**TREATING FLUKES LERNEX PRO** plus treating koi grow on for blanket weed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
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hello people
in this video I re-scrape my koi and find I still have flukes so I tried treating them with lernex pro
also I found blanket weed in my koi grow on so I treat it with cloverleaf blanket answer
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pond dimensions 11f x 12ft 4ft deep
filters Diy wrighty style 4x barrel system
surface skimmer filtered through a sieve bag (will go to a diy sieve bakki shower at some point)
barrel 1 k1 static bed 75ltr k1 type media
barrel 2 k1 static bed 75ltr k1 type media
barrel 3 k1 and other random plastic media moving bed
barrel 4 static alfagrog and white pumice
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That was actually some great footage on what flukes look like. Many don’t know what to look for and it was quite detailed in appearance.
Hope you keep them away this time!!
Thanks mate hopefully it helps someone identify the little critters. Yeah hopefully this treatment clears them up 🤞🤞
Yes I agree. On the up side, excellent images 👍.
Cheers mate 👍
👍👍 sounds like somthing out of a horror film 👍👍 THE RETURN OF THE FLUKES😱
😂👌 yeah the horrible bloody things
Lil bit of din dins 🤣🤣.... made me chuckle that mucker 👍👌🐟
😂😂 cheers mate hope you're well 👌👍
@@progressivepondkeeping yeh all good mucker thanks and yourself 🐟👌👍
Yes mate no to bad thanks
These flipping little vermin. Hope it works. I wonder what made me barrel smell. Is it the static bed?
I just never want your videos to stop. Please make them a bit longer 🤩
Hello mate yes bloody horrible little things 😫.yes it's a static bed it really stank like dead fish 🤮 I think it will get better as it matures. I always cut lots out of my videos in case they bore people I will make them a little longer in future 😁
@@progressivepondkeeping your videos are far from boring, believe me. They are great. Keep well.
Thanks lau that's made me smile 😊 I'm glad you enjoy my videos 😁😁
Good see you bk sorry about your flukes get ir sorted soon 👍
Cheers Dave fingers crossed this stuff dose the trick 🤞🤞
Hope you can get on top of the flukes adding my second dose of fluke solve the weekend your filters seem to be keeping your water gin clear despite the smell in your barrel could do with some decent weather to get on top of all the jobs
Hello Dave hopefully your second dose dose the job. Yes they seem to be working a treat with clarity and nitrogen cycle touch wood I haven't had anymore smell coming from it since so hopefully it will be fine now 🤞.yes mate I can't wait for the sun to come back vim sick of rain now
Well done buddy 👏 hopefully you can get on top of those bloody flukes.
Take Care,
JMAC 🐟😎👍🏼
Cheers mate fingers crossed this lernex nukes them 🤞🤞
@@progressivepondkeeping it supposed to be the best. I haven't needed to use it yet , Kushuri fluke p has done a good job for me so far.
Take care,
JMAC 🐟😎👍🏼
Yes mate I've heard it's meant to be good lets hope it lives up to it's reputation
Hi mate have y you thought about using a tank connecter on the bottom of the barrel and running a standpipe this is how I do it on my home made easypod and you can then in turn use it also as an overflow.
Good luck with the flukes I've had to dose this spring already but doubt forget that slugs are known for carrying flukes in their slime coats also
I never thought of that I might give it a go thanks. I didn't know about the slugs it makes sense really I'm going on the hunt for slug trails now. Cheers mate 👍
Hi buddy managed to catch you today hope you sort the fluke mate 👍
Hello mate Thanks fingers crossed this stuff dose the trick 🤞🤞
Hi buddy you need a bigger air stones in barrel if it's a moving bed filter I have a 8" airstone in my moving bed filter and have loads and loads of movement your video shows the fluke really really well one off the best vids I've seen on TH-cam to-date
Thanks mark that barrel is a static mechanical I have 2 static k1 beds then a moving bed then alfagrog I only use the air to clean that barrel but yes I still definitely need a larger diameter airline and bigger airstone . Hopefully the scope image of the fluke helps someone identify the little buggers in the future. Thanks mate 👍
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Thanks mate and thanks for watching 👍
That is looking sharp..
Never really had too much problem with flukes.. But I use potassium permanganate twice a season.. Spring and fall .
