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SMITE: When To Rotate? Basics of Rotations
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2016
- This SMITE video goes over the basics of rotations in Conquest. When should you start rotating, which roles should rotate earlier than others, when is farming better than rotating? All roles are covered in this video with some extra focus on support.
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And finally, someone explains rotating to me. Somehow, every time I don't understand something, a day or so later Duke throws up a video about it. Mad props to you, man.
Haha, thank you! :) If there's anything else that's unclear to you that you might want me to adress, feel free to reply here and I can see if I can do something about it.
DukeSloth I've always felt a little awkward when trying to steal camps, especially when they're invades in the beginning of the game. Would that be big enough for an entire video?
+Echks don't try to invade if you're behind and often times you want a big burst when invading(like wrath) so it doesn't get stolen. For example if you have 3 kills when the second spawn of speed buff comes as a jungler, you should look to invade most likely(if your team is in position like your mid comes with you and your solo laner can rotate if their solo does as well) keep in mind that on first spawn of a buff you can use your buff timer to know when it will be up as it will generally have the same timer and try using this to be there when it spawns. If you just saw the enemy jungler back or know he did and you also know that speed is up you should look to grab their speed, assuming you're not in duo lane. (A lot of this is in a junglers perspective as I am a jungle main but could be applied to adc, solo and mid as well if you think about it. If you can't translate it to those positions I'd be happy to do so) hope this helps some :)
Echks That's actually on my list already, will do! :)
DukeSloth hypeeee
tysm man
I freaking love your videos Sloth. Thanks for breaking things down. Been playing Smite since PS4 Beta and I feel like I'm stagnant in my skills because I only play super casual with friends. We do okay in causal conquest but if the opposite team has a sense of what they are doing we get destroyed. Trying to get my friends to watch these so they can learn what to do because what we've been doing doesn't work.
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got."
Thanks a lot! :)
Heh "support will rollout"
Only if they're Geb sir
Whenever anyone downloads smite they should be made to watch this plus other videos on your channel, would save me a lot of rage xD
You should be hired by hirez to make the smite tutorials for begginers xDDD this so helpful that its unreal! VVT
I wish i had seen this video a couple of hours ago. I had a game as an Osiris against an Apollo in solo lane, everything was going great, i killed him a couple of times, but i never got to attack the tower, because of the teleport and his ulti he kept coming back to defend. Once he got missing i decided to rotate mid since there was a team fight there. Went over and killed their adc but in the meantime i saw Apollo attacking the tower and destroying it in a matter of seconds.
Once in late game he got fed, killed everyone and won the game.
Ah, that's rough :/ Apollo has got a really mean split push going, always gotta watch out with him. He's mostly not looking to win lane, but just look for split push! Hope your games go better in the future! :)
+DukeSloth would Apollo with a teleport trinket a little much since his ult makes it easy to rotate. or is that normal to buy that item no matter who is playing solo
+DukeSloth I'm on consol but I notice a new ghost item just curious who would build that a warrior?
+Pandabearmadness you usually get that if you are going against an Odin and don't have a leap/escape (i.e. most mages)
+Jorge Alvarado thanks
Love your informational videos Duke! I play Ranked and yet I still keep learning new things from you all the time. Most of the time, within a match people just expect you to know things, especially at higher ELOs, but it's hard to know all the aspects of the game really well.
Keep up the good work man. Love your content
My God this helps so much! I love Mages in any game and in months of playing and watching vids and mastering characters of all classes I can play the good mids well but I wasn't good at mid! Couldn't figure it out but I've been trying to pish towers and keep an eye on the other mid. It doesn't help that at low levels most mids just sit in lane with you and the 3 minute support/jungle/mid fights I see in high level vids and pro matches never happen. I've been trying to understand rotations but I always thought, well I'm squishy I should just farm and wait for a team fight right? But I end up either getting ganked by better rotations, playing the staring game with enemy mid or letting other mid disappear and trying to take their tower while they try ganks. I cal missing but clearly I should go missing after pushing the wave. Idk why this never clicked for me. Thanks, I've learned a ton from this channel! I also love support and I think this will take 2 of my favorite roles over the top to the next level. I am kinda worried about my ADC whining if I leave him in low tier play though.
Really glad it helped you so much, thanks for the feedback! :)
+DukeSloth No prob. Also,quick question if you or anyone on the channel can answer. When and where should I ward at mid? Are early game wards at my back entrances best to avoid the ganks from junglers or should I just skip at and dump all money into items and early pots?
Kev1nL At the start of the game, don't buy wards. On your first back however, wards should already have priority over pots. Ideally get a mix of both, but wards are really crucial in avoiding early ganks - because that's when you can fall behind a lot. Also, as Sentry ward is usually better than 2 normal wards in middle. It's one thing to know when an enemy is coming, but it's much better to know if the enemy knows when you rotate out as well plus when placed aggressively, it gives your jungler much more of an opportunity to gank your lane as he'll know that the enemy won't have vision of him.
