Most of the lag you're seeing is from your camera, not the monitor. Blue Only is meant for a couple of things: making sure that the hues from a video source are correct (set one to output SMPTE color bars, then make sure that colors are consistent from top to bottom), and to check noise levels. Both camera sensors and our eyes are far less sensitive to blue light than other colors, so you'll see more noise in the blue channel than you will the others. Having the Blue Only mode lets you check to see if your noise levels are in check.
I have the Atomos Ninja Inferno. Its user manual states that the Blue Only mode is for inspecting the sensor noise, as the blue channel tends to be the noisiest.
The thing that's crazy to me is that blackmagic puts HDR in the name of the device, but to my knoweldge there is no way to view raw video in HDR in real time, despite having an amazing HDR display. That defeats a huge advantage to the monitor. Whereas the Ninja V has an inferior dispay (1000 nits vs 2500 nits), but sensibly has a PQ preview of their raw video. I find it to be such a bizarre oversight. It really sucks only being able to view HDR when shooting HLG in real time, given raw is the superior mode.
I have a 7in on the 6k and it’s still there. It’ll be corrected in a software update. Black magic will be releasing a lot of fixes for this soon and hopefully introducing camera control for their cameras (to control basic exposure settings) BRAW still isn’t event available on this yet!
DCI-P3 color gambit was created by the film studios almost 20 years ago when theaters were being converted to digital projection. DCI-P3 color is the color standard for DCPs.
Appreciate the hard work you put into these reviews. I just received mine as well and love it! Do you know if the 12v power on the side charges the NP-F570 batteries while plugged in? On another note, hoping BRAW comes to 1080 soon, so the files from HDMI feed (BMPCC) can be smaller.
Nice review! Strictly from a monitoring/usability perspective, how do you feel the Video Assist compares to the Portkeys bm5, as far as color accuracy, scopes, user-friendliness, etc.? Thanks!
I love this monitor only thing where they put the usb c port makes no sense at all if ur planning on buying it u need to know the the usb c port is right next to where the screw in for the hotshoe is keep that in mind
Awesome Video man! Question, would you say this BMD 12G monitor has better color accuracy than the SmallHD OLED? I need one for on set grading for quick turnaround docs, so color is incredibly important to me. I heard there was a weird green cast when switching codecs and LUTS not displaying accurately as compared to other monitors.
Hey man, great video as always, I watched through the whole thing and not sure if you mentioned whether or not you can record RAW? I just bought the FS5 which has external 4K 25 FPS RAW external recording, if I buy this monitor will this be possible? Or will I just be able to record 4K 60PFS? Thank you! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
SRProductions It does offer BlackMagic RAW through SDI, i briefly mentioned that at the menu part, but im not sure if the FS5 has been added to the list. BMD has only officially talked about Canon working with the blackmagic raw. but im sure if it can send to an atomos, it should in theory work with this, even if that will require a firmware update later on 🤷🏻♂️
Excellent review, Justin. One of your best vids. I'm getting this to monitor the P4K! Mad over the top solution but I'm so frustrated with other options. The UI on other monitors is awful. Decent UI ones have poor nits, high nits ones have poor UI, good UI have poor inputs/loop out. I had a bright Feelworld with nasty UI. The BM5 II looks nice but the UI is awful and even shortcut functions aren't toggles. So every time you press on or off on a function you have to tap through to get back to your choice (guides, scopes etc). Madness. And the BT1 was a complete mess as far as implementation. Thought I needed it. I don't. The Shinobi is good with nice UI but only 1 HDMI is poor. And their SDI version has worse inputs resolutions. Plus they hate BM so much they're cutting out BM customers. All in all the P4K only outputs 1080p but I just want a high quality monitoring monitor with excellent UI. So this is it. Scopes look top notch. Shame they don't do one with no record functions. 5" for me too. 7" is too big. It should also be future proof.
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@@AlwaysBolttheBird The Shinobi priced at 300 dollars can't record..Don't quite know what the Ninja is costing in the us, but a guess would be around 600 dollars.. :)
Great review. During the latency test there was also some serious rolling shutter showing on the monitor. Does that end up on the recording or is it just a result of the lag on the HDMI interface in some way that’s not effecting the actual recording?
Hey Justin!! How is the latency on thsi monitor with the Komodo? I am thinking about getting one. The biggest draw back I've seen so far is no Anamorphic 1.5x.. 1.33 and 1.66
When the first large Black Magic Ultra was released the biggest complain was the onboard monitor. Could you say if you can altered the original video within the video assist recording drives in real time?
@@JustinPhillip I'm still keeping my Sony Fs5 cause it has FHD 10-bit 422 and maybe with the BM Video Assist, I can get 4k 10-bit 422 up to 60fps. I gotta do my research on that.
Great video Justin. I need to purchase a recorder for my new Nikon Z6, would love Prores Raw but my NLE, Davinci does not support currently. After having used the Ninja V and the 5" VA HDR, which would you go for? How does the fan noise compare between the two? Thanks!
takrinke I like the new VA the most. As far as fan noise, i tested that in this video. Honestly, it’s probably about the same, from what i can remember
I was so much looking for a full detailed review of these new BM Monitors! Thanks a lot Justin!! I’m just wondering if XII tested the powering option thru the 12v special screw thing cable?? I’m considering powering it from my v mount setup on the shoulder so the dual npf doesn’t appeal to me for balancing and weight purposes. Thanks and cheers!
