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Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!! And it's set at Jesus's birthday!!!!!!! This....actually makes it even more fucked up He tries to kill the children in Christmas Eve.... Its like Santa sending his helpers to kidnap children for deaths....... Wow
@@wstine79 willy wonka was based on Santa Claus Rewards charlie for good and the ompa loompas despite what sjws say in hindsight were not racist but actually based on Santa's elves
This might sound strange, but hear me out. In The Penguin funeral scene, I think we are meant to empathize with the penguins (plural, lowercase), not THE Penguin. All his life, The Penguin wanted to be accepted and loved despite his deformities. Time and time again, he fails to fit in with human society, either for his superficial ugliness, or his ugliness inside. The penguins however love him unconditionally, and don't begrudge his animalistic, savage nature, as animals themselves. The Penguin however, becomes lost forever chasing the affection he can never have, rather than embracing his true nature, his kin and his home. The penguins know the beasts need to stay with the other beasts, and lament the tragic soul who failed to learn life's greatest lesson.
Plus, it totally fits with the movie's overarching theme, which is duality. All three main characters are caught between two identities and having a hard time coping with that fact. While Batman/Bruce's duality ultimately makes him a force for good, Penguin/Oswald's failure to reconcile his conflicting identities turns him evil. Catwoman/Selina, who has to deal with the same type of inner conflict, which is highlighted through her relationship with Batman/Bruce, is also torn between good (Batman) and evil (Penguin). She's torn between both possible outcomes of being caught between two identities. In her case, we could say it's a duality within a duality.
The first born thing wasn’t truly random. Penguin was the first born but was rejected by his parents. So he wanted to get back at the other first borns by killing them
@@ahabduennschitz7670 It's an anti-Moses angle with Penguin. Moses was cast into the river so his life would be _spared,_ Penguin was cast into the river with hopes he'd be _killed._ The Exodus story also lists the final plague as "Death Of The First Born" but in that story Moses merely announced it and gave him a lot of remorse over it whereas Penguin is _happily_ enacting the plague himself and eventually ups it to _all_ children of Gotham.
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Not that far off actually. Akiva Goldman's OG script for Batman Forever was actually very dark and psychological (If anything, very ahead of its time). A lot of these ideas were in fact filmed, there was a 170 minute Assembly Cut with a lot of these ideas. They considered releasing this back in 2005, but chose not to. The Dennis O'Neil Comic Adaptation keeps a lot of those scenes. But in editing, the focus groups cut out almost all of that. #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
the cops show up at Wayne Manor Commissioner Gordon: "So, uh, we noticed that you have several very large bat signals that shine directly into your house whenever we activate the signal at HQ..." Bruce: "I just like to stay informed when the Batman is called to action." Gordon: "Seems legit..Have a good evening, Bruce." Bruce: "...I..I can't believe that worked.."
What I love the most about this film is how Tim Burton really went out 100% with his love of German expressionism in the visuals and references, like the art-deco statues, angular black shadows, and naming a villain after Nosferatu. some of the shots could be taken straight from The Cabinet of Dr Caligari!
Yeah, that was some amazing world-building right there. It totally makes sense to use German expressionism as a reference point for a Detective Comics movie, too, for Batman's Gotham City belongs to the same country as Superman's city which is named after the German expressionist movie Metropolis.
When your parents throw you in a river and you end up being adopted by penguins, I'm guessing there WOULD be psychological issues. In that context, it works.
For me the thing about the penguin funeral goes back to a lot of animals' reputations for loving humans regardless of how horrible we may be in general or even horrible to them. I see the tenderness not in him, but in the penguins' unconditional/parental love for him. They don't see his ruthlessness, just someone they hold dear OR don't see his ruthlessness as reason to stop loving him; it's worse considering the possibility some of the penguins who raised him may still be alive and mourning their child.
@@Perid0tStar Oh shoot, obviously with the exploding Gotham plan, yeah, but never thought of the training part. They were all so willing though. I wonder if there were others who didn't go and what happened to them? How well did the penguins understand how explosives work to still be willing to go? Or was there mind control involved? So much potential codependency... so much they would do for do for him...
I'll take it even further than that: All four main characters (Bruce, Selina, Schreck, and Penguin) appear in that scene, yet out of the four of them, Schreck, the so- called "Respected monster," is the only one wearing a mask. Heavy symbolism there, as Schreck is the only one of them hiding his true nature (His greed and cruelty, hidden behind a "Mask" of superficial philanthropy).
This movie kind of acts like a strange nexus point for Penguin. A lot of the comics pre-this movie paint him as a forgotten son of Gotham royalty on the same level as the Waynes. But after this movie, he started being portrayed as someone with delusions of grandeur, thinking himself to be on the same level as the Waynes. Regardless, I see why people were lobbying for DeVito to reprise the role for the Pattinson movie being filmed right now. He encapsulates both mindsets to this very day.
I’m a die hard Batman fan. But the penguin was the one villain I always thought to be the most overrated. I never cared about him in any show, comic, or anything. But Penguin in Batman Returns was always my favorite version of him. I loved how sick and disgusting he was. And unlike most people I actually kinda did feel bad for the guy. Always was in my opinion the most underrated Batman movie villain. But just my opinion!
I think the idea was that the cobblepots were a fallen family, and Penguin was obsessed with getting his family name back to the level of high of society that’s why he has an envy attitude towards the waynes.
@@LyleStyle87 Funny enough; speaking of Gotham, the actor that played Penguin's dad in that show, Paul Reubens, also played Penguin dad's in this film.
Setting aside v for vendetta and. Watchmen, which are meant to be dark first Can you really honestly think of any other comic book movie that is this gothic and dark and honestly as dark and tragic as Frankenstein drawing from Moses and a psychotic nervous breakdown, child killing All in a SUPER HERO MOVIE........... Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@CLDJ227 It was right around when Selina tossed the carton of milk at the answering machine that I realized "So this is where the Critic's freakout in Foodfight came from"
The first half of this scene was deleted. Penguin looks at Bruce Wayne's face and says, "Without that mask, you are drop-dead handsome!" Then he grabs and umbrella and tries to shoot him with it. "So DROP DEAD!" That's when the cute umbrella pops open, revealing that Penguin grabbed the wrong one.
I always thought it was kept fairly ambiguous. Did she really supernaturally have nine lives, or was it all just in her head and she just got extremely lucky?
@@LordMalice6d9 that's a good question... sort of a twisted placebo effect. Either way she survives eight potentially fatal injuries and even counts down as she is repeatedly shot. I think it's in her head
@@LordMalice6d9 Near the end of the film Selina does mention she had nine lives but she was down to six (due to penguin dropping her into the greenhouse, batman knocking her off the building, and I guess when she first fell because max pushed her off the building it counts as a life lost) before Max shoots her four times leaving her with two left, and then she grabbed the power cable and used another life to fry Max. By the end she only has one life left.
@@tanandalynch9441 Yes but she clearly says to Max "You killed me, the penguin killed me, Batman killed me! That's three lives down you think you got enough in there to finish me off?" I personally wasn't sure if it counts but her word is what we got so likely it does count, I imagine the resurrection she got cost a life I guess because max doesn't kill her again until he starts blowing holes in her with the gun.
Yep, she technically died 8 times, not counting her first fall before transforming. If Shreck had shot her one more time, Catwoman would have remained dead forever.
This movie is a fairy tale, and it's best left ambiguous whether her nine lives is actually supernatural or a poetic way of describing her uncommon luck.
Anyone else notice they gave Killer Croc's back story to Penguin? Seriously, abandoned by his parents, grew up in the sewers, joined a circus, and he bites people. So this is just Danny Devito playing Killer Croc.
@@jinhunterslay1638 Penguin has a physical deformity that makes him look more bird-like, but that didn't really affect him all that much. He's mostly just a high-class gangster, with trick umbrellas to make him more cartoony.
Fun fact: Batman cannot turn his neck in this costume so he has to physically spin around if something is just out of his line of sight. Hilarious to watch for. Merry Christmas!!!
Apparently the batsuit for Tim Burtons's Batman 3 would have had a movable neck, but we all know what happened there. Look up "Batman Continues", there are some interesting preproduction leaks.
Here are some Fun fact 1. Arnold Schwarzenegger appears in cameo in Max's office you can see him in a photo with alongside Max. Foreshadowing Schwarzenegger actually joining Batman franchise years later surprised director didn't retcon it saying Victor Fries knew Max. 2. Paul Reubens reprised the role of Penguin's father in Gotham tv series 3. Selina Kyle quotes the Joker 4. Burgress Meredith was suppose to play Tucker Cobblepot but due to his poor health he rejected the offer 5. Shreck was suppose to appear in Batman the Animated Series at the studios behest but at the last minute it was decided to reimagine the character as Roland Daggett
Just to add to point 3, Selina and the Joker both quoted a real life song lyric. That song is even listed in the film credits specifically for that reason. It's not a case of Selina somehow knowing something that the Joker said despite that being impossible.
@@RoboBeastWarrior lot of people didn't catch her quiting joker despite her not being in the same room as him but it was a nice reference to the clown prince of crime
You really DON'T have to choose between whether the character is likeable or not based on their sympathetic moments. The only thing that matters is that the character believes themselves to be in the right, and thus justifying their actions. Saying you CAN'T have a character like Penguin have moments where they feel pain and reflect on their dark past, is asking for REALLY 2-dimensional villains. Penguin's motivations come from a seething hatred and sadness that comes from his abandonment issues. It's not meant to be silly or villainous, it's meant to be sad... Just because his way of processing is that he becomes a hate filled murderer doesn't mean he doesn't deserve times to reflect on his backstory as a way of showing the audience how he's been affected.
