Just saw this video and wow you're underrated. I'm a D1 defender of this game but im glad your criticisms were of good faith, instead of directly ignoring the good parts of the game and overexaggerating the bad parts like most reviewers do. Alot of the bad dialouge and plot were the english localizations fault, althought there is still issues in the japanese. Anyways based video will be subbing
Appreciate you for watching! I always try to be fair about the good and bad parts of games I either like or dislike because I think it helps my overall argument instead of just coming across as a hater. I’m getting a lot of comments about the poor English script and I genuinely don’t know how I’ve never heard it was the dub’s fault for so many weird choices, I should check out the Japanese version at some point.
I really love how much SA2 fanservice is in this game, it feels much more tasteful than cramming Green Hill Zone down our throats like recent Sonic games. Similar to Metroid games, we get to see past locations return and be expanded upon, like how Prison Island collapsed underground and got flooded with toxins after it blew up in SA2, or getting to see new parts of the ARK, like the lifts and power plants. Bosses like Big Foot have been downgraded to standard enemies, with GUN's new mechs like Blue Falcon being so advanced they can travel to orbit. Not to mention all the returning and remixed songs from SA2, which are a great touch. Frontiers made me forget how Sonic games could actually had the budget and vision to connect in organic ways, and not just through dialogue callbacks. (Oh, and pro tip, you can press d-pad down mid-level to disable all partner characters and their dialogue. You can also press left and right to instantly change your mission selection without having to go to the pause screen)
You know what I can give shadow that, it does do a lot of neat stuff with the continuity and environmental story telling. Also I wish I knew I could turn off the voices a long time ago 😂
There’s a mod for this game that lowers the mission requirements that’s a literal game changer. Opens it up so you can basically choose any path you want at free will without the tediousness
2:38 What happened was GUN becoming suspicious of how long it was taking for Gerald to make progress with Project Shadow, Emerl going on his rampage, and GUN later finding out that Gerald had made a deal with Black Doom to make Shadow. 3:06 The plan was never to kill him. The plan was to have Gerald continue experimenting with Shadow to find the key to immortality with Gerald behind bars. 7:16 Sure, he's being a bit of a dick here in calling average people pathetic (In the Japanese version, he only said he had no reason to help them, which makes sense because throughout the game he's trying to figure out what he should do based on his past. At this point he has no idea if he's been on good terms with them or not.) Secondly, Shadow saying he has to believe Black Doom at the start was only in the English translation. What he actually said in the Japanese version is that he's going to go after the Chaos Emeralds because they will grant him a wish, that being his memories. And as for the President pardoning Gerald, that was also only in the English version. He said GUN was going to make up for what they did to the people they killed on the Ark in the Japanese version. 21:18 That is very much the point of the game. From Maria to Gerald, Eggman, Black Doom, Sonic & co, everyone has always old Shadow what to do. This is one of the reasons why he decides "Fuck it, I'm choosing for myself what to do going forward" in the Last Story. 27:31 It's funny you bring that up. Expert Mode, set after the Last Story, confirms that Shadow did in fact go to Cryptic Castle and that he did in fact save Cream and Cheese. 35:28 He did get the Chaos Emerald, but that's not what the punishment was about. Shadow didn't take down all the GUN soldiers. Black Doom always looked at Shadow as a pawn because he helped make him, and because of the deal with Gerald. 49:37 The funny thing is that the Last Story gave us that exact same thing. 1:00:56 Another example of the English translation being awful. What he actually said in the Japanese version is that the Black Comet is stuck in orbit and can't get to Earth on it's own because of that. 1:05:18 I mean, as per the Japanese version of the game that's very much how Shadow views his past towards the end; Irrelevant trash that he has nothing to do with anymore, and doesn't want any re-establish any ties to it again.