Lorenzo Morgan Jr. If I was to pair the Blackmagic Video Assist 12G Monitor with the Blackmagic Cinema Camera 2.5K, what areas will the latest Video Assist 12G Monitor improve the BMCC 2.5K?
Great review as always! I'm currently running a Ninja V robbed from my other camera and really need a dedicated monitor for the 4K. I've been leaning towards the Portkeys BM5, however this monitor looks very compelling. My question to you is, as a one man band for the most part, the latency of this model seems like using it to pull focus in any kind of quick moving scene would be brutal. I almost feel like that makes it a deal breaker, especially since I don't need the recording capability. What are your thoughts?
JSW Photography Yeah i mean that is a concern if you’re running on gimbals a lot. I only use the Devin Graham Glidecam, and i dont even pull focus with that, i just set the lens to a 4 or a 5.6 and try my best to maintain the same distance. But i rarely do gimbal stuff, im just not a fan, and i really only do narrative work, which doesnt require a whole lot of gimbal stuff, i prefer what i can do with my Ready Rig. But i’ve also heard that they’re trying to fix the latency issue thru a fimrware update 🤷🏻♂️ idk, i much prefer the scopes and color accuracy in this monitor over the BM5. Plus the BM5 has no HDMI out, and can not monitor anything above 30fps, so keep that in mind as well. I imagine if youre doing gimbal stuff, you live in 60fps
I actually bought one of these for simply capturing HDMI signals. I don't use it with a camera, wish me luck 🤣. I'm using it to sit in between a presenter's computer and main display at conferences, i needed something portable that i could bring with me to any event and ensure i could capture any signal coming from that HDMI for later editing with video from two other cameras that i operate from the audience.
Thank you for posting! How do you like using it (or do you) with your BMPCC4K or 6K as a PQ monitor? I use my older Atomos Ninja V in PQ monitoring with a similar LUT built in (no BM available for Ninja) that ball parks me for color how I might grade along with my waveform etc so I know how far I’m pushing the sensor. I expect the BM scopes to be more accurate with a BM camera in BRAW? True/False? Or are they fairly standard signal processing? Anyway I was thinking of getting a Atomos Shinobi for my BMPCC4K since I don’t need any recording features and keep my Ninja V on another camera, unless you think the PQ monitoring bright/peaks/shadows retention tone mapping on the 12 Video assist is vastly better?
Hi Justin. Great run down there. I recently received my new 12g 7" video assist. Running out of my Lumix S1H,(1080 25p) on a 8K short HDMI cable, I immediately noticed delay in signal. This is a concern as pans and focus pulls are that much harder now. I see in your review the same lag as you pan the camera, the VA is not in sync.. Do you think this is a HDMI thing? Over BNC on ALL other monitors I use I have never seen a lag like this.. Any advice will be MOST WELCOME.
lighthackerslimited I think it’s a lot to do with the camera body. Some cameras affect lag more than others. Which is still a bummer. I’m gonna be doing a follow up and testing the lag on my BlackMagic
@@JustinPhillip I just saw another post with a different camera.. same issue too. I am thinking it's the monitor instead of the camera... th-cam.com/video/JJ3RPHn_dqo/w-d-xo.html
Hello, my name is Urias from Brazil... I have the nex fs700r camera and I have been trying to record in 4k on video assist blackmagic 5 ", and do not give me the option to record in 4k, that is, the video output does not show the option of 4k. You can help me
hmmm….im not sure, probably not. I havent noticed that feature. I see what you mean tho, could be a cool feature. But the amount of space you can get on these little cards is pretty dang good, and the 7 inch has dual slots. Thats what i use now, the bigger one. It also has full size SDI and mini xlr ports. I use it with my vaxis unit for my 1st AC monitor 🤙🏼
The gh4 ( My first three camera's) is primarily a 4k 8 bit camera with a 10 bit output. This recorder is capable of 10 bit raw. These are being used in talk shows. Does this effect the dynamic range in any way? ( Two for $400, good timing) I would expect a more vibrant and workable file from this recorder. This it appears you agree? I am fortunate enough to have a Gh5 and Bmpcc 4k also. I went with Feelworld 7" 2200 nit monitors for these. Does the BlackMagic video assist here help in matching the Bmpcc 4k with the Gh5? Thanks for all the insight. Ray
it could help for sure, if on the Pocket 4K you are shooting with their extended video LUT, and then shooting on the GH5 in Vlog, and sending that out to the HDR Video Assist, because it has the same LUTs on it that the Pocket 4K has. still would need some tweaking in Resolve obviously, but yeah, that could help getting closer for sure.
@@JustinPhillip Since you mentioned age I will give a hint here. ... (While hanging out on the sets of Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, Taxi, and a few more I watched a lot of multi camera productions and the time saved creating content. And got paid for it.) Just shot my first Raw Q0 on the P 4k . I haven't put luts on in camera yet but will start later today. I have been hesitating on the Vlog for the Gh5. So would you agree it is time invest in the Vlog as a long term approach. My experience has been to use the Gh5 as a wide camera with two Gh4's crossing medium to close. I am using the Lumix 12-35 and a pair of 35 -100 for lenses. If I hit the lotto today there would be three ursa g2's and three S1h's on order. I am floored since finding out film is 13 stops of dynamic range! A movie studio is my dream legacy. We must Dream and thanks again.
