I got the Cielo X1 (sale) and Pro 4 yesterday. First run in the Cielo last night and loved the bounce and ride. Pro 4 being saved for the marathon and some long runs soon but they have taken soft and bouncy to another level from house walking/running
So my rotation at the moment are the Pro 4's, Prime X Strung 2's, Mach X2's. I have really been enjoying the Pro 4's for a quicker pace along with the Mach's, and the Strung X 2' for longer journeys. I feel like I have a nice rotation for the time being until some other fun stuff comes out later in the year.
I have all of these (Edge instead of Paris). Here is my order of preference. 1. Metaspeed Paris Edge for speed, comfort and distance. 2. Nike Alphafly for speed. 3. Adios Pro 4 for distance, and 4. Puma for the trash.
Woot? Why for the trash? I don't have the DNE3, but DNE2 which is just a little lighter DN3, which is a bit better DN2. And I love the VN3 and the VN2 i will use as a sneaker. Well, maybe i try to run in it. Perfect fit for me, perfect foam with less give for a heavier guy, outstanding rubber, good upper and laces, no fuzz, no annoyances. And all that for a better price than all the other companies! What more can I want? Seriously thinking about selling ALL other running shoed and go all Puma lol. Well, i haven't run enough in the Superblast und i got the Noosa Tri 15 in all colours because of the colours ;)
I feel like I’m cheating on my Alphaflys when I wear the pro 4s but they’re really good. I’m sorry Nike, can I have 2 favourites 😬. Awesome video Ed, thank you!! 🙏🏾 😊
Just got mine today! Did not manage to run yet, but the feeling is AMAZING! So excited. Ps - I sized up from Adios Pro 3 (45.1/3 to 46) and they fit perfectly. The foam is soo bouncy its crazy, and super upper.
100% agree with locking the heel into the back to confirm the size! But you're also a TTS Takumi Sen 10 lunatic! I will probably get the pro 4 eventually, but just got the Sky Paris and am loving them - reminds me of the AP3 but more stable + an actual upper.
Hahaha,I was wondering,the Pro4 seem to have made you look 20 years younger,being less hairy and perhaps more aerodynamic 😂 ,much better!🎉❤😅,good video👍
Hi, I am considering between the AP4 & Metaspeed edge/sky. Will be using it mainly for a shorter distance like up to 5k and would prefer comfort, bounce, and propulsion. Which one will you recommend? Thanks in advance
So far, so good. I did one run yesterday in them and another today in the AF3. They're both great, but I find that I'm really grinding up the heel on the AF3. Too much exposed Zoom-X. We'll see how the AP4 holds up.
Thanks, I’m looking at the same shoes. Loved the AP3s, does the extra squishyness in the AP4s make them unstable? I over pronate but not had any issues with the 3s 🤔
Have you heard the awful suction noise the pro 4 makes if you land in the heel area, sounds terrible 😳 I never had any issues with sizing thankfully, but the upper is a bit more of a snug fit over the toes so one to watch out for. The pro 4 probably won't be a marathon distance shoe for me, half-marathon, absolutely, but after my initial runs, I'm not sure how much my legs will react to that really soft lightstrike pro foam after 18+ miles, will be putting them to the long run test soon to find out 😊
@@EDDBUDhe references Yowanas video. He thinks the back part of the outer shoe is a complete misconstruction, because it is so soft, that when the heel is fully into the ground, there is suction effect with every step which feels like holding you back. Also the middle part between those things you touch the ground with the heel gets dirty, which means that the foam compresses all the way down to the ground at that part. He suggests fill this cutout with foam or make the foam there firmer to mitigate this problem. Du to him, he isn't shure how this misconstruction has passed quality control or even the design team. Funny, I're read seen or heard that nowhere else! I guess the other reviewers don't have that problem. Anyway, this super duper Marathon shoes are designed for the 50-60kg Athletes, sure this is too soft for a bit “firmer" everyday person ;)
Given I have all the shoes to follow. Although I like the endorphin pro 4 , it is not comparable to alphafly 3 nor adios pro 4, maybe it is closer to the vaporfly 3
How many miles would you put on this shoe before a race? I’m trying to figure out if I can use a single pair to trial them before a marathon for a couple of long runs and some intervals and then use the same pair for the race …
The UK 13/US 13.5 I ordered in the Pro 4 which is 0.5 less than my normal adidas size UK 13.5/US 14 which is seemingly not being made came today. Sadly it just feels too short which kind of makes sense as nobody is seemingly sizing down in this one. I will have to look out for a bigger size in time. A UK 14 is seemingly being made and it may well be I need that full size more than this one I tried.