+DukeSloth Awesome, thanks again!
Dukesloth, will you make another quick guide for a God? those are always super useful and fun to watch
Yeah, eventually. Focusing on other stuff at the moment, but they'll definitely see a return, way too fun not to make more!
this is the shit we need!! i never know when to rotate
Wow. I've been playing for a few months and wasn't aware of all this possible rotation. I knew jungle but didn't realize the other roles would do it as much. I mean I've done it as multiple roles, but never felt it was part of the norm. This helps open my eyes a lot.
Amazing video as always. I love how you cover topics that nobody else is. Also thanks for indirectly introducing Masked's TH-cam to me. Excellent stuff.
hey man this is a great video. i've been looking for a guide like this to help me learn. i'm watching you on stream ATM and it ain't going so well for you but i just wanted to let you know i'm thankful for all the help you give us. keep being awesome. Vielen dank, mein freund!
Thank you for this video. I mainly play solo and my friend mainly plays support and he's always bitching at me for not rotating enough. This will help me get a better understanding of when it's appropriate to rotate.
Today I played my first mid match, I'm new about conquest. Even if I ended 14-2 with Kuku I didn't know if I was supporting team enough or should have stayed in my lane. I just cleared waves and helped solo lane until I got fed and destroyed them with whirlwind dot in teamfights. This video helped a lot :)
Great video Duke. I don't remember if you made a video about positioning, but if you havn't could you make one. I have seen a lot of people try to 1 v 4 people and wonder why they die. It happens a lot in arena, people don't stick to positioning and you always have that one person that feeds the other team.
How does Masamune actually work? The damage log doesn't seem to give that much indication of it being a seperate proc like qins.
what are those blue dots below the pictures of the gods on your team on the top left corner? Ult availability? how do I add that feature to my pc interface?
I'm not sure why I enjoy your videos so much as someone who plays exclusively assault. But I do just the same, keep up the entertainment, mate
With the mid not damaging structures themselves would chronos and or sol be exceptions?
Hi Duke, something I realised while jungling is that most people (randoms) won't listen to my calls, won't group up or even attempt gf or fg after teamfights. If I tell them, in a nice way not the usual bm or something, what went wrong in the teamfight I get spammed with 'quiet'. Any tips on how to improve the teamwork, or at the very least make them listen to my calls?
Hey I have been watching your videos when you jungle with nemesis and I didn't know how much of a beast she is I love using now and I always wreck haha love your videos keep them up
Niice! Thank you! :)
Me too^
A question. How much should the jungler commit into taking wards? I saw you taking some wards once in a while, but not all that too often. I avoid jungle because somehow Im always way behind in gold and exp even when everything is going perfect at the start. Maybe this is part of the reason.
What if I'm a mage with poly? Is it worth pushing tower or is it entirely situational?
Video really helped by the way.
Somebody probably told it to you already, but proper russian translation for “Subscribe” is “Подписаться”, not “Подписываться”. “Подписываться” means to subscribe constantly. (To do multiple similar actions instead of one.)
got a LoL ad on this xD
was it the one where the guy says "GG dude"
Shadic172 nah it was just one of their cinematic trailers
I got some little girl saying how much she loves LoL and what LoL is about....
top vid mate can feel your sense of wanting to help smite community appreciate that
Yay! another question/concern I had! Thanks for the video! watching it now :)
SUper helpful since Im forced to play support 90% of the time and adopted that as my main role. Good stuff
If you've got any more, let me know. Having played the game so much, it's sometimes hard to figure out what advice people are most interest in, so any input is appreciated.:)
Hey duek i have an super important question....HOW THE HELL DO I COUNTER HADES IN SOLO LANE WITH A WARRIOR?!?!?!??!?!?!?! Pls deliver this video aspa thx VVGG VVT
Johnx140 Don't stand in the wave early on, start punching him in the face once you have some magical defense, ideally pestilence so he heals less.
So how long have you had the subscribe button change languages? Because I've just noticed it literally 2 seconds ago and I'd like to know how blind I am :P
Haha ever since I had that outro :D
can you make a video about :Should you ALWAYS F6?
This is something i didnt know what was it. I never did rotation during the match, I going with the flow and never pay attetion to that, I keep push my lane until the very end match or kill the phoenix.