Thank you for this great video. I got a question for you. Is it possible to use AF tracking focus (face and eyes) on Sony a7 Mark III using Blackmagic Video Assist?
Justin I have some old DVCAM and HDV tapes I want to digitize and use this device. Do you see any issues with that? Both players have 3G/SDI (SD/HD) output. I also have the option of converting both SDI source feeds to HDMI through the BM SD->HDMI bi-directional convertor (probably not needed).
What about the latency Justin? I would like to buy it to have BRAW but I observed latency with this monitor recorder on several videos which is too dangerous for focus pulling. Thanks for your reply :)
hmm....my 1st AC still uses this monitor when pulling focus for me. I haven't noticed any extreme issues with it, but we use SDI. So maybe there is more latency issues with HDMI or even with the wireless receiver you're using. We havent noticed anything concerning. I replaced the 5" with the 7" tho sometime ago....not sure if the 7" is better in terms of latency...the reason why i got rid of the 5" is because the mini SDI broke
@@JustinPhillipThank you Justin! I saw more people has 4 or 5 frames of latency with the 7inch version (because of the xlr ports). We can also see it during conventions. They reduced the latency without using the xlr. I never find someone who used these two monitors to record BRAW and that's what I want to do. I guess the only thing I need to do is to buy it and try. Thank you very much for your reply🙏
I received the BMVA 5' and I have no latency, even in BRAW 6K and very nice HDR colors. I am so happy, thank you for your reply ;) It has already frozen several times but maybe it's because I send the HDM signal to the BMVA and then from the BMVA to a SmallHD 702 touch. The guy at Blackmagic told me it will be impossible to have a second monitor and that I will have a black screen. He was wrong I can, but I think it could block the BMVA... I hope it is the only reason. And finally, i understand why your's broke, the mini SDI are very bad and waaay too long...
Great review I have just received my 5inch video assist hdr monitor and am about to do my own review on my channel and wondered has yours got a green shift in the monitor image mine seems to be slightly shifted to the green I have tried all the adjustments but no difference also when changing from ProRes to DNxHR the colour shift changes.
David Hoult hmmm, yeah i dont know, you adjust the saturation levels? It could be your lights have a green shift and you just never had a good enough monitor to tell...do you have any green plus or minus gels? 🤷🏻♂️
Justin Phillip Yes adjusted the saturation and tried it with natural light just from my window in the studio I have messaged blackmagic and am waiting for a reply but I’ll keep testing and see what I find.
Justin Phillip Hi just a update had contact with blackmagic and they have said their engineers are aware of the colour shift problem and are looking into it and will release a firmware update to fix it just don’t know when.
Justin Phillip i know bro, but you put 2 camera in the description. So thats make me so confuse. I just ask one camera u use for record this video and what metabone u use
Is it possible to record 6K/4K(BMPCC) in camera and another lower format inside the monitor simultaneously (for proxies reasons)? And also can you control your camera settings from the monitor, iso etc?
Spiros Petropoulos Yes you can record in lower format, whatever you choose on monitor, and some cameras you can downrez. But no, as of right now, you can not change camera settings from the monitor
Can I have it being used via HDMI in and have it loop out VIA the SDI out? Or does it only work with the input you are using? I am wanting to use the HDMI input but want to loop out via the SDI output.
P3 is a colour gamut. It just specifies the breadth of unique colours within a defined standard. Why it's an industry standard - you kind of explained but it's not tech, so much as it's a specification. You can grade in srgb, rec709, P3 and more on the same computer/monitor. Because it's a wide colour gamut, companies are keen to say that their product's displays are P3. It's a marketing thing. Most of the time, they're displaying a % of P3, not actually displaying 100% of the colours (but probably all of 709 for instance). Edit: in short, it is data :)
I tried using the Video Assist 12G to record HDMI output from a GH5 in HLG 10-bit 422 MOV mode, into DNxHR HQX format MOV files. MediaInfo says the files are recorded in BT.2020 color space, but with Transfer Characteristics: Rec. 709. When I play back the MOV files with the Video Assist HDMI output plugged directly into a Samsung Q70R, the HDTV fails to switch into HDR mode. I have successfully played back internally recorded HLG MOV files from the GH5, which automatically switch the Q70R into HDR mode. MediaInfo says these files are recorded by the GH5 in BT.2020 color space with Transfer Characteristics: HLG. Does anyone know if the Video Assist 12G can record HLG format DNxHR MOV files with the correct HLG metadata?
just sold my Atomos Ninja getting this instead, goodbye Atomos and your Pro res raw bs, hello braw. Thank you for the video Justin keep up the good work.
Aaron Peipert Nothing that I can find. I know Canon Cinema Cameras, Panasonic EV1, and i believe some Sony cameras. But that’s just what they’ve been saying and demo-ing at the trade shows
@@JustinPhillip So, I'm limited to 60fps then. If I wanted to record 120fps using vfr then I'd have to do it inside the camera. I have a GH5 and I'm Looking for a monitor. Thanks for your reply :) 🙏
@@JustinPhillip Yeah I know, I wouldn't really call that audio in. It means I have to connect audio on the camera, way less versatile. Mini xlr is perfect, but the 5" imo could at least have had a line/mini jack in (like the Ninja V does).
