Avatar - Nostalgia Critic
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It was the biggest film of all time for years, so why does nobody care about it? Nostalgia Critic looks back at how James Cameron's sci-fi adventure holds up over ten years later. Let's take a look at Avatar.
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Avatar (marketed as James Cameron's Avatar) is a 2009 American epic science fiction film directed, written, produced, and co-edited by James Cameron and stars Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang, Michelle Rodriguez, and Sigourney Weaver.
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So, does Avatar hold up after all these years?
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Review Steven Universe: The Movie, and invite AwestruckVox from The Roundtable to do it with you.
You should check One Piece it's world building is insane
Will we be getting a review of Angry Birds 2?
Can you review Scooby Doo curse of the lake monster please
Could there please be a Nostalgia Critic for Stuart Little 2?
As someone who has been in a wheelchair for years now, the idea of running as soon as he gets into a body that has working legs was my favorite part of the film. Him just running right right away is a normal reaction.
Agreed, I'm not in a wheelchair, but my mobility is limited and I'd probably do the same.
same
But...was betraying, killing and dooming your own species, going a little too far?
Well, we would actually still have trouble walking. You kinda forget how to do many things that you used to do naturally. You wouldn't know how to properly move.
There are many things that make it hard to walk even with working legs.
@@blankblank1284 That's true, and they were smart enough to have him stumble, but obviously it would take a lot of physical therapy to learn how to walk again
The "Sipping coffee while watching people burn" villain cliche.
Only second to "Eating an apple to show how big an asshole you are" cliche.
Ding
Ding
Ding ding ding! Bell of sins.
See... what I want from the next big scifi is to have the bad human villain chewing an apple and his right-hand henchman sipping coffee while looking out at the morning light as their army stomps the good guy alien.
*DING*
In “Star Trek,” Zoey Saldana plays a human who falls in love with an alien
In “Avatar,” Zoey Saldana plays an alien who falls in love with a human
In Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1 and 2, Zoe Saldana also plays an alien who falls in love with a human.
Coincidence I think NOT
What an interestingly new way to be typecast.
Let's hope she won't be playing Mulan in the live action remake
@@simple-commentator-not-rea7345 Oh trust me the actress playing her is _far, far worse._
"Name one Character from Avatar."
"Aang!"
"No, I mean the blue alien Avatar."
"That movie had characters?"
Highest-grossing shmiest-grossing, the characters in this film were so uncharacteristic no one knows their names and this is such a weird effect. I tried this with friends and family and no one passed the test. The only character I remembered by name was Neytiri and even then I had to really think about it
Jake Sully.
Ironically the 45 minutes of deleted scenes from this movie has a whole lot more character development than the original movie. Mix them together and we would've end up with a movie we deserved to have, but time adjustments of course had to ruin that. Have the studios figured out that Lord of the Rings are really long movies and yet are awesome to watch? I wouldn't mind a extended 4 hour version edition of Avatar because there was so much we could've gotten into that world in that time.
@@treespunk Jake Sully, Neytiri, Tsu'tey, Grace Augustine, Miles Quaritch, Parker Selfridge, Max Patel, and Eytukan.
Jake. As a non-English speaker I learned about the name Jake so there.
You know you'll eventually need to review Cats, right? You can't avoid it forever
Probably won't be till a decade from now.
I'm sure the producers will spring it on Doug once they're sure they've rooted out all his hidden stashes of cyanide pills for good.
@@amanofnoreputation2164 ha...I understood that reference!
and the prequels
It all depends on Doug. The hardest reviews require the strongest wills.
James Cameron: “Avatar. It was nominated for best picture, and you can never change that.”
Love that line 😂
But it sure as *HELL* didn't win it. *Slaps kneecap and laughs like the hillbillies from the 2004 SpongeBob film* 😂
Jacen Skywalker 😂
James Cameron does do what james Cameron does because he is james Cameron .
DCValentine one of the funniest ideas they had to poke fun at him 😂😂😂
@@jacenskywalker507 oh I remember that scene.
The whole "marrying a guy from a different tribe but falling in love with an outsider" is funnily enough also part of avatar the last airbender.
Only she turns into the moon
@@aidanredding8058 yeah, that was rough, wasn't it buddy?
Poor Sokka. At least he gets that fan wielding Ninja chick.
@@philipsyoutube6111 and then Korra buggers that up......
Without even watching that series, I'm just gonna assume there's a counter-argument to that and it goes something like "Yeah, but it was more compelling there and less cliche"?
Studio Ghibli is one of the best examples of world building. Every movie has at least one or two scenes of a character with little to no talking but instead opting to show the audience some small aspect of how that world is interacted with especially with their technology. Characters are constantly interacting with their world, machines and environment as if it is what they have known their whole life. Their worlds not only feel lived in but shaped as naturally as our world has to humanities technology, habits and cultures.
Spirited Away is the exception not the rule with a character that is thrust into a world that is not hers. Which helps to make not only her more relatable but is borderline necessary in a world that is so dream like. Howls moving castle is a bit of mix with Sophie learning the rules of the moving castle but those rules come into play naturally as plot devices after they are introduced.
The best world-built worlds characters exist in their worlds and the directing is done as if an invisible camera is there to capture the best moments.
The Fifth Element
"Lang is so tough he treats his arm on fire as a minor annoyance." That's both stupid and badass.
When I heard that Cable was going to be in Deadpool 2, Lang was the first guy I wanted to play him. Brolin was alright, but I think Lang would have killed it.
@@stormtempterf8058 lang as deathstroke is my next hope....
he is the best part of the movie and there was a TV show he played a good guy soldier that was awesome however it got canceled
Dealing with your arm beaing on fire is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
This was ripped off by that dude in Tiger King.
Avatar: The movie with tridimensional backgrounds but unidemensional characters
Wait, that’s illegal
AVATAR: And you thought the Star Wars Prequels had too much CGI and shallow characters!
The movie where you wait over 2hours for 30minutes of REAL Action
🤣👌
@SirScrodoTBaggins i thought it was inspired by tarzan.
