She's not great late game. She caps strength at 23 with no access to axes. Which means she stops one rounding fairly early even in normal mode She should NEVER be your bexp carry
@@baltemys6097 you joke but I've seen people argue that on reddit, like it's the most normal thing in the world that a so-called 'top unit' needs expensive forges to keep up with the low enemy quality of FE9 Sunk cost fallacy is a powerful force
@@oscarcapac1786 The situation speaks more of how broken the forging system is rather than Marcia. The fact that she's got flier utility as well makes the mega silver forges shine.
@@oscarcapac1786 The main reason she is good is because she is a flier and lots of late game maps benefit them. Yes Jill is overall just a better option however Marcia can still fight and when she can't she can transport other units instead.
Resetting for stats? I’ll have you know, I’m one of three people who understands fixed mode! I can’t say anything for Maniac mode, but Fixed mode hard I gotchu, makes some units very interesting. A lot of units are either perfectly fine and a good amount are actually buffed! Just don’t try to use Soren… he needs those early magic and speed level ups, but he’ll always stagger those stats, never get even one strength to help him not get slowed, and his bulk is even worse somehow. Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, you can “focus” strength really easy really early with steel weapons and the fighter/soldier/wyvern band, so in modes where caps don’t matter as long as you get bigger numbers, Marcia’s fine. If you really want raw combat stats and don’t mind resource dumping, Nephenee with Vantage + Wrath and a forged javelin makes you feel like a god. Is her meh start and E rank lances ass worth training? That’s up to you!
True!! Fixed mode doesn’t allow for these shenanigans! She’s an ok investment long game, but in maniac mode I felt her rough start combined with her low strength cap was detrimental to her performance.
Great unit but god damn does playing Maniac change up how you play the game, I do wish more people would use it as a talking point regarding character discussion, its interesting.
I’m here for any and all Marcia slander. Hard mode players play the game once on the japanese medium difficulty and move on, coming to the conclusion that path of radiance can be stomped on the hardest diff by a frail flyer with a shit strength cap. Nephenee is five times more useful lance wielder than marcia on maniac mode, her only issue is joining underleveled BUT she joins in a stealthable chapter purpose-made to give you a ton of BEXP. Use it on the units that will actually carry you, not tourist trap low cap shit tier units.
Hell, ENHardPoR isn't even equal to the medium difficulty of JP PoR since the game had like a dozen changes to make it easier during the localisation process
@@AlexT7916 Also true. Though I really wish the JP version had sniper-swordmaster-zerker crit, those units are just so bad in comparison without it. Not even that good with it. Annoying when people say PoR is easy because you have a lot of money and enemies aren't dangerous, when both of those are EN only. I've tried modifying the JP game files to get the crit, but it's actually a hidden skill called CRITRISE and that skill doesn't exist in the JP version. My only problem with maniac mode is that I break 8 weapons every map lategame, since you need 1-2 range pretty badly and those weaps dont one round unless you use wrath. But that's not too hard to get over.
Forging crit increased the price by 73.7% of the price with max hit+might and 8 weight, lmao. it's so not worth (effectively makes it 36.5 uses instead of 35) and if you plan on bexping her anyway, so is weight. 6417 with max hit and might
Still more money than the initial cash + the red gem. But yeah it was just the joke for favoritism. Also, she couldn’t kill that weakened below half healt knight without the crit, so totally necessary!!!
@@FireEmbros can sell the sword and priest bands to get 4k more at least, their bonuses suck. sounds like you're serious about the price in the description so it makes you look a bit silly when you say you only had to sell everything and 2 stat boosters blah blah blah
@@pivotkid908 if you don’t have the bands you can’t afford it unless you sell a lot more things. Also you’re still losing a resource to invest into an underperforming unit. That’s what’s silly.
Thanks for spreading the truth. Marcia is not a good carry in Path of Radiance, she's outclassed by many units including Kieran, Jill, Titania, Astrid and even Boyd depending on your tolerance fir foot units Even on her own merits, she's not that good. Her bases are pathetic and she doesn't have enough bulk for enemy phase in a game where it's mandatory. Even worse, her low str cap means she stops one rounding eventually (this happens even on normal mode) Do yourself a favor and save your bexp for Kieran, Jill or Astrid
Seeing this gave me flashbacks to trying to feed Donnel Kills on Lunatic
Donnel is always worth it
"FAVORITISM"
My guiding philosophy in every FE game
Marcia is great late game but she's god awful when she joins
She's not great late game. She caps strength at 23 with no access to axes. Which means she stops one rounding fairly early even in normal mode
She should NEVER be your bexp carry
@@oscarcapac1786 Just give her a max silver forge B)
@@baltemys6097 you joke but I've seen people argue that on reddit, like it's the most normal thing in the world that a so-called 'top unit' needs expensive forges to keep up with the low enemy quality of FE9
Sunk cost fallacy is a powerful force
@@oscarcapac1786 The situation speaks more of how broken the forging system is rather than Marcia. The fact that she's got flier utility as well makes the mega silver forges shine.