I saw this video a while ago and was really impressed with this monitor, but today I tried it and the colors are really bad. They are waaaay off. My cheap freeworld does a much better job. Yellow becomes purple/red-ish! And you can't even calibrate it? Its ridiculous.
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Hey do you plan on using this with the Komodo- I see you in the group and I am looking for the monitor to go with my stormtrooper
I do! But you should check out my more recent video on this setup: th-cam.com/video/_VCuS5HBC-s/w-d-xo.html
Justin Phillip oh wow thanks man!
Most of the lag you're seeing is from your camera, not the monitor.
Blue Only is meant for a couple of things: making sure that the hues from a video source are correct (set one to output SMPTE color bars, then make sure that colors are consistent from top to bottom), and to check noise levels. Both camera sensors and our eyes are far less sensitive to blue light than other colors, so you'll see more noise in the blue channel than you will the others. Having the Blue Only mode lets you check to see if your noise levels are in check.
I have the Atomos Ninja Inferno. Its user manual states that the Blue Only mode is for inspecting the sensor noise, as the blue channel tends to be the noisiest.
The thing that's crazy to me is that blackmagic puts HDR in the name of the device, but to my knoweldge there is no way to view raw video in HDR in real time, despite having an amazing HDR display. That defeats a huge advantage to the monitor. Whereas the Ninja V has an inferior dispay (1000 nits vs 2500 nits), but sensibly has a PQ preview of their raw video. I find it to be such a bizarre oversight.
It really sucks only being able to view HDR when shooting HLG in real time, given raw is the superior mode.
Can you please connect the Monitor to a P4K/6K and do the LATENCY test again to see if the long latency was actually course by the GH5 hdmi
Akpe ododoru Definitely. I anticipate more questions coming in after this video, so we can definitely do a follow up. 👌🏼
@@JustinPhillip Cheers dude, looking forward to it
I have a 7in on the 6k and it’s still there. It’ll be corrected in a software update. Black magic will be releasing a lot of fixes for this soon and hopefully introducing camera control for their cameras (to control basic exposure settings)
BRAW still isn’t event available on this yet!
@@kareemabulaban9456 Thanks for this info. I have the old 5" video assist and i don't get any latency when connected to my 6k.
@@akpevbe Do you use HDMI or SDI? I wonder if that affects the latency of it.
DCI-P3 color gambit was created by the film studios almost 20 years ago when theaters were being converted to digital projection. DCI-P3 color is the color standard for DCPs.
I'm talking about the ssd holder, thanks
this is a fairly old video, but this is the one: amzn.to/3KBVvcj
Thank you so much for your video! You helped me make a clear decision about whether I will buy this monitor or not.
Appreciate the hard work you put into these reviews. I just received mine as well and love it! Do you know if the 12v power on the side charges the NP-F570 batteries while plugged in? On another note, hoping BRAW comes to 1080 soon, so the files from HDMI feed (BMPCC) can be smaller.
Weston James Palmer I don’t think it charges. But that would be cool!
Great review man. Love the delivery and subbed! Looking forward to the next!
Paul Hunter-Rowe Sweet! Thank you 🙌🏼🦾
Nice review!
Strictly from a monitoring/usability perspective, how do you feel the Video Assist compares to the Portkeys bm5, as far as color accuracy, scopes, user-friendliness, etc.?
Thanks!
Parker Hey Parker. Been getting some nice questions about this monitor. I’m gonna compile all of them and make a follow up video. Stay tuned! 🙌🏼
That latency is a deal breaker for me.
Thanks for the great hands-on review, though!
Love your Rig, can you please share the links in the description?
I remember Who's Afraid of the Dark, how dare you call me old lol. Great review
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I love this monitor only thing where they put the usb c port makes no sense at all if ur planning on buying it u need to know the the usb c port is right next to where the screw in for the hotshoe is keep that in mind
Awesome Video man! Question, would you say this BMD 12G monitor has better color accuracy than the SmallHD OLED? I need one for on set grading for quick turnaround docs, so color is incredibly important to me. I heard there was a weird green cast when switching codecs and LUTS not displaying accurately as compared to other monitors.
Hey man, great video as always, I watched through the whole thing and not sure if you mentioned whether or not you can record RAW? I just bought the FS5 which has external 4K 25 FPS RAW external recording, if I buy this monitor will this be possible? Or will I just be able to record 4K 60PFS?
Thank you! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
SRProductions It does offer BlackMagic RAW through SDI, i briefly mentioned that at the menu part, but im not sure if the FS5 has been added to the list. BMD has only officially talked about Canon working with the blackmagic raw. but im sure if it can send to an atomos, it should in theory work with this, even if that will require a firmware update later on 🤷🏻♂️
Justin Phillip legend, thanks man, I really hope so
You should take your description of DICP 3 Technology and make a short or a clip of that alone... Good info!
Just ordered this but I cannot stop to wonder if this would work also as a recording device from your PC to the monitor?
Would be so epic
i mean, dont see why not, i have used the 7" for clean video feed (third monitor) for color grading and have used it as webcam via the usb-c
Excellent review, Justin. One of your best vids.