Those are buggers
Hello Chris hope you're well mate. I've used pp before but hate that it kills the beneficial bacteria pp is normally my last option
Hope you get on top of them flukes mate. Lernex Pro didn't work for me. But pp then sluke solve seems to have. Scrapes all clear now but the fish are still flashing so I'm proper confused now
Next time I try to deal with fluke I'm going to have to strip a bit of slime first I can't be doing with treating this many times. It dose your box in when you have clear scrapes and good water quality and they still flash hopefully it's just the rain water and it will stop as it warms up 🤞
Hope you nail them this time mate Fluke m is the first thing i would have gone for but like you say they are getting better at resisting it
Cheers mate tbh I didn't have much look when I used it although it could of been fluke p a can't remember. I think next time I will try your method with the formalin first then the fluke m. I'm sure it's the bloody pigeons bringing them to the pond 👍
hopefully thats sorted it mate , let us know when you scrape
Hopefully mate yes will do 🤞🤞
Hi Leon, I tried fluke M from kusuri doesn’t look like it’s work for me hit it again yesterday hopefully it does a better job, if it doesn’t work I was gonna try fluke solve since your saying it doesn’t work and read some comment with same reply, keep me posted if you find anything to solve the issue, good luck with the fluke and take care bro 👍🏻
Mate I comment half way on your video 🤣🤣🤣I’m at the end now see you tried lernex 👍🏻
Cheers bro. A few of the old skill koi keepers have suggested using pp or formalin to thin the slime coat before using fluke treatment so maybe next time I'll try that first. I'll let you know how I get on with this lernex pro fingers crossed it does the job 👍
😂😂 I always do that myself 😉
Done Lernex, L pro twice, flukesolve twice. And still not shifting them, try the CT 24hrs before then second dose of Pro after that I haven't got a clue to do next,
Thanks mate yes I'm going to use something to strip the slime before I treat again 👍
Been told to dose with pp first to strip the slim and then flukasol but didn't work, uses fluke p and then flukasol back to back but didn't work, used fmg and something else and still can't shift them, it's impossible
Yeah mate it's been a nightmare this year the lernex pro seemed to work for me but they have started flashing again this week so I'm expecting to see some when I scrape
@@progressivepondkeeping I'm going to raise the water level in my filters so everything gets a good dosing and hope to god it works,
Yes mate get everything soaked fingers crossed for you 🤞🤞
Bloody flukes,I had exactly the same last year, it was the lernex pro that worked for me in the end. Fingers crossed it works for you.
Cheers Thomas . Touch wood the lernex seems to have done the job hopefully when I scrape in a few days they are clear 🤞🤞
Hi mate 👍🏻 Leon what magnification did you use on your scopes. Hope you get sorted 😎👍🏻
Hello mate, I'm not sure tbh I tend to start at the lowest magnification first then work my way up . I think it's the 400x I use most I'll check the scope and let you know 👍
Blimey the ammount of ponds with harder to shift fluke this year is unbelievable. I'm grateful one course shifted mine, but I'd love to know the reason for all the fluke this year. I had a thought that maybe because the start of the season has been so bad, the koi are late in strengthening there immune system. Just a thought 🤔
Yes mate lots of people seem to be struggling with them. Good theory I didn't think of that 🤔 it's been a really up and down start to the year. Cheers mate 👍
Makes you wonder if the companies who make all the fluke treatments, have reduced it's efficiency, so many pond keepers having so many problems and using the same products that worked well in the past 🤔😏👍
I know mate it's been really strange other treatments worked fine last year then all of a sudden everyone had resistant flukes
Have you got a return in the pond liner at the bottom?
No mate i just return via gravity from my last barrel
Hi Leon, I've just noticed that one of my Koi has started flashing but none of the others yet, and I have some fry, will Lernex pro harm them
Hello mate are the fry in the same pond as the one that's flashing also have you tested your water parameters . Do you know you have flukes have you done a scrape 👍
I have put 2 doses of fluke solve in and it hasn’t worked for me either
I was thinking of doing a PP be good to see how that columbo works I may get it myself 👍🏼👍🏼
It's a nightmare this year mate I'll let you know how this stuff dose 🤞🤞
@@progressivepondkeeping hi buddy how is that Lernex doing I am thinking of ordering mine are riddled with fluke after a scrape yesterday
@@jiffsterkoi it seems to have done the trick I haven't got round to scraping yet though. Next time I treat for fluke I'll use formalin or chloramine-t to strip some mucus first I think the slime coat is protecting the flukes
@@progressivepondkeeping I think your right I have PP at home not sure weather to do that first bloody expensive all this treatment
Yeah it's money all the while 😭
Perhaps the fluke treatment is being eaten up by the filters before it gets to work on the flukes? Time to get a hospital tank? Good luck pal, I'm sure you'll do well.
Cheers mate. Yes I was thinking about a quarantine tank/hospital tank it would save me some money and time. You may be right with the filters as I have the lid off the moving bed and it's possibly gasing off some of the treatment 👍
Hmmmm interesting 🧐 👍.
