White 4-225 plowing with 10 bottom Oliver plow. CAT V8 Turbo Power!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2020
- I recorded this in September of 2019, but thought I'd save it for a winter day when we are all dreaming of getting in the fields. The tractor is my 1983 White 4-225 and it is pulling a 5 bottom Oliver 460 flex back plow with a 5 bottom Oliver 548 plow behind it, for a total of ten 16 inch bottoms. This was my first time trying out this setup, and it went really well, especially after some adjustments. This tractor still has its factory CAT turbochared 3208 V8 diesel engine.
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I remember there was nothing greater than the aroma of freshly turned earth during fall plowing
Another great plowing video that I somehow missed until today.
Chisel plowing is great, but there is something extra rewarding about leaving a field after you’ve finished molboard plowing it.
After looking for ages i just bought a White 449 so i see it's also an Oliver
Yep. Thanks for watching!
I like that spring reset plow
It's one of my favorites
Sounds like it didn't even break a sweat. Now I'm really ready for spring lol
Great Video... Nothing like good old diesel power! New tractors do not have the 'spirit' of the old stuff. Thanks.
I never knew Oliver made plows that you could hook up in tandem!.....thanks for sharing!
Really enjoyed all of the different camera angles. Thanks.
Hey Chris just checking out some old videos. I just watched this this one for the first time I think, dont know how I missed it.
TH-cam can be weird on how they recommend videos. I'm pretty sure that's where Skynet will actually come from.
You don't see that anymore.Traditional plowing that is,plus with classic iron from the good ole'days of farming.
Keep the tradition alive Chris!!.
Only issue I have with plowing is it brings 10 years ago's weed problems back current.lol
Very nice. Gotta love that finish
Very nice Chris especially the part a Winters day!
I could watch you plowing all day love the video the old 3208 sounds great 👍
Turns that soil beautifully!
An engine that hangs out each side, awesome.
That is cool. I've never seen oliver plows in tandem. Great video!
Awesome videos! Love the old school crop farming 🚜 , reminds me of how farms used to farm when I was a kid.
Both tractor and plow working great.
Man that set up is cooler than a polar bears bum when he sits
😂
Nice to see WFE care for and well maintained as I too once was WFE owner.
I used to love driving that same tractor
The plows did great, looked like they could get a little wild on the road.
Awesome video nice plow
That's an impressive setup by any definition. I was raised on IH tractors but always thought the Whites were some good looking equipment. Thanks for sharing and keeping alive an almost forgotten practice from the past.
I love those White tractors, they just look excellent.
GMC Jimmy
They look way cool but the colors were terrible LOL
That did look a little exciting with the 2 plows whipping around. I used to own a 548 with 6-16's. Always liked that plow.
what a great tractor. I'd love it
Ah the good old Cat 3208. Such a misunderstood engine. Everyone seems to hate on them, but they are a good motor.
I agree.
Are the 3116 cat any good? I picked up a couple of trucks, one bad tranny, one bad engine. May put one together.
Cleta Spratt they aren’t a bad motor, just remember that it was designed for Medium duty use, it’s not a heavy duty engine.
Nice video again sir.. 👍👍
I remember hearing about a flex back plow, may have seen 8 bottom near Lewiston Idaho, later I plowed w/ 10 bottom wilrich plow, great to see, had 1800 Oliver in family .
The 2250 oliver 2 wheel drive had 3208 cat
Oliver plows always do a good job. Nice setup Chris.
Thanks!
I can't wait for spring !!!
Excellent footage
Thank you!
Grandpa farmed with an Oliver 770 and a few other tractors. The 770 did all the big jobs like plowing, discing, pulling the drag, planting with the drill, and running the pull behind combine or corn picker. I sure miss that tractor and farming with it. I have been hoping to find a 1550 or 1650 for myself to play with. Great tractors!
Love that Tractor
Nice job with the recording.
White didn't sound like it even knew the plow was back their. Boy that ground was working up nice.
That's a sweet tractor. I've always had a soft spot for those bad boys.
Nice plow set up and does a nice job at turning the soil.
Thanks!
@Mike Maes that is possible lol.
Nice unit.even waved at ya down the road
That big White Cat didn’t even break a sweat
I sure like your videos just recently found them. Definitely pushing the subscription button
Thank you!
