smoke under heavy acceleration.
It really barely smokes, pretty clean!
Diesels rolling coal are tuned to roll coal and ruins the engine.
@@herbwheeler4470 no they’re not
@BoostedApex. I’m looking at getting a 2016 ZR1 duramax with 80k I do a ton on interstate driving and need to average about 27. I get about 22 in a good day in my 2017 Ridgeline. Yes, I drive a Honda truck... anywho. My buddies at work all have diesels. They say if I tune and then delete it I’d get about what you got. I’m in KY and it’s pretty hilly. I do about 77 on the interstate. Think I could get 27 with the cruise on???
You could definitely get 27mpg highway.
@@matt13ross awesome. That’s what I was trying to look for! I enjoy watching your videos and keep it up! Gonna go look at it this week!
Thanks, I appreciate the support!
i average 28.5 mpg freeway with my 2017 no tune or mods and average 80mph... but mine isn't a ZR1
Has your friend had any reliability issues with that set up?
None at all!
do tunes void the warranty? or can you uninstall the tune before you go the dealer lol
Definitely void lol
You’re out of Canada? Are the US ZR1s the same, or different?
Merica
Does anyone know if this is just another rebranded Isusu??
Not sure
Yes it's based on the dmaxx. Motors are made In Thailand
You think I can tow a enclosed trailer 7x14 with a zero turn mower and 36 ride stand on mower too is for my company I always want a diesel zr2
Probably. It’s rated for 5000 lbs.
Does that tune still allow you to pass emissions?
If you change emission equipment, you’ll fail inspection depending on your state or county.
Were both trucks in the stock vs altered exhaust ZR2s ??
I'm not sure what you mean.
You need to do a launch in it on the road so we can see how much coal rollin it does
I’d only do that off road. But I really don’t think much it seems to run clean.
@@matt13ross it sounds really good for a 4 cylinder
@@sethg.7158 I thought so too
I have the same exhaust and you will love it if you get that muffler out of the way. Go straight pipe and enjoy 😉
Too loud lol
Which exhaust is it? The link doesn't work. Can you point me to it please?
@@matt13ross Can you share which tuner was used? Love that set up. Thanks
@@10MinutestoRouletteFortune check out HD supply. He got the tuner there (as did I snd it’s the exact same thing) and they offer a 3” pipe with the tune for $588). They only offer like 3 products for 18-21 Colorado duramax
@@georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 I also used them.
Who made the exhaust tip?
Amazon or eBay.
did I just see you use your impact driver as a torque wrench?
Absolutely did!
Did I miss where it said what brand the tune is?
Prior video, but in the comment section it says to check out HD supply out of Canada. He’s trying to not get into trouble with YT cause, you know, the thing.
does it have to have the black smoke? just wondering.
It only smokes a little bit from what I've seen. Much less than a full size tuned diesel.
on the plus side, being the smoke is made up of relatively large, heavy particles, it should settle out of the air fairly quickly. And being you now get significantly higher fuel economy, there's actually LESS pollution, as long as the emission control hardware is still on your truck. Thanks for the quick reply. I love your truck, BTW!
Thanks!
is there a cold air intake on it or stock i thinking going back to stock
Stock intake. Not sure if there is a benefit to aftermarket.
The reason why I'm asking is because my truck came with a cold air intake I didn't put it on and I'm having a horrible time finding an air filter for it I need it replaced and it keeps on throwing codes because of it but I don't know if they are ever going to get it a tree in stock so I was thinking about just going back to the stock filter box
What code and what intake? Can you hear more turbo noises or anything else with the intake?
I do hear a little bit of a turbo it's a air raid filter and it is out of stock and they don't know when they'll get them back into stock but I would clean it but it is too dirty to clean
@@nathanyoung3158 if you have the stock one laying around I’d just put it on.
is your buddy investing into a cold air intake aswell?
Meh, I don't know. I have never been a fan of intakes, don't think they do much.
They don’t with this platform
@@matt13ross thanks for the vids. Enjoying them. I live in Cali and there's no way I could get away with the exhaust mod even though I would do it in a heartbeat. I did do the SB filters intake though and gave me a little extra noise and I can pass a smog check. For me it helped with the throttle response and a little mpgs. I don't regret it.
Also a tuned turn signal light 13:39 😅
So your buddies truck is tuned and straight piped?
Yes
What tuner is used in this video?
Yes which tuner are you using? I have a 5 switchable from duramaxtuner but I don’t get 35mpg I have seen 28 though
What motors in these? 2.8 diesel 4cyl?
Yup that's the one
@@matt13ross wonder if its the same as whats in australia's version of a colorado 2.8 diesel cummins, tuned they make around 180-200rwhp and 550nm but in a ute that wieghs little over 2T, not like your american trucks haha.
