Nice job! One of the few makers that take the time to show both plusses and minusses in a sponsored product. Gives a more realistic idea of what we can reasonably accomplish.
Handles look great, return of the kraken is always nice to see. I feel this is super useful to personalize a knife ... It does give lots of options for one off items.
It’s only some time before the beetle successfully mounts a laser to the head of a shark and then we’ll all be in trouble because he’ll have “sharks with friggin’ laser beams attached to their heads”. Always enjoy your equipment reviews!
That came out really nice. I like it. It's an octopus btw, not an squid. I can't think of anything with the knives you make specifically, but you could make some nice presentation boxes for your knives out of laser cut interlocking panels.
The potential is unlimited. Really testing to see how it dose with other material types. G10, micarta and such. If those can handle the heat or just turn to goo.
Love the knife. The sharp edges I didnt think I would like, but I do. Handle graphics def get high marks. The laser... its waaay above my head but I can see where it could be useful in lots of projects. Once you get a process down, you're golden. The makers mark is crisper and deeper and the trade off is time spent doing it. In that aspect; still well worth it. I like it, I'm still sticking to my elecrtro-etch, but I like it.
Yeah it’s a trade off. Easier to position ec etching than the laser too. Potential to etch larger more complex stuff w laser. I’m hoping price will continue to drop on this stuff. 🙏👍
Side note, I placed the order the day you posted this video (12/13/22) and some where between your upload to my ordering the choice increased to $443.xx. Your discount code helped though. Just though everyone should know
So far behind your vids and just realized you did a vid on the engraver after seeing the short. Mines on the way. Getting back to making knives so I may have you channel playing in the background of my shop. Lol. Awesome video.
Having a language that has the same word for those creatures "Ink fish" what is the difference between them, number of tentacles? We solved that by adding 8/10 armed.
@@dmg4415 octopuses have LOTS of brains. Not only the central one, but one for each arm. Squids, on the other hand, are absolutely stupid next to it. There's even a "theory" (I don't know much of it to know how serious it is) about octopuses not being from Earth. (Seriously!)
@@MCsCreations ok, then I know a little more. But You are right they are incredible animal. The sad thing is that the live for just 2 to 3 years in the wild, but are smarter than a lot of people. I saw a documentary about OPs and they had one in a tank of water on the deck of the ship, when no one was looking it left the fish tank and went on to find the opening on the side of the boat where water is leaving the deck in rough seas, and dived in. A fish just flaps around until it dies or has the fortune to get back in the water by chance. In the Mediterranean they catch OPs by having small jars connected by a line, drop them to the bottom, the OPs looking for shelter sees those and make them their last home, next day the fisherman in a quick motion brings the jars to the surface and the OPs do not escape. It is in a way that they catch small monkeys, the take a calebass (dried hollow pumpkin) makes a holes a very tiny for the string to attach it to a stake or tree, and a bigger for the monkey to just gets it's open hand in, then they insert a peanut or anything the monkey likes but it must be hard, the monkey reaches in, grips the peanut to take it out, but now the fist is bigger than the hole, and the monkey refuses to release its price. It ends up in 2 ways, as dinner or in chains as a pet.
Man I want to get a laser sooo bad. But I really don't need one, but man do I really want to get one. Whenever I do pull the trigger, I'll probably get this Creality one. I have a Creality Ender 3D printer and it has served me well especially for the price. Awesome video and awesome knife!
Very nice and seems like it can do a lot with it, but the question to you is that which do you enjoy doing more? The automated system, where you just put in numbers on the computer or the hand finished one? Really, both methods produce beautiful results, but personally I enjoy your hand crafted ones more. Some of the imperfections add to the quality of it. With that said, I'd probably go automated with my own stuff. I have a tendency to scrutinize my own work being a painter.