I really like the story & structure of the game tho even I'd smooth out the execution of a few aspects to it. I love how the game makes a point to have all these diff endins to showcase possibilities of wut shadow could've become after these events if things went diff. It shows how experiences shape someone. It also showcases all the things he doesn't end up becomin. He's not humanities protector for maria, he's not an android emperor, he's not suicidal. Doesn't take over or destroy the planet, kill BD(without fightin devil doom or goin super), sonic or Eggman & doesn't become someone elses servant or tool. Even not havin a "canon" path shows not even the player gets to choose wut shadow is & how he gets there. It also fixes issues I had wit shadow in SA2 cus the guy had no will of his own in that game & jus let maria define him all the time. Now he has his own identity separate from the version of himself in SA2. Thx to losin his memories & goin through the events of this game, canonically on his own he gets to no longer be someone defined by his past or by others & charts his own path for himself. It makes him more like sonic but in his own way. Also the localization totally butchered so much of the script it's not even funny. The characters say completely diff things & don't swear anywhere near as much or as cringely as whoever localized this had the eng version do. Like the pres. doesn't thank gerald he thanks shadow
@@JonathanAllen191 Like I said the eng script butchered the story to make it so confusin & idk Y. This isn't the only game in the series. Since the start the localizations of the jp written scripts have been unnecessarily altered or messed up so u get a very diff idea of the story or characters. It's jus a weird thing that happens to Jp games in general & it's been that way since jp to eng localization was a thing. Shadow 05 is the most egregious case in the series. the scripts for 06-BK R much more accurate so those R fine but shadow(& earlier games) needs to be experience wit the jp script to take it in properlly. Things like callbacks to prior lines R so messed up. In SA2 sonic & maria say "adios" to shadow & in eng it was changed to "sayonara". In 05 the jp script has shadow say "adios" to himself at the end but there was some mix up in the eng version so "sayonara" became "goodbye forever" & it's so stupid
What I like about this game = None of it. In my opinion even Sonic 06 is better than this messed up game. PS, You might not know this but, if you think that Shadow saying the swear word: "damn" too many times is crazy, well the language was originally going to be even worse because I heard that SEGA was previously thinking of in the English dialogue also having Shadow be saying the swear word: "f*ck" an amount of times! Not just: damn! Good that they scrapped that idea during this game's developement so that it didn't get put into the final product.
@@JonathanAllen191 Last month a friend helped me get an XBOX 360 console. I first got into playing Sonic Unleashed on it, then since it was mentioned that the final release of the Project-06 fanmade remake won't have the Story Mode and the Hub-Worlds in it, (unless other modders make mods of those parts of that game for it) another person suggested for me to play the original version of that game before trying that PC remake (I haven't found a gaming PC that is strong enough but also not way too expensive, yet). I ordered a used physical copy, and that one hasn't been as totally glitchy as other people said that that game was released as (some glitches instead of too many). So I've been having a good time playing it so-far, and I agree with anyone else who believes that it was technically being made by Sonic Team like a Sonic Adventure 3 game. PS, Beside Sonic and Shadow, Silver is currently my third favorite character in the Sonic franchise, I love that telepathic hedgehog a lot so I'm glad that he's always been a playable character in that game.
Just saw this video and wow you're underrated. I'm a D1 defender of this game but im glad your criticisms were of good faith, instead of directly ignoring the good parts of the game and overexaggerating the bad parts like most reviewers do. Alot of the bad dialouge and plot were the english localizations fault, althought there is still issues in the japanese. Anyways based video will be subbing
Appreciate you for watching! I always try to be fair about the good and bad parts of games I either like or dislike because I think it helps my overall argument instead of just coming across as a hater. I’m getting a lot of comments about the poor English script and I genuinely don’t know how I’ve never heard it was the dub’s fault for so many weird choices, I should check out the Japanese version at some point.
43:13 THAT'S MY GOAT RIGHT THERE 🗣🗣🔥🔥‼‼
(also fire video my guy, that was awesome!)
Glad you enjoyed it man! Thanks again so much for lending your voice throughout! Also.....Vector...........
I really love how much SA2 fanservice is in this game, it feels much more tasteful than cramming Green Hill Zone down our throats like recent Sonic games.