I'm getting this to monitor the P4K! Mad over the top solution but I'm so frustrated with other options. The UI on other monitors is awful. Decent UI ones have poor nits, high nits ones have poor UI, good UI have poor inputs/loop out. I had a bright Feelworld with nasty UI. The BM5 II looks nice but the UI is awful and even shortcut functions aren't toggles. So every time you press on or off on a function you have to tap through to get back to your choice (guides, scopes etc). Madness. And the BT1 was a complete mess as far as implementation. Thought I needed it. I don't. The Shinobi is good with nice UI but only 1 HDMI is poor. And their SDI version has worse inputs resolutions. Plus they hate BM so much they're cutting out BM customers.
All in all the P4K only outputs 1080p but I just want a high quality monitoring monitor with excellent UI. So this is it. Scopes look top notch. Shame they don't do one with no record functions. 5" for me too. 7" is too big. It should also be future proof.
Symon Yeah! I absolutely love this monitor. Nice crisp colors, plus BMD is so good about constantly upgrading firmware on their products! 🦾
Is that lag not also down to the GH5's output lag? Would be interested seeing it on your 4k. You considered a vid on this? ;)
Justin what would be a good quality dummy battery for my GH5 and a good V mount battery..Thanks buddy.
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I wish I could afford a monitor that can record there really expensive. Good video I really liked it.
The Atomos is about $300. I know that's not exactly cheap but it isn't that bad honestly.
@@AlwaysBolttheBird The Shinobi priced at 300 dollars can't record..Don't quite know what the Ninja is costing in the us, but a guess would be around 600 dollars.. :)
i think the smallrig cage from the 6G version will fit perfectly or not?
Rafick Bottse hmmm....good question 👌🏼
ahh, i dont think it will fit, it's a tad longer and thicker
Great review. During the latency test there was also some serious rolling shutter showing on the monitor. Does that end up on the recording or is it just a result of the lag on the HDMI interface in some way that’s not effecting the actual recording?
that's the GH5's horrible rolling shutter, no way around that
Justin Phillip them my EOS R would do somewhat the same thing, just not quite as bad. Thanks!
Hey Justin!! How is the latency on thsi monitor with the Komodo? I am thinking about getting one. The biggest draw back I've seen so far is no Anamorphic 1.5x.. 1.33 and 1.66
No latency.
@@JustinPhillip nice! But anamorphic is still still 1.3x 1.6x and 2x ?? No 1.5x support ?
When the first large Black Magic Ultra was released the biggest complain was the onboard monitor. Could you say if you can altered the original video within the video assist recording drives in real time?
Dude! Once I sell my Sony a7sii, I’ll
Be getting the Gh5 and your timing is perfect!
JohnMark Datingaling You selling all your Sony’s?? You goin all Panasonic??
@@JustinPhillip I'm still keeping my Sony Fs5 cause it has FHD 10-bit 422 and maybe with the BM Video Assist, I can get 4k 10-bit 422 up to 60fps. I gotta do my research on that.
Nice job. Aside from some weird ergonomic quirks and no built in SSD reader, it looks a lot more capable than the Ninja V for about the same money
Phillip R Peck Yeah, better scopes IMO and color rendering 👌🏼🦾
Great review!!! but paly back can choose 1/2 speed or any speed?
Joken Jang from normal all the way up to 50x
Great video Justin. I need to purchase a recorder for my new Nikon Z6, would love Prores Raw but my NLE, Davinci does not support currently. After having used the Ninja V and the 5" VA HDR, which would you go for? How does the fan noise compare between the two? Thanks!
takrinke I like the new VA the most. As far as fan noise, i tested that in this video. Honestly, it’s probably about the same, from what i can remember
That is crazy feedback
Sweet vid mate...wouldn't mind a video of your edit station to see your machine specs.
Cheers
What are the best video cards to use.
Please help.
amzn.to/47kHYP3 These are really good.
Justin keep up!! you excellent video
fernando DISLA Thanks!
Great video Thx !
I was thinking of buying it to grade my footage as a Davinci 17 output .
Do you thing it would work , or be just too small ?
might be a tad small
Hi. Great video! Does the HDMI and SDI OUT work as a loop out during recording and if so does it cross convert between HDMI and SDI?
yupp!
@@JustinPhillip Great. Thanks!
I was so much looking for a full detailed review of these new BM Monitors! Thanks a lot Justin!!
I’m just wondering if XII tested the powering option thru the 12v special screw thing cable?? I’m considering powering it from my v mount setup on the shoulder so the dual npf doesn’t appeal to me for balancing and weight purposes.
Thanks and cheers!
oh yea i didnt even think of that. i just went straight to the dummy battery
Some cameras like FS700 is doing 4k 120p with internal buffer. It's recording in 60p. So depends of your camera ! :)
Lorenzo Morgan Jr.
If I was to pair the Blackmagic Video Assist 12G Monitor with the Blackmagic Cinema Camera 2.5K, what areas will the latest Video Assist 12G Monitor improve the BMCC 2.5K?
Great review as always! I'm currently running a Ninja V robbed from my other camera and really need a dedicated monitor for the 4K. I've been leaning towards the Portkeys BM5, however this monitor looks very compelling. My question to you is, as a one man band for the most part, the latency of this model seems like using it to pull focus in any kind of quick moving scene would be brutal. I almost feel like that makes it a deal breaker, especially since I don't need the recording capability. What are your thoughts?