I was 8 and my brother was 6 when our mother brought us to see this movie in theater. She was appalled by how dark and scary it was, while we were both ecstatic about it. It felt like we just saw something forbidden. It remains one of my fondest childhood memories to this day.
Gonna be honest first time I saw this movie when it got the Penguin death and the penguins started coming out and walking toward him I literally said, "Oh God they are going to eat his corpse!" Which honestly I think could have easily been in this movie
I’m glad you decided to be honest about this. Not gonna lie, I was expecting you to lie, but now I realize you were being straight with us, which is cool and surprising.
The wholesome ending kinda tugged my heart strings a little Not only because I’ve had the worst of 2020 with losing my mother to cancer and finding her dead, not being able to properly say goodbye with a funeral. And being disabled with autism living on $800 a month it’s kind of a really hard thing not to end your life over it’s been pretty rough and your videos do put a spark and some happiness this year. Hope you have a happy Christmas Doug thanks for the laughs
So sorry for your loss. I pray you have some comfort during these hard times. Just know that she's in the Lord's hands and that you're being watched over.
That ending was really sweet. Especially Barney's smile, he always seemed like a very Santa-ish person. Hope he makes it through the pandemic unaffected and healthy. Merry Christmas
Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!! And it's set at Jesus's birthday!!!!!!! This....actually makes it even more fucked up He tries to kill the children in Christmas Eve.... Its like Santa sending his helpers to kidnap children for deaths....... Wow
I’d like to think in this universe, Killer Croc is a gentlemanly crime boss gangster who owns a nightclub, seeing as Penguin is a circus freak cannibal pervert monster who lives in the sewers.
It's weird as fuck.... prolly my least favorite Batman movie after Batman & Robin. I don't mind things being a little over-the-top, but there are limits, and Tim Burton says "fuck the limits". Michelle Pfeifer will always be sexy though. Better Catwoman than Anne Hathaway.
half of the reviews are from butthurt parents who said the movie was too dark for kids i blame them for batman and robin i kind of like batman forever mostly because of Jim carrey
Fun fact: This was only the FIRST time Paul Rubens played The Penguin's father. He also played the father to Robin Lord Taylor's version of The Penguin, though not a Cobblepot, Penguin getting his surname from his mother (and anglicized from Kapelput), nonetheless he played his father, Elijah Van Dahl.
“How many times does she survive a fall?” Someone didn’t get the whole nine lives thing. Or the fact that she hated her life as timid Selina, so she wasn’t being a hypocrite to the woman she saved about needing Batman to save her. That’s the whole point of the dialogue man.
Yeah it was a good review overall, but I didn't agree with some of his points. Her mental breakdown being "funny"...wtf? I find more depth than humor out of that. And yeah, he completely missed the point of why she said that to the woman -- because she was once a helpless victim; i.e., women empowerment. But I guess his "hypocrite" remark was more of him being funny on purpose, so I don't want to take it overly serious.
I love the fact the guy who directed Sweeney Todd, Batman Returns, And Sleepy Hollow, is scared of Walken. Edit: Walken is in Sleepy Hollow, shouldn’t it be titled The Walken Dead? 😄
This is my personal favorite Batman movie out of the two Burton films and Schoemachur films. I like the direction this movie took with the villains and catwoman acting like the antihero that she is. Some people think that this movie hasn't aged well, and to an extent is right but I feel that the story and the direction they take the characters helps to make this a favorite of the Batman films for me.
This Was My Favorite Movie 🍿🎥 as a really Young Child when I was 5 I had a 6 year old Girlfriend and We would pretend to be Catwoman and Batman from This Movie. lots of nostalgia
I believe I've only ever seen this movie ONCE in my whole life!...But it left a damn impact! Personally, I don't think I was phased by Batman killing because 1) I never read the comics, only became a fan from the first movie and 2) they were just so over the top that it never looked real to me; even as a child. I grew up on Tom & Jerry, I figured they were just really big boo-boos. And you are so right, of all the Batman characters I've seen, Christopher Walken I never believed was anyone but himself! 17:09 Took the words right out of my mouth...
The Catwoman breakdown scene in her apartment scarred me as a kid (so did the kidnapping of the kids). Took me years to watch this movie again, though I appreciate what Tim Burton was going for now.
There was that previous scene in her apartment, where it shows how miserable her life is. That’s a pretty mature scene, that shouldn’t really be in a kids movie: a beautiful hard working woman, tired, returns to her empty apartment, with nobody expecting her, but a cat, a message from her annoying mom, an advertisement for a perfume that any man will love and, which reminds her that she “of course” doesn’t have one. No kid would get that, but I like that scene. Now most character development we get is: “This is Jake, he loves doughnuts”.
I've laughed and cried simultaneously as far back as the late 90s. Did it so hard I passed out at the kitchen table and scared the shit out of my sister once. "Mood stabilizers" my fat ass.
I still love how Andrew impersonates the Walken accent and manner of speaking so it’s even more believable that his character is that guys son.. it’s just perfect really. Honestly probably the best part of the movie.
28:30 honestly one of my favorite episodes of that show. He came so close to being reformed..... People mocked him, but he stood strong.... But the betrayal of someone he thought he could trust sent him spiralling back into his egotistic insanity....
Still got 80% on Rotten Tomatoes “Director Tim Burton's dark, brooding atmosphere, Michael Keaton's work as the tormented hero, and the flawless casting of Danny DeVito as The Penguin and Christopher Walken make the sequel better than the first.” Still was one of the highest grossing films at the time I was very surprised many took issue with its dark tone and McDonald’s afraid of marketing the toys I grew up in the 90s and didn’t notice people’s concern about Batman killing until Batman v Superman, people would have a heart attack over that more than anything That’s pretty cool though about Michelle Pfeiffer finding her whip from her filming days Every actor should have one keepsake Shame Burton couldn’t make more movies as well as Schulmacher then again we wouldn’t have gotten Nolan’s take on the material Props to Doug of adding the heartfelt segment at the end putting channel awesomes cast’s pictures together given everything we’ve gone through this year Let’s all remain strong and hopeful
@@mckenzie.latham91 I actually agree with that Batman shouldn't kill , though I think that Batman can kill, depending on what adaptation both the director & writer wants as visual medium is different from comic style of storytelling; this batman is what Burton wanted and he got it.
I suppose one could say that the "first born son" thing still makes a kind of sense if you see The Penguin as a Moses analogue- complete with being cast into the river as an infant. Oh, and DeVito apparently also ate a significant piece of whole raw fish for the part, which isn't quite as remarkable as the Pfeiffer bird thing, but still suggests a certain level of commitment.
Rather an anti Moses. Moses was sent down the Nile to save his life while Penguin's parents tried to drown him. And beasts adopt him not a caring princess. And besides Moses and the firstborn dying in the plague there may be some king Herod killing the infants inside as well. It's the ugly part of the Nativity...
I always interpreted it as an act of revenge by proxy. Oswald was a firstborn and his parents tossed him away, but he can't get revenge on them because they're already dead. Therefore, since his own parents tried to kill him, he will now kill all of the firstborns in the city.
This is easily one of the best Batman movies. Then again I prefer the Tim Burton Batmans over Christopher Nolan, they're not only well acted, the atmosphere is just amazing.
Christopher Nolan wasn't bad but they didn't have the same comic book feel as the Burtonverse movies. Nolan's was more like if you took a serial killer out of jail and put him in a Batman costume.
What about Eartha Kit's? Hers was pretty fun to watch. However, I will admit this Catwoman is definitely S tier! The emotions brought to her performance were just top notch 👌🏾🔥 Hoping to God that Zoe Kravitz brings something great to the table when the new batman comes out🙏🏾
Batman, is a true hero of gender equality. He's the hero we need in these dark, & troubling times of the society we created, & are now forced to live in.
Dark, Gothic, dramatic, depressing in numerous scenes, funny when comedy is needed. Good action. FRIGHTENING when seeing it at a young age, and memorable to this day. Quotable, solid character introductions and development. Also, it's like the story of baby moses, how baby penguin was dropped in the river and taken to new home ( just writing that, The Critic said the Prince of Egypt) WOA.Merry Christmas ya'll. (extra coment) THIS IS THE STORY of Moses, original Max and Penguin were bros, the lady saying he ( Penguin) was like a frog turning to a prince. ( frog, reference to 1 of the plagues) kidnapping ( and going to kill) the 1st born males of Gotham, just like the angel of death... Yep, Batman Returns is The Prince of Egypt, Ten Commandments, Moses. damn
Penguin whenever I hear him say things sexually, he comes off like a mutant pervert lusting for that "Pootang". In 1992, you can get away with this but in 2020-21 onwards it would be seen as "sexual harassment". I still enjoy Batman Returns but watching it now almost 30 years later it is very, very fucked up but know what? It's awesome!
Everyone talks about how bad these movies were, but I grew up watching these and never really had a problem with them. I don't know if I have nostalgia bias, but these are defiantly some of my favorite films
I have a disagreement with Penguin's characterization. We the audience are shown how tragic his life has been, but only because we need that context for how he manages to get through the story the way that he does. We also see what a complete monster of a person he is simply BECAUSE we're the audience. It makes us root for Batman all the more. In-universe, the fact that his monstrous tendencies are so kept in check and under wraps while they push his tragedy as hard as they do is only done for the people's perspective. It's a plot device, used to move the story forward. We the audience still know he's a total dickbag, but we're given all this fluff about him being sympathetic because the rest of the world in the movie is being fed it in order to get them on his side, not to get the audience on his side.
@@Jacqthepossposs Yeah; real tragic. Shame that basically every adaptation portrays Killer Croc as little more than a brute. I get it; he's not the brightest bulb in Batman's Rouges Gallery, but could we maybe see more to him on a character level than just a thug? I'm honestly surprised that, as far as I know, the show _Gotham_ never involved Killer Croc. That could've been a perfect opportunity for showing audiences his origins.