Duke, who on a team should buy wards, and who should buy sentry wards? Most of the time I only buy them when the enemy is killing my wards. Im not exactly sure when to buy sentry wards
Mid, jungle and support should definitely buy sentries. Hunters and solos usually wanna keep their money together, so for them it's rather normal wards. Everyone should buy wards, even hunters.
thanks duke, and I agree everyone should ward :)
i have a serious problem getting farm as a jungler and it gets pretty anoying, idk if it is because i play casuals and cant coordinate with mid for splitting camps and waves but i always get behind in gold/xp, i cant seem to balance doing camps, waves and ganks in a efective way, for example i played a game today as thor jungle and at some point i was 6 kills, 2 deaths and some assists while the enemy susano was 3 kills, 5 deaths and some assists and he had a slight xp and gold xp lead over me even though i was clarly winning in kda. it often happens to me that if i focus in mid and rotations i miss a lot of camps and stuff, or if i focus in doing camps its never the right time and miss waves or ganks. i watch weak3n almost everyday and its really sad (almost pathetic) that i cant figure out how to jungle properly :(
Always, I mean ALWAYS, clear jungle camps when going between lanes unless there is an emergency team fight. A personal tip: help out solo lane in the beginning of the game until you reach level 4. After, you can farm your own jungle camps but that little level 4 boost goes a long way. If you try to go straight for the jungle camps at a low level you will take forever.
the problem with that flowchart is that if everybody followed it nobody would leave lane unless their enemy backed or died
I know it's been 2 years... however, I think by the time someone really, truly understands when to leave lane, they don't need the flowchart anymore. A graphic like that is useful to start out with, though. It's kind of the "learn the rules really well before breaking them" thing. IMO.
I needed this.
Can you make a video on when not to rotate?
very helpful
as a noob to conquest i always rotate to mid as adc and then wonder why its taking so long to get to late game
your channel is amazing
I have a problem, in my account I always played arena bc of the time of the match and stuff now that I wanna play conquest it is so difficult because I'm level 30 with 25 gods mastered all in arena ... and I get rekt in conquest.
Create a nex account and start all over,its what ill would do :P and of COURSE dont go back to arena with that account xD well except if you really want to
Ok but just dont play ranked.First learn to play in normals.
Don't worry I wasn't planning on playing ranked lol. New account ha ! Thank you for the help.
While everyone here tells you to get a smurf, that may help, but you will probably still face BM at some point. I would recommend finding one or more people to queue with that have already played conquest and can help you out! You can also potentially find help with that here: www.reddit.com/r/smitetraining/ or here: www.reddit.com/r/SmiteLFM/
What happened to this map? I've only seen it in your videos. I'm new to smite. I wanna play here lol
Thanks a lot, it helped. I might start to enjoy playing conquest...
Guess I've always played Support wrong...sticking to the teammate ADC like glue and all... T_T
To be fair that's how Barra/Jeff played for 3+ seasons in the pro league and it was good for them (helped them win 2015 SWC)
hey i remember this game on your stream :P PJSalt duke
8:54 I see what you did there..."rollout"
nice link in the description mate
Oh rip, coming up i.imgur.com/NGnGBZG.png
+DukeSloth a bellona can jungle? i played with a bellona jungle and i was anoyed
aggited koala Yeah Bellona can jungle, it's not that easy though.
+DukeSloth i saw it a couple days ago a ymir, xbla, duo, chronos, mid, Loki, solo, and bellona jungle, and it was diferentes but worked well
+aggited koala also i love your channel keep it up
you were a great help, thank you :D
@4:17 RAMPAGE
No,
Blackpage
So glad I came across this video super helpful thanks
the best feeling is when you midlane against sol and u rotate but she respawns and takes middle phoenix at 5 mins in
Whenever I play support and people keep bitching me for have the lowest level in the team because i have rotate a lot.....life of a support is hard....
Dont play casual solo queue ...
NICE MAN :D
Whats adc?
Yamil Zambrana carry aka Hunter
i just get this feeling.... u know go gank. they open or that lane needs help.
(my jungle every other game) "gank, gank, gank" "you rock, yourock" (note its about 2 minutes into the game and I have already ganked mid and adc lane
I would be pleased to see this video, just I do not speak good English
Turning subtitles on could help a lot (not 100% accurate but they give you an idea)
ohhh right thx
duke solth ...out :D
If you're reading this, you've reached the first comments ever. 6 minutes ago this video was posted.
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he still dont know rotations but que for ranked, welcome to S4
666 likes? O.O
i thought its a geb tutorial lololol
Duke you still salty from yesterday
First
Clorox where u at?
You're so edgy.
+Morgue W h o r e k
This isis as no skill!
Hi Duke, something I realised while jungling is that most people (randoms) won't listen to my calls, won't group up or even attempt gf or fg after teamfights. If I tell them, in a nice way not the usual bm or something, what went wrong in the teamfight I get spammed with 'quiet'. Any tips on how to improve the teamwork, or at the very least make them listen to my calls?