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey it looks like the front set of 5 bottoms is pulling a wider path then the back set ? Or is it just me ? It's an awesome setup ! To say the least,, TY !!!
I can remember when I was a kid we had 2 olivers 548s and would do the same thing with hooking them together for the larger fields then we also ran a pair of IH 4 bottoms besides lol. I can remember a demo on a white 4 210 but we stuck with the IH 2+2 instead
That was great! I can almost smell the dirt and diesel. Aww, I'm jealous! Looked like fun! There's a lot of bendy bits there to try going down the road lol! I figured that van was just your camera crew now that you're at 7.26K subs! I bet they were wishing they had a dashcam lol! Great video! Thanks for sharing! And thanks for reminding us stuck in the middle of winter that there's hope right around the corner!
Yeah, I thought recording the drive home would make good video. I'd never had it whip on prior trips. Then that van shows up and I think, I'll speed up a little more. Wrong idea! Lol.
Yeah, the channel has really grown in the last couple weeks. It appears that having an engine take a dump is a sure fire way to get views and subs.
That's nice ground you have! The 4-225 wasn't phased by 10 bottoms! Gotta love cat power!
❤😊 the flex back plow is VERY INTERESTING 🤔 BOTH RED BIBS BILL AND MYSELF HAVE WATCHED THIS VIDEO TO SEE HOW IT WORKS ❤😊
I've got a couple other videos of it in action on other tractors
I Shared the video of the 4-225 pulling the Flex Plow to a Guy from Owatonna Mn that sells White Plows and Parts.. HE SAID HE LOVED 😍 THE VIDEO !!!!😁
We had oliver plows they pulled so easy compared to others. International was ok but oliver was the best.
My 4240 oliver pull type will whip once in a while too, but thats only 3 bottoms, Cool setup you have
Watching you go down the road brings back the nightmare of pulling this huge DMI 12 bottom down gravel in the dark and the rear wheel would fall off into the ditch a bit and felt like I was going into that massive drainage ditch. BTW we used an Allis 8550 which I’m such many would say shouldn’t be pulling a 12 furrow plow like you’re white, but we found our only limitation traction
Great video mate 👍
Thanks, Murphy!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris 😁👍👍👍👍
Been well over 20 years since we've had a plow in the field..
Not many left here.
Good to see one at work!! Thanks Chris!!
Where are you from?
@UCGD34YFcM_-8G539j4zIypg NW Oregon.
And you??
For me, plowing is recreation tillage. Just a little here and there for fun. I decided to change the direction I work this field for harvesting ease. I figure plowing it would help get the bumps going in the right direction.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris and here, the government (fed and state) rown on plowing 😂🤣 but we can run an offset disc 8-10 inches deep and it's fine😂🤣)
Yeah, they don't care for plowing here, and I can see the extra erosion I get in a field after moldboarding, but what can I say, I'm an addict. Still, my corn is almost 100% no till and pretty much all minimum till on my bean ground. There were a lot of guys adopting no till around here the first week of June to try to get some corn planted.
Thank you that was neat
Nice running Tractor it did not have any trouble pulling that gang of plows
Dog gone I love these old white farm tractors we had an 2\ 105 best thing we ever did was to get that tractor 7\bottom plow 24ft field cultivator
Here in the thumb they still do alot of moldboard plowing on corn stubble. Some 12 bottom CIH plows
I thinking the same thing lol but that van really back of for few seconds LOL
Awesome
I don't know but i herd a story about a UPS driver going around semi pulling wide mobile home on a two lane bridge, the UPS driver passed with two wheels on the road and the other two on the upper raised walk way on the bridge, they said the driver looked higher then a kite and just a singing away never missed a beat as he passed !
Never seen a. Plough Slapper before.
We still use our oliver 548 4 bottom and our international 510 5 bottom every spring. The 548 gets put on our cummins 1955 and the 510 on our international hydro 100.
Sounds like good stuff to make youtube videos of this spring.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Im planning on it!
The tail tried to wag the CAT!
