People don't give enough credit to the Babylon Rogue's designs, specifically Jet's. Having him contrast with Sonic with not only being a bird, an animal that's fast in the air, but also his color scheme, with him being green with blue irises, while Sonic is blue with green irises. He just looks cool in general and is probably my favorite Sonic rival next to Metal Sonic.
Knuckles always was a treasure hunter. It’s one of his favourite pastimes. He says so in the OVA. Rouge even calls him one before their character battle in SA2, and so does Sonic before Death Chamber. The recent TailsTube confirms that he explores Angel Island and discovers new things “every day” while finding it fascinating. Zero Gravity actually is a highlight for the character for me.
About 28:00 From what I remember Knuckles has been stated several times to be a treasure hunter on the side, or at least he USED to be. It doesn't come up in games much anymore but I always thought that's what led into Rouge's theme of jewel THIEF, to be the antagonist to his regular hunting methods
Yeah it's kind of his side thing when he's not protecting the island or hanging out with sonic. I don't think we've ever seen him actually do much treasure hunting but it's been mentioned a few times.
Seeing Jet and Sonic cross paths in that x-formation as a parallel to Sonic Adventure 2 makes me happy every time I see it. Jet deserves a chance to be in other games. Who decided not to include the Babylon Rogues in Team Sonic Racing?
One time I was watching some Riders Gameplay and noticed how similar the Level design is to Boost Levels. It made me think that Sonic Team should take the whole 3 Laps thing for Boost Level in the Next Mainline game to make them Last Longer than 1 minute. They’d just have to modify the level design for every lap so they don’t get stale
Some of the Unleashed DLC levels do that actually! There's one Cool Edge level that does have sonic taking three laps around the same area and there's new obstacles on every lap! It was a really hard level though because the thing had you running on water the whole time
This is absolutely hilarious! I’m watching this video with a huge smile on my face! Hoping to see you grow in likes and subscribers very soon, and I can’t wait to see more of your videos! Also the “after bailing Knuckles out-“ after saying Knuckles might get arrested was absolutely clever!
13:15 I had the ps2 version. I don't remember much how exactly but if you lingered arround the start without pressing buttons the tutorial would also appear. I was lucky at the time to watch it play and i really liked sonic riders from that point on. Have you tried mission mode? I don't remember much but it also offered quite the challenge, specially to unlock everything needing to get the max rank. And i loved to speedrun the races. Also there is the mechanic of jumping "higher" or jumping "foward" to get to the tracks above which are shortcuts, holding the jump button while pressing fowards (foward jump) or backwards (high jump). Imagine young me when i really liked sonic riders, being excited for a new sonic riders game, only to find out Zero gravity is not as skill-based as the previous one. I still liked Zero gravity. But then i was older. I was like "U'm all the sequels of sonic riders. I have playstation 3, surely the sequel will come out in this console..." ...Then free riders came out only for x box and only with kinect. -and the funny thing is that there is this game for ps2 called "eye toy antigrav"- -Is it a coincidence or did they have a good game idea and then they went and did the mario kart thing again. im still enraged.-
I actually haven't had a chance to check out mission mode, I usually don't go out of my way to do the optional content in a sonic game (I hate getting the chaos emeralds in the 2D games) but if it's just more Sonic Riders content then I'll probably check it out at some point. I did eventually learn the jumping higher and forward mechanic near the tail end of my first playthrough when I was stuck on Dark Desert for so long so I looked up why my opponents kept landing further than me off jumps and found out that's why. Free Riders ruins all good things. Thanks for watching!
It's not a bad game at all, it's just not what I personally wanted from a sequel to riders but I'm glad you were able to find more enjoyment in it than I could. Thanks for watching!
Do some research & check out the mods of Sonic Riders: Riders DX 2.0 & Sonic Tournament. you get a whole bunch of re-balancing and lots of new stuff with either mod. Apparently, Zero gravity has a mod called Regravitified, too.
Sonic Riders is my favourite racing game. I grinded it into dust as a kid, and picked it up again a few years ago, still amazed by how fun the gameplay is. Sadly, the game is pretty lacking in content with a measly 15 racetracks, and a forgettable battle mode. I was very excited for Zero Gravity, only to find out that the gameplay was changed drastically and taking away the things that I found fun in the original Riders game. I still don't like it. Also, I imagine Sonic drives a car in most racing games just for the fun of it, nothing deep about that.