@@Jacqthepossposs Because I'm not counting comics as "adaptations"; I'm counting them as source material. I thought that was clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I don’t know why people don’t remember or rather forget this movie it’s freakin awesome and great sequel to batman and probably the only time we get good Batman movie for a long time
Interestingly, Tim Burton didn’t want to do another Batman cause of how much the first Batman became a “studio” Batman. He only came back after the studio agreed to give him carte blanche.
And WB got what they wanted. At the time, they felt nobody could make a Batman movie besides Burton that even when he left to do Edward Scissorshands, they decided to wait until he'd make his decision. Meanwhile, Burton was done with Batman. He said he was disappointed on the film, feeling it was a bit dull and the aforementioned studio notes like Prince, Batman's Nike shoes, a ninja goon, and a Phantom of the Opera inspired climax in the church. And suddenly having all this big attention from fans and non fans had to be scary for a once Disney animator. He questioned "As long as Batman was on the poster, would it even matter who directed the damn thing?" According to the screenwriter, Wesley Strick, he revealed Burton told him he was sick and tired of Superhero Movies and compared them to Chinese water torture and he asked him, if that's how he felt then why is he doing the sequel and Burton revealed he learned a lot since then and wanted to improve himself and make the mistakes he felt he made in the first film. Which also meant redesigning Gotham, the batsuit, the sets, and gadgets with new designers. It became a point that Burton jokingly wanted to call it "Batman" again instead of a sequel. So much so, you don't really need to watch the first movie to see this one. You can tell this was much closer to what he imagined a Batman movie. He also wrote a treatment back in 1985 that had many elements from Returns, Joker wanting to be mayor from a shady businessman (Rupert Thorne), a wintery Gotham, similarly described locations like the City Hall and the giant tree, or Joker's headquarters having spiral stairs like Penguin's, and even Batman gliding in the sky. But after the movie came out, nobody knew how to feel about it. Kids and parents didn't know how to feel with this dystopian fairytale style Batman with arthouse levels of weirdness like Penguin pucking black slime, cats chewing Selina's fingers while her eyes roll back, or Penguin biting a guy's nose off. And an ending that's a bit downbeat with everyone dead and Bruce left alone on Christmas. (Hurray?) But it was something WB wanted all along. But this was before reboots were a thing and it was too early to end the series. But they were left clueless for a third movie and weren't sure if they wanted Burton to come back and only had one meeting with him to talk him out of the project before Burton caught on what they were trying to say and he left. They were exactly how Burton felt from the beginning before he directed a second movie; "As long as Batman was on the poster, would it even matter who directed the damn thing?"
I like penguin's funeral Funerals are attened by friends and family But he has no friends (the circus crew are more like henchmen) and his human family is dead (plus they tried to drown him as a child) So the only ones who truly cared about oswald was the penguins
Creator's Favorite Episode: Tim Burton has mentioned in several interviews that he had a much more funnier time making the sequel and he also considers it better and more enjoyable than the previous film, which he said was good but felt “boring at times”.
Probably because the Waner Bros executives were involved in the production with the frist one, since that movie mad money like no tomorrow back in the day. They let Tim have free range on creativity in the sequel.
I was seven when this movie came out: old enough to be the perfect “Batman demographic”, but young enough to be the “won’t somebody think of the children” mindset that the world was afraid would be corrupted by this movie. I can tell you, in the entire flick, only three scenes freaked me out: 1.) The mugger getting his face sliced by Catwoman. 2.) The “blood gushing from the nose” scene. 3.) The Penguin’s funeral. That last part didn’t corrupt me, by the way. I just felt bad for the penguins. Poor lil’ fellas...
Same, I was sad because of the penguins and the sad music, not much because of the Penguin himself. Those penguins technically raised him (or, well, for a while before he was supposedly found and raised at the circus) so it's kinda like Tarzan's ape family mourning him if he ever died.
That weird woman saying "He's like a frog that became a prince", the way she says it always reminds me of a musical; like how they say a phrase and then begin singing about it. I expected all the extras around her w/ newspapers to start singing a song about Penguin turning into a good guy or something.
The whole sequence of lines reminds me of that. With the winter/Christmas setting, the much cleaner look of Gotham (vs. the original) and the goody-goody quality of the people, it always seemed like Burton was giving the city something of a Frank Capra vibe, which makes the Penguin look even more grotesque.
@@matthintz9468 I think it was a way of illustrating how Gotham has improved because of Batman's presence, but underneath they all still have a dark side, because crime never really goes away completely.
Thing about the batman/catwoman relationship note, she's become more of an anti-hero, and the two have actually been canonically romantically linked from time to time since this movie dropped
Before. Before 1985 there were at least Two Earths in the Comics Earth 1 and Earth 2. Earth 2 was the Earth launched back in 1938 with Superman, Batman etc. On Earth 2 Batman was older married to Selina Kyle with their teenaged daughter Helena Wayne aka The Huntress. After Crisis in 1985 Helena was reintroduced on Earth Prime as Helena Bertinelli The Huntress
@@MrJackfaire I knew about the multiple earths, but forgot about the Batman in it. Thanks for the catch! Seems it hit the mainstream after this iteration, as far as I can tell
Wait, why did they remove the plot about Penguin and Shreck being brothers? That would have fixed so many of the problems. Penguin wants revenge for his parents favoring Shreck and trying to kill him, and Catwoman teams up with him because Shreck tried to kill her. There, that connects so much without feeling forced.
22:43 I don’t know. It makes for cartoons,but it’s a movie. But if they throw trash like Papers,glass bottles,banana peels make sense or rocks it would’ve make sense. I know,the movie directors messed that up and don’t care for Logic.
I personally love the relationship Bruce and Selena have. The movie shows how crazy and similar they are. I love the game they have, pretending they don't know their secret identity.
We are definitely supposed to feel sympathetic towards the Penguin, especially in the beginning when as a baby he’s thrown off the bridge by his parents (antithesis of Bruce Wayne’s parents being murdered) and then feel conflicted when he turns full monster, just like the character himself is struggling with throughout the movie
I see this version of the Penguin as similar to the Phantom of the Opera, someone who could have had a normal life of his deformity didn't leave him shunned by everyone, even his family, thus turning him into the monster they saw him as, a shirt of self-fulfilling prophecy it you will. It makes him a very tragic villain, hence the depressing music over much of his scenes.
Every time that they find out that the Batcave is underneath stately Wayne Manor, they automatically think that means that Bruce Wayne is Batman. You know, people, Batman could be renting that cave from Bruce. They went to the same college.
I still love this movie to this day. Selina Kyles break down was very memorable, and the bitter tragic relationship between her and Bruce felt genuine and more 3 dimensional, like she wasn't just a new bland love interest. Also it's stylish as hell and the soundtrack gives me chills.
Besides all its weirdness, Batman Returns, because of doing what it does in terms of its characters, is much more relatable than most recent comic book movies. (I'll give Logan, Shazam and Wonder Woman an honorary mention here, though.) Batman Returns' world-building, however, is insanely good and what it still excells in to date: Gotham fuckin' City, home of the freaks! None of the recent live action comic book movies came even close. (Although I will include honorary mentions of Gotham City's depiction in Todd Phillips cinematic drama Joker, of the brilliant animation movie Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse with its endearing homage to the comic books aesthetic, and of the visually fine but otherwise bland Aquaman live action feature film.)
And then Tim Burton helped with the Beetlejuice cartoon. Years later: Tim Burton creates crappy or okay movies. Good movies of Tim: We’re the best, awesome, okay, and other positive words Bad movies of Tim: We’re crappy and all of the negative words. Beetlejuice fandom: We have a Broadway show, cartoon and movie. Other Tim Burton fandoms: We’re still okay, but not as popular as that guy. ‘Points at Beetlejuice.’
I’m sorry guys. It’s just a little joke, I like the other Tim Burton fandoms too. It’s just, I like the idea of Beetlejuice. A small story about the dead. A “small” story.
Holy crap, that doordash ad was next level special. I simultaneously appreciate the classic 'You like me!' line whilst despairing that anyone born after 1995 is unlikely to understand or appreciate it.
About the end: It’s a shame that Channel Awesome couldn’t really do the Christmas pic together in one room due to the COVID pandemic, but at least they did what they could to make it happen. I hope that one day, in the new year, they are all allowed to return to their headquarters. 2020 has been a depressing year. MERRY CHRISTMAS CHANNEL AWESOME... 🎅🏻🎄☃️❤️
Just out of curiosity who's the guy between Jim Jaroz and Barney Walker? Because I think remember seeing him at the Nutcracker 3D review but also the end of it when everyone watches to the ending of the review of The Christmas Tree with both of Doug's parents with him
@@ChrisNeufeldMusic Huh? Malcolm is on the left next to Rob Walker and Brad Jones. I'm talking about the guy on the right in between Barney Walker and Jim Jaroz
The Doordash ad should’ve ended this way. Doug: Goes to door Wilkins: Care for a cup of Wilkins Coffee? Doug: indistinctly yells in disgust *gunshot* Wilkins: Things just seem to happen to people who don’t drink Wilkins.
lol @ 26:30. Great review Doug. I loved this movie as a kid and still do and I always found it weird Keaton played the McDonald's founder as well. Brava.
For a random piece of trivia: when reading the "Please Don't Tell My Parents I'm A Supervillain" series, I was visualizing Michelle Pfeiffer as Claire's mom, Misty Lutra aka the Minx (basically a Catwoman analog with something akin to Veela Allure who instead of flirting with only one hero "flirted" with basically everyone before retiring to raise her daughter of uncertain paternity). Admittedly she wasn't very central (the majority of her scenes were in the last book) but still.