The worst thing about this movie is that I can’t just call Avatar: The Last Airbender by the first word of its name, because people unfamiliar with the show will assume I’m talking about this movie.
Well thanks to Netflix a kid who bends elements is going to be what's on the tip of a lot of people's tongues now, as opposed to alien space monkeys.
Its kinda theother way round, you cant say avayar whitout people mistaking it for the show
Even now im just going to think you are a fanboy of avatar the blue Pocahontas
@@Jebu911 i have to admit i admire the visuals
@@its_amarysso
That was at the time.
"Hey, did you see the Avatar movie?"
"Oh they did a live action Avatar movie?"
"There were comics on it?"
"Idk, I only watched the TV show."
"A TV show about giant blue space monkeys?"
"Yes. Wait, What?"
Then... Shyamalan happened. And he made sure everyone would remember which Avatar is which.
Doug: I want to know more about Aang than any of the people here.
M. Night Shamalon: Don’t you mean you want to know more about Aung than any of these people?
“You’re not in Kansas anymore” - James Cameron’s favourite movie is The Wizard of Oz (fun fact)
I am a huge fan of the Wizard of Oz and I did not know that. Thanks for the fun fact :)
Who isn’t a fan of the Wizard of Oz
@@Toon_Lucario lots of people actually, they think liking it makes them childish or effeminate
I did not see the wizard of oz
@@yaakskarf ok
"It's practically a cliche to say that Avatar is full of cliches."
Meteoric!
@@godzillavkk Exactly.
Not all clichés can be bad.
"she's with Aewa now"
"Is that a goddess?"
"No, it's steak sauce. We're going to eat her in a moment. Here grab a plate."
Best line ever from this 😂
LOL
Yep, that's in the video
it's Eywa *
Lmao that's it? You're entertained with that? LOL no doubt you would watch 100+ MCU movies (which was made for kids) even if they're all the same and remakes of the previous ones and hate something with themes more serious like Avatar 🤣 Childgame really exposed kids on internet
@@randomly_random_0 oh yes, the scene with the destruction of half the universe, Thor's depression and Bruce Banner's attempted suicide are just so kid friendly!
31:30 I love that Snyder decided to go with "One Woman Wailing" soundtrack for EVERY Wonder Woman scene in Justice League
I liked Avatar as a concept - I really wished that the sci-fi aspect of the world had been explored a bit more.
Watch the extended cut
I liked the extended cut more, helped flesh out why the characters act the way they do. But I hope that the next one opens with something big like a nuke from orbit to signal the return of humanity.
That and with a better, unique and more original plot and without killing off the best characters.
I could and have come up with better stories.
same but i would love for more character development and more story.
15:39
There was an entire language and music built for this movie, that the filmmakers threw out because they thought it sounded too weird.
This movie literally whitewashed a fictitious culture.
Blueface.
@@TheRealNormanBates i heard about the music stuff. Im more happy they took it out because it literally didn't make sense. There's a youtuber called Sideways who covered the ridiculousness of it. You should check it out.
@@TheRealNormanBates i think there are some demos floating on youtube, but i don't know if its an official demo from the unreleased soundtrack.
@@ARCtheCartoonMaster no, they speak the language that was made for the film.
Thanks for putting Narnia in your list of well done world-building. It isn't usually put on those lists but definitely deserves to be there. Thank you from a Narnian!
I read some of the books and can't remember anything near good world-building.
The "One Woman Wailing" bit at the end is comedic genius. Just hilarious 😂😂😂
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Avatar would have been a million times better if it had Tim Curry voicing a cloud of smoke
Yeah, but that's the case for every movie.
*Rick Blaine:* Last night we said a great many things. You said I was to do the thinking for both of us. Well, I've done a lot of it since then, and it all adds up to one thing: you're getting on that plane with Victor where you belong.
*Ilsa:* But, Richard, no, I... I...
*Cloud:* Mmm, I do believe you two are destined to be soulmates!
To be fair, any movie would be better if Tim Curry voiced a cloud of smoke
I doubt James Cameron would rip off Ferngully 2, because that would imply anyone actually remembered Ferngully 2.
What’s ferngully 2
Oh I see what you mean
This os literally the first time in life I know have a sequel, and I have 27 XD
James Cameron remembers.....
Probably, I don't know...
I don't know James Cameron's life
To be honest, you don’t even ha e to remember all the movies that used this cliche to know it’s a clichés. There are things that I think you know are clichés, and it goes without saying which ones used it. To be fair, Ratatouille did do something really good with a premise that I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of in a lot of cartoons or cartoon shorts, but man was it creative with it. It’s not super easy to remember which ones, but even if it is really general, it’s not like one should not know when it’s done to death, right? Like I said, this isn’t badmouthing Ratatouille, that one was brilliant, but this is more just kinda voicing my thoughts on people trying to defend this cliché, like they somehow forget that these clichés ares done to death and say because the storyline is technically not 100% the same, it’s too general to call it a cliché. Guys, it’s an underdog story!! A cartoon underdog story!!! It’s still been done before!! Ratatouille isn’t good because it’s 100% original or even a new concept that not one film has done before!
Well, now I do thanks to this review.
Oh God, the "one woman wailing" bit at the end made me laugh so hard. I am a composer and I am so tired of the music clichés, and this was just right up my alley. Cheers!
So am I, and yet....I loved it in Dune!
Likewise, likewise, and likewise... by far my my least favorite music cliche in cinima. The music eqivilent to shaky cam...except bei g a composer too i hate it more...
I did give it a pass in dune too for some reason. Ill have to watc it again and figure out why
We pretty much stole this joke when we reviewed the Snyder Cut of Justice League (“And remember to check out the soundtrack, featuring “One Woman Wailing”!”)
The woman vocalizing when the tree is destroyed while somewhat cliched was one of the only pieces (emphasize pieces) of the original soundtrack before Cameron got his hands on it and butchered it. The original music was a mix of cultures blended to be unique in a way no human had ever heard but Cameron felt the alien music was too alien sounding. He wanted something more American, so thanks Cameron... Your team literally invented a new genre of music that no human had heard before but yup, what we got is superior...sure
Oh, I never realized that people actually "sang" those parts. I don't know, I kinda assumed it was made with something akin to some didgeridoo.