Similar to Metroid games, we get to see past locations return and be expanded upon, like how Prison Island collapsed underground and got flooded with toxins after it blew up in SA2, or getting to see new parts of the ARK, like the lifts and power plants. Bosses like Big Foot have been downgraded to standard enemies, with GUN's new mechs like Blue Falcon being so advanced they can travel to orbit. Not to mention all the returning and remixed songs from SA2, which are a great touch. Frontiers made me forget how Sonic games could actually had the budget and vision to connect in organic ways, and not just through dialogue callbacks.
(Oh, and pro tip, you can press d-pad down mid-level to disable all partner characters and their dialogue. You can also press left and right to instantly change your mission selection without having to go to the pause screen)
You know what I can give shadow that, it does do a lot of neat stuff with the continuity and environmental story telling. Also I wish I knew I could turn off the voices a long time ago 😂
Well done, really enjoyed ur video dude!
Hey thanks for stopping by! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@JonathanAllen191 yeah ofc dude!
Gotta love the dedication that went into this video, keep up the good work man
@@OrangeToadGamer Hey thanks I appreciate it! I hope I can meet expectations in the future!
Shadow 05 is so underrated
@@CaptainF123 it has its good aspects and I’m glad others can enjoy it but it overall just ain’t for me
1 like = 1 shadow motorcycle
There’s a mod for this game that lowers the mission requirements that’s a literal game changer. Opens it up so you can basically choose any path you want at free will without the tediousness
@@KnucklesWTD gosh that sounds amazing, maybe I’ll give it a shot sometime
He will never be forgotten...
@@Unleash_YT just like how we’ll never forget a certain technique 🪡🪡
2:38 What happened was GUN becoming suspicious of how long it was taking for Gerald to make progress with Project Shadow, Emerl going on his rampage, and GUN later finding out that Gerald had made a deal with Black Doom to make Shadow.
3:06 The plan was never to kill him. The plan was to have Gerald continue experimenting with Shadow to find the key to immortality with Gerald behind bars.
7:16 Sure, he's being a bit of a dick here in calling average people pathetic (In the Japanese version, he only said he had no reason to help them, which makes sense because throughout the game he's trying to figure out what he should do based on his past. At this point he has no idea if he's been on good terms with them or not.) Secondly, Shadow saying he has to believe Black Doom at the start was only in the English translation. What he actually said in the Japanese version is that he's going to go after the Chaos Emeralds because they will grant him a wish, that being his memories.
And as for the President pardoning Gerald, that was also only in the English version. He said GUN was going to make up for what they did to the people they killed on the Ark in the Japanese version.
21:18 That is very much the point of the game. From Maria to Gerald, Eggman, Black Doom, Sonic & co, everyone has always old Shadow what to do. This is one of the reasons why he decides "Fuck it, I'm choosing for myself what to do going forward" in the Last Story.
27:31 It's funny you bring that up. Expert Mode, set after the Last Story, confirms that Shadow did in fact go to Cryptic Castle and that he did in fact save Cream and Cheese.
35:28 He did get the Chaos Emerald, but that's not what the punishment was about. Shadow didn't take down all the GUN soldiers. Black Doom always looked at Shadow as a pawn because he helped make him, and because of the deal with Gerald.
49:37 The funny thing is that the Last Story gave us that exact same thing.
1:00:56 Another example of the English translation being awful. What he actually said in the Japanese version is that the Black Comet is stuck in orbit and can't get to Earth on it's own because of that.
1:05:18 I mean, as per the Japanese version of the game that's very much how Shadow views his past towards the end; Irrelevant trash that he has nothing to do with anymore, and doesn't want any re-establish any ties to it again.