JSW Photography Yeah i mean that is a concern if you’re running on gimbals a lot. I only use the Devin Graham Glidecam, and i dont even pull focus with that, i just set the lens to a 4 or a 5.6 and try my best to maintain the same distance. But i rarely do gimbal stuff, im just not a fan, and i really only do narrative work, which doesnt require a whole lot of gimbal stuff, i prefer what i can do with my Ready Rig. But i’ve also heard that they’re trying to fix the latency issue thru a fimrware update 🤷🏻♂️ idk, i much prefer the scopes and color accuracy in this monitor over the BM5. Plus the BM5 has no HDMI out, and can not monitor anything above 30fps, so keep that in mind as well. I imagine if youre doing gimbal stuff, you live in 60fps
Justin Phillip awesome insights. Thanks man!
Do we get the list of supported RAW camera over SDI?
All Blackmagic cameras, Panasonic EVA1 and Canon C300 Mk II period
@Justin Phillip thanks for the video ! you say 2 hours with theses two battery, but at 2500 nits or less ?
I actually bought one of these for simply capturing HDMI signals. I don't use it with a camera, wish me luck 🤣. I'm using it to sit in between a presenter's computer and main display at conferences, i needed something portable that i could bring with me to any event and ensure i could capture any signal coming from that HDMI for later editing with video from two other cameras that i operate from the audience.
Yeah works great for that too!
Great video !
Would this work as an HDR grading monitor as an output to Davinci 17?
it can! its fairly small for something like that. but definitely doable for portable workstation
Thank you for posting! How do you like using it (or do you) with your BMPCC4K or 6K as a PQ monitor? I use my older Atomos Ninja V in PQ monitoring with a similar LUT built in (no BM available for Ninja) that ball parks me for color how I might grade along with my waveform etc so I know how far I’m pushing the sensor. I expect the BM scopes to be more accurate with a BM camera in BRAW? True/False? Or are they fairly standard signal processing? Anyway I was thinking of getting a Atomos Shinobi for my BMPCC4K since I don’t need any recording features and keep my Ninja V on another camera, unless you think the PQ monitoring bright/peaks/shadows retention tone mapping on the 12 Video assist is vastly better?
atomos are okay monitors, but i much prefer the HDR video assist over any other monitors
Do you find using batteries more convenient than 12V power delivery from somewhere else, say, larger battery for example?
I use a dummy battery to p-tap, amzn.to/3pJoVbg
Did the new update fix some of the issues you may have had with this monitor
hoodaffairstv just put that video out. But i wasnt having any software issues to begin with
Hola para este monitor que tipo de memorias recomiendas, con que características?
Hi, is it better than Atomos for Sony A7 III?
Hi Justin.
Great run down there.
I recently received my new 12g 7" video assist. Running out of my Lumix S1H,(1080 25p) on a 8K short HDMI cable, I immediately noticed delay in signal. This is a concern as pans and focus pulls are that much harder now.
I see in your review the same lag as you pan the camera, the VA is not in sync.. Do you think this is a HDMI thing? Over BNC on ALL other monitors I use I have never seen a lag like this..
Any advice will be MOST WELCOME.
lighthackerslimited I think it’s a lot to do with the camera body. Some cameras affect lag more than others. Which is still a bummer. I’m gonna be doing a follow up and testing the lag on my BlackMagic
@@JustinPhillip I just saw another post with a different camera.. same issue too.
I am thinking it's the monitor instead of the camera...
th-cam.com/video/JJ3RPHn_dqo/w-d-xo.html
Hello, my name is Urias from Brazil... I have the nex fs700r camera and I have been trying to record in 4k on video assist blackmagic 5 ", and do not give me the option to record in 4k, that is, the video output does not show the option of 4k. You can help me
is that support sony fx6????
Hi Justin, how is this with the Pocket 4K? Can I record simultaneously on both the Pocket 4K and the Video Assist with pushing just 1 button?
Yupp!
Justin Phillip no way! That’s awesome!
nice review, i have the first 3g 5inch bm, and the most issue and i hate so much is can`t erase clips, this version fix that?
hmmm….im not sure, probably not. I havent noticed that feature. I see what you mean tho, could be a cool feature. But the amount of space you can get on these little cards is pretty dang good, and the 7 inch has dual slots. Thats what i use now, the bigger one. It also has full size SDI and mini xlr ports. I use it with my vaxis unit for my 1st AC monitor 🤙🏼
The gh4 ( My first three camera's) is primarily a 4k 8 bit camera with a 10 bit output. This recorder is capable of 10 bit raw. These are being used in talk shows. Does this effect the dynamic range in any way? ( Two for $400, good timing) I would expect a more vibrant and workable file from this recorder. This it appears you agree?
I am fortunate enough to have a Gh5 and Bmpcc 4k also. I went with Feelworld 7" 2200 nit monitors for these. Does the BlackMagic video assist here help in matching the Bmpcc 4k with the Gh5?
Thanks for all the insight.
Ray
it could help for sure, if on the Pocket 4K you are shooting with their extended video LUT, and then shooting on the GH5 in Vlog, and sending that out to the HDR Video Assist, because it has the same LUTs on it that the Pocket 4K has. still would need some tweaking in Resolve obviously, but yeah, that could help getting closer for sure.