Thanks for doing this research and sharing your results. Seems like the comment about using it to put patterns on steel to then be deepened with gravers is a really good idea, but I'm not sure I'd want to do anything else with it. Between the time it takes to figure out settings, and the burning that needs to be dealt with, I think I'd be faster doing it by hand. Those fish scales, on the other hand, are making me think.
You only have to figure out the settings once though. I am using mine quite a bit for all kinds of things - cutting templates, scribing through dykem, etching a resist for a makers mark.
My initial thoughts on the use of lasers + metal would be to template out things like a very high definition stencil onto the surface and then going in with a graver to do the more detailed aspects of engraving. That sort of stuff if you're paying someone by the hour for engraving is extremely expensive because it requires both a lot of talent, time and patience. Not that I think you could get away with matching a high end engravers finished results but you might get a lot closer than just destroying a lot of really otherwise good bolsters, guards and pommels! (until you git gud) But t really depends on the patterns I think, could be some value-added component to a knife/sword that sets it above a plainer example, sort of like how the German and UK cutlers of ye olde days used to do acid etching and other relief kind of work when selling off production knives for export.
Unfortunately it costs way more than that in pounds sterling (over twice that) so I couldn't justify the cost but it certainly gives a fantastic effect and is way faster than I could engrave but not so sure about the heat treatment problem, some lasers will cut through coolant maybe this one would do the same. Until then its back to the dremel,hand chisels or air tooling
Cool, will You try to make handle in different materials? The outer edge one material and filling the hole with another. And so on. Glue them to a thin base but having the holes made by the machine they will fit perfect on the knife and by using different thickness on every material You would reduce the time to form the handle, and maybe save some on the material. It will be like laminating but not in depth. I hope I make sense?
I’ve been looking for a nice example of laser engraving on steel for a while now and came across this. Nice work. I have a question about laser vs etching. Laser looks good but slow, etching fast but less precise, but I wonder if you have tried a painted steel that you use the laser to just create the mask in the paint and then follow up with the etching. Might you get the best of both and taking the paint off at the end would be very quick?
I know this was a while ago, but any chance you remember the speed/power settings in lasergrbl? I am having a tough time getting my laser to etch steel.
@@GreenBeetle from what I've read/seen (I've never done this): Dissolve 1 tbsp borax in 5 oz hot water Brush onto wood with a foam brush (some people spray then brush) Allow to dry Then laser engrave. Supposedly it changes the way the light is absorbed.
Man, I just bought a 5.5 watt a few months ago. The design and cable management is the nicest I’ve seen on laser engravers in the sub $500 range. The problem with it is it only marks the steel, doesn’t etch it. Now I see this one and just bought it lol. Now I have to learn how to use Laser GRBL lol. Are you available to help with that @greenbeetle?
5.5 watts should engrave steel it just takes a very long time. In the 5 watt laser I tested it took over 4 hours to put a reasonable makers mark on metal. Not very practical. Laser grbl isn’t too hard I can try to give you some pointers.
@@GreenBeetle the best I can get with that engraver is an oxide mark, it still looks really good, but there is no depth to it. No matter how slow I run it and how long it takes I cannot get a duplicated result so I’m hoping the 10 W will do better. I found a Facebook group for the program but I will let you know if I need any assistance and I appreciate the offer.
What kind of distance to the workpiece did you use for the metal etching, is it the same as for wood or not? I can't seem to find anything about this on the net.
For your removal, sanding, and replacement for your final etch, couldn't you just run some blue tape on the outside of your piece so that it fits tightly back in place?
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Now, why did you do this whole testing on your wife’s kitchen table like all of DIY’ers always do…🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️ Great video 💪🏼🔥🔥🔥👍🏻 Ps. I think you just like saying the word “Laser”🤣🤣😎
Working with leather is much like working with wood ( NO not a erection ,although working with an erection is definitely annoying ,unless you are a male corn start in which case an erection is mandatory ) ,what was i talking about ? Ah yes it is like working with wood , soft , floppy wood .It can end up great and feel satisfying when you know what you are doing but during the learning you will throw many a plank across the shop and scream at the top of your lungs "I MEASURED ONCE , CUT IT THREE TIMES AND IT IS STILL TOO SHORT !"