It would be nice if you would show and explain how you put the plows together and set them up you're lucky you have nice flat land nice job of plowing a fun tractor to watch working nice video
Thanks. I'll do that next time I use it. So far I have used my forklift to lift and set the rear plow into place. It could be entertaining trying to back up the front plow to hitch up to rear one.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris thanks for answering I have never seen them being used I have seen them I pictures but not plowing, were I live the tractor would work a little in the clay hills and black gumbo not to mention a little blue clay
G'day
Hello Murphy!
looked to me like everything paired up well where the 2 plows was you could see no differences and seemed like the tractor was having no trouble handling the plows thanks for the video also glad to see the rebuild on the other tractor going well with parts this is idea for the pre heater that likely failed and caused the engine failure what about doing a delete on it with the higher compression from the new piston sleeves piston combo just have a block heater on it and plug it in the night before you want to use it not sure the tractor may even all ready have a block heater on it now but still that pre heater doing that is not good at all
I'm thinking about deleting the preheater. It does have a block heater, but it's nice to have the preheater if I need it unexpectedly, or I leave it in the field overnight. From what I'm hearing, the high compression pistons start unaided down into the teens.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris i would just delete the darn thing if you can not find one have you seen the grid heater used on the 94 dodges i would say there are more years in the range of that one the 94 i know of cause i had one wander how hard it would be to fab one them into the intake on the tractor that is roughly a 4 by 4 square
We had a White 10 bottom for our Versatile 875. Still have a White 6 bottom for when we need it. How many bottoms would an A4T-1600 pull? Neighbor had one of those for years, was a good tractor. Not a huge powerhouse, but was a nice tractor.
Muito bom motor v 8 podia mostrar a cabine
Oliver plows will work with any color tractor.
Big snake back there going down the road. Pulled it good. Did u guys ever sell bigger plows like that
Most of the guys around here got up to 6-8 bottoms before they quit mold boarding. I've got to think we sold at least one of these flex back plows, because there is a parts book for it in with the other plows parts books the dealership had. We only kept parts books for stuff we sold, and had micro fiche for everything else, so the book makes me think they sold at least one. I've been asking around to some of the guys that might have bought one without any luck so far. Ever since I saw that parts book, I've thought that would be a neat plow to have, so when this one popped up on the internet, I didn't waste any time in buying it. The front plow could be either a 4 or a 5 bottom unit, and they recommended using a 565 or 575 plow for the second unit. I'd say the one I have might have only been used as a 5 bottom. The hitch was set up for 5, and the rear hitch had zero wear on it. The whole thing had very little wear on it, I just had to replace tires and repack wheel bearings and it was ready to go.
LUV that you're using moldboard plows.......So few in use in the USA. In Europe they're still
dominant. Big difference USA vs Europe when it comes to use of CHEMICALS. How long
can we (in the USA) keep using toxic chemicals on our precious farm fields ? * ? * ?
Manure spreading and moldboard
Plowing 👍👍
Lol wouldn't have been nice but it would've been funny if you lowered the plow on the van lol...But I did some air raiding (culti-plowing) on my grandpa farm down here in Texas it loosens up the ground good to let more of our coastal come up for hay
I'll bet that van don't try to pass either. lol
Lol
I think I would have swung the drawbar all the way over to the right that way you're going to get more of that one set of duels on land instead of hanging over in the furrow
Looks like the 4-225 didn't have any issue pulling 10
It did really well. I stayed in 2nd gear because of the rocks. I should have tried a little bit in 3rd to see how well it would have pulled it there.
It just goes to show how strong the 3208 turbocharged Cat engine really is. Thanks for sharing.
Are those 16 inch bottons plow is doing a great job think you for the video
Yes, 16 inch. Thanks for watching!
Looked like you had quite a few cottonwoods trying to spring up in your field, but that's some good looking sandy soil you've got. How long has it been since that field was last worked?
I had disced it the fall before to plant wheat, and when it's corn stubble it gets disced. Something like chisel plowing or moldbord, it has been somewhere around 20 years.
Just think of all the miles we all walked following along in the dead furrow just to be out in the field with our fathers and Grand fathers. What state are you in? Thank you for the great videos.
I'm in Michigan. The plow turned up a disc blade, a gang wrench and a couple other odds and ends. It is like a history dig at times. I know I've left some treasures for future generations.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thats great I live just outside Kalamazoo. Love to see the Oliver and Whites at work. Just got back from a of the Oliver Manchind Well worth a day trip.
Lucky for you, you must have sandy soil
Overall, yes, quite sandy. It really worked out well last year with all the rain we had.