Yeah Riders really set the groundwork for an incredible sequel that we just never got since Zero Gravity and Free Riders just did their own thing. Hopefully sometime in the future we'll get a 4th game that's more like the first
Fun fact about speed characters' grind rails, you don't have to press the jump button when you're near them, just at some point between entering the air and passing the grind rail. You can test this on Sky Road; open the race with a high jump on the right(?) side of the ramp, press the jump button at your peak, and you should just start grinding on the rail when you land. Double jumping essentially places the character in a grind state, which I assume is far easier to track AND pull off than just having you press the jump button near a grind rail.
I suggest you to spend atleast a month on Free Riders in the Tutorial and Levels (outside & inside Story even though it sucks far more than Zero Gravity) before planning a video because characters don't response right with inputs and it took a long time to figure out why I struggled so much. Super Sonic's flight and personality is complimented by Sonic's Blue Star especially with his X Rank Freestyle Trick, should've talked about that in video. The Magic Carpet, Digital Dimension, technology Wave knows of for Extreme Gear and all the stuff we've seen in the first game such as on level Babylon Garden makes Zero Gravity's extra hints clear that they're decendants of Aliens and it is necessary to have the additional secrets and things revealed to us.
Yeah it’ll be a while before I play Free Riders (still don’t have the correct Kinect lol) but when I do I’ll do my best to learn how to actually make the game work properly haha. Thanks for watching!
Zero Gravity's got a soft spot for me. Played it a ton as a kid and it sparked an interest in hoverboards for me. For Sonic in particular tho, it feels perfect for him if he had to ride anything. Got no idea why they don't pop up more. I never played the original. Honestly didn't even know it existed until years later, but even then didn't have a way to play it. Nobody likes downgrades, but I can see why they did it. Especially when I think about how it was basically the only game all the kids wanted to play at summer school during break.
Sonic Riders was amazing, I always played the original from time to time. Have such fond memories of this game despite the fact I never knew all the mechanics
All of it just clicked with me as a kid so I never considered how little they explained how to do anything. It explains why I've seen so many people dislike it over the years.
From what I’ve heard Sonic want to play fair because if he used his speed then it’s unfair so yeah that’s why he’s in a car. Also still desperately finding a gamecube memory card and a copy of Sonic Riders/Shadow the Hedgehog
How can you not mention Splash Canyon's theme from the first Riders, that's a banger to Also, fun fact: Knuckles is a treasure hunter, always has been even before SA1&2 actually, I believe the Japanese manuals mention this Even if not, it's not hard to believe that he came to like Treasure Hunting after the events of the Adventure games
Honestly, the fact that Jet and the Babylonians were referenced in Frontiers gives me hope that maybe we will see this side series come back soon.
Fingers crossed 🤞
People don't give enough credit to the Babylon Rogue's designs, specifically Jet's. Having him contrast with Sonic with not only being a bird, an animal that's fast in the air, but also his color scheme, with him being green with blue irises, while Sonic is blue with green irises. He just looks cool in general and is probably my favorite Sonic rival next to Metal Sonic.
Perfect Rivals
Jet is based, I thought it was cool when he showed up in the IDW comics but I want him and the rest of his team back in another game
Knuckles always was a treasure hunter. It’s one of his favourite pastimes. He says so in the OVA. Rouge even calls him one before their character battle in SA2, and so does Sonic before Death Chamber. The recent TailsTube confirms that he explores Angel Island and discovers new things “every day” while finding it fascinating. Zero Gravity actually is a highlight for the character for me.
About 28:00
From what I remember Knuckles has been stated several times to be a treasure hunter on the side, or at least he USED to be. It doesn't come up in games much anymore but I always thought that's what led into Rouge's theme of jewel THIEF, to be the antagonist to his regular hunting methods
Yeah it's kind of his side thing when he's not protecting the island or hanging out with sonic. I don't think we've ever seen him actually do much treasure hunting but it's been mentioned a few times.
True
Seeing Jet and Sonic cross paths in that x-formation as a parallel to Sonic Adventure 2 makes me happy every time I see it. Jet deserves a chance to be in other games. Who decided not to include the Babylon Rogues in Team Sonic Racing?
Who needs the Babylon Rogues when we got fan favorite Zavok!