@@oscarcapac1786 The main reason she is good is because she is a flier and lots of late game maps benefit them. Yes Jill is overall just a better option however Marcia can still fight and when she can't she can transport other units instead.
I managed to level her to level 20/20, 20/14without favoritism in Japanese maniac mode.
Resetting for stats? I’ll have you know, I’m one of three people who understands fixed mode!
I can’t say anything for Maniac mode, but Fixed mode hard I gotchu, makes some units very interesting. A lot of units are either perfectly fine and a good amount are actually buffed! Just don’t try to use Soren… he needs those early magic and speed level ups, but he’ll always stagger those stats, never get even one strength to help him not get slowed, and his bulk is even worse somehow.
Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, you can “focus” strength really easy really early with steel weapons and the fighter/soldier/wyvern band, so in modes where caps don’t matter as long as you get bigger numbers, Marcia’s fine. If you really want raw combat stats and don’t mind resource dumping, Nephenee with Vantage + Wrath and a forged javelin makes you feel like a god. Is her meh start and E rank lances ass worth training? That’s up to you!
True!! Fixed mode doesn’t allow for these shenanigans! She’s an ok investment long game, but in maniac mode I felt her rough start combined with her low strength cap was detrimental to her performance.
I was expecting the 100crit forge in addition to everything else
Great unit but god damn does playing Maniac change up how you play the game, I do wish more people would use it as a talking point regarding character discussion, its interesting.
It is indeed a COMPLETELY different experience.
Yeah I wish a maniac mode based unit analysis existed.
People will still cope Marcia is worth investing
Getting doubled by an axe user, peak performance xD
I don't like Marcia and Jill on Maniac, I prefer Oscar, Kieran, Titania and Brom/Gatrie
I’m here for any and all Marcia slander. Hard mode players play the game once on the japanese medium difficulty and move on, coming to the conclusion that path of radiance can be stomped on the hardest diff by a frail flyer with a shit strength cap.
Nephenee is five times more useful lance wielder than marcia on maniac mode, her only issue is joining underleveled BUT she joins in a stealthable chapter purpose-made to give you a ton of BEXP. Use it on the units that will actually carry you, not tourist trap low cap shit tier units.
Hell, ENHardPoR isn't even equal to the medium difficulty of JP PoR since the game had like a dozen changes to make it easier during the localisation process
@@AlexT7916 Also true. Though I really wish the JP version had sniper-swordmaster-zerker crit, those units are just so bad in comparison without it. Not even that good with it. Annoying when people say PoR is easy because you have a lot of money and enemies aren't dangerous, when both of those are EN only. I've tried modifying the JP game files to get the crit, but it's actually a hidden skill called CRITRISE and that skill doesn't exist in the JP version. My only problem with maniac mode is that I break 8 weapons every map lategame, since you need 1-2 range pretty badly and those weaps dont one round unless you use wrath. But that's not too hard to get over.
Forging crit increased the price by 73.7% of the price with max hit+might and 8 weight, lmao. it's so not worth (effectively makes it 36.5 uses instead of 35) and if you plan on bexping her anyway, so is weight. 6417 with max hit and might
Still more money than the initial cash + the red gem. But yeah it was just the joke for favoritism. Also, she couldn’t kill that weakened below half healt knight without the crit, so totally necessary!!!
@@FireEmbros can sell the sword and priest bands to get 4k more at least, their bonuses suck. sounds like you're serious about the price in the description so it makes you look a bit silly when you say you only had to sell everything and 2 stat boosters blah blah blah
@@pivotkid908 if you don’t have the bands you can’t afford it unless you sell a lot more things. Also you’re still losing a resource to invest into an underperforming unit. That’s what’s silly.
Thanks for spreading the truth. Marcia is not a good carry in Path of Radiance, she's outclassed by many units including Kieran, Jill, Titania, Astrid and even Boyd depending on your tolerance fir foot units
Even on her own merits, she's not that good. Her bases are pathetic and she doesn't have enough bulk for enemy phase in a game where it's mandatory. Even worse, her low str cap means she stops one rounding eventually (this happens even on normal mode)
Do yourself a favor and save your bexp for Kieran, Jill or Astrid
Mar-CIA is a lot better in fe10