@@JustinPhillip Since you mentioned age I will give a hint here. ... (While hanging out on the sets of Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, Taxi, and a few more I watched a lot of multi camera productions and the time saved creating content. And got paid for it.)
Just shot my first Raw Q0 on the P 4k . I haven't put luts on in camera yet but will start later today. I have been hesitating on the Vlog for the Gh5. So would you agree it is time invest in the Vlog as a long term approach.
My experience has been to use the Gh5 as a wide camera with two Gh4's crossing medium to close. I am using the Lumix 12-35 and a pair of 35 -100 for lenses.
If I hit the lotto today there would be three ursa g2's and three S1h's on order. I am floored since finding out film is 13 stops of dynamic range!
A movie studio is my dream legacy. We must Dream and thanks again.
What frame guides are available
Justin, can you say anything about fan noise and use with shotgun mic attached to a small camera rig like the one you use in the video? Is it noisy?
Chris Kooistra This monitor is very noisy
Thank you for this great video. I got a question for you. Is it possible to use AF tracking focus (face and eyes) on Sony a7 Mark III using Blackmagic Video Assist?
i dont know about that, you mean like touch to AF? you should check out PortKeys BM5 for something like that
Justin I have some old DVCAM and HDV tapes I want to digitize and use this device. Do you see any issues with that? Both players have 3G/SDI (SD/HD) output. I also have the option of converting both SDI source feeds to HDMI through the BM SD->HDMI bi-directional convertor (probably not needed).
not sure about that one
What about the latency Justin? I would like to buy it to have BRAW but I observed latency with this monitor recorder on several videos which is too dangerous for focus pulling. Thanks for your reply :)
hmm....my 1st AC still uses this monitor when pulling focus for me. I haven't noticed any extreme issues with it, but we use SDI. So maybe there is more latency issues with HDMI or even with the wireless receiver you're using. We havent noticed anything concerning. I replaced the 5" with the 7" tho sometime ago....not sure if the 7" is better in terms of latency...the reason why i got rid of the 5" is because the mini SDI broke
@@JustinPhillipThank you Justin! I saw more people has 4 or 5 frames of latency with the 7inch version (because of the xlr ports). We can also see it during conventions. They reduced the latency without using the xlr. I never find someone who used these two monitors to record BRAW and that's what I want to do. I guess the only thing I need to do is to buy it and try. Thank you very much for your reply🙏
I received the BMVA 5' and I have no latency, even in BRAW 6K and very nice HDR colors. I am so happy, thank you for your reply ;) It has already frozen several times but maybe it's because I send the HDM signal to the BMVA and then from the BMVA to a SmallHD 702 touch. The guy at Blackmagic told me it will be impossible to have a second monitor and that I will have a black screen. He was wrong I can, but I think it could block the BMVA... I hope it is the only reason. And finally, i understand why your's broke, the mini SDI are very bad and waaay too long...
Will this accept analog standard def signals via the SDI in?
Great review I have just received my 5inch video assist hdr monitor and am about to do my own review on my channel and wondered has yours got a green shift in the monitor image mine seems to be slightly shifted to the green I have tried all the adjustments but no difference also when changing from ProRes to DNxHR the colour shift changes.
David Hoult hmmm, no i don’t have green shift. Maybe something going on from your camera end?
@@JustinPhillip Not sure looks fine on my Shinobi
David Hoult hmmm, yeah i dont know, you adjust the saturation levels? It could be your lights have a green shift and you just never had a good enough monitor to tell...do you have any green plus or minus gels? 🤷🏻♂️
Justin Phillip Yes adjusted the saturation and tried it with natural light just from my window in the studio I have messaged blackmagic and am waiting for a reply but I’ll keep testing and see what I find.
Justin Phillip Hi just a update had contact with blackmagic and they have said their engineers are aware of the colour shift problem and are looking into it and will release a firmware update to fix it just don’t know when.
I made it that long, so THANKS 😊 for call me pretty damn COOL 😎. GREAT 👍🏽 video as usual.
Ski-ter Jones Awesome! Appreciate it 🙌🏼
Hey, what your camera for this video and what metabone u use for this video. Thanky please answer
Hypebusters All gear is listed in the description. You just have to do a little bit of scrolling. Thanky please
Justin Phillip i know bro, but you put 2 camera in the description. So thats make me so confuse. I just ask one camera u use for record this video and what metabone u use
Hypebusters AH I see. Pocket 4K, Metabones Ultra Cine Lock, and Zeiss 50mm f/1.4
If Videotimecode is coming in , will the sdi-out port pass that timecode on? thanks.
Would have to test
@@JustinPhillip That would be great.
Is it possible to record 6K/4K(BMPCC) in camera and another lower format inside the monitor simultaneously (for proxies reasons)? And also can you control your camera settings from the monitor, iso etc?
Spiros Petropoulos Yes you can record in lower format, whatever you choose on monitor, and some cameras you can downrez. But no, as of right now, you can not change camera settings from the monitor
Man thank you!! Keep rocking your videos are very helpful!!!
Is there any solution for timecode input into the monitor? Can the 7'' read audio timecode via the mini xlr from a tentacle sync e?
Can I have it being used via HDMI in and have it loop out VIA the SDI out? Or does it only work with the input you are using? I am wanting to use the HDMI input but want to loop out via the SDI output.
i believe you could do that
The black magic video asistan can record BRAW from a Canon, Nikon or Sony?