The way I always took the Penguin's master plan was that this is a dark take on the story of Moses. Penguin's parents also put him in a basket in the river, where he is found by others and raised as their child. Then, as an adult, he tries to murder the firstborn of Gotham, which was the final plague that broke the Pharaoh's resolve.
Doug keep on donating you are so hilarious that's why I like you so much is because you just can't make me stop laughing keep being awesome stay positive and stay healthy man
I understand Batman’s moral code, but I don’t care how skilled or disciplined he is, he most certainly has killed people without knowing it. Humans are incredibly fragile, you’re saying he never hit someone so hard he fell with the back of his head and died immediately? Especially considering he has the punching power of two professional boxers combined? No way. People trip, fall and die this way, Batman faces life and death situations in every fight, there is no scenario where he hasn’t killed people.
Obviously you're correct, but it's way more about the code itself. What many people don't get about Batman, is that he is pretty insane. And he's sooo close to becoming one of the crazies, he is constantly fighting. So when he starts to outright kill people in "serious" adaptations, it just diminishes the character. It's not like refusing to kill the Joker, is the morally right thing to do. But this code is the thin thread, on which Batman's sanity hinges.
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You gotta do The live Grinch Musical.... its soooooo bad
Polar Express
"let's watch that Tim burton Christmas movie"
"a nightmare before Christmas?"
"no the other one"
Ah yes, Sweeney Todd.
Look up the date it came out, the joke works more than you might think.
Edward Scissorhands ?
"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? That has candy in it."
Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's set at Jesus's birthday!!!!!!!
This....actually makes it even more fucked up
He tries to kill the children in Christmas Eve....
Its like Santa sending his helpers to kidnap children for deaths.......
Wow
@@wstine79 willy wonka was based on Santa Claus
Rewards charlie for good and the ompa loompas despite what sjws say in hindsight were not racist but actually based on Santa's elves
This might sound strange, but hear me out. In The Penguin funeral scene, I think we are meant to empathize with the penguins (plural, lowercase), not THE Penguin. All his life, The Penguin wanted to be accepted and loved despite his deformities. Time and time again, he fails to fit in with human society, either for his superficial ugliness, or his ugliness inside. The penguins however love him unconditionally, and don't begrudge his animalistic, savage nature, as animals themselves. The Penguin however, becomes lost forever chasing the affection he can never have, rather than embracing his true nature, his kin and his home. The penguins know the beasts need to stay with the other beasts, and lament the tragic soul who failed to learn life's greatest lesson.
This comment is underrated!
That's deep. I don't even meant that sarcastically or as a meme, that's legitimately a deep and thoughtful analysis that I'm 100% in support of.
yeah i thought that was always pretty obvious
Never thought of it that way. Makes total sense! In more than just an owner loving their pet -- he WAS an animal like them!
Plus, it totally fits with the movie's overarching theme, which is duality. All three main characters are caught between two identities and having a hard time coping with that fact. While Batman/Bruce's duality ultimately makes him a force for good, Penguin/Oswald's failure to reconcile his conflicting identities turns him evil.
Catwoman/Selina, who has to deal with the same type of inner conflict, which is highlighted through her relationship with Batman/Bruce, is also torn between good (Batman) and evil (Penguin). She's torn between both possible outcomes of being caught between two identities. In her case, we could say it's a duality within a duality.
*Batman opens the armory to discover that the Batsuit is pink*
"Alfred, that's cold..."
"It's revenge, sir... it's supposed to be cold."
Take all the thumbs-up.
*Mr. Freeze would like to know your location*
😱😱😱😱
It's supposed to be cold...
It's supposed to be cold...
It's supposed to be cold..
That is just too good!
The first born thing wasn’t truly random. Penguin was the first born but was rejected by his parents. So he wanted to get back at the other first borns by killing them
Yeah, it wasn’t that confusing even in the final version, but the brothers angle would have given it so much more context.
He wanted to get back at the other first borns? What does that even mean?
@@ahabduennschitz7670 He wanted to kill the first born children of all the rich people since he never had the life the children will have
@@ahabduennschitz7670 just some personal stuff. He’s a first born done wrong and now he wants to make sure other first borns suffer the same fate etc
@@ahabduennschitz7670 It's an anti-Moses angle with Penguin. Moses was cast into the river so his life would be _spared,_ Penguin was cast into the river with hopes he'd be _killed._ The Exodus story also lists the final plague as "Death Of The First Born" but in that story Moses merely announced it and gave him a lot of remorse over it whereas Penguin is _happily_ enacting the plague himself and eventually ups it to _all_ children of Gotham.
In Scheck's office, there is a picture of Christopher Walken and Arnold Schwarzenegger. So they set up Mr. Freeze in this universe.
Also: Sammy Davis jr, and Elvis Presley
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Not that far off actually. Akiva Goldman's OG script for Batman Forever was actually very dark and psychological (If anything, very ahead of its time). A lot of these ideas were in fact filmed, there was a 170 minute Assembly Cut with a lot of these ideas. They considered releasing this back in 2005, but chose not to. The Dennis O'Neil Comic Adaptation keeps a lot of those scenes. But in editing, the focus groups cut out almost all of that.
#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 Yeah, got to hate that noise.
thanks for telling about the hidden Easter egg
@Edward Lee Miller WB screwing things up even back then. Why am i not surprised
Christopher walken’s hair looks like a grenade went off in his face, wiped the soot off his face, put hair spray on and called it good 😂
Christopher walkens characters last name is shrek so I want to see this him re edited so it’s actually shrek and not just walken
@@Legendaryhumanbeing_27 It's actually spelled "Schreck", but you do you
@@monhunterz5430 ah yes, the proper German way
It also looks like he decided to keep using that hair style.
@@Legendaryhumanbeing_27 And then another version of Shrek where Walkin is edited in travelling with Fiona and Donkey xD "But this is..MY Swamp!'
the cops show up at Wayne Manor
Commissioner Gordon: "So, uh, we noticed that you have several very large bat signals that shine directly into your house whenever we activate the signal at HQ..."
Bruce: "I just like to stay informed when the Batman is called to action."
Gordon: "Seems legit..Have a good evening, Bruce."
Bruce: "...I..I can't believe that worked.."
Gordon, writing in his notes in the squad car: *Totally a sex thing*
This comment and the first reply to it are perfect.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bruce's batcave is his fanboy collection of Batman stuff.
What I love the most about this film is how Tim Burton really went out 100% with his love of German expressionism in the visuals and references, like the art-deco statues, angular black shadows, and naming a villain after Nosferatu. some of the shots could be taken straight from The Cabinet of Dr Caligari!
Yeah, that was some amazing world-building right there. It totally makes sense to use German expressionism as a reference point for a Detective Comics movie, too, for Batman's Gotham City belongs to the same country as Superman's city which is named after the German expressionist movie Metropolis.
I dunno, I thought Danny Devito pulled it off, as a kid I was both scared of penguin and ended up feeling bad for him.
When your parents throw you in a river and you end up being adopted by penguins, I'm guessing there WOULD be psychological issues. In that context, it works.
Doug said he DID pull it off
He's saying the problem is the writing
Same That penguin 🐧 ending was actually quite sad 😢
@@wesleywyndam-pryce4081
Carried by the only things that loved him
The penguins
Same here.
For me the thing about the penguin funeral goes back to a lot of animals' reputations for loving humans regardless of how horrible we may be in general or even horrible to them. I see the tenderness not in him, but in the penguins' unconditional/parental love for him. They don't see his ruthlessness, just someone they hold dear OR don't see his ruthlessness as reason to stop loving him; it's worse considering the possibility some of the penguins who raised him may still be alive and mourning their child.
And also made worse for knowing that when he trained them to carry explosives through the streets, some of them could have been badly hurt.
@@Perid0tStar Oh shoot, obviously with the exploding Gotham plan, yeah, but never thought of the training part. They were all so willing though. I wonder if there were others who didn't go and what happened to them? How well did the penguins understand how explosives work to still be willing to go? Or was there mind control involved? So much potential codependency... so much they would do for do for him...
Oswald Cobblepot
Carried to his watery grave by the only beings that cared about him
Penguins
@@gachalifetoonstudios1377 Damn, was that a roast?
@@moniquesalazar1678 not really if it's true
Plus if I die and a bunch of puppies dragged me to my grave then it'll be cute/horrifying
Fun Fact: Batman and Catwoman aren't wearing masks at the masquerade because they are already disguised as Bruce and Selina.
Only us Batfans got that
I’m surprised the critic didn’t point that out.
@@chadfalardeau5396 Both characters talk about being tired of wearing masks during that scene.
@@jessedellross3245 i'm just surprised when Penguin mentions he's gonna rid all first borns, Doug do the obvious Blazzing Saddles joke, "Too Jewish."
I'll take it even further than that:
All four main characters (Bruce, Selina, Schreck, and Penguin) appear in that scene, yet out of the four of them, Schreck, the so- called "Respected monster," is the only one wearing a mask.
Heavy symbolism there, as Schreck is the only one of them hiding his true nature (His greed and cruelty, hidden behind a "Mask" of superficial philanthropy).
"Remember those days when that would ruin a politicians career" haha so sad and so true, Doug.
#tooreal
I was conflicted between whether this referenced Nixon's Watergate, Clinton's affair or Trump's....yes, but I figure it's a full house.
This movie kind of acts like a strange nexus point for Penguin. A lot of the comics pre-this movie paint him as a forgotten son of Gotham royalty on the same level as the Waynes. But after this movie, he started being portrayed as someone with delusions of grandeur, thinking himself to be on the same level as the Waynes. Regardless, I see why people were lobbying for DeVito to reprise the role for the Pattinson movie being filmed right now. He encapsulates both mindsets to this very day.
So he's basically Frank Reynolds and I am totally here for it!!!!