Hrm, I’d imagine it’s very similar
Its quite possible that the tuning F'd up the computer mileage estimates...... IMO highly unlikely changes would yeild a 30% increase......... Cool mods though :)
I think a 30% increase is believable on a diesel.
someone doesn't know how deleting a diesel works..
would adding a tune to my 2022 canyon void the warranty
Yes
As someone with a 22 canyon myself, wait. You have a 3 year bumper to bumper. It’s gonna have issues, wait till you’ve used that up then consider.. “weight reduction” and reprogramming lol.
You need to get a big intercooler that will make the biggest difference
Mine is producing 151 kW @ 3600rpm and 580 Newton metres of torque at the wheels
And this is done with a chip and a Tune straight pipe snorkel big intercooler and K&N filter♠️♦️
I thought about an intercooler, but probably after a turbo upgrade.
Hold up... I average 21 MPG in my 2016 V6 Colorado and my best is 34.3 MPG. Am I getting old??
I haven’t heard of anyone getting that mileage on a gas Colorado. What sub model?
@@matt13ross It’s an LT with the 6 speed automatic. Extended cab, not crew cab.
Not being a ZR2 helps too. Must drive very slowly lol.
@@matt13ross Confirmed: I’m getting old then.
The ZR2 is waaaayyy different. V6 I get 18ish all around
Why don’t you fellas put dual stacks, like my 41/4 Cat Peterbuilt😂
Were both ZR2s?
Yes, same spec ZR2s.
Can you do a straight pipe pleaseeee
Working on it!
so what is the tune for it
HD diesel
ok thanks i plan on getting that next year then for my diesel zr2 i got about 75000 miles on it now just have had for a year and its my daily driver
@@nathanyoung3158 I’ve had mine about 2 years
nice i have 50000 in one year so next year i will have to do the timing belt and the tuner too hopefully at once should be fun
who makes the tune?
HD diesel
Dyno numbers ?
Probably like 150hp 300 tq lol
Looked better without the tip
It’s a good little motor but don’t go crazy with the tunes.
I see a lot of these blowing up. I believe they are running close to max with a stock tune.
Remember it’s only 2.8 litres.
If you run it hard with a high output tune ....... Good luck on life expectancy......
Yea I’ve read of some stories. This is a general mild tune, 49hp 70tq.
656 likes
hood stack time
It’s coming. I have all the parts and just got new gas for my welder :)
@@matt13ross I do have some questions about this setup for my *Canadian friend's 2016 LWN. Can I send you an email?
Yea that’s fine
your best ever wasnt 29, that was just the best you achieved in those 50 miles. im sure youve done better without knowing
also the tuned truck you averaged 30 and bested 35.
Is egr, dpf and def still in play here?
it wouldn't smoke if it still had a dpf.
That is a isuzu japan engine?
Umm sure?
Thailand
It's a VM diesel from Italy, designed in part by GM. GM bought part of the company from Penske then Fiat bought the other part. GM sold their part to Fiat and kept the design that is now being build at a new factory in Thailand. Jeep and Dodge ECO Diesels are also built by VM and share some parts.
I really really hope someone will come up with a delete for my LM2 , in the end you can’t live in Alberta and have an emission compliant diesel Lol
Not gonna happen, which sucks!
@@matt13ross why do you think like that ?! Be positive
No deletes for new engines anymore. And that's been our for years.
@@matt13ross if nothing comes up I’ll trade it for a l5p
need to do actual gallons to miles,
I live in California which makes me have smog checks on my ZR2 Diesel 🤬
Same, debating on doing a def delete or not
You're SOL then, lol
I don't live in Cali, but I don't see how anyone could really get away with that there.
Don’t worry we have illegal smog check in Cali and we pass fine if u have a vehicle that doesn’t pass cali emisiones and laws
@@aceinternational4788 thank you !
still slow, but so is my tdi jetta
Ha, yup!
Where is the hood stack. You are over 1k likes
Check the rest of my videos lol. Stacked it years ago.
stock has a way better idle sound
Stock idle is silent lol
@@matt13ross Yea but its hard to tell when the microphone is right on it. I really like the the after market exhaust but that bubbly noise at idle sounds kinda strange
I think you'd like it in person. Honestly my favorite part is the idle and low revs. High revs it doesn't sound great IMO.
Yea I wanted to buy the mini duramax but the only ones I can find are like 40 grand
Most are closer to 50K.
I have an eco diesel wrangler.............. makes more power stock than that ever will..... banks tuner and I get 30 mpg highway 18 in 4lo crawling...... and around 540 or so tq from the crank.. buddy of mine is trying to beat me with his baby duramax..... I hope he wins cause I like chevys but I really think it's a lost cause.....
Right, the Wrangler has a larger newer V6, much more power than the I4 Duramax for sure.
I get 17.5 mpg in my Zr2 2.8 duramax. WTH 🤦
Something wrong there!
Me too... 17 mpg. It there a reason its so low?
My man, i need help
How can I assist?
I got this DEF/dpf problem, looking to solve this permanently
Just put the Pedal Commander in and be done!
That doesn't add any power.
Diesel is too small as 4 cylinders. Need minimum of 6 cylinder. The truck has only baby diesel and it sounds like it too. Little baby sound.
It is a baby, and in a baby truck