Havent watched till the end, for the love of your eyes if you get a laser like this consider spending some money on proper laser safety glasses. A set with a high optical density and rated for the wavelength of light that your laser is using should only cost around $50. You only have 1 set of eyes, dont just trust the set they toss in the box.
There's a pretty cool process called surface laser remelting that remelts the surface of the steel, which is rapidly cooled by the bulk of the material, resulting in very fine grain and high hardness. It's been accomplished with lasers as low as 30W. I think it'd be really fun to try on a knife with a chisel grind or asymmetric edge (the depth is fairly small), and it seems like there'd be particular potential on cheap D2, which should be expected to have a coarse structure and sometimes low hardness.
Great video. The explanations were clear and it was nice to see you try so many different things like makers mark, blade engraving, handles wood cutting and patterns and the leather. I'm saving this video in the event I venture into using a laser. Thank you ! The knife looks great. Are you in Texas by chance??
I like your review and you seem very experienced and knowledgeable about lasers. I would like your advice please. I have zero experience with lasers but I think one could be useful in my knife making hobby, especially for engraving a makers mark. I watched your Creality falcon 10 w review and a Longer Ray 5 10W review. Both look terrific. Creality is on sale now for $255 reduced from $359.The Longer Ray 5 10W is also on sale now for $320, down from $519. Which one do you think would be best for me considering my inexperience and main use putting a makers mark on steel knives and maybe decorating the leather sheaths ?? Ease of use and short learning time are important to me also. Functionality and good customer support are also impirtant. Please offer your advice. Thank you.
Nice job! One of the few makers that take the time to show both plusses and minusses in a sponsored product. Gives a more realistic idea of what we can reasonably accomplish.
That tool did some fantastic work for you. I can see it adding value to future projects.
Handles look great, return of the kraken is always nice to see. I feel this is super useful to personalize a knife ... It does give lots of options for one off items.
WOW. Been watching you since your first video. You sure have came a long way in knife making.
Thanks for sharing.
Man that knife is awesome! Super cool laser gizmo too!
Wow!!!So COOL!!!Expect to see more of your laser engraving work!
Very very cool knife. Burn marks and all. Nicely made! :)
Your videos are my go to when I'm on TH-cam. Love the content and craftsmanship of your work!
Nice on all counts Steve! Plus you just helped them sell another laser!!! You convinced me!!!
Enjoy! It takes time to tune in your settings for each material but it's very capable.
It’s only some time before the beetle successfully mounts a laser to the head of a shark and then we’ll all be in trouble because he’ll have “sharks with friggin’ laser beams attached to their heads”. Always enjoy your equipment reviews!
That came out really nice. I like it. It's an octopus btw, not an squid. I can't think of anything with the knives you make specifically, but you could make some nice presentation boxes for your knives out of laser cut interlocking panels.
That’s a great application
Thinking about getting a lazer and this one seems like its doing everything a knifemaker needs one for.
Twenty-five seconds in and I've liked already. How much fun can have in one video? Making a knife...with a frikkin LASER! Let's goooo!
Clean lines, looks sweet.
The potential is unlimited. Really testing to see how it dose with other material types. G10, micarta and such. If those can handle the heat or just turn to goo.
And once again Green Beetle brings the interesting content. Cool video , very cool knife but most of all very entertaining. Thank you
Lasers are always fun, no matter the application.
Dope AF results, @GreenBeetle!
Love the knife. The sharp edges I didnt think I would like, but I do. Handle graphics def get high marks.
The laser... its waaay above my head but I can see where it could be useful in lots of projects. Once you get a process down, you're golden. The makers mark is crisper and deeper and the trade off is time spent doing it. In that aspect; still well worth it. I like it, I'm still sticking to my elecrtro-etch, but I like it.