I’m a die hard Batman fan. But the penguin was the one villain I always thought to be the most overrated. I never cared about him in any show, comic, or anything. But Penguin in Batman Returns was always my favorite version of him. I loved how sick and disgusting he was. And unlike most people I actually kinda did feel bad for the guy. Always was in my opinion the most underrated Batman movie villain. But just my opinion!
I think the idea was that the cobblepots were a fallen family, and Penguin was obsessed with getting his family name back to the level of high of society
that’s why he has an envy attitude towards the waynes.
@@mckenzie.latham91 kind of like the Dumas family from Gotham.
@@LyleStyle87 Funny enough; speaking of Gotham, the actor that played Penguin's dad in that show, Paul Reubens, also played Penguin dad's in this film.
It's fascinating that this movie has a bad rep in America, but is considered one of the best comic book movies ever in Europe.
Honestly, I always have a hard time understanding why American media caught on and continues to catch on in Europe.
And LatAm! My fav batman movie hands down
I did not know that.
Europeans have good standards, I'm American and even I agree.
Setting aside v for vendetta and. Watchmen, which are meant to be dark first
Can you really honestly think of any other comic book movie that is this gothic and dark and honestly as dark and tragic as Frankenstein drawing from Moses and a psychotic nervous breakdown, child killing
All in a SUPER HERO MOVIE...........
Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle Pfeiffer meltdown scene is nothing compared to Nostalgia Critic's meltdown after food fight, that had me in tears!
I just noticed that's what he was referencing in that review. He was imitating Michelle Pfeiffer lol. 😅 😅
@@CLDJ227 It was right around when Selina tossed the carton of milk at the answering machine that I realized "So this is where the Critic's freakout in Foodfight came from"
The reference was obvious to those of us who grew up on Batman Returns. He certainly put his back into it, though. Credit where it’s due.
Or his breakdown during the haunting
Or Pearl Harbor.
"I'll murder you momentarily...but first...I need a cool drink of iced water!" Still remains as one of my favourite movie villain's last words.
I like the joke's better.
"Shit!"
The first half of this scene was deleted. Penguin looks at Bruce Wayne's face and says, "Without that mask, you are drop-dead handsome!" Then he grabs and umbrella and tries to shoot him with it. "So DROP DEAD!" That's when the cute umbrella pops open, revealing that Penguin grabbed the wrong one.
"...how many falls has she survived??"
You realize Catwoman has nine lives, right? It's like... a thing in the movie.
I always thought it was kept fairly ambiguous. Did she really supernaturally have nine lives, or was it all just in her head and she just got extremely lucky?
@@LordMalice6d9 that's a good question... sort of a twisted placebo effect. Either way she survives eight potentially fatal injuries and even counts down as she is repeatedly shot. I think it's in her head
@@LordMalice6d9 Near the end of the film Selina does mention she had nine lives but she was down to six (due to penguin dropping her into the greenhouse, batman knocking her off the building, and I guess when she first fell because max pushed her off the building it counts as a life lost) before Max shoots her four times leaving her with two left, and then she grabbed the power cable and used another life to fry Max. By the end she only has one life left.
@@omegamysterio3701 the first one wouldn't count as she lost her one life before gaining the nine from the cata who revived her
@@tanandalynch9441 Yes but she clearly says to Max "You killed me, the penguin killed me, Batman killed me! That's three lives down you think you got enough in there to finish me off?" I personally wasn't sure if it counts but her word is what we got so likely it does count, I imagine the resurrection she got cost a life I guess because max doesn't kill her again until he starts blowing holes in her with the gun.
"how many falls has she survived?"
technically none since those falls take off one of her nine lives I believe
Yep, she technically died 8 times, not counting her first fall before transforming. If Shreck had shot her one more time, Catwoman would have remained dead forever.
Soooo.... how DID she get the "nine lives" power in this movie anyway??? The same way as Halle Berry Catwoman??
@@Eccegato More or less, except chewed on by cats instead of burped on
This movie is a fairy tale, and it's best left ambiguous whether her nine lives is actually supernatural or a poetic way of describing her uncommon luck.
That’s kinda left open to interpretation
Anyone else notice they gave Killer Croc's back story to Penguin? Seriously, abandoned by his parents, grew up in the sewers, joined a circus, and he bites people. So this is just Danny Devito playing Killer Croc.
But with penguins
@@Jeffrey18O yeah, because Burton had to make it weirder
Killer Croc would have fit right in as a villain in the movie.
....then what's Penguin's original backstory?
@@jinhunterslay1638 Penguin has a physical deformity that makes him look more bird-like, but that didn't really affect him all that much. He's mostly just a high-class gangster, with trick umbrellas to make him more cartoony.
“Who decorates an antenna?”
Massively underrated line.
Fun fact: Batman cannot turn his neck in this costume so he has to physically spin around if something is just out of his line of sight. Hilarious to watch for. Merry Christmas!!!
They even referenced that in the Dark Knight
I always wondered back then why they never went with a Adam West or helmet type mask.. Cowl thing w/e
Apparently the batsuit for Tim Burtons's Batman 3 would have had a movable neck, but we all know what happened there. Look up "Batman Continues", there are some interesting preproduction leaks.
@@willarrington3188 It was meant to make batman move on an unnatural way
The recipe for crime fighting success? Limited field of view!
Here are some Fun fact
1. Arnold Schwarzenegger appears in cameo in Max's office you can see him in a photo with alongside Max. Foreshadowing Schwarzenegger actually joining Batman franchise years later surprised director didn't retcon it saying Victor Fries knew Max.
2. Paul Reubens reprised the role of Penguin's father in Gotham tv series
3. Selina Kyle quotes the Joker
4. Burgress Meredith was suppose to play Tucker Cobblepot but due to his poor health he rejected the offer
5. Shreck was suppose to appear in Batman the Animated Series at the studios behest but at the last minute it was decided to reimagine the character as Roland Daggett
Just out of curiosity what was the Joker quote Selina said
@@cash2346 "it's gonna be a hot time in the cold town tonight" as selina and bruce look at the x mas decorations being put up
Just to add to point 3, Selina and the Joker both quoted a real life song lyric. That song is even listed in the film credits specifically for that reason. It's not a case of Selina somehow knowing something that the Joker said despite that being impossible.
@@RoboBeastWarrior lot of people didn't catch her quiting joker despite her not being in the same room as him but it was a nice reference to the clown prince of crime
This movie is one of the reasons why Batman forever and Batman & robin was too kid friendly. Too much of ANYTHING is bad for everyone.
Shonuff...
yeah.
It must remain perfectly balanced as all things should.
I like the dark tone for Batman movies
No. It's Warner Bros fault for listening more to McDonalds and Hasbro than to Burton. Only WB is to blame for what the franchise became.
You really DON'T have to choose between whether the character is likeable or not based on their sympathetic moments. The only thing that matters is that the character believes themselves to be in the right, and thus justifying their actions. Saying you CAN'T have a character like Penguin have moments where they feel pain and reflect on their dark past, is asking for REALLY 2-dimensional villains. Penguin's motivations come from a seething hatred and sadness that comes from his abandonment issues. It's not meant to be silly or villainous, it's meant to be sad... Just because his way of processing is that he becomes a hate filled murderer doesn't mean he doesn't deserve times to reflect on his backstory as a way of showing the audience how he's been affected.
I was 8 and my brother was 6 when our mother brought us to see this movie in theater. She was appalled by how dark and scary it was, while we were both ecstatic about it. It felt like we just saw something forbidden. It remains one of my fondest childhood memories to this day.
That’s awesome 😆👍🏻
Danny Devito didn’t deserve the Razzie nomination he got for this movie.
It was perfect casting
Yes it was.
Razzie nomination? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
@@colinmackinnon696 I’m dead serious
He was nominated for a Razzie? Thats as stupid as the Shining being nominated one!
Fun fact / reminder: The mental breakdown Selena has after resurrection is referenced in NC's Food Fight review.
Yeah i noticed it when i first saw it
Yeah, we know. It was brilliant
Link?
@@ChristopherFreeman0032 Just search Nostalgia Critic - Foodfight. Your bound to find it at the top of the results
Yeah, since I‘ve never seen „Batman Returns“ I only noticed this right now.
Gonna be honest first time I saw this movie when it got the Penguin death and the penguins started coming out and walking toward him I literally said, "Oh God they are going to eat his corpse!" Which honestly I think could have easily been in this movie
OMG LMAO!!!!!!
I’m glad you decided to be honest about this.
Not gonna lie, I was expecting you to lie, but now I realize you were being straight with us, which is cool and surprising.
@@darkstar4494 what
The wholesome ending kinda tugged my heart strings a little
Not only because I’ve had the worst of 2020 with losing my mother to cancer and finding her dead, not being able to properly say goodbye with a funeral.
And being disabled with autism living on $800 a month it’s kind of a really hard thing not to end your life over it’s been pretty rough and your videos do put a spark and some happiness this year.
Hope you have a happy Christmas Doug thanks for the laughs
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Congratulations on 3k Subs, stay strong man, merry Christmas! 🎄
So sorry for your loss. I pray you have some comfort during these hard times. Just know that she's in the Lord's hands and that you're being watched over.
Definitely hoping your 2021 is BETTER than this one! Hope on!
Praying to God he makes it easy for you! Stay strong brother
That ending was really sweet. Especially Barney's smile, he always seemed like a very Santa-ish person. Hope he makes it through the pandemic unaffected and healthy. Merry Christmas
Thanks for watching!! Merry Christmas!!
Christopher Walken is humanity’s Christmas present.
Na it is Morgan Freeman
"Santa Clause, afraid not. I'm just Christopher Walken with funny hair. So sue me, because that's a thousand times better."
Holy shit I just realised, the penguin in this is similar to Moses and acts like Herod!!!!!!!!!!!!
And it's set at Jesus's birthday!!!!!!!