People can say what they will about no till but nothing like busting that hard pan up we always had better yields using a plow
Hi Chris does Agco still brand any tillage equipment as White? Or is their corn planters the only thing.
The corn planter is the only thing I know of that still carries the White name.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris sad that such a grand old name had to be reduced to only being on planters. However at least it is still on something.
We still moldboard, not many do. In the past 6 months, I have saw 3 White / Oliver semi mount plows 5 & 6 bottoms bring 100 dollars 💵 each at auction. 2 were at Mecum fall gone farming. At that price there worth just to buy for parts.
I've picked up most of my plows for scrap price. Can't hardly go wrong at that level.
Nice video. Is that 10 bottom plow a good size for the 4-225? Or would that tractor be more suited with a 12?(soil conditions being the same as yours)
I wasn't sure it was going to pull 10 as good as it did, but it could do 11 after running this one, maybe 12. We've got an 8 bottom 588 plow and Dad felt that was plenty, but it was also set on an 18 inch cut, which is only 16 inches narrower than this plow with 10 16s.
@Rex Johnson , yeah, I've taken the 8 across hills. Flat landers don't understand. Lol
Excellent video. I noticed that your 3 point arms are all the way up. We ran 1750 through 2150 olivers on our farm. Did they do away with that design that would burn up the hydraulic pump if you did that?
If the three point arms are loading the hydraulic pump from being all the way up, they are out of adjustment. I leave mine up all the time, except when I'm using them.
I knew I read that in the manual, but the problem was I was only 12 or 13 at the time and no one wanted to listen to me.
Have you ever considered setting up an Oliver/White help desk?
I guess I kind of considered my youtube channel a help desk of sorts. I know a lot of people want personalized attention to their problem, but that could be a full time job itself.
Does your machine have a pyrometer?? I worked for a guy who had a Steiger Bearcat with a 3208 with a tune job on it, and he had to watch his exhaust temps pretty close!!
It does have one built in. Typically is 1,000 to 1,100 F when working hard.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks for the reply partner!!
The 548 spring reset a pretty good plow ?
Yes. They pull nice and on my ground, the spring reset is a must. That is one of my favorite plows to use of all the ones we have.
Is this a older video? Even if it is it’s still a cool video
Yep, I recorded it back in September, but was saving it winter.
Cool that was kind of what I was thinking
why do some fields need deep plowing and others just get a disc run through them with the planter ,soybean planting.
@@boathead22000 it depends on soil types and the preferences of the farmer. Each has its advantages and disadvantages, so it really comes down to what the farmer feels is best fr his gields.
Is that your workhorse tractor on the farm?
So how many acres could you plough there on a good average day? You are leaving a good level job, a little bit of trash showing up but it’s acceptable
Thanks for the video ☘️
I'd say it could do around 50 acres a day with a 10 hour work day. If you watch the main area that is leaving trash is where the tractor is straddling, leaving standing stubble for the rear 2 bottoms of the front plow. The front plow came from South Dakota and has what Oliver called their stubble bottom, as well as straight coulters and no coverboards. The idea was to leave a little residue on top to prevent erosion. The rear plow has dished coulters and Oliver's general purpose bottoms. It does a nice job of burying residue.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris good information Chirs thank you.
Interesting point about leaving trash to stop erosion 🧐. Ingenuity again. ☘️
Just wondering why no coverboards on your plows always does a cleaner job of burying the trash
The rear plow has dished coulters, which eliminate the need for cover boards. The front plow has stubble bottoms, which were designed to leave some stubble on top to help with erosion.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris ok I thought the rear plow was doing a nice job and that’s why more on the front just hate to see grass stubble if your not spraying to kill it quack was so hard to control before roundup!
I would have thought white would get more than 225 hp out of that engine .
I remember when I was a kid dad and I would plow all day on the 806 IH nobody plows around here now it's all no-till or as close as possible
Rocks????? This sure wasn't Upstate NY
Forget passing I bet that van needs a new pair of shorts.
Lol!
You seriously need to paint the shares on your plow with grease as soon as you are done with it, those rusty shares won't scour for crap.
They shined up in the first pass. Another advantage of the sandy soil.
A little too flexible for road gear! Lol
Yeah, still makes my hair stand up watching that again.
Wow talk about flirting with disaster
Not set right.. Wrong.. Sets.
Can't.. understand... youu...
Real nice tractor, always liked the White 4wds 👍