Yeah it’s a trade off. Easier to position ec etching than the laser too. Potential to etch larger more complex stuff w laser. I’m hoping price will continue to drop on this stuff. 🙏👍
Interesting piece of kit
That is really cool.
Side note, I placed the order the day you posted this video (12/13/22) and some where between your upload to my ordering the choice increased to $443.xx. Your discount code helped though. Just though everyone should know
So far behind your vids and just realized you did a vid on the engraver after seeing the short. Mines on the way. Getting back to making knives so I may have you channel playing in the background of my shop. Lol.
Awesome video.
Cool 👍
You certainly tested that laser out. Nice work, man. The knife looks suitably nautical, and I like the burnt finish.
i sorta do too
there's no way you license that squid image because there's no squid image! that squid is an octopus! 😁
burnt
Cthulhu would be proud. 😬
Having a language that has the same word for those creatures "Ink fish" what is the difference between them, number of tentacles? We solved that by adding 8/10 armed.
@@dmg4415 octopuses have LOTS of brains. Not only the central one, but one for each arm. Squids, on the other hand, are absolutely stupid next to it.
There's even a "theory" (I don't know much of it to know how serious it is) about octopuses not being from Earth. (Seriously!)
@@MCsCreations ok, then I know a little more. But You are right they are incredible animal. The sad thing is that the live for just 2 to 3 years in the wild, but are smarter than a lot of people. I saw a documentary about OPs and they had one in a tank of water on the deck of the ship, when no one was looking it left the fish tank and went on to find the opening on the side of the boat where water is leaving the deck in rough seas, and dived in. A fish just flaps around until it dies or has the fortune to get back in the water by chance. In the Mediterranean they catch OPs by having small jars connected by a line, drop them to the bottom, the OPs looking for shelter sees those and make them their last home, next day the fisherman in a quick motion brings the jars to the surface and the OPs do not escape. It is in a way that they catch small monkeys, the take a calebass (dried hollow pumpkin) makes a holes a very tiny for the string to attach it to a stake or tree, and a bigger for the monkey to just gets it's open hand in, then they insert a peanut or anything the monkey likes but it must be hard, the monkey reaches in, grips the peanut to take it out, but now the fist is bigger than the hole, and the monkey refuses to release its price. It ends up in 2 ways, as dinner or in chains as a pet.
Now that’s a cool knife! Love your evolving content!
Well you've done it again 👏 absolutely awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!
Man I want to get a laser sooo bad. But I really don't need one, but man do I really want to get one. Whenever I do pull the trigger, I'll probably get this Creality one. I have a Creality Ender 3D printer and it has served me well especially for the price. Awesome video and awesome knife!
🙏
That turned out awesome! Great job!
thanks for sharing. great work.
Thank you
That is a cool knife. Im interested in one
Damn, what a beautiful knife, man! Fantastic work! 😃
"And now with lasers!" 😬
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
That's awesome.
Btw... would laser etching the blade before heat treat work better? That handle turned out really nice.
Very nice and seems like it can do a lot with it, but the question to you is that which do you enjoy doing more? The automated system, where you just put in numbers on the computer or the hand finished one? Really, both methods produce beautiful results, but personally I enjoy your hand crafted ones more. Some of the imperfections add to the quality of it.
With that said, I'd probably go automated with my own stuff. I have a tendency to scrutinize my own work being a painter.
A squid handle shape would be neat with the motif here.
If you're going to keep using this I definitely recommend lightburn. There's a 30 day free trial.
Love this! Great job Steve! I think I need to buy a laser:)
Ty will!
Thanks for doing this research and sharing your results. Seems like the comment about using it to put patterns on steel to then be deepened with gravers is a really good idea, but I'm not sure I'd want to do anything else with it. Between the time it takes to figure out settings, and the burning that needs to be dealt with, I think I'd be faster doing it by hand. Those fish scales, on the other hand, are making me think.