😭
@@JonathanAllen191 please, Zavok is such a pain what’s wrong with Sega
One time I was watching some Riders Gameplay and noticed how similar the Level design is to Boost Levels. It made me think that Sonic Team should take the whole 3 Laps thing for Boost Level in the Next Mainline game to make them Last Longer than 1 minute. They’d just have to modify the level design for every lap so they don’t get stale
Some of the Unleashed DLC levels do that actually! There's one Cool Edge level that does have sonic taking three laps around the same area and there's new obstacles on every lap! It was a really hard level though because the thing had you running on water the whole time
I know Rooftop Run Act 2 in Sonic Unleashed has that method, but it's more of homing things in the air than boosting
Eh not really
You make insane quality videos man, you deserve way more attention. I'm looking forward to all the reviews you're looking to do down the road!
Hey thank you so much! I really do appreciate it!
This is absolutely hilarious! I’m watching this video with a huge smile on my face! Hoping to see you grow in likes and subscribers very soon, and I can’t wait to see more of your videos!
Also the “after bailing Knuckles out-“ after saying Knuckles might get arrested was absolutely clever!
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
13:15 I had the ps2 version. I don't remember much how exactly but if you lingered arround the start without pressing buttons the tutorial would also appear. I was lucky at the time to watch it play and i really liked sonic riders from that point on.
Have you tried mission mode? I don't remember much but it also offered quite the challenge, specially to unlock everything needing to get the max rank. And i loved to speedrun the races.
Also there is the mechanic of jumping "higher" or jumping "foward" to get to the tracks above which are shortcuts, holding the jump button while pressing fowards (foward jump) or backwards (high jump).
Imagine young me when i really liked sonic riders, being excited for a new sonic riders game, only to find out Zero gravity is not as skill-based as the previous one. I still liked Zero gravity.
But then i was older. I was like "U'm all the sequels of sonic riders. I have playstation 3, surely the sequel will come out in this console..."
...Then free riders came out only for x box and only with kinect.
-and the funny thing is that there is this game for ps2 called "eye toy antigrav"-
-Is it a coincidence or did they have a good game idea and then they went and did the mario kart thing again. im still enraged.-
I actually haven't had a chance to check out mission mode, I usually don't go out of my way to do the optional content in a sonic game (I hate getting the chaos emeralds in the 2D games) but if it's just more Sonic Riders content then I'll probably check it out at some point. I did eventually learn the jumping higher and forward mechanic near the tail end of my first playthrough when I was stuck on Dark Desert for so long so I looked up why my opponents kept landing further than me off jumps and found out that's why.
Free Riders ruins all good things.
Thanks for watching!
“Anyone can drive a car… LOOK!” 😂
ANYONE!....except me maybe
the duality of surfboarding hedgehogs...
Society peaked in 2006
I'm only a minute in and I can tell you right now this video and your channel is going to blow up.
That means a lot thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Zero Gravity is good. IDK why people hate it so much.
It's not a bad game at all, it's just not what I personally wanted from a sequel to riders but I'm glad you were able to find more enjoyment in it than I could. Thanks for watching!
I will continue watching your journey. Good luck.
I appreciate it! I'm gonna need all the luck I can get haha
Good luck with reviewing all the games, your videos are great!
Thank you! I'm gonna need all the luck I can get haha
Finding out how to fly properly was a struggle, i kept holding forward and basically face planting 😭
Yup same, I cut it from the video but I did also struggle for the longest time holding up after a flight pad and just dropping like a rock 😂
Do some research & check out the mods of Sonic Riders: Riders DX 2.0 & Sonic Tournament. you get a whole bunch of re-balancing and lots of new stuff with either mod. Apparently, Zero gravity has a mod called Regravitified, too.
I'll definitely check it out, I'm especially curious what modders have done to Zero Gravity
15:59 that line is hilarious
Sonic Riders is my favourite racing game. I grinded it into dust as a kid, and picked it up again a few years ago, still amazed by how fun the gameplay is. Sadly, the game is pretty lacking in content with a measly 15 racetracks, and a forgettable battle mode.
I was very excited for Zero Gravity, only to find out that the gameplay was changed drastically and taking away the things that I found fun in the original Riders game. I still don't like it.
Also, I imagine Sonic drives a car in most racing games just for the fun of it, nothing deep about that.
Yeah Riders really set the groundwork for an incredible sequel that we just never got since Zero Gravity and Free Riders just did their own thing. Hopefully sometime in the future we'll get a 4th game that's more like the first
great video dude
Thanks for watching!