Canon c300ii and Panasonic EVA1...
If the monitor had built in video receiver and a transmitter to put on any cam I’m sure they would sell a lot of them.
Can you colour grade DCI-P3 on a PC? I've only seen films graded on a big projection.
It's a technology that's in screens, not the data
P3 is a colour gamut. It just specifies the breadth of unique colours within a defined standard. Why it's an industry standard - you kind of explained but it's not tech, so much as it's a specification.
You can grade in srgb, rec709, P3 and more on the same computer/monitor.
Because it's a wide colour gamut, companies are keen to say that their product's displays are P3. It's a marketing thing. Most of the time, they're displaying a % of P3, not actually displaying 100% of the colours (but probably all of 709 for instance).
Edit: in short, it is data :)
Miles M Thanks for clarifying! Blackmagic boasts that this monitor covers 100% of the DCP-3 gamut 🤷🏻♂️
I tried using the Video Assist 12G to record HDMI output from a GH5 in HLG 10-bit 422 MOV mode, into DNxHR HQX format MOV files. MediaInfo says the files are recorded in BT.2020 color space, but with Transfer Characteristics: Rec. 709. When I play back the MOV files with the Video Assist HDMI output plugged directly into a Samsung Q70R, the HDTV fails to switch into HDR mode. I have successfully played back internally recorded HLG MOV files from the GH5, which automatically switch the Q70R into HDR mode. MediaInfo says these files are recorded by the GH5 in BT.2020 color space with Transfer Characteristics: HLG.
Does anyone know if the Video Assist 12G can record HLG format DNxHR MOV files with the correct HLG metadata?
just sold my Atomos Ninja getting this instead, goodbye Atomos and your Pro res raw bs, hello braw. Thank you for the video Justin keep up the good work.
Is there a list somewhere of all the cameras that the Video Assist can Record BRAW from?
Aaron Peipert Nothing that I can find. I know Canon Cinema Cameras, Panasonic EV1, and i believe some Sony cameras. But that’s just what they’ve been saying and demo-ing at the trade shows
@@JustinPhillip so the GH5 can have it's image exported in BRAW?
David Griffin No, GH5 is ProRes only.
@@JustinPhillip thank you. Will that open & edit in Davinci Resolve 16 on a PC?
David Griffin Yes
Does it come with a Resolve license?
negative
So, you can't record vfr slow motion with this monitor then??
Overcrank is a function inside of the camera. What you can do is record 60fps on the monitor and then slow it down in post.
@@JustinPhillip So, I'm limited to 60fps then. If I wanted to record 120fps using vfr then I'd have to do it inside the camera. I have a GH5 and I'm Looking for a monitor. Thanks for your reply :) 🙏
where are people seeing that blackmagic said they’d fix the lag? i googled but couldn’t find anything
John Probably a rumor. Blackmagic update their stuff all the time, so maybe that’s where it came from 🤷🏻♂️
holy lag! are you still using it after a year?
yupp. i have the 7” version now, for 1st AC monitor. Theres no lag with Komodo. GH5 was notorious for hdmi lag
@@JustinPhillip so the lag is a GH5 thing? good to know.
@@daslolo Totally. it’s notorious for that
@@JustinPhillip I noticed quite a bit of a lag on the S5 as well. What camera do you use for work?
@@daslolo RED Komodo
blackmagic needs to buy came tv and embed their propriety wireless video tech into their monitors
That’d be awesome, to compete with smallHD
I really don't like it doesn't have an audio-in.
the audio is transmitted through sdi or hdmi. But the 7” one does have xlr
@@JustinPhillip Yeah I know, I wouldn't really call that audio in. It means I have to connect audio on the camera, way less versatile. Mini xlr is perfect, but the 5" imo could at least have had a line/mini jack in (like the Ninja V does).
Lol, you have 128GB SD cards, and here I am, recording a max of 5 minutes BRAW 12:1 on my tiny 8GB SD's (no, I didn't buy these for this camera lol).
Klatcha Bobby Hey, i remember a time when i didnt have enough memory cards for jobs and running to Target during lunch break! 🤣🙌🏼
Justin Phillip The T5 will definitely be in my shopping cart soon
I saw this video a while ago and was really impressed with this monitor, but today I tried it and the colors are really bad. They are waaaay off. My cheap freeworld does a much better job. Yellow becomes purple/red-ish! And you can't even calibrate it? Its ridiculous.
do you have the latest firmware? And you can adjust the contrast & saturation
@@JustinPhillip i can adjust the sat and brightness, but that doesn't change the colors... Yellow is still purple/red
@@TheBjornarv Firmware 3.3.1?
@@JustinPhillip firmware 3.3
@@TheBjornarv bad egg i suppose
Anyone else notice the video artifact at about 15 frames after 11:32
Otab Will Yupp! I noticed that in Premiere as well. What’s going on there?
Justin Phillip i vaguely remember seeing a similar artifact mentioned by other people using the bmpcc 4k. Maybe check with black magic.
Otab Will oh wow. ok 👌🏼
I don't like it as you can't use SSD's like the Atomos Ninja V.
Shark The Smasung T5 is an SSD, much smaller & lighter even
Fair enough Justin.