You only have to figure out the settings once though. I am using mine quite a bit for all kinds of things - cutting templates, scribing through dykem, etching a resist for a makers mark.
Yes keep good notes and you only experiment once.
Nice! Is 10W strong laser ok for steel - knife blade? (mark logo etc. ...) THX!
I can see you using the laser to cut out specific pieces for micarta
My initial thoughts on the use of lasers + metal would be to template out things like a very high definition stencil onto the surface and then going in with a graver to do the more detailed aspects of engraving. That sort of stuff if you're paying someone by the hour for engraving is extremely expensive because it requires both a lot of talent, time and patience. Not that I think you could get away with matching a high end engravers finished results but you might get a lot closer than just destroying a lot of really otherwise good bolsters, guards and pommels! (until you git gud)
But t really depends on the patterns I think, could be some value-added component to a knife/sword that sets it above a plainer example, sort of like how the German and UK cutlers of ye olde days used to do acid etching and other relief kind of work when selling off production knives for export.
nice idea
nice knife
Unfortunately it costs way more than that in pounds sterling (over twice that) so I couldn't justify the cost but it certainly gives a fantastic effect and is way faster than I could engrave but not so sure about the heat treatment problem, some lasers will cut through coolant maybe this one would do the same.
Until then its back to the dremel,hand chisels or air tooling
Cool, will You try to make handle in different materials? The outer edge one material and filling the hole with another. And so on. Glue them to a thin base but having the holes made by the machine they will fit perfect on the knife and by using different thickness on every material You would reduce the time to form the handle, and maybe save some on the material. It will be like laminating but not in depth. I hope I make sense?
Nice idea
I’ve been looking for a nice example of laser engraving on steel for a while now and came across this. Nice work. I have a question about laser vs etching. Laser looks good but slow, etching fast but less precise, but I wonder if you have tried a painted steel that you use the laser to just create the mask in the paint and then follow up with the etching. Might you get the best of both and taking the paint off at the end would be very quick?
Yes i put this in a short a while back i think, or part of a video. Works as well as the mask does.
That’s awesome
Actually, the laser burn marks on the edges of the handle scales look sort of cool.
Frickin' laser beams.
They’ll frick you up, man!
Pew pew
I know this was a while ago, but any chance you remember the speed/power settings in lasergrbl? I am having a tough time getting my laser to etch steel.
I don’t remember but laser shoul be at max power, slow speed about 150?
Have you tried the borax solution pretreatment technique when engraving wood? Supposedly it results in a darker image.
Nice, please explain.
@@GreenBeetle from what I've read/seen (I've never done this):
Dissolve 1 tbsp borax in 5 oz hot water
Brush onto wood with a foam brush (some people spray then brush)
Allow to dry
Then laser engrave.
Supposedly it changes the way the light is absorbed.
Man, I just bought a 5.5 watt a few months ago. The design and cable management is the nicest I’ve seen on laser engravers in the sub $500 range. The problem with it is it only marks the steel, doesn’t etch it. Now I see this one and just bought it lol. Now I have to learn how to use Laser GRBL lol. Are you available to help with that @greenbeetle?
5.5 watts should engrave steel it just takes a very long time. In the 5 watt laser I tested it took over 4 hours to put a reasonable makers mark on metal. Not very practical. Laser grbl isn’t too hard I can try to give you some pointers.
@@GreenBeetle the best I can get with that engraver is an oxide mark, it still looks really good, but there is no depth to it. No matter how slow I run it and how long it takes I cannot get a duplicated result so I’m hoping the 10 W will do better. I found a Facebook group for the program but I will let you know if I need any assistance and I appreciate the offer.
What kind of distance to the workpiece did you use for the metal etching, is it the same as for wood or not? I can't seem to find anything about this on the net.