Fun fact: Cameron's primary inspiration for Avatar was from Edgar Rice Burrough's Barsoom (John Carter) novels. Now that I think of it, imagine if he made a John Carter more instead of Avatar before Disney. Still really love John Carter.
And I love James Cameron
It probably would have turned out better than what we got.
My biggest problem with Avatar was that they deliberately left out a key concept, something which was later written into an in-universe style book on Pandora. Humans originally went to Pandora not to harvest unobtanium, but to gather plants that feed on chemicals poisonous to Earth plants. Why? To remedy pollution. Humans didn't go as conquerors, but were asking for help, and the Na'vi refused, kinda violently. Unobtanium was discovered later.
If they left this in, it would have made such a good idea: does the ends justify the means? Is Humankind allow to destroy a civilization to save its own? Is Humankind allow to exist if it screwed everything up?
Also, from a classic trope from Star Trek: are the Na'vi, a stagnating civilization, allowed to exist? They didn't evolve past hunter-gatherers, while literally sitting on "building material" that defies the laws of physics. They refuse cooperation with another civilization, not recognizing the potential benefits.
And no, they made Dances with Wolves, with blue cat people. Such wasted potential...
Hm, I would slightly disagree on the stagnation thing since honestly looking at cultures like that generally falls into ethnocentrism in anthropology as you frankly can't know what is actually advanced just by looking at your culture. I would also note that they are very much using a material that isn't defying the laws of physics, or at least their planet is since the material seems to be what is allowing it to make the various connections between trees. So rather obvious reason why they have no desire to give it up as it would legitimately hurt most of their way of life in a fundamental way. I also don't really recall the plant bit unless you mean where there were a few explorers at first before the corporation sent a full mission there?
Honestly yeah, the navi are a bunch of violent assholes. They're animals comparative to dogs. They shouldnt be killed but treated more like rats because honestly they're fucking absurd
The very same things can be said about Humanity, @@coletrainhetrick. Just look at how absurdly stupid and violent Humanity has become having had become hopelessly dependent on their electronics for their entertainment and very reasons to even continue existing in the first place.
@@adamgray1753 theres a massive difference between the two. All of pandora behave like bushmen north koreans incapable of accepting trade or any negotiations. Comparing those scum to humanity in general makes no sense, if they were like humanity theres actually be sensible fucking Navi, yet there are none. There barbarians. I have no sympathy for idiots, they equate to indoctrinated chinese or north koreans.
a nature based film were that wasn't a simple good vs evil but well done story about both sides fighting because they believed it was the only way they could survive was the Japanese film Princess Mononoke...here its nothing but Dances with Wolves, sounds that Earth went because of the plants to save their own world would have been a more interesting movie to watch.
The amount of lore and material created for the Avatar universe is actually insane!! They fleshed the HELL out of that series. Which is so weird since barely any made it into the actual film.
Where is it? Is it like books or something?
The director definitely has a tendency toward that.
It’s at a Disney park
I think that’s one of the reasons the film fell off the pop culture radar. No follow up or extended universe or even a damn companion encyclopedia.
And now we have sequels
This movie always made me uncomfortable when the tail/hair connected with something and they shivered.
But that's a great detail
I felt like vomiting in their scenes
Yeah, it's still kind of unclear if everytime they connect those things, you're not technically... doing... that with... an animal. Do you think if they get their hair stuck on someone else's, they feel awkward? Like you're hugging someone while you're naked and you can feel each other's... things? I know, it's some creepy thoughts, but I think nothing's more creepy than when they force the animals to connect. Really gives a whole different perspective on those.
@@radrno7 its just a a way to have a deep connection in general, you can have a deep sensorial conection whit a horse and a deep emotional contection whit your life partner. Its multi functional
fella monacci
Ehh... Idk. I could buy that if it wasn’t for the creepy hair tentacles lol. It’s a very bizarre design for such a broad concept. If it was more something like touching each other’s foreheads, which they even have it as one of the shots of the guy and the girl before having sex. Like the whole “Pandora is all connected spiritually” and it’s left unclear if it’s the Avatar connecting to the girl or the guy’s human spirit doing it. And you could have the guy trying to connect to the animal by headbutting, which would be funny and also show how it’s not supposed to be such a violent act.
15:55 It always bothered me that, biologically speaking, the Na'Vi are supposed to have four arms, since every single vertebrae in the planet has six limbs except them. But I understand they were probably designed like that so their interpretation and characterization don't get too complicated.
but six armed creatures can't be sexy, duh
prolemuris (or in na'vi "syaksyuk" [sjak.ˈsjuk̚])
the monkey things towards the start of the film when Jake and the scientists first go out to do science they have two arms that split at the elbow into two forearms (so four forearms total)
they also only have two eyes (most of the other fauna have four)
they are probably supposed to be the "evolutionary link" between the na'vi and the other life on the planet
@@tayloryork8185 says you.
Only two genders, go figure
The lemurs have arms that fuse together at the elbows, which shows a pretty easy to grasp evolutionary line of why everything has 6 limbs but the navi have 4. Over millions of generations, their arms simply fused together.
*Doctor:* I don't believe in fairytales.
*Jake:* You best start believing in fairytales, Ms. Weaver... you're in a few!
All this movie needed to be truly great was to have Barbossa in Jake's place.
I thought the reason Jake had to go into the body was fine. They literally grew a body for his twin brother; they had to grow bodies with their own genetic sequences mixed with that of the natives so it would work for them. HIs brother died. They didn't want it to go to waste since they spent the time and money making the body, and Jake is still a soldier who can follow orders, just isn't a scientist like his brother. So they asked Jake if he wanted to do it; they didn't force him. He didn't want to let his brother's work go to waste so he did it. No one is kind about it, either; everyone at the beginning is pretty much saying he's not worth the body because he's just a soldier and knows nothing about what he's actually doing. It's not the same as just 'making someone play football because the uniform fits' where anyone could have taken the role with a similar body size. THis was attuned to his brother's DNA and thus his as well since they're twins. It made sense to me. The message of the movie is pretty heavy handed but I did like that the reason the other scientists weren't making much progress is because they were scientists and Jake is a soldier with a different mindset, so they accept him.
