I just stumbled upon your channel and it blew my mind. U doin very great, organic stuff. Would like to know more about you as im synth geek too, probably as 1000+ of your followers too. Im from lithuania, europe. Enjoying your vids, keep up good work, drop me a line, when not to busy…
There's something very down-to-earth about your energy and thorough delivery. There's something clearly "rich guy into music production" about your gear (so many input/output modules??? A bunch of Neve and Apollo gear!) But you make up for it by coming across as a real dude.
Thanks, Mr Theatre .. nice share. I would hazard to say, .. since, these tools are pretty powerful, .. the reality is that it takes more time to learn how to use it, effectively .. which, it appears you're well on the way, to doing.
Hey thanks for stopping by. So regarding DI, I think 1. if you are running a long unbalanced cable, like more than 10-15 feet or longer, it can benefit (noise/signal degradation) 2. If you have an unbalanced signal, like most synths, and you want to hit a balanced PRE, it will benefit by hitting your PRE , A/D with a strong signal 3. Some DI boxes can impart some character. It’s a pretty simple A/B test that show either small or significant improvement, based your entire chain. But like all thing audio, I’d trust your ears and whatever works for your workflow. :) I’m sure there are others who can comment also on this subject. If you are running something like a vermona where it’s already doing a lot of things to get proper balanced signal, your’re probably all good?
You do realize the vermona twinout IS a DI box? From their website: "This DI-box in a module offer two adjustable electronically balanced XLR-outputs. twinOut is designed for full stereophonic or dual mono use."
I've been looking at my other modular system - my garden - for inspiration with respect to closed and open systems. Currently, the workflow is not great...but still fun. I hope you continue to revisit this concept as it is great food for thought. You are very systems oriented (holistically) and that rules.
I have tried so many things and finally got away from a midi clock device. I have a midi track in ableton with 8 trigger tracks. Abletons extrenal instrument sends these to my rme babyface pro and from there via midi cable to my Erica trigg. There are the 8 triggers as trigger outputs. Often I use just 16th notes as clock input for my performer. this is then perfectly in time and the remaining triggers I take for my drums from queen of pentacles. I also use the midi in out jacks from the performer and an old xsession device for daw integration of midi in out and cv. 8 in & out audio signals go from the modular system into a marian adcon and from there with 2 optical cables back into the babyface. this works perfectly for midi+cv and audio in both directions.
Instead of sending instrument tracks or pulses for clock and triggers, you can also use ableton cv tools. I send/receive a clock with cv tools to/from my eurorack system for example and with a dc coupled audio interface (I think rme is one - I´ve an Apollo 16), you can send/receive cv signals directly to your modular, without a converter in between - cheers!
@@jimicob9143 oh sure and with the adcon device it´s no problem to do cv and audio. I use reason very often for sending cv stuff....but for the clock i´m so happy with the solution i found. you know, i sufferd with this clock shit for so long, it starts with may maschinedrum in 2004 and ended up in the eurorack. It was never tight enough for me and switching the audiobuffer size oder some random stuff happend each time i started my daw, so you had to compensate the delay of the clock. Now it´s like heaven. so thight and i can use any time division i want, just by changing one clip in ableton, or i can change or groove the clock in a single project. And i can use simple midi cables and no usb which is also a good thing ;-)
What a banger video. I have 4 cases of eurorack which I haven’t used in a number of years due to the rat-race everyday work to pay the bills. There’s a light at one end of my tunnel: time to be creative again. I need to relearn how to use my modules, and just watching ur vids is so incite-full and exciting to begin again. Thx!
I'm more of an FH-2, ES-9 guy.... But if you're just bouncing one track to audio etc, may not be worth it. Outboard audio of course can be hybrid mixed later, but many ways to skin a cat.
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE I wish I could, the language of Eurorack is in a league of its own! Right now I’m trying to record directly into my computer using a 2nd interface but I don’t think this is the right way to do it, I’m beginner.
Someone commented saying that Disting Light Pipe with Ableton CV tools is the best way and I agree. Unfortunately this requires a pretty expensive module purchase but as I’ve experimented, this appears to be the best. m.th-cam.com/video/MSM4yXhIvpE/w-d-xo.html here’s a link to a sonicstate video that’s really great explaining
Hey i know this is old man but how do you use your pedals with eurorack? Do set up a send and return on your apollo in post after you already made your eurorack lick or do you like to apply fx while jamming? If so for jamming how do you send fx into eurorack? Thanks
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE thanks for responding. Not many content creators do. Is it a mono i/o by chance? If you want stereo i can recommend a couple. Knob farm ferry is what i use. There is also strymon aa.1 as well. I also saw that you were using the intellijel i/o for going in an out of eurorack. How do you like it? Does it give enough boost to line level signals going in? You probably already know this but my favorite for going in and out is the Joranalogue Receive and transmit 2. The receive is a great input module with a good clean preamp to boost signals going in especially for guitar and synths and mics but it doesnt have phantom power. Transmit is great as well for getting out but is only xlr outs and has headphone output. Just a thought. Awesome stuff you do. Keep it up.!