This....actually makes it even more fucked up
He tries to kill the children in Christmas Eve....
Its like Santa sending his helpers to kidnap children for deaths.......
Wow
@@maxchombo7757 can't it be both?
I would not mind getting defenestrated by mr. Walken
I’d like to think in this universe, Killer Croc is a gentlemanly crime boss gangster who owns a nightclub, seeing as Penguin is a circus freak cannibal pervert monster who lives in the sewers.
Ya know, I'd be down to see that if they had actually made the Batman '89 comic they had planned.
He would definitely have a Louisiana accent.
@@jacksonhopp2003 a southern gentleman….yeah I’m down for that
That's hilarious.
I've always loved this film. I'm surprised it has mixed reviews.
Yah, Batman Returns is actually my favorite batman movie . . . . . Most people I talk to really like it
It's weird as fuck.... prolly my least favorite Batman movie after Batman & Robin.
I don't mind things being a little over-the-top, but there are limits, and Tim Burton says "fuck the limits".
Michelle Pfeifer will always be sexy though. Better Catwoman than Anne Hathaway.
half of the reviews are from butthurt parents who said the movie was too dark for kids i blame them for batman and robin i kind of like batman forever mostly because of Jim carrey
In Australia It is considered a really good Batman 🦇 movie 🎥🍿
Yeah, I’ve always considered it a really good one, maybe even better than the first Tim Burton Batman
Fun fact: This was only the FIRST time Paul Rubens played The Penguin's father. He also played the father to Robin Lord Taylor's version of The Penguin, though not a Cobblepot, Penguin getting his surname from his mother (and anglicized from Kapelput), nonetheless he played his father, Elijah Van Dahl.
Wow thats the same dude? Nice find
This should have more likes.
also fun fact, the role of Penguin's father was supposed to be played by the OG Penguin, Burgess Meredith
@Josh Levan You could technically add Buffy the Vampire Slayer, he was a villain in that.
And his mom was the actress who was Simone in Pee Wee’s Big Adventure 🧐
“How many times does she survive a fall?” Someone didn’t get the whole nine lives thing. Or the fact that she hated her life as timid Selina, so she wasn’t being a hypocrite to the woman she saved about needing Batman to save her. That’s the whole point of the dialogue man.
If I had a dollar for every time the NC doesn’t get something
She literally has nine lives? Like a video game character? That’s silly.
@@RocketMan2 it’s a Tim burton Batman film, it’s supposed to be silly
@@griffinfrench NC always just skims over movies unfortunately.
Yeah it was a good review overall, but I didn't agree with some of his points. Her mental breakdown being "funny"...wtf? I find more depth than humor out of that. And yeah, he completely missed the point of why she said that to the woman -- because she was once a helpless victim; i.e., women empowerment. But I guess his "hypocrite" remark was more of him being funny on purpose, so I don't want to take it overly serious.
3:20 fun fact, Tim Burton was actually reluctant to cast Walken because the actor scared him.
How is walker scary? Plankton from Spongebob is scarier than Waken.
@@orangeslash1667 It's not who I think is scary. It's who Burton thinks is scary. I'm just the messenger.
I love the fact the guy who directed Sweeney Todd, Batman Returns, And Sleepy Hollow, is scared of Walken.
Edit: Walken is in Sleepy Hollow, shouldn’t it be titled The Walken Dead? 😄
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Ok that was pretty funny.
29:05 “there is a kind of joy in how miserable it all is.” Sounds like something the Joker would say.
I mean, that is one of the reasons he is such a beloved villian. In a sick twisted way he is kinda relatable that it kinda hurts to admit it.
This is my personal favorite Batman movie out of the two Burton films and Schoemachur films. I like the direction this movie took with the villains and catwoman acting like the antihero that she is. Some people think that this movie hasn't aged well, and to an extent is right but I feel that the story and the direction they take the characters helps to make this a favorite of the Batman films for me.
This Was My Favorite Movie 🍿🎥 as a really Young Child when I was 5 I had a 6 year old Girlfriend and We would pretend to be Catwoman and Batman from This Movie. lots of nostalgia
I believe I've only ever seen this movie ONCE in my whole life!...But it left a damn impact! Personally, I don't think I was phased by Batman killing because 1) I never read the comics, only became a fan from the first movie and 2) they were just so over the top that it never looked real to me; even as a child. I grew up on Tom & Jerry, I figured they were just really big boo-boos. And you are so right, of all the Batman characters I've seen, Christopher Walken I never believed was anyone but himself!
17:09 Took the words right out of my mouth...
The Catwoman breakdown scene in her apartment scarred me as a kid (so did the kidnapping of the kids). Took me years to watch this movie again, though I appreciate what Tim Burton was going for now.
There was that previous scene in her apartment, where it shows how miserable her life is. That’s a pretty mature scene, that shouldn’t really be in a kids movie: a beautiful hard working woman, tired, returns to her empty apartment, with nobody expecting her, but a cat, a message from her annoying mom, an advertisement for a perfume that any man will love and, which reminds her that she “of course” doesn’t have one. No kid would get that, but I like that scene. Now most character development we get is: “This is Jake, he loves doughnuts”.
Considering what Selina has been through, I say this meltdown was justified.
Really, i found it slighty comical.
*"I would've paid good money to see Batman punch penguins."*
You too?
Screw that, I wanna see him punch porgs.
@@cheerfulsatanist More like punch that, I wanna see him screw porgs.
Slowly raises hand
That alone would of been enough for me to pay to see it..
Penguins vs Porgs: Dawn Of Burton
“She goes from crying to laughing”
“You’re crazy”
Idk, that how I’ve been working through my 2020.
Maybe she’s ahead of the curve?
I've laughed and cried simultaneously as far back as the late 90s. Did it so hard I passed out at the kitchen table and scared the shit out of my sister once. "Mood stabilizers" my fat ass.
@@crazysilly2914 It had some good things, yes.
Such as the Chiefs, Dodgers (both ending long droughts), and Lakers winning.
I still love how Andrew impersonates the Walken accent and manner of speaking so it’s even more believable that his character is that guys son.. it’s just perfect really. Honestly probably the best part of the movie.
28:30 honestly one of my favorite episodes of that show. He came so close to being reformed..... People mocked him, but he stood strong.... But the betrayal of someone he thought he could trust sent him spiralling back into his egotistic insanity....
This movie was propably the start of every latex catsuit fetishes.
correct
No but the character does..... Yes speaking for myself.... Erm happy TMI for you ^^
Agree
It was definitely one of my earliest boners, so I'm going to guess that fetish was earned.
congratulations your a prophet
Penguin: "You're just jealous because I'm a genuine freak and you have to wear a mask!"
Batman: "You might be right"
That's such a perfect line directed at Batman
The actress who played Penguin's mom is Diane Salinger, she was the Waitress Pee-Wee met and bonded with in Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. Simone.
So...things with Paris dude didn't work out?
Seriously, that'd be so weird if this was on the same universe!
thanks didn't know
And the saga of Danny Devito wearing top hats in Tim Burton movies continues
“It looks like you wear black leather to cope, too!” Hey now, stop delving into my secret life you pervs! 😂
50 shades detected
WTF?!
Still got 80% on Rotten Tomatoes
“Director Tim Burton's dark, brooding atmosphere, Michael Keaton's work as the tormented hero, and the flawless casting of Danny DeVito as The Penguin and Christopher Walken make the sequel better than the first.”
Still was one of the highest grossing films at the time
I was very surprised many took issue with its dark tone and McDonald’s afraid of marketing the toys
I grew up in the 90s and didn’t notice people’s concern about Batman killing until Batman v Superman, people would have a heart attack over that more than anything
That’s pretty cool though about Michelle Pfeiffer finding her whip from her filming days
Every actor should have one keepsake
Shame Burton couldn’t make more movies as well as Schulmacher then again we wouldn’t have gotten Nolan’s take on the material
Props to Doug of adding the heartfelt segment at the end putting channel awesomes cast’s pictures together given everything we’ve gone through this year
Let’s all remain strong and hopeful
I think it was because the Animated series came after this film and basically adopted the “batman will not kill” thing and cemented it in the fandom.
@@mckenzie.latham91 I actually agree with that Batman shouldn't kill , though I think that Batman can kill, depending on what adaptation both the director & writer wants as visual medium is different from comic style of storytelling; this batman is what Burton wanted and he got it.
Punctuation. Use it.
I still would've paid money to see tim Burton's version of batman forever and batman and robin
@@gachalifetoonstudios1377 it is too bad we didn’t see more. If it wasn’t for Schulmacher (May he Rest In Peace) we wouldn’t have Nolan’s movies
I suppose one could say that the "first born son" thing still makes a kind of sense if you see The Penguin as a Moses analogue- complete with being cast into the river as an infant. Oh, and DeVito apparently also ate a significant piece of whole raw fish for the part, which isn't quite as remarkable as the Pfeiffer bird thing, but still suggests a certain level of commitment.
Rather an anti Moses. Moses was sent down the Nile to save his life while Penguin's parents tried to drown him. And beasts adopt him not a caring princess. And besides Moses and the firstborn dying in the plague there may be some king Herod killing the infants inside as well. It's the ugly part of the Nativity...
the main difference between Catwoman and Penguin is he eats, while Catwoman spares. Infant Penguin kills the cat, while Catwoman did not eat the bird.
I always interpreted it as an act of revenge by proxy. Oswald was a firstborn and his parents tossed him away, but he can't get revenge on them because they're already dead. Therefore, since his own parents tried to kill him, he will now kill all of the firstborns in the city.
Actually (And it's online now) Devito talks about this and he loved it. He said he loves Sushi, but this was really fresh, and he loved it.
This is easily one of the best Batman movies. Then again I prefer the Tim Burton Batmans over Christopher Nolan, they're not only well acted, the atmosphere is just amazing.