While you are absolutely right about why the movie deems it reasonable(it tries to tell a story), it still is weird/illogical.
They are having this very important mission(infiltration/missionary work) that more or less rides on 1 guy due to his talents. The guy dies, but instead of building a new avatar for someone who would be equally talented, to ensure as high a succes rate as possible, they call for his brother and asks him to do it(btw, didnt they have to wait for Jake to arrive on Pandora? How long did that take, I wonder?).
Putting Jake in that avatar was a complete gamble that could have costed them the entire operation(him dying the first night alone). It is only because of movie plot that this actually works.
@@fendelphi Yeah but you're forgetting the fact that making those Na'Vi bodies are probably expensive as hell. We don't know how much it cost the government of that time period to make those bodies for them. For all we know, the price of making those bodies could've been three to five times more expensive to make another one, while disposing of the one they can't use, versus just flying Jake's butt over there to use the suit because he's a closer DNA match. Plus, we saw how the military flying legions of soldiers to Pandora, so it's safe to assume that it would be cheaper to bring Jake over because they were probably going to ship more soldiers to that planet anyways, so what's one more passenger going to cost them versus making another clone Na'Vi body?
Plus, we saw towards the climax of the film that the military wasn't opposed to using deadly force if things went south, so I'm pretty sure their line of thinking was "Well we can save money by just having Jake fly up here to Pandora. And if things go south, then we can just get what we want by deadly force."
@@fendelphi *_...instead of building a new avatar for someone who would be equally talented, to ensure as high a success rate as possible, they call for his brother and asks him to do it._*
They couldn't afford to create another Avatar body. Not only would it be expensive and an inefficient waste of money, but they were also short on time at the moment. Of course they had to improvise and fall on Jake to take over his dead brother's job. It may have been a odd decision, but I think that's the point. They were low on options, so what could they do?
@@fendelphi I'm guessing their ships fly pretty fast to get out of our solar system within a human lifetime.
The reason was sound. Avatar bodies are expensive, take years to grow, and the were literally shipping out in a few years. Why not at least try to get his twin brother to operate the machine? It all makes sense, especially with the fact that the bodies require the individual’s DNA; a twin works!
The first time I watched the movie on Cinema, the 3D effect was so good and unusual that I actually thought one random guy standing up in the front rows was part of the movie.
After we left the cinema, none of us remembered the basic plot.
"You sold the entire human race for some alien tale." Best line in the movie.
YES I CHOOSE EXTINCTION OF HUMANITY OVER THE GENOCIDE OF NAVI HUMANS BETRAYED THEMSELVES THEY KILLED THEIR MOTHER EARTH
Sorry but save mankind by destroying 2 planets doesnt seems fair, and more having other intelligences in the universe.
HUMANS ARE NOT TO SAVE ANYONE THEY JUST DELAYED THEIR EXTINCTION
@@adamnesico I’d rather destroy one to save my people I sure as shoot wouldn’t betray my species for some alien strange the whole plot made zero sense why would the military with space travel not just shoot the tree from orbit? I wouldn’t have wasted my ground forces on that there is zero chance those guys won technology trumps numbers anyday as any soldier who’s had to hold a position with an lmg will tell you there’s stories during the Korean wars of soldiers holding a position by themselves with a saw so I doubt a stick would pierce a bullet proof canopy on a mech that could be dropped from orbit
@@spookieboogi6161 because you are a nazi :p
I am the first one to give importance to the ones genically or culturally similar, but similarity isn’t everything.
The last battle had certainly no sense with ur point.
9:30 - That's a lie! Kirk would never say "eww" to any type of porn. He'd be downloading it for later.
if it's a planet in the Alpha Quadrant, and they have females, he's bonked them.
The woman wailing soundtrack burn was hilarious. I forgot how many movies in the 2000’s relied on it
And now too many movies nowadays rely too heavily on the dramatic violin. Wonder what musicians will think of next.
JukeDenton Or using the ‘’Inception’’ horn that used in most movies and trailers from 2010-2014.
Hulk 2003 had it a lot and was strangely middle-eastern.
I remember it being in the list of Doug's most hated clichès. He finally had a chance to get back at it xD
Don't forget middle Eastern chanting
Avatar literally has the plot for Atlantis: The Lost Empire.
nah, Milo Thatch was way more charismatic, in a nerdy way.
@@UltimateGamerCC It's too bad that this movie overshadowed Princess and the Frog.
And that movie copy things of Stargate
"Humans are terrible creatures"
Me: MAN!! (suspenseful music as a gloomy baby animal appears) Yes man. Man has always...(insert any bad attribute man has done to nature)
You mean... Male?
@@its_amarysso No. I mean humans
I know he retired that bit for the finger wagging one, but it's still a classic.
@@its_amarysso male academia... heh...
Last time I was this early, Avatar was still the highest grossing movie.
"I'm a scientist , remember? I don't believe in fairy tales"
NC- "well, too bad. You're in 3 of them" 🤣🤣🤣
4:31
“Papyrus font! Comic Sans’ pretentiousness roommate.”
Me (an Undertale fan): YOU DID THAT ON PURPOSE!!!!
I believe the Robot Suit having fully functioning arms and just holding guns makes them more versatile, meaning you can also use them as powerloaders, carry all sorts of things, repair stuff...I believe they aren't even technically military robots, because the giant, unarmored glass-pane on the front isn't really all that smart.
The Weaver stuff is the result of her scenes being removed from the theatrical cut.
In the extended edition you learn (and see) that she had a school for the Navi and taught Neytiri’s sister, who was shot down in front of that school by the soldiers after she and a group of others attacked the company machines.
This is why Grace isn’t welcomed by the Navi again until Jake convinces them to let her back in and also why they haven’t made any advancements with the Navi relations until Jake arrives.
Wait, Neytiri had a sister? Why is this the first time I'm hearing of this in 11 years?
oohhh
Wait I never heard this existed! And it doesnt seem to be in the Disney plus version
That isn't the point. The point is that he isn't much different than anyone else. He literally slapped away one of the little bug thingies right before. What makes him so noble?