I would chuck the ones with flukes in that tub and treat for a week in there. You won't need so much. Or you could try pp first to strip the slime coat then apply the fluke treatment. Good luck mate. Flipping flukes are not easy to kill
Yes mate I was thinking that about striping the mucus first hopefully I won't need to 😫
Hi Leon, learnex pro is the only fluke treatment that works for me, I know it's expensive but it works, I was buying it from Nikoi in Netherlands, worked out cheaper and got more product, but I expect brexit has knocked that on the head lol 😁.
Hello mate yes it's going to be nightmare sending and receiving things for Europe now 😒 I'm glad you rate the lernex hopefully it works for me. How long after treating with it can I do a water change I was thinking after 7 days ?
@@progressivepondkeeping I leave it in for 14 days, because it's expensive, I want it in the water as long as possible, I also bypass my drum so that doesn't take it out.
Thanks mate do you think a moving bed would potentially gas it off
@@progressivepondkeeping I have a moving bed, I don't think it will gas off, I always clean my filters first, and leave the next filter clean as long as possible after medication, just so everything is exposed as long as possible to the learnex, don't know if this is right/wrong, just the way I do it. Hope it works for you, by the way get a large circular air disc in that barrel as soon as you can, think there is stagnant water at the bottom of the barrel as is.
Thanks mate. I've got a 6 inch disc at the bottom but only 4mm airline to be honest it dose boil well when full I think it's refiling in this video. Yes I think you are right mate let it stay in the water for asking as possible. Thanks for your help mate it's very much appreciated 👌👍
Hi m8
Yeah I got the same problem with my K1 Water but filter with the drain off to waste I had to put a 45 elbow inside to make sure I got to the bottom of the but
I’ve never had any problems with small (but I don’t have the Air Stone one 24hr a day) I only switch it on when I do a clean.
Wtf is that 2” Rubber boot 😂😂😂😂 that’s ROUGH 😳
Keep us posted on the Flukes 👍
Cheers mate yes I think the 45 in the way to go, I'm the same I only run the air for cleaning on that barrel. 😂😂 That rubber boot was hilarious the seller listed it as for ponds it's literally full of some sort of lubrication grease that would probably kill my fish 😫
@@progressivepondkeeping I think he must have given it to his dog 🐶 to cut that rubber boot
Yeah I always put a smear of Vaseline on my Rubber joints works wonders no problem with leaks
I know mate looks like it was cut with a rusty butter knife 😂 yes mate the Vaseline is brilliant for snug fittings 👌👍
In the future, if you treat with chloramine T 24 hours before you use a fluke treatment. It will strip back the mucus layers (where the fluke hide) so that the treatment is more effective. See below directions.
Use Chloramine T at 15g per 1000 gallons, 24 hours before using Fluke M, this will assist in reducing the mucus membrane where body flukes can sometimes get trapped.
Thanks Richard yes I will try this next time and thanks for the directions I'm going to do some research now 👍
I’m having same problem, flukesolve, fluke m and lernex pro did nothing to get rid of flukes. Not sure what to do now
The only other thing I can think of is using some formalin or something to strip a bit of mucus then treat with fluke treatment. It's possible our koi has a thick slime coat protecting the flukes from the treatment
Chloramine T at 15g per 1000 gallons, 24 hours before using Fluke M, this will assist in reducing the mucus membrane where body flukes can sometimes get trapped.
Same GRRRRR
Thanks Richard I will try this next time. Cheers mate 👍
It's a nightmare mate 🤬🤬
did lernex colombo work ?!
Yes mate it seems to have done the trick I'm getting clean scrapes still a bit of flashing though, next time I'll use formalin first to penetrate the mucus layer 👍
@@progressivepondkeeping allright i bought it aswell yesterday lernex pro. hope they are all dead haha!
Fingers crossed 🤞
do u salt the pond
Hello mate, no I don't use salt these days
@@progressivepondkeeping fluke dont like salt
Cheers Humphrey I might try a salt bath next time . Thanks mate 👍
Any updates? Did it work?
Yes mate it worked thankfully I did still have a bit of flashing for a week but clean scrapes 👍
@@progressivepondkeeping awesome to hear it worked!!! Ive seen a few videos now about fluke treatments not working. I was getting worried for when i run into this!!!
Yeah it's been a funny year for flukes they seem to have built up a resistance to some medications
@@progressivepondkeeping has anyone contacted the company for flukesolve to let them know their product isnt working like it used to?
Try ct for 4 days see how that goes ,👌
Thanks mate. That's one I haven't used yet I'll look into that cheers bud 👍