This is one of the best games in the Sonic franchise
I really like the story & structure of the game tho even I'd smooth out the execution of a few aspects to it. I love how the game makes a point to have all these diff endins to showcase possibilities of wut shadow could've become after these events if things went diff. It shows how experiences shape someone. It also showcases all the things he doesn't end up becomin. He's not humanities protector for maria, he's not an android emperor, he's not suicidal. Doesn't take over or destroy the planet, kill BD(without fightin devil doom or goin super), sonic or Eggman & doesn't become someone elses servant or tool. Even not havin a "canon" path shows not even the player gets to choose wut shadow is & how he gets there. It also fixes issues I had wit shadow in SA2 cus the guy had no will of his own in that game & jus let maria define him all the time. Now he has his own identity separate from the version of himself in SA2. Thx to losin his memories & goin through the events of this game, canonically on his own he gets to no longer be someone defined by his past or by others & charts his own path for himself. It makes him more like sonic but in his own way. Also the localization totally butchered so much of the script it's not even funny. The characters say completely diff things & don't swear anywhere near as much or as cringely as whoever localized this had the eng version do. Like the pres. doesn't thank gerald he thanks shadow
@@nightlydata2181 wait I genuinely didn’t know he thanked shadow in the original script, why on earth would they change that
@@JonathanAllen191 Like I said the eng script butchered the story to make it so confusin & idk Y. This isn't the only game in the series. Since the start the localizations of the jp written scripts have been unnecessarily altered or messed up so u get a very diff idea of the story or characters. It's jus a weird thing that happens to Jp games in general & it's been that way since jp to eng localization was a thing. Shadow 05 is the most egregious case in the series. the scripts for 06-BK R much more accurate so those R fine but shadow(& earlier games) needs to be experience wit the jp script to take it in properlly. Things like callbacks to prior lines R so messed up. In SA2 sonic & maria say "adios" to shadow & in eng it was changed to "sayonara". In 05 the jp script has shadow say "adios" to himself at the end but there was some mix up in the eng version so "sayonara" became "goodbye forever" & it's so stupid
@@JonathanAllen191 the Japanese version and the English version might aswell be different games in terms of dialouge
Another masterful Jonathan Allen Production. Yes
@@Denymeister it only could’ve been done with a masterful narrator! Thanks again for all the help man!
Wowee my favorite TH-camr talking about my favorite hedgehog!
@@natashahui and my second favorite hedgehog!!!
Yeahhh he’s back!
@@OnFireSports1 😎
You’ll never believe how many burgers and chicken sandwiches I made it through during this video
ITS PEAK GAMING AND I WILL HAVE IT NO OTHER WAY AAAAAHHAHHAHA
It's definitely gaming I can't deny that!
@@JonathanAllen191 PEAK GAMING
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@@JonathanAllen191 YUH HUH
HE'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!
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Featuring a certain non Jonathan Allen individual!
Haha sorry for sniping the question last week. Let’s go for 67 unlocks. RSN Nuya17
What I like about this game = None of it. In my opinion even Sonic 06 is better than this messed up game.
PS, You might not know this but, if you think that Shadow saying the swear word: "damn" too many times is crazy, well the language was originally going to be even worse because I heard that SEGA was previously thinking of in the English dialogue also having Shadow be saying the swear word: "f*ck" an amount of times! Not just: damn! Good that they scrapped that idea during this game's developement so that it didn't get put into the final product.
I also much prefer 06 over this game
@@JonathanAllen191 Last month a friend helped me get an XBOX 360 console. I first got into playing Sonic Unleashed on it, then since it was mentioned that the final release of the Project-06 fanmade remake won't have the Story Mode and the Hub-Worlds in it, (unless other modders make mods of those parts of that game for it) another person suggested for me to play the original version of that game before trying that PC remake (I haven't found a gaming PC that is strong enough but also not way too expensive, yet). I ordered a used physical copy, and that one hasn't been as totally glitchy as other people said that that game was released as (some glitches instead of too many). So I've been having a good time playing it so-far, and I agree with anyone else who believes that it was technically being made by Sonic Team like a Sonic Adventure 3 game.
PS, Beside Sonic and Shadow, Silver is currently my third favorite character in the Sonic franchise, I love that telepathic hedgehog a lot so I'm glad that he's always been a playable character in that game.
Your voice is similar to Roger's Sonic
@@adrianacevedX2 he might just be Roger in disguise for all we know 🤔
GEN Z IS TRYING TO CANCEL SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG
@@nl_morrison he was only “almost” cancelled :)
8:37 GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
@@mostefabob4920 Shadow the hedgehog? No the shadow the AMERICAN!
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