@@EDDBUD yeah but not unexpected given I haven't worn anything other than my "TTS" in anything for sometime now. I have ordered those Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3 - sort of instead. You and FOD Runner "influenced" me :)
Thanks for the excellent comparison review Edd! I agree with you regarding the wider base on the Adios Pro 4. You can forgive those extra few grams for the increased stability and comfort for those long hard efforts. I noticed the majority of Japanese Hakone Ekiden runners chose the Adidas brand this year which is saying something (either the Pro 4 or Pro EVO 1). In popularity, Asics were 2nd, closely followed by Nike 3rd, then Puma 4th. I'm hoping you are able to get your hands on the Brooks Hyperion Elite 4 PB to test too. So many good shoes and there is very little to separate them these days.
I know it’s silly but the thing that’s put me off the Puma is that it doesn’t look ‘special’ or ‘racey’ enough. It looks basically identical to the velocity. Just kind of bugs me…
I have both shoes and I know what you mean. I can tell they were definitely made on the same factory line, but VN3 has more padding. The DNE3 though is much, much faster than the VN3. They’re both great shoes
Love the Alphafly V1 and V2.. Just got Alphafly V3 on sale for €179 🎉🎉🎉. I think the Edge Paris is a better comparison than the sky Paris against the Adidas Pro 4.
Thanks for putting in the time and effort to make these great videos for us runners. 🙏🏾👏🏽 💯%
My pleasure! Thanks for the super support
Lovely to hear shout out for men's mental health, which is my line of work. It's good to talk lads.
Too often we soak up the sadness. With no release.
✊ Powerful finale, Edd. 👍
It’s been a tough start! Hang in there all
I got the Cielo X1 (sale) and Pro 4 yesterday. First run in the Cielo last night and loved the bounce and ride. Pro 4 being saved for the marathon and some long runs soon but they have taken soft and bouncy to another level from house walking/running
So my rotation at the moment are the Pro 4's, Prime X Strung 2's, Mach X2's. I have really been enjoying the Pro 4's for a quicker pace along with the Mach's, and the Strung X 2' for longer journeys. I feel like I have a nice rotation for the time being until some other fun stuff comes out later in the year.
Man I love these reviews! Great work mate
Loving your work Ed, thanks for the reviews! 🙏
My pleasure!
Keep up the videos Edd we love them ❤
Great video Edd, I’ve got a brand new unused pair of Sky Paris. But I still want the Pro 4
Nailed it bro!
I have all of these (Edge instead of Paris). Here is my order of preference. 1. Metaspeed Paris Edge for speed, comfort and distance. 2. Nike Alphafly for speed. 3. Adios Pro 4 for distance, and 4. Puma for the trash.
Haha. Perfect feedback
Woot? Why for the trash?
I don't have the DNE3, but DNE2 which is just a little lighter DN3, which is a bit better DN2.
And I love the VN3 and the VN2 i will use as a sneaker. Well, maybe i try to run in it.
Perfect fit for me, perfect foam with less give for a heavier guy, outstanding rubber, good upper and laces, no fuzz, no annoyances.
And all that for a better price than all the other companies!
What more can I want?
Seriously thinking about selling ALL other running shoed and go all Puma lol.
Well, i haven't run enough in the Superblast und i got the Noosa Tri 15 in all colours because of the colours ;)
Great comparison review Edd!
AF3 for the long runs for me.
So excited to try out the adios pro4 but the stable concerns me since I loved how stable the pro3 was
Good insights, Ed. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I feel like I’m cheating on my Alphaflys when I wear the pro 4s but they’re really good. I’m sorry Nike, can I have 2 favourites 😬.
Awesome video Ed, thank you!! 🙏🏾 😊
Just got mine today! Did not manage to run yet, but the feeling is AMAZING! So excited.
Ps - I sized up from Adios Pro 3 (45.1/3 to 46) and they fit perfectly.
The foam is soo bouncy its crazy, and super upper.
Ed that’s exactly the same method I use to lace up the Pro 4 and it works for me. No doubt the Pro 4 is a banger.
100% agree with locking the heel into the back to confirm the size! But you're also a TTS Takumi Sen 10 lunatic! I will probably get the pro 4 eventually, but just got the Sky Paris and am loving them - reminds me of the AP3 but more stable + an actual upper.
Edd for PM!! Fine words at the end there, you are an inspiration.
Too many people get stuck in places they can’t get of.
I have the same size as adios pro 3 and they fit both perfectly
Yeah same here
Hahaha,I was wondering,the Pro4 seem to have made you look 20 years younger,being less hairy and perhaps more aerodynamic 😂 ,much better!🎉❤😅,good video👍
It all happened when I opened the box
Evening all. Excellent comparison. Like to EDDBUD. Have a good day.
What do you think about new vaporfly 4 leaks and stuff?
Fresh shave!
Hi, I am considering between the AP4 & Metaspeed edge/sky. Will be using it mainly for a shorter distance like up to 5k and would prefer comfort, bounce, and propulsion. Which one will you recommend? Thanks in advance
So far, so good. I did one run yesterday in them and another today in the AF3. They're both great, but I find that I'm really grinding up the heel on the AF3. Too much exposed Zoom-X. We'll see how the AP4 holds up.