JayOne718 Doug just made a joke about that, in context of the film Neytiri believes that Eywa has communicated that he is somehow important
The Grace stuff, however, he seemed to be pointing out as a convenient oversight but there is a reason why she’s shunned by both the Navi and company - it’s just not in the theatrical cut
Doug- "You don't judge the story and characters of a roller coaster..."
Me- Speak for yourself! *glares at It's a Small World*
Small world characters- *glares back with those beady soulless eyes and steals your soul to eat your hollow corpse.*
I went on that ride once a few years ago and got stuck on it. Was thinking of drowning the sound out.
🎶🎤It's a small world after all.🎤🎶
@@audreym3908 As did I, about forty years ago. Given the number of people who have been on that thing when it broke down, I'm suspicious that someone thinks that's part of the stupid ride and does it deliberately.
I think we can all agree that is the exception to the rule.
There is another big perk to Avatar being so well-known. Zoe Saldana has gotten a lot more work in Hollywood since Avatar and she's an amazing actress. Even during the cliched "liar revealed" scene, her performance is heartbreaking when you consider that Neytiri's race has been terrorized by humans for a while and she's seen death before, so Jake revealing he knew about the oncoming assault on Pandora would make Neytiri feel like she was manipulated.
You talk about how Avatar: The Last Airbender is so creative, when their animals are literally two different animals put together. There's even a joke about it in the middle of the series.
The bear thing?
Not only that, but some animals are more than just two, some are three or four of them. The Sky Bison for example is a cross between a bison, beaver, and manatee.
The last airbender world building isn't flawless in every detail (specially that episode where aang lie about the history of two clans), but at least Is good enough so you can imerse yourself with the story and the characters.
That was actually an amazing joke right there.
I’d argue that it _is_ creative in its own way. The theme/intent of ATLA is to be an altered fantastical version of earth or “our world” with many of the animals and human cultures being a mix of what we see in the reality to create something different and familiar at the same time.
Meanwhile James Camerons avatar is meant to take place on a completely different planet with extraterrestrial life forms which is why some of the Pandora fauna looking so earth-like can be a little strange at times (though some look more distinct than others and the upcoming game has creatures that look even more alien). The Navi also tend to _really_ stand out compared to the rest of them almost uncannily so, it would at least fit better if they had 4 arms like the tharks from John carter but I think there was something about animation constraints during production? idk
I need the "One Woman Wailing" soundtrack right now!!!
Whoa haaaaaa!
I can't believe they didn't add "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2" wailing as well!
You just don't get it! It means stuff!
Lenval Laird Jr To be fair it wasn’t wailing in that one. It was softer, and sounded more like a chorus even though you knew it wasn’t. You gotta give’em at least that credit.
Give me the Monks of Halo instead.
I'll be honest when the tree falls over it's still feels epic and the final battle is just so entertaining but I think that's also due to the music as well which is really good
And let's call some people out on their bullshit, if this was Star Wars, or some Marvel movie, or fucking Undertale, they'd pretend they were devestated 'like they just watched Shindler's List'. Oh yeah, as if any of those people would ever watch Shindler's List
If you order One Woman Wailing now, you'll receive a bonus single of Bwaaaaa, from Inception!
I'm thinking about making a film, so far it's great but doesn't feel important enough. Now I know what it was lacking, not a better script but One Woman Wailing! What is the movie about? Who cares! As long as I have one woman wailing in the sountrack people and critics will understand it's important.
Don't forget about the Japanese sequel featuring tracks from Hiroyuki Sawano.
Jokes aside, I unironically listen to Sawano tracks in everyday life, even at work.
And don`t forget the film The Mist. I think used rather well in that.
14:04 of course subjective, but with the concept of Eywa I definitely wanted to know more about Pandora. A living hive mind connecting everything through nature, all plants and organisms, and the people are aware of it, connected to it spiritually, that's pretty cool. The movie doesn't focus on it, just establishes the basic premise of the basic world and goes with it. I bet everything will be way more fleshed out in the sequels. That's the impression I get anyway. Like Avatar was just the basic ground layer, introduction to an entirely new franchise and step in CGI, digital theme park ride that will lead to much more. You can only do so much at once. Also 17:00 "Unlike fanciful designs in which weapons were integrated into limbs, the AMP suit is a multi-purpose machine, able to duplicate all functions of the infantry soldier. Since soldiers spend much of their time loading and unloading, and performing other tasks besides operating weapons, it was determined that the AMP suit needed the same functionality as a human: two legs, two arms, and highly dexterous hands. This allows not only a wide range of functions, but allows the suit to operate a variety of weapons systems." Built in guns are silly 20:28 The Avatar program is protected by basically the UN so it can't be cut, he doesn't necessarily pay for it out of a desire to further research, it just has to be funded due to government support, so this scene also makes sense.
"A living hive mind connecting everything through nature, all plants and organisms, and the people are aware of it, connected to it spiritually, that's pretty cool. " - that's the tree from Pocahontas cartoon.
@@diesirae1128 and it's pretty cool
"Having a giant robot suit just hold a gun" Jimmy Cams is a known 90's anime fan. I would bet dollars to donuts that this concept was taken from either Patlabor or Appleseed, not to mention 'robots holding guns' has been a Gundam thing since 1979.
I legit heard him talk about this, laughed, looked to my left where my Gunpla is stacked up, and felt attacked.
It's also a good and practical thing to use your giant humanoid robot for something other than attacking as well, like hauling or manipulating huge things.
Neon Genesis Evangelion, Transformers.....
Werent these suits primary for lifting heavy things?
@@Commander_Shepard. Titanfall.
13:09 “Their village, around Disney’s Animal Kingdom tree.”
Ironically enough, Pandora is located at Disney’s Animal Kingdom.
Is it really, that is beautiful irony. DISNEY IS THE COMPANY/MAN
It's fittingly, not ironically.
@@tayloryork8185 It's too bad that this movie overshadowed Princess and the Frog.