Christopher Nolan wasn't bad but they didn't have the same comic book feel as the Burtonverse movies. Nolan's was more like if you took a serial killer out of jail and put him in a Batman costume.
@@not.supermario “serial killer out of jail and put him in a batman costume” nope you’re thinking of ben affleck lol
Yes!!!!
@@not.supermarioJohn Connor from Terminator Salvation as Batman.
Tim Burton: "We have Danny Devito dressed as a literal penguin, there's no way we can up the weird factor."
Christopher Walken: "Hold my Beer"
And here we goooooooooooooo...another Nostalgia Critic Christmas Special!!
It's been a hell of a year everyone, just wanted to say:
*Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals.*
Keep the change, ya filthy animals.
(Shoots gun one more time) "And a Happy New Year!"
You've been smoochin' with my brother
It's just been a glorified flu season. Meh, expected worse.
And a happy new year of dround children
The one thing I cant forget about this movie?
The fact that they used an orchestrated version of "Super Freak" during the Selina/Bruce dance scene.
Nice catch!
U can’t touch this! Now stop! Hammer time!
Muzak's a helluva drug.
I feel she is still the best live action cat women I've seen.
Yeah! I think she's good on to reprise her role in the Flashpoint movie.
Even tho Anne Hathaway was great to, I agree that Pfeiffer's catwoman has more personality and a more interesting backstory.
What about Eartha Kit's? Hers was pretty fun to watch.
However, I will admit this Catwoman is definitely S tier! The emotions brought to her performance were just top notch 👌🏾🔥
Hoping to God that Zoe Kravitz brings something great to the table when the new batman comes out🙏🏾
Fuck yes!
Factz i love Michelle Phiefer
"How dare you!?! I'm a woman!"
Brave and The Bold Batman: "The hammer of Justice is unissex!"
A tear for the attacks on chivalry in the last 20 years
@@crazysilly2914 They just stopped hiding it is all
Batman has said something similar to that a few times. Like, "I don't hit women. Criminals on the other hand..."
@@Here_is_Waldo and i agree with that logic, hitting people in general is wrong, self defense isn't.
Batman, is a true hero of gender equality. He's the hero we need in these dark, & troubling times of the society we created, & are now forced to live in.
Dark, Gothic, dramatic, depressing in numerous scenes, funny when comedy is needed. Good action. FRIGHTENING when seeing it at a young age, and memorable to this day. Quotable, solid character introductions and development. Also, it's like the story of baby moses, how baby penguin was dropped in the river and taken to new home ( just writing that, The Critic said the Prince of Egypt) WOA.Merry Christmas ya'll. (extra coment) THIS IS THE STORY of Moses, original Max and Penguin were bros, the lady saying he ( Penguin) was like a frog turning to a prince. ( frog, reference to 1 of the plagues) kidnapping ( and going to kill) the 1st born males of Gotham, just like the angel of death... Yep, Batman Returns is The Prince of Egypt, Ten Commandments, Moses. damn
Great Epic!
It’s more goofy than scary lol
This may be my favorite Batman Movie. Not because it is Batman, but because it is a Burton film through and through.
I can’t get over the fact that Schreck offers Penguin “Unlimited Poontang.”
Penguin whenever I hear him say things sexually, he comes off like a mutant pervert lusting for that "Pootang". In 1992, you can get away with this but in 2020-21 onwards it would be seen as "sexual harassment".
I still enjoy Batman Returns but watching it now almost 30 years later it is very, very fucked up but know what? It's awesome!
Everyone talks about how bad these movies were, but I grew up watching these and never really had a problem with them. I don't know if I have nostalgia bias, but these are defiantly some of my favorite films
Nah, this movie is great.
It's not a "Batman-movie", but it is still a really good movie.
You just have to accept that it is a very loose adaptation.
Same here.
It's been a while since I've seen this film, but I could've sworn Shrek said "Bruce Wayne? Why are you dressed as Batman?" or something like that.
He did
He did at the ending
He did. I laughed
and then Selina rightly called him a moron for not being able to add 1 + 0.
They can’t exactly show the film for every line in their review, or they’ll be demonetized.
Holy shit, I can now see how goddamn downright poetic it was to cast Paul Reubens as Penguin’s father in Gotham.
I have a disagreement with Penguin's characterization.
We the audience are shown how tragic his life has been, but only because we need that context for how he manages to get through the story the way that he does. We also see what a complete monster of a person he is simply BECAUSE we're the audience. It makes us root for Batman all the more.
In-universe, the fact that his monstrous tendencies are so kept in check and under wraps while they push his tragedy as hard as they do is only done for the people's perspective. It's a plot device, used to move the story forward.
We the audience still know he's a total dickbag, but we're given all this fluff about him being sympathetic because the rest of the world in the movie is being fed it in order to get them on his side, not to get the audience on his side.
My thoughts exactly!! If he was just a complete momster we'd just have a Killer Croc side villain.
@@Jacqthepossposs Yeah; real tragic. Shame that basically every adaptation portrays Killer Croc as little more than a brute. I get it; he's not the brightest bulb in Batman's Rouges Gallery, but could we maybe see more to him on a character level than just a thug?
I'm honestly surprised that, as far as I know, the show _Gotham_ never involved Killer Croc. That could've been a perfect opportunity for showing audiences his origins.
@@Jacqthepossposs I see. I probably should mention that I don't read comics.
@@Jacqthepossposs Because I'm not counting comics as "adaptations"; I'm counting them as source material. I thought that was clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I don’t know why people don’t remember or rather forget this movie it’s freakin awesome and great sequel to batman and probably the only time we get good Batman movie for a long time
There would another great batman film one year later with Batman Mask of the Phantasm!
live-action*
Dark knight, Batman begins?
@@filmaticpictures9693 that doesn’t happen until the early 2000
Interestingly, Tim Burton didn’t want to do another Batman cause of how much the first Batman became a “studio” Batman. He only came back after the studio agreed to give him carte blanche.
And WB got what they wanted. At the time, they felt nobody could make a Batman movie besides Burton that even when he left to do Edward Scissorshands, they decided to wait until he'd make his decision. Meanwhile, Burton was done with Batman. He said he was disappointed on the film, feeling it was a bit dull and the aforementioned studio notes like Prince, Batman's Nike shoes, a ninja goon, and a Phantom of the Opera inspired climax in the church. And suddenly having all this big attention from fans and non fans had to be scary for a once Disney animator. He questioned "As long as Batman was on the poster, would it even matter who directed the damn thing?"
According to the screenwriter, Wesley Strick, he revealed Burton told him he was sick and tired of Superhero Movies and compared them to Chinese water torture and he asked him, if that's how he felt then why is he doing the sequel and Burton revealed he learned a lot since then and wanted to improve himself and make the mistakes he felt he made in the first film. Which also meant redesigning Gotham, the batsuit, the sets, and gadgets with new designers. It became a point that Burton jokingly wanted to call it "Batman" again instead of a sequel. So much so, you don't really need to watch the first movie to see this one. You can tell this was much closer to what he imagined a Batman movie. He also wrote a treatment back in 1985 that had many elements from Returns, Joker wanting to be mayor from a shady businessman (Rupert Thorne), a wintery Gotham, similarly described locations like the City Hall and the giant tree, or Joker's headquarters having spiral stairs like Penguin's, and even Batman gliding in the sky.
But after the movie came out, nobody knew how to feel about it. Kids and parents didn't know how to feel with this dystopian fairytale style Batman with arthouse levels of weirdness like Penguin pucking black slime, cats chewing Selina's fingers while her eyes roll back, or Penguin biting a guy's nose off. And an ending that's a bit downbeat with everyone dead and Bruce left alone on Christmas. (Hurray?) But it was something WB wanted all along. But this was before reboots were a thing and it was too early to end the series. But they were left clueless for a third movie and weren't sure if they wanted Burton to come back and only had one meeting with him to talk him out of the project before Burton caught on what they were trying to say and he left. They were exactly how Burton felt from the beginning before he directed a second movie; "As long as Batman was on the poster, would it even matter who directed the damn thing?"
This was SUCH a good Christmas movie for this year. I'd even go so far as to say, the best choice.
Whenever I see Penguin’s funeral scene and the ending with Catwoman’s cat I guess adopted by Bruce always make me sad and sometimes cry
I like penguin's funeral
Funerals are attened by friends and family
But he has no friends (the circus crew are more like henchmen) and his human family is dead (plus they tried to drown him as a child)
So the only ones who truly cared about oswald was the penguins
Creator's Favorite Episode: Tim Burton has mentioned in several interviews that he had a much more funnier time making the sequel and he also considers it better and more enjoyable than the previous film, which he said was good but felt “boring at times”.
Probably because the Waner Bros executives were involved in the production with the frist one, since that movie mad money like no tomorrow back in the day. They let Tim have free range on creativity in the sequel.
I was seven when this movie came out: old enough to be the perfect “Batman demographic”, but young enough to be the “won’t somebody think of the children” mindset that the world was afraid would be corrupted by this movie.
I can tell you, in the entire flick, only three scenes freaked me out:
1.) The mugger getting his face sliced by Catwoman.
2.) The “blood gushing from the nose” scene.
3.) The Penguin’s funeral.
That last part didn’t corrupt me, by the way. I just felt bad for the penguins. Poor lil’ fellas...
Same, I was sad because of the penguins and the sad music, not much because of the Penguin himself. Those penguins technically raised him (or, well, for a while before he was supposedly found and raised at the circus) so it's kinda like Tarzan's ape family mourning him if he ever died.
The 1st 2 were the same for me, PLUS Schreck's corpse at the end
That weird woman saying "He's like a frog that became a prince", the way she says it always reminds me of a musical; like how they say a phrase and then begin singing about it. I expected all the extras around her w/ newspapers to start singing a song about Penguin turning into a good guy or something.