Thanks, I’m looking at the same shoes.
Loved the AP3s, does the extra squishyness in the AP4s make them unstable? I over pronate but not had any issues with the 3s 🤔
Didn’t find them too unstable
@ Thanks Edd, you’ve helped me decide, I’m going for them 👍🏽
I am definitely getting these, if stocks allow.
I love shoes, like music and also like listening to your voice…😊
We want fun - Andrew W.K. is also awesome. Although i always get a bit nostalgic when that song takes me back to better days.
Have you heard the awful suction noise the pro 4 makes if you land in the heel area, sounds terrible 😳 I never had any issues with sizing thankfully, but the upper is a bit more of a snug fit over the toes so one to watch out for. The pro 4 probably won't be a marathon distance shoe for me, half-marathon, absolutely, but after my initial runs, I'm not sure how much my legs will react to that really soft lightstrike pro foam after 18+ miles, will be putting them to the long run test soon to find out 😊
Didn’t hear that in the splashing last week!
@@EDDBUDhe references Yowanas video.
He thinks the back part of the outer shoe is a complete misconstruction, because it is so soft, that when the heel is fully into the ground, there is suction effect with every step which feels like holding you back.
Also the middle part between those things you touch the ground with the heel gets dirty, which means that the foam compresses all the way down to the ground at that part.
He suggests fill this cutout with foam or make the foam there firmer to mitigate this problem.
Du to him, he isn't shure how this misconstruction has passed quality control or even the design team.
Funny, I're read seen or heard that nowhere else! I guess the other reviewers don't have that problem.
Anyway, this super duper Marathon shoes are designed for the 50-60kg Athletes, sure this is too soft for a bit “firmer" everyday person ;)
This has been sent from the running gods as a sign. ❤️😂
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Adios pro 4 for the W. Sooo bouncy and resilient.
Adios pro 4 is just the best. Period.
Talk of lace, I’ve just ordered a batch of alphafly like laces from aliexpress to use in my pro 4’s lets see how good they are
Andrew WK is the man. And so is Edd Bud.
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Its a bit sad to see the endorphin pro 4 not even in the discussion.
Will do a part 2. Many a super shoe to compare!
Given I have all the shoes to follow. Although I like the endorphin pro 4 , it is not comparable to alphafly 3 nor adios pro 4, maybe it is closer to the vaporfly 3
How many miles would you put on this shoe before a race? I’m trying to figure out if I can use a single pair to trial them before a marathon for a couple of long runs and some intervals and then use the same pair for the race …
Might take them up to 40Ish then leave them fresh. Depends if I can get another pair down the line if they really hit the spot
The UK 13/US 13.5 I ordered in the Pro 4 which is 0.5 less than my normal adidas size UK 13.5/US 14 which is seemingly not being made came today. Sadly it just feels too short which kind of makes sense as nobody is seemingly sizing down in this one. I will have to look out for a bigger size in time. A UK 14 is seemingly being made and it may well be I need that full size more than this one I tried.
That’s a shame Tim. Sad to hear they didn’t work out
@@EDDBUD yeah but not unexpected given I haven't worn anything other than my "TTS" in anything for sometime now. I have ordered those Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3 - sort of instead. You and FOD Runner "influenced" me :)
Thanks for the excellent comparison review Edd! I agree with you regarding the wider base on the Adios Pro 4. You can forgive those extra few grams for the increased stability and comfort for those long hard efforts. I noticed the majority of Japanese Hakone Ekiden runners chose the Adidas brand this year which is saying something (either the Pro 4 or Pro EVO 1). In popularity, Asics were 2nd, closely followed by Nike 3rd, then Puma 4th. I'm hoping you are able to get your hands on the Brooks Hyperion Elite 4 PB to test too. So many good shoes and there is very little to separate them these days.
Edd Clean Shave Budd❤
thank you
You're welcome
I've always wanted to go to Seville, where is it?... Enjoy!
I hear they have some cheap oranges.
oy! i see the razor paid you a visit 😁
Sorry i’m late 😂. I bought my adios pro4 today
You and me both. Looking forward to trying them out.
AP4 top shoe for 2025!
🎼🎶🎵 but hooow loong will the squash be holdin' on??
Nice 🎉
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I know it’s silly but the thing that’s put me off the Puma is that it doesn’t look ‘special’ or ‘racey’ enough. It looks basically identical to the velocity. Just kind of bugs me…
I have both shoes and I know what you mean. I can tell they were definitely made on the same factory line, but VN3 has more padding. The DNE3 though is much, much faster than the VN3. They’re both great shoes
The new colorway dispels this!
Just draw on racing stripes and your favourite racing number with a permanent marker.
@@davidh5429hahaha, nailed it 😂
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Love the Alphafly V1 and V2.. Just got Alphafly V3 on sale for €179 🎉🎉🎉. I think the Edge Paris is a better comparison than the sky Paris against the Adidas Pro 4.
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