This movie and Force Awakens are definitely the two movies that were initially widely loved by audiences and are now widely hated in the aftermath of their massive box success.
I like how the na'vi arrows could barely penetrate the glass on the hovercrafts earlier, but later it is able to break through completely on the same hovercrafts for the final battle.
BECAUSE OF THE ANGEL THEY ARE SHOT LATER
They had help from the other clans so new weapons?
The added speed of falling from above may be enough to penetrate glass.
The arrow now has the sum of the speed the bow gives it plus the speed at which the archer is descending so it is certainly possible.
I can see a straight direct shot working when attacking with banshee's but not the shots when home tree was destroyed.
I thought they were bigger arrows
I had to do a college project on the language of a fictional race. I did the Na'vi and honestly, the fan community has fledged this language out to make it near fully functional. If you are bored, I highly recommend looking up the Na'vi language and see what comes up
With 3 sequels being made, I hope the language is further developed. It could go to the levels of Klingon and Dothraki/High Valyrian
This sounds interesting. Any tips on where to start?
@@corblimey8147 The website LearnNavi is a decent starting place, being an appropriate enough introduction to the key features of the invented language. Also interesting is Paul Frommer (the language's inventor)'s blog, Navitiri which is full of interesting information related to the language, as well as occasional works by fans of the language and film.
The film itself might be just okay, but I do give credit where it is due to the community that has built up because of it.
my sister speaks it moderately
Avatar: visuals as wide as an ocean, story as deep as a puddle. It's the ultamate tech demo reel.
Fantastic review, I appreciate the balance of poking fun at the cliches while also giving credit to the innovative visuals!
Tamara nails the ending though. "One woman wailing" has become one of my favourite NC bits.
Originally the Navi where supposed to have four arms to match with the other aliens designs, but ironically Cameron felt technology wouldn’t allow.....
Yeah cuz how like literally every other creature on pandora has six limbs including those lemurs, the navii really stand out for only having four. They're probably aliens themselves lol
@@Spongebrain97 actually if you notice the lemurs they have 2 limbs but 4 appendages. Seems like they are evolving into having 4 total libs instead of 6 just like the Na'vi
the syaksyuk/prolemuris are shown having four hands and forearms that share a common elbow in the background material it is postulated that they are the link between the na'vi and the rest of the fauna of pandora
revolverswitch Does the name Princess Looma ring any bells?
@@revolverswitch Boobs will always work even with 4 arms
Evil Starbucks
Their motto: "We're not just regular Starbucks. We swear."
Here's your F*cking Frapichino
Underrated comment
Love the double meanings
Partnered unofficially with Eggman Industries.
yes would a evil corporation based on taking out all other coffee shop's till there the last one standing nope never
I remember being a kid and I was only concerned with how long the military dude held his breath in that one scene. As an adult I know that people can hold their breath for insane lengths of time, but as a kid I thought it was impossible. That's all I remember about the movie.
27:15 amazing Doug, you’ve already predicted the plot for the sequel
Fun fact: Cameron has the rights to the avatar series not Disney
And...
@@davidcraig3716 No shitty blue Mary Sue
what??
Thats More like a fact than a "fun fact" because it dosn't lead to fun thinking Is just lead us to an no shit expresion. So insted of "wow Cameron Is still caring about avatar?" You get "pfff Cameron still cares about avatar"
If only all creators were as lucky.
"One Woman Wailing" made me laugh so hard I snorted, so when is "People Chanting in Chorus" coming out?
Did you like "One Woman Wailing"? Well, now get ready for "Ominous Latin Chanting". For when you want to sound creepy or old-fashioned, just sing in a dead language and throw in some Catholic imagery for good measure.
From now on, every time I hear that kind of music, I'm going to see Tamara in that costume wailing. Lol
Wasn't that being released under Cinema Snob's sublabel?
Try skipping through it in 10 second intervals, it’s hilarious how random it sounds.
@@briankelly130 DORIME
I saw this movie twice, once with my parents, and second with my friends in IMAX 3D. Seeing it in IMAX 3D, was fucking awesome. And I enjoyed the world too.
I really liked this movie when I saw it for the first time.
That might have been due to the massive amount of pain killers I was taking after my surgery but I still liked it nonetheless. :D
I was 8 years old when this movie came out in theaters. At first I thought it was going to be a film adaptation of "Avatar: The Last Airbender" directed by James Cameron, I was wrong 😅. When I find out that it wasn't, I was really disappointed... And then "The Last Airbender" came out the following year and we all know how that turned out.
Terrible... M. Night Shyamalan made a crime against nature... By making that movie in the first place. 🌊⛰️🔥💨
There is an Avatar movie? Never heard of it. Maybe you should cut back on the cactus juice bruh. Since you are hallucinating and shit.
Adam Vialpando you can even see nostalgia critic video about the last air bender movie
Diego Dominguez i think he was joking.
@@DiegoDominguez-oq4ny Have you been in the cactus juice.... There was NEVER an Avatar: The Last Airbender movie. 🙃
There is no movie in the walls of Ba Sing Se, here we are safe, he we are free.
Hearing him talk about world building makes me want to hear him talk about Dark Crystal.
The movie is memorable. Perhaps it’s a bit slow, and there was too much world to fit into one movie. But it had enough comics and books and later on, a TV Show, that garner’s attention, and gives it more room to flesh out it’s stories, world, and characters.
Avatar doesnt have that luxary. It would SEEM like a modern Dark Crystal movie, dynamic world meh storytelling (although to be fair, the Dark Crystal had MUCH better villains) but nobody really picked up on it and gave it some more oomph.
TLDR: Rewatching Avatar made me realize how much Dark Crystal succeeds in aspects that it failed, and I want Doug to talk about Dark Crystal if he hasnt already.
EDIT: (6/5/2020) Oh my gosh, look at all those likes! I'm glad that there are people who agree with me about Dark Crystal! Thank you!
He talked about Labyrinth a few years ago and mentioned a bit of Dark Crystal, but I agree , an in-depth talk about that wonderful movie would be amazing!
I like Avatar a good deal more than The Dark Crystal, but I will admit a massive weakness for Jim Cameron. My favourite movie is Aliens!