@@joeymc5272 You need 2 if you want to run Stereo pedals. Yeah. There are a handful of I/O that step up and down eurorack signal. Intellijel works great. I also have Endorphin.es Cockpit that outputs signals to line level. I have occasionally ran into ground loops when outputting from eurorack to line level due to guitar pedal power supply and other issues so you have to be careful about your gain staging and generally need DI boxes and such. I'd add one thing at a time so you can isolate ground loops and hums when you encounter them.
I send the outputs of my Eurorack modules straight into a 16 channel input mixer using 3.5mm to 6.3mm cables, not all mixers can handle it perhaps but I found mine does it very well and it saves me from buying yet another 'bridge'. Then through USB I have all sound generators available to me on separate channels inside my DAW for further processing, mostly effects. I love your studio setup and would not mind hearing a few more talks with demo music from your cave.
Thanks for the reminders! I think the only down side was I wanted to use my outboard gear (pre AD converters( but it’s possible the headache that goes with it might be worth a box like the expert sleepers. A lot of options for sure, perhaps too many…
I recently got a Bored Brain Optx which is the best eurorack to audio interface I have tried. I have an RME so connecting it to the RME gives me total mix on my eurorack
I do for sure! I tend to mostly use my outboard gear to record mostly acoustic sources like my cello, drums, flutes. But it's easy enough to route any of my synth gear to any of my outboard gear. I will def do a home studio tour when the channel grows a little bit more. :) Thanks for stopping by!
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE I dunno... I've noticed on several channels that *after* they did the "studio tour" videos their traffic spiked. I think the Algo bot likes keywords "studio" and "tour".
I like your thinking and channel tagline
I just stumbled upon your channel and it blew my mind. U doin very great, organic stuff. Would like to know more about you as im synth geek too, probably as 1000+ of your followers too.
Im from lithuania, europe. Enjoying your vids, keep up good work, drop me a line, when not to busy…
Appreciate the kind words! Will do!!!
There's something very down-to-earth about your energy and thorough delivery. There's something clearly "rich guy into music production" about your gear (so many input/output modules??? A bunch of Neve and Apollo gear!) But you make up for it by coming across as a real dude.
Thanks, Mr Theatre .. nice share.
I would hazard to say, .. since, these tools are pretty powerful, .. the reality is that it takes more time to learn how to use it, effectively .. which, it appears you're well on the way, to doing.
Too kind! Thank you!
Is the DI Box really needed? I plug out from a Vermona twinOUT into my interface with a XLR cable.
Hey thanks for stopping by. So regarding DI, I think 1. if you are running a long unbalanced cable, like more than 10-15 feet or longer, it can benefit (noise/signal degradation) 2. If you have an unbalanced signal, like most synths, and you want to hit a balanced PRE, it will benefit by hitting your PRE , A/D with a strong signal 3. Some DI boxes can impart some character. It’s a pretty simple A/B test that show either small or significant improvement, based your entire chain. But like all thing audio, I’d trust your ears and whatever works for your workflow. :) I’m sure there are others who can comment also on this subject. If you are running something like a vermona where it’s already doing a lot of things to get proper balanced signal, your’re probably all good?
You do realize the vermona twinout IS a DI box? From their website: "This DI-box in a module offer two adjustable electronically balanced XLR-outputs. twinOut is designed for full stereophonic or dual mono use."
@@BlackMan614 thx!
I've been looking at my other modular system - my garden - for inspiration with respect to closed and open systems. Currently, the workflow is not great...but still fun. I hope you continue to revisit this concept as it is great food for thought. You are very systems oriented (holistically) and that rules.
What are those cool lights you have over each of the Euro cases?
Monitor lights from Amazon! Works great! :)
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE Ah cool thanks! Really like your setup, looks well thought-out. Cheers!
I have tried so many things and finally got away from a midi clock device. I have a midi track in ableton with 8 trigger tracks. Abletons extrenal instrument sends these to my rme babyface pro and from there via midi cable to my Erica trigg. There are the 8 triggers as trigger outputs. Often I use just 16th notes as clock input for my performer. this is then perfectly in time and the remaining triggers I take for my drums from queen of pentacles. I also use the midi in out jacks from the performer and an old xsession device for daw integration of midi in out and cv. 8 in & out audio signals go from the modular system into a marian adcon and from there with 2 optical cables back into the babyface. this works perfectly for midi+cv and audio in both directions.
Thanks for sharing. For sure Ableton is a whole lot eurorack friendly than logic. Very cool insight on your workflow!
Instead of sending instrument tracks or pulses for clock and triggers, you can also use ableton cv tools. I send/receive a clock with cv tools to/from my eurorack system for example and with a dc coupled audio interface (I think rme is one - I´ve an Apollo 16), you can send/receive cv signals directly to your modular, without a converter in between - cheers!