Yes same focus
Maybe you could use the heat from the laser to intentionally heat treat the edge only. Just throwing the idea out there.
could you use this to pre cut kydex for sheath shapes? how would the heat from the laser affect the thermo forming if any?
good question. exotic materials make me worried about fumes but I bet it would work.
wow
That was crazy awesome Steve! You rock🤜💥🤛
🙏
Can you use magnets to hold pieces in place on that table?
For your removal, sanding, and replacement for your final etch, couldn't you just run some blue tape on the outside of your piece so that it fits tightly back in place?
Sure good idea
I’m not sure the honeycomb is magnetic enough
Just put tape on the blade burn your maker mark to tape and etch
yes i demonstrated this with the 5 watt aufero laser a while back, lasering a resist works well too.
Cooooool!!!!
please, please, please, buy proper laser goggles from a reputable and certified firm. They will cost half of this device, but eyes are priceless.
1st Lasers pew pew pew fire the lasers
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Your content is always grate man
looks like they jacked the price 100 bucks since your video came out
Now, why did you do this whole testing on your wife’s kitchen table like all of DIY’ers always do…🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️
Great video 💪🏼🔥🔥🔥👍🏻
Ps. I think you just like saying the word “Laser”🤣🤣😎
they already increased the price from when you did your edit
Sheesh…. There is a coupon code in the description I bet people were using that on top of price drop. It was $500 a week ago
Wet the leather
Why do you like octopuses so much?
I am a human, though
No lazer videos. Lazer sponsors are killing the maker market...
I haven’t heard this, what’s going on?
Shurap doesn't need lasers....
No he do not!
Working with leather is much like working with wood ( NO not a erection ,although working with an erection is definitely annoying ,unless you are a male corn start in which case an erection is mandatory ) ,what was i talking about ? Ah yes it is like working with wood , soft , floppy wood .It can end up great and feel satisfying when you know what you are doing but during the learning you will throw many a plank across the shop and scream at the top of your lungs "I MEASURED ONCE , CUT IT THREE TIMES AND IT IS STILL TOO SHORT !"
Sweet im first! 😎👍
Havent watched till the end, for the love of your eyes if you get a laser like this consider spending some money on proper laser safety glasses. A set with a high optical density and rated for the wavelength of light that your laser is using should only cost around $50. You only have 1 set of eyes, dont just trust the set they toss in the box.
So disappointed! I didn't see one Storm Trooper shot in this whole video. What a waste of a good laser setup.
Lasers are not good for steel. Reducing rc. Reducing the value of that steel.
There's a pretty cool process called surface laser remelting that remelts the surface of the steel, which is rapidly cooled by the bulk of the material, resulting in very fine grain and high hardness. It's been accomplished with lasers as low as 30W. I think it'd be really fun to try on a knife with a chisel grind or asymmetric edge (the depth is fairly small), and it seems like there'd be particular potential on cheap D2, which should be expected to have a coarse structure and sometimes low hardness.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
Great video. The explanations were clear and it was nice to see you try so many different things like makers mark, blade engraving, handles wood cutting and patterns and the leather. I'm saving this video in the event I venture into using a laser. Thank you ! The knife looks great. Are you in Texas by chance??
Ty! Oklahoma
I like your review and you seem very experienced and knowledgeable about lasers. I would like your advice please. I have zero experience with lasers but I think one could be useful in my knife making hobby, especially for engraving a makers mark. I watched your Creality falcon 10 w review and a Longer Ray 5 10W review. Both look terrific. Creality is on sale now for $255 reduced from $359.The Longer Ray 5 10W is also on sale now for $320, down from $519. Which one do you think would be best for me considering my inexperience and main use putting a makers mark on steel knives and maybe decorating the leather sheaths ?? Ease of use and short learning time are important to me also. Functionality and good customer support are also impirtant. Please offer your advice. Thank you.
I don't know enough about the longer ray 10 - sorry.