Oh Dark Crystal was a underrated masterpiece. Some of Jim Henson's best work ever.
The TV show took a very baseline film and made SUCH a good series out of it. A series where you know how it's going to end (unless there are deviating timelines) because it's basically an epilogue, and yet I can't wait for a possible Dark Crystal S2.
Dark Crystal month, pleeeeeease (he can cover the movie and the netflix series)! Heck, I'd even settle for just a single review of the film. Anything.
"You think I spent millions of dollars in your department to actually listen to you?"
-2020 US Government to medical experts and scientists
Marvel, Star Wars and Harry all had multiple movies over a decade.
and source materials.
This might actually be a good sign for the sequels. Maybe it won't be a regurgitated plot.
Speaking of trees, and since Fern Gully was brought up, imagine if the humans had succeeded in knocking over the tree over, and it turned out Tim Curry was sealed under it
It would have been a lot better
He had escaped to the one place that had not yet been corrupted by capitalism!
@@Thastormable SPAAYYYSSS!!!
I want to see that movie
Of course, dressed as either Pennywise or Frank N. Furter, whichever is scarier.
People around me in 2009: "This is the best movie ever!"
Me in 2009: "It was alright."
People in 2020: "God, Avatar was such trash. Most overrated movie ever!"
Me in 2020: "It was alright."
There is no avatar movie in Ba Sing Se.
Not even blue skins.
Honestly? Same.
Kind of agree, back in 2009 I loved the cinematic experience but knew it wouldn't hold up on DVD or Blu-Ray, watched it again on Blu-Ray, thought it was good, haven't really watched it since. Can't wait to see how great Avatar 2 looks, but I'm not bothered about getting to see all the characters again.
It seems the majority don't love it or hate it. They just think it's alright. Like me.
Personally speaking, I thought even the trailers were trash. Maybe that's a bit unfair of me to go into a movie expecting to hate it, but that's exactly what happened.
25:35 Wait a minute! Isn't Evil Starbucks just redundant?
they have to brand that way when supporting obviously evil characters.
Literally what I thought :D
2:03 "it was nominated for best picture, and you can never change that."
Such a raw fucking line, whoever wrote that deserves a raise
I must say, the land they built for Avatar at Disney World is quite impressive. Especially at night. The Shaman animatronic at the end of Navi River Journey is so cool
The plot of Avatar reminds me a lot of "the Last Samurai". I did like Avatar, at least the visuals. When I first saw the movie in theater, I didn't wanted it to end. It reminded me of some visually stunning animes I watched growing up but I do agree that its a mishmash of at least four different movies rolled into one.
At least 'the Last Samurai' had a more original ending, with a sort of Pyrrhic Victory since the Samurai still all died at the end as opposed to every other 'Dances with Wolves' style movie. The art direction was also stellar, as well as the practical effects. And the soundtrack was arguably more memorable imo
It’s kind a like a Pocahontas plot again?
Well yes but it’s much more in line with the earlier film Dances With Wolves, it practically started the Fish out of water narrative since then.
@@Brandonhayhew It's too bad that this movie overshadowed Princess and the Frog.
I keep on hearing Doug praising only the animation, which is logical, since it's incredible, but can we all take a moment to also appreciate how friggin amazing the SOUNDTRACK of this movie is!?!?!?!?!? I don't care from the joke in the end of this video, and I don't care how recycled Avatar is, I still think that the soundtrack is amazing.
RIP James Horner
I don't care about*
Papyrus is not Comic Sans' pretentious roommate, he's Comic Sans' pretentious brother.
I love how breath of the wild appears first when he mentioned world building, truly an aspect nintendo exceeded with in that game
Halo would be a pretty apples to apples comparison for Avatar, both are Military Sci-Fi spectacles...
grassfield sim
Would nier automata be a good example in world building?
BotW has the best open world to date.
Fun fact:
The Colonel in “James Cameron’s Avatar” was also Ike Clinton in “Tombstone.”
thats the only fun thing Avatar has given to universe
From a low life scum to a HERO OF THE IMPERIUM! A truely inspiring story.
And Pickett in Gettysburg and Jackson in Gods and Generals.
Luke Ramsey
And Freddy Lounds in “Manhunter.”
Stephen Lang has had quite the career.
And the Blind Bad guy from Don't Breath, too
Well, the sequel sorta had the robotic coffee mug.
evil, I hope?
And to this day we are still mourning the loss of Chuck.
"One Woman Wailing" is one of the best things I've seen in a while.
Agreed I’m a sucker for dramatic woman wails in movies
But the worst thing you’ve heard 😣
In your entire existence 🤭
But don’t worry 😉
One Woman wailing has a Snyder cut coming out on HBO in 2021 🤢 your welcome 👍
"I'll use the native American metaphor to fight the military American metaphor"
Catchphrase!
Timing!
Naive yet inspiring statement. Then the music gets... hopeful.
I still have fondness for this movie, but I was also 11 when it came out, which is probably around the right age to appreciate it
It's weird how I remember watching this movie but I have no idea what happens or what it is about.
Just wanna let you know that the extended edition has some scene that might clear up some confusion about character motivations. The extended version opens with Jake on earth, revealing that he took the job because he wants his spine to be fixed and also his character is set up as someone who does try to do right (defends woman from abusive boyfriend) but sadly blows up in his face (kicked out of bar). There’s also the school scene where it’s revealed that the troops shot down Neytiri’s sister which not only explains why Grace is hostile towards Jake but it also explains why Neytiri is hostile towards Grace.
Isn't the movie already 2 1/2 hours long?
@@bethanymcmurtrey9542 extended is 2 hours 58 minutes long, 17 minutes longer.
didn't even know it had an extended edition, hm interesting
@@sailordarkjupiter Neither did I. I only thought I got the theater version
I dunno, I didn't find "native and person that works with native" being distrustful towards the military guy needed all that much explanation.