Fun fact about speed characters' grind rails, you don't have to press the jump button when you're near them, just at some point between entering the air and passing the grind rail. You can test this on Sky Road; open the race with a high jump on the right(?) side of the ramp, press the jump button at your peak, and you should just start grinding on the rail when you land. Double jumping essentially places the character in a grind state, which I assume is far easier to track AND pull off than just having you press the jump button near a grind rail.
another EPIC review from the biggest sonic fan himself
Anything for our blue boy!
Can Sonic ride through a drive thru? He’s lookin kinda skinny
You gotta help him get a big ol order
I suggest you to spend atleast a month on Free Riders in the Tutorial and Levels (outside & inside Story even though it sucks far more than Zero Gravity) before planning a video because characters don't response right with inputs and it took a long time to figure out why I struggled so much.
Super Sonic's flight and personality is complimented by Sonic's Blue Star especially with his X Rank Freestyle Trick, should've talked about that in video.
The Magic Carpet, Digital Dimension, technology Wave knows of for Extreme Gear and all the stuff we've seen in the first game such as on level Babylon Garden makes Zero Gravity's extra hints clear that they're decendants of Aliens and it is necessary to have the additional secrets and things revealed to us.
Yeah it’ll be a while before I play Free Riders (still don’t have the correct Kinect lol) but when I do I’ll do my best to learn how to actually make the game work properly haha. Thanks for watching!
@@JonathanAllen191 Honestly just watch existing footage of game and look up info on Extreme Gear & stuff, it's for the best.
You should definitely consider checking out Sonic Riders DX and Regravitified on Extreme Gear Labs if you love the Riders series.
I’ll definitely have to check em out sometime! Thanks for watching!
Zero Gravity's got a soft spot for me. Played it a ton as a kid and it sparked an interest in hoverboards for me. For Sonic in particular tho, it feels perfect for him if he had to ride anything. Got no idea why they don't pop up more.
I never played the original. Honestly didn't even know it existed until years later, but even then didn't have a way to play it. Nobody likes downgrades, but I can see why they did it. Especially when I think about how it was basically the only game all the kids wanted to play at summer school during break.
18:03
"WAIT JET LOOK OUT!"
"AAGH-"
Sonic Riders was amazing, I always played the original from time to time. Have such fond memories of this game despite the fact I never knew all the mechanics
Riders and transformed are the best sonic racing games
Just like the frontiers vid this one is awesome glad to see that you like the riders games cause I know I do XD
Haha it took a while for me to get there, but I’m glad I ended up liking riders as much as I did too. Thanks for watching!
@@JonathanAllen191 thank you for making all this awesome stuff
All of it just clicked with me as a kid so I never considered how little they explained how to do anything. It explains why I've seen so many people dislike it over the years.
I wish it didn't take 17 years for it to also click with me, but I'm glad it eventually did because Riders is great
Bring back Good Jonathan, cancel Evil Jonathan
We're all definitely good....probably
From what I’ve heard Sonic want to play fair because if he used his speed then it’s unfair so yeah that’s why he’s in a car. Also still desperately finding a gamecube memory card and a copy of Sonic Riders/Shadow the Hedgehog
My one hope for the sonic series at this point is for a riders remake/remaster. This game could be gorgeous on modern consoles!
That would be very welcome, especially if it leads into a sequel sometime down the line
27:59 Jet your sonic is slipping
How can you not mention Splash Canyon's theme from the first Riders, that's a banger to
Also, fun fact: Knuckles is a treasure hunter, always has been even before SA1&2 actually, I believe the Japanese manuals mention this
Even if not, it's not hard to believe that he came to like Treasure Hunting after the events of the Adventure games
WHY IS HE IN A CAR?!?!?!
LET HIM OUT!!!!!
@@JonathanAllen191 WHY SONIC NOT WIN OLYMPICS????
@@EmoDream9 HE'S NOT FAST ENOUGH
@@EmoDream9 HE GOT ARRESTED FOR DRIVING UNDERAGE
@@natashahui GO TO JAIL SONIC
I love sonic riders. It's literally my favorite racing game and I really want the riders series to return. Zero gravity was kind of a downgrade tho
how the fuck does this video only have 800 views?
2:44
Free Riders is pain
WE DON'T USE THE C WORD
NO WE DO NOT
You sound kinda like Sonic😆
WhAt? the story is increadible easier than the main line, the duck?
what about the play station 2 version of zero gravity? huh?
its because sonic is too fast to race against others and having a fair race
I love this series and Sega ruined it.
Fingers crossed they bring it back someday