@@jimicob9143 Yeah I've got CV Tools on my Ableton but it's not something I considered just because Ableton isn't my primary DAW which is a bummer! :(
@@jimicob9143 oh sure and with the adcon device it´s no problem to do cv and audio. I use reason very often for sending cv stuff....but for the clock i´m so happy with the solution i found. you know, i sufferd with this clock shit for so long, it starts with may maschinedrum in 2004 and ended up in the eurorack. It was never tight enough for me and switching the audiobuffer size oder some random stuff happend each time i started my daw, so you had to compensate the delay of the clock. Now it´s like heaven. so thight and i can use any time division i want, just by changing one clip in ableton, or i can change or groove the clock in a single project. And i can use simple midi cables and no usb which is also a good thing ;-)
@@marcodoll7191very interesting and cool to see, how everybody in some way finds their own workflow/workaround to solve a specific problem 🤟
What a banger video. I have 4 cases of eurorack which I haven’t used in a number of years due to the rat-race everyday work to pay the bills. There’s a light at one end of my tunnel: time to be creative again. I need to relearn how to use my modules, and just watching ur vids is so incite-full and exciting to begin again. Thx!
So great to hear this! Good luck!!!
I'm more of an FH-2, ES-9 guy.... But if you're just bouncing one track to audio etc, may not be worth it.
Outboard audio of course can be hybrid mixed later, but many ways to skin a cat.
It’s still really confusing to me. I wish I knew what you were saying.
Hey there! Can you be more specific? Appreciate you stopping by!
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE I wish I could, the language of Eurorack is in a league of its own! Right now I’m trying to record directly into my computer using a 2nd interface but I don’t think this is the right way to do it, I’m beginner.
Someone commented saying that Disting Light Pipe with Ableton CV tools is the best way and I agree. Unfortunately this requires a pretty expensive module purchase but as I’ve experimented, this appears to be the best. m.th-cam.com/video/MSM4yXhIvpE/w-d-xo.html here’s a link to a sonicstate video that’s really great explaining
It's pretty unlikely that eurorack signals would damage your audio interface. Of course it's best to check and make sure but most can handle it.
Hey i know this is old man but how do you use your pedals with eurorack? Do set up a send and return on your apollo in post after you already made your eurorack lick or do you like to apply fx while jamming? If so for jamming how do you send fx into eurorack? Thanks
I have a Intellijel Pedal I/O 1U that can route signals to and fro (with proper impedance) it works great!
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE thanks for responding. Not many content creators do. Is it a mono i/o by chance? If you want stereo i can recommend a couple. Knob farm ferry is what i use. There is also strymon aa.1 as well.
I also saw that you were using the intellijel i/o for going in an out of eurorack. How do you like it? Does it give enough boost to line level signals going in? You probably already know this but my favorite for going in and out is the Joranalogue Receive and transmit 2. The receive is a great input module with a good clean preamp to boost signals going in especially for guitar and synths and mics but it doesnt have phantom power. Transmit is great as well for getting out but is only xlr outs and has headphone output. Just a thought. Awesome stuff you do. Keep it up.!
@@joeymc5272 You need 2 if you want to run Stereo pedals. Yeah. There are a handful of I/O that step up and down eurorack signal. Intellijel works great. I also have Endorphin.es Cockpit that outputs signals to line level. I have occasionally ran into ground loops when outputting from eurorack to line level due to guitar pedal power supply and other issues so you have to be careful about your gain staging and generally need DI boxes and such. I'd add one thing at a time so you can isolate ground loops and hums when you encounter them.
I send the outputs of my Eurorack modules straight into a 16 channel input mixer using 3.5mm to 6.3mm cables, not all mixers can handle it perhaps but I found mine does it very well and it saves me from buying yet another 'bridge'. Then through USB I have all sound generators available to me on separate channels inside my DAW for further processing, mostly effects.
I love your studio setup and would not mind hearing a few more talks with demo music from your cave.
expert Sleepers es-8 or es-9 are perfect for this
Thanks for the reminders! I think the only down side was I wanted to use my outboard gear (pre AD converters( but it’s possible the headache that goes with it might be worth a box like the expert sleepers. A lot of options for sure, perhaps too many…
Good to see you posting again, your channel is pure unapologetic gear porn
Oh nice, you’re back 👍
I recently got a Bored Brain Optx which is the best eurorack to audio interface I have tried. I have an RME so connecting it to the RME gives me total mix on my eurorack
Right on! Thanks for the tip!!
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE NP, I had the WMD performance mixer too but I just like this option better. So I sold it. Too much HP.
Wait... I can see your racks of outboard gear. You don't use those preamps/eq/comp on your synths? We need a studio tour!!
I do for sure! I tend to mostly use my outboard gear to record mostly acoustic sources like my cello, drums, flutes. But it's easy enough to route any of my synth gear to any of my outboard gear. I will def do a home studio tour when the channel grows a little bit more. :) Thanks for stopping by!
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE I dunno... I've noticed on several channels that *after* they did the "studio tour" videos their traffic spiked. I think the Algo bot likes keywords "studio" and "tour".
Nice video. I’m in the process of integrating my euro into logic. Always teething problems. Thanks for the tips!