I need this musical
The whole sequence of lines reminds me of that. With the winter/Christmas setting, the much cleaner look of Gotham (vs. the original) and the goody-goody quality of the people, it always seemed like Burton was giving the city something of a Frank Capra vibe, which makes the Penguin look even more grotesque.
@@matthintz9468 I think it was a way of illustrating how Gotham has improved because of Batman's presence, but underneath they all still have a dark side, because crime never really goes away completely.
Thing about the batman/catwoman relationship note, she's become more of an anti-hero, and the two have actually been canonically romantically linked from time to time since this movie dropped
Or even have their daughter Helena
yeah.
Before. Before 1985 there were at least Two Earths in the Comics Earth 1 and Earth 2. Earth 2 was the Earth launched back in 1938 with Superman, Batman etc. On Earth 2 Batman was older married to Selina Kyle with their teenaged daughter Helena Wayne aka The Huntress. After Crisis in 1985 Helena was reintroduced on Earth Prime as Helena Bertinelli The Huntress
@@MrJackfaire I knew about the multiple earths, but forgot about the Batman in it. Thanks for the catch! Seems it hit the mainstream after this iteration, as far as I can tell
I will always ship Batman with Catwoman! No other person connects and understands Bruce like she can
Wait, why did they remove the plot about Penguin and Shreck being brothers? That would have fixed so many of the problems. Penguin wants revenge for his parents favoring Shreck and trying to kill him, and Catwoman teams up with him because Shreck tried to kill her. There, that connects so much without feeling forced.
The real Question is why would the people allow the Penguin to run for Mayor. He bite a guys nose??????
I love how the nosebleed scene never gets brought up afterwards or ever again. #biglippedaligatormoment
22:43 I don’t know. It makes for cartoons,but it’s a movie. But if they throw trash like Papers,glass bottles,banana peels make sense or rocks it would’ve make sense. I know,the movie directors messed that up and don’t care for Logic.
13:52
Lol, I still have a McDonald's promo mug for Batman Forever.
Same! 😂
I recently found an old hot wheels version of the Bat "missile" or whatever they called it.
he missed the best line of the film "you're just jealous that I'm a genuine freak, and you have ot wear a mask"
"LET HIM FIGHT THE CLOWNS!!!!" Did the Critic get possessed by Chester A. Bum with that sentence?
This is honestly one of my top favorite Batman movies
Agree, Ruby. Agree.
My favourite Tim Burton movie and 2nd favourite Batman movie after “The Dark Knight “
I personally love the relationship Bruce and Selena have. The movie shows how crazy and similar they are. I love the game they have, pretending they don't know their secret identity.
We are definitely supposed to feel sympathetic towards the Penguin, especially in the beginning when as a baby he’s thrown off the bridge by his parents (antithesis of Bruce Wayne’s parents being murdered) and then feel conflicted when he turns full monster, just like the character himself is struggling with throughout the movie
I see this version of the Penguin as similar to the Phantom of the Opera, someone who could have had a normal life of his deformity didn't leave him shunned by everyone, even his family, thus turning him into the monster they saw him as, a shirt of self-fulfilling prophecy it you will. It makes him a very tragic villain, hence the depressing music over much of his scenes.
People in these movies either know Bruce is Batman or think he’s trying to kill Batman
Every time that they find out that the Batcave is underneath stately Wayne Manor, they automatically think that means that Bruce Wayne is Batman. You know, people, Batman could be renting that cave from Bruce. They went to the same college.
@@LadyOnikara Lego Batman with Joker thinking Batman and Bruce Wayne are roomates,best. joke. ever.
Holy crap. I just realized that Paul Reubens played Penguin's dad twice!
I still love this movie to this day. Selina Kyles break down was very memorable, and the bitter tragic relationship between her and Bruce felt genuine and more 3 dimensional, like she wasn't just a new bland love interest. Also it's stylish as hell and the soundtrack gives me chills.
Besides all its weirdness, Batman Returns, because of doing what it does in terms of its characters, is much more relatable than most recent comic book movies.
(I'll give Logan, Shazam and Wonder Woman an honorary mention here, though.)
Batman Returns' world-building, however, is insanely good and what it still excells in to date: Gotham fuckin' City, home of the freaks! None of the recent live action comic book movies came even close.
(Although I will include honorary mentions of Gotham City's depiction in Todd Phillips cinematic drama Joker, of the brilliant animation movie Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse with its endearing homage to the comic books aesthetic, and of the visually fine but otherwise bland Aquaman live action feature film.)
And then Tim Burton helped with the Beetlejuice cartoon.
Years later: Tim Burton creates crappy or okay movies.
Good movies of Tim: We’re the best, awesome, okay, and other positive words
Bad movies of Tim: We’re crappy and all of the negative words.
Beetlejuice fandom: We have a Broadway show, cartoon and movie.
Other Tim Burton fandoms: We’re still okay, but not as popular as that guy. ‘Points at Beetlejuice.’
Nightmare Befote Christmas: *Are you sure about that*
Corpse Bride gang where you at
Edward scissorhands
Or Superman lives
I’m sorry guys. It’s just a little joke, I like the other Tim Burton fandoms too. It’s just, I like the idea of Beetlejuice. A small story about the dead. A “small” story.
“It’s fishy shwash, sir.”
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“It’s supposed to be cold.”
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It’s supposed to be cold.”
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“It’s supposed-.”
Vichyssoise?
Charlie Sketchman I got to this comment right as it was happening in the video
"....dooooouche....."
I think of the Drake & Josh episode "Paging Dr. Drake" when I hear that name lol
I always thought that he said borscht
Holy crap, that doordash ad was next level special. I simultaneously appreciate the classic 'You like me!' line whilst despairing that anyone born after 1995 is unlikely to understand or appreciate it.
About the end: It’s a shame that Channel Awesome couldn’t really do the Christmas pic together in one room due to the COVID pandemic, but at least they did what they could to make it happen. I hope that one day, in the new year, they are all allowed to return to their headquarters. 2020 has been a depressing year.
MERRY CHRISTMAS CHANNEL AWESOME... 🎅🏻🎄☃️❤️
We hope so too! Merry Christmas!!
@@ChannelAwesome Merry Christmas! Thanks for getting us through the year!
Just out of curiosity who's the guy between Jim Jaroz and Barney Walker? Because I think remember seeing him at the Nutcracker 3D review but also the end of it when everyone watches to the ending of the review of The Christmas Tree with both of Doug's parents with him
@@GBmovieluv Malcolm Ray.
@@ChrisNeufeldMusic Huh? Malcolm is on the left next to Rob Walker and Brad Jones. I'm talking about the guy on the right in between Barney Walker and Jim Jaroz
The Doordash ad should’ve ended this way.
Doug: Goes to door
Wilkins: Care for a cup of Wilkins Coffee?
Doug: indistinctly yells in disgust
*gunshot*
Wilkins: Things just seem to happen to people who don’t drink Wilkins.
I like it.
@@ItWILLbeWONDERFUL_THERE Wilkins is still on the run, my friend.
22:00 "Maybe the OTHER Birdman who fights off Spider-Man but is ALSO Batman!!"
lol @ 26:30. Great review Doug. I loved this movie as a kid and still do and I always found it weird Keaton played the McDonald's founder as well. Brava.
For a random piece of trivia: when reading the "Please Don't Tell My Parents I'm A Supervillain" series, I was visualizing Michelle Pfeiffer as Claire's mom, Misty Lutra aka the Minx (basically a Catwoman analog with something akin to Veela Allure who instead of flirting with only one hero "flirted" with basically everyone before retiring to raise her daughter of uncertain paternity). Admittedly she wasn't very central (the majority of her scenes were in the last book) but still.
Ok but that ending picture actually made me feel like emotions or something
Merry Christmas!!
The way I always took the Penguin's master plan was that this is a dark take on the story of Moses. Penguin's parents also put him in a basket in the river, where he is found by others and raised as their child. Then, as an adult, he tries to murder the firstborn of Gotham, which was the final plague that broke the Pharaoh's resolve.
11:03 It’s not this way in every adaptation, but at least in BTAS it’s suggested that his “Batman Voice” actually is his real voice
I’m surprised Walken didn’t use that factory to crush a wooden model of country bear hall.
"OH NO, COUNTRY BEAR HALL HAS BEEN CRUSHED."
@@andywap3 "Do you like the sound of crunching wood. I do."
Doug keep on donating you are so hilarious that's why I like you so much is because you just can't make me stop laughing keep being awesome stay positive and stay healthy man
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Did you know this thing called punctuation exists? Pretty cool! Right?
Same here, his reviews are always hilarious.
@@aroccoification What's wrong?
@@emeraldcrusade5016 I cant see my forehead...
I understand Batman’s moral code, but I don’t care how skilled or disciplined he is, he most certainly has killed people without knowing it. Humans are incredibly fragile, you’re saying he never hit someone so hard he fell with the back of his head and died immediately? Especially considering he has the punching power of two professional boxers combined? No way. People trip, fall and die this way, Batman faces life and death situations in every fight, there is no scenario where he hasn’t killed people.
That's an interesting point.
“So you don’t kill but you’re fine with traumatic brain injuries”
- Robin in Injustice 2
Obviously you're correct, but it's way more about the code itself.
What many people don't get about Batman, is that he is pretty insane.
And he's sooo close to becoming one of the crazies, he is constantly fighting.
So when he starts to outright kill people in "serious" adaptations, it just diminishes the character.
It's not like refusing to kill the Joker, is the morally right thing to do.
But this code is the thin thread, on which Batman's sanity hinges.
The "Code" is dependent on the times and the writers. The history speaks for itself.
It's more like he doesn't go out of his way to kill, but stuff happens