You kinda overshadowed Jakes running moment. Think about it: a paraplegic gifted the ability to walk again after God knows how long. Granted the movie did the same for a bit but still
I think the reason why it can be overlooked is because Jake isn’t an interesting character, being a very vanilla protagonist. If he was more fleshed out, that moment would’ve hit harder
It’s overlooked because he wanted to skip the story because he thought it was weak.
Greg Mehlin Are you serious?? That builds fucking character.
@AT Productions paraplegic. His arms work.
everytime I hear the actor who plays the main protagonist speak, I always expect for Woods to yell "Mason! The hell are you doin!?"
The thing i loved the most about this movie was the speculative alien wildlife and the sci-fi technology!
Their goddess is called Eywa. You know, like Eva, Eve. Their "all-mother" goddess.
@white america's worst nightmare Oh, that is very cool, too!
A hive mind of animals doesn't quite fit the definition of a creator deity.
"The day the humans landed on your planet.. was the most important day of your life. But for us.. it was Tuesday."
Of course!!
I got that reference...
Have in mind that, ultimately, both M.Bison and General What's-his-name got blown the fuck out, Tuesday or not.
Actually an epic comment!
"Why don't they have human avatars to fight their battles?"
Because they used them in Surrogates and the show Dark Matter, and those SUCKED!
I saw it in theaters when I was kind of young, and I remember not paying much attention to the Navi and wanting the humans to win because they looked cooler
"...is that a goddess? No, A-1 steak sauce. We are going to eat her in moment, grab a plate"
That shit killed me. lol. This is one of the best reviews you've done in a while. Even though Avatar is one of the easiest movies to rip apart and make fun of, this review is still hilarious.
Lol
I dunno personally I thought it was a decent setting and movie. Though like many things that are like this cultural precedents split perspectives. I thought it actually brought up some incredibly interesting concepts that didn't get fully explored. But I dunno, views on these kinds of movies are memetic so don't know if people hating on it just do it because that's what everyone else has done or not.
@@travislyonsgary Were any of those incredibly interesting concepts even remotely original and not explored to death in much better media already?
@@travislyonsgary I didn't like this movie when it came out. I didn't see it in theaters, so I didn't see it in 3-D. I remember being so disappointed because I was so hyped for a new James Cameron movie. It just blatantly steals from movies like Pocahontas and Dances With Wolves, but Dances With Wolves shows you how to do these themes right and is a far superior film. Some people are just piling on it to follow the trend, but the movie is just riddled with cliches. I do think a sequel could be really good though. The world is really interesting, but the overall writing needs to be drastically improved.
Oh come on, when Avatar was about to be beaten by Avengers: Endgame everyone was talking about how they were hoping Avatar would lose.
that only happened thanks to jacksfilms lol
Probably because it was a major hype film and I still remember it and want to rewatch it again and again, avatar is quite forgettable, sure it pretty to look at but not interesting enough to get invested, the only reason it's so high is because it was held at such a pedestal for so long, the minute a movie that put shined it greatly, everyone wanted end game to take its rightful place
11:55: Kinda makes you wonder how it would've been if Grace's character was just fused with Jake's character.
This movie was so pretentious, it made it cheer for the bad guys, and I consider myself an environmentalist.
I can understand some criticisms, but how is it pretentious?
@Eaxl Of course not. Saying "it's super pretentious by trying so hard into making us care about a bunch of alien blue people getting attacked by human soldiers as one of the most obvious metaphors beating you over the head for native tribes getting massacred by colonist civilizations" definitely is.
@@lindenstromberg6859 I really hope that was sarcasm.
@@radrno7 You use the word pretentious, but you've shown you don't know what it means.
Honestly I actually sided with the villains on this one. The unobtantium must be extremely important and have practical applications if they clone alien bodies, figure out how to implant a human mind into it, send a massive army and mining operation half way across the galaxy, build a colony, and put a ton of effort into understanding the locals all in order to get to a deposit of the stuff. They even say it's not found anywhere else. The natives not wanting to relocate or negotiate some kind of deal (like you guys move the sacred tree without hurting it or mine without hurting the tree) seems kind of unreasonable. Something that important probably has alot of uses, my first thought was "I wonder if all the unobtantium could save human lives?" so a hundred or so natives not willing to make a deal seems kind of unreasonable. It's less like "space Indians trying to protect their village on an oil deposit" and more like "space indians defend their village thats sitting on 99% of the oil in the galaxy". If hundreds, thousands, or even millions of humans of lives could be saved is it worth a hundred space Indians not moving their tree? It seems like a small thing for the humans to do if they can travel half way across the galaxy so flatly denying any negotiation is kind of suicidally stupid. If an army of aliens ask if they can mine the rock under Mt Rushmore I hope we consider letting them teleport it a mile to the north before we flip them off and walk away from the negotiating table
I knew I wasn’t the only one that noticed the Jurassic Park sound effects.
Yet he didn't make a Rogue One joke
Somehow, despite being able to recite Jurassic Park from memory for years, I missed the fact that the horses had velociraptor noises. I caught the T. rex roar, of course, but I was too busy geeking out about the fact that the horses looked like horses because they were nectar-drinkers in a marvelous representation of convergent evolution on-screen to notice that they had JP sounds.
@@cthulhufhtagn2483 "geeking out about the fact that the horses looked like horses because they were nectar-drinkers in a marvelous representation of convergent evolution"
Eh, bet ya a dollar they just copied horses because "Injuns" rode them in Westerns. I doubt they consulted any ethologists.
@@smaakjeks It's "ecologists", but you're not wrong. I have no doubt that they were horses first and convergent nectar horses second. But it made me happy nonetheless.
Same sound design team, as well. Chris Boyes worked on the Jurassic Park movies (1-3) as assistant sound designer, before working on the Avatar movies.
"....wouldn't a thermos make more sense?" LOL that off hand line made me die :P
hahah the way Doug loops back to it halfway thru another topic, as if the practicality is still annoying him
I really don't understand how they could not afford a decent script with that budget.
SCRIPT IS DECENT
@@ANONYMOUS-tg2tq It really, really, reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaally isn't.
I've yet to see another movie chain up so many clichés so fast.
@@thealgerian3285 watch 1977
star wars
Any QUENTIN TARANTINO film etc