Thoughts About John Allen Chau's Death - Ask Pastor Tim
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- What are Christians to make of the recent controversy regarding the death of John Allen Chau? Should we look down on him as one guilty of foolish presumption, or commend him as one who it appears trusted God and gave his life for the sake of Christ?
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(Thumbnail image includes a painting of the massacre of missionaries John Williams and Mr. Harris from 1839.)
when i first read about John Chau on yahoo news i didnt know anything about sentinelese island. i was shocked but at the same time amazed at what John Chau did, i went into his instagram and loved all his pictures of nature and could see that he was truly a carefree, loving and fearless. the story touched me in a personal way, possibly bc my sister passed away at 26 too in Africa trying to also help the people there. i prayed about him and his family, mainly that his body would be retrieved bc again i remember the worry when my family also faced this with my sister. that night i had a beautiful dream where i saw many people, including myself getting these beautiful swords and as an army we stood in the shore of the sentinelese island facing the island. i cant interpret the dream but it is enough to know that God is in all this, and all that are criticizing John have no idea what sacrifice he has done all for the love he had to share Gods Word. it is admirable!
John is of course the Jim Elliot of our days!
Concerning, breaking the law, what about obeying the Great Commission. When it comes to a choice, John chose to obey God, rather the Indian authorities.
What about the criticism of infecting the people? Many Indian anthropologists been there. Only a missionary is infectious? How come?
Dear brother John, I am truly jealous of you, if I had your boldness, your love for the lost, your passion for His call at such an young age. Above all you loved the Lord more than your life. Praise the Lord for your life!
"Go therefore and make disciples of ALL nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” - Matthew 28:19-20
"For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18
"To live is Christ and to die is gain." - Philippians 1:21
PREACH THE GOSPEL BY ALL MEANS
Brother Chau’s experience is an inspiration. If our Christian brothers and sisters hadn’t been willing to listen to Jesus’ call to “go into all nations and preach the gospel” (no matter the dangers that await them) we would have no history of martyrs.... as such, there are many!
The martyrs of Jesus are enjoying some of the most noblest crowns as we speak and have heard the glorious words, “Well done, good and faithful servant. Enter into the joy of your Master.” 🕊 😊 🙏 ♥️
Exactly what is "The gospel"? I see a lot of people using that term, so what does it mean?
Timothy Yakich,
Great question. It means the “Good News” of Jesus Christ! Do you understand this concept from the Bible, my friend? 🕊
@@JOHNch4.v.v.7to10 The key to understanding the gospel is to know why it’s good news. To do that, we must start with the bad news. The Old Testament Law was given to Israel during the time of Moses (Deuteronomy 5:1). The Law can be thought of as a measuring stick, and sin is anything that falls short of “perfect” according to that standard. The righteous requirement of the Law is so stringent that no human being could possibly follow it perfectly, in letter or in spirit. Despite our “goodness” or “badness” relative to each other, we are all in the same spiritual boat-we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God, the source of life (Romans 3:23). In order for us to go to heaven, God’s dwelling place and the realm of life and light, sin must be somehow removed or paid for. The Law established the fact that cleansing from sin can only happen through the bloody sacrifice of an innocent life (Hebrews 9:22).
The gospel involves Jesus’ death on the cross as the sin offering to fulfill the Law’s righteous requirement (Romans 8:3-4; Hebrews 10:5-10). Under the Law, animal sacrifices were offered year after year as a reminder of sin and a symbol of the coming sacrifice of Christ (Hebrews 10:3-4). When Christ offered Himself at Calvary, that symbol became a reality for all who would believe (Hebrews 10:11-18). The work of atonement is finished now, and that’s good news.
The gospel also involves Jesus’ resurrection on the third day. “He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification” (Romans 4:25). The fact that Jesus conquered sin and death (sin’s penalty) is good news, indeed. The fact that He offers to share that victory with us is the greatest news of all (John 14:19).
The elements of the gospel are clearly stated in 1 Corinthians 15:3-6, a key passage concerning the good news of God: “For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living.” Notice, first, that Paul “received” the gospel and then “passed it on”; this is a divine message, not a man-made invention. Second, the gospel is “of first importance.” Everywhere the apostles went, they preached the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. Third, the message of the gospel is accompanied by proofs: Christ died for our sins (proved by His burial), and He rose again the third day (proved by the eyewitnesses). Fourth, all this was done “according to the Scriptures”; the theme of the whole Bible is the salvation of mankind through Christ. The Bible is the gospel.
“I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile” (Romans 1:16). The gospel is a bold message, and we are not ashamed of proclaiming it. It is a powerful message, because it is God’s good news. It is a saving message, the only thing that can truly reform the human heart. It is a universal message, for Jews and Gentiles both. And the gospel is received by faith; salvation is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8-9).
The gospel is the good news that God loves the world enough to give His only Son to die for our sin (John 3:16). The gospel is good news because our salvation and eternal life and home in heaven are guaranteed through Christ (John 14:1-4). “He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you” (1 Peter 1:3-4).
The gospel is good news when we understand that we do not (and cannot) earn our salvation; the work of redemption and justification is complete, having been finished on the cross (John 19:30). Jesus is the propitiation for our sins (1 John 2:2). The gospel is the good news that we, who were once enemies of God, have been reconciled by the blood of Christ and adopted into the family of God (Romans 5:10; John 1:12). “See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!” (1 John 3:1). The gospel is the good news that “there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1).
To reject the gospel is to embrace the bad news. Condemnation before God is the result of a lack of faith in the Son of God, God’s only provision for salvation. “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:17-18). God has given a doomed world good news: the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
www.gotquestions.org/what-is-the-gospel.html
I don't know all the details,but I know the young man took it all the way ,to spread the gospel.He is more of a man than I will ever be.Keep his family in prayer.
Have a nice day 😄and a Merry Christmas.I'll be praying for you as well.
God Bless him and his family
..the BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS IS THE SEED OF THE CHURCH
MAY THE LAMB THAT WAS SLAIN RECIEVE THE REWARD FOR HIS SUFFERING
The same people that wont share the gospel are the same ones that will question this man that gave his life trying to share christ! I would rather die doing the will of God then to be a spoiled christian that is happy doing nithing but looking good in church popping $20 in the offering plate. No law was broken!!! Christ is the King, and its his authority that sent that man. Do we hold on to man made laws or obey God? I only wish we had 20,000 of this type of christian! Every day christians are being killed or prosecuted for the Gospel sake. Let guve God glory for the faith this man had to go!
Amen, so true
The law is the law that's like saying no is yes
That is the best thought that I have heard about John Chau and his missionary work. God bless you, pastor Tim.
I'm not gonna lie, when I first heard this story about John Chau, I thought it was foolish of him, but this video changed my perspective.
Yes me too i can honestly say that too,but after i heard these brethren thoughts,and what our Lord’s commanded according to scripture,i repented.
You honor him with this video, Pastor Tim. May our faith bear at least some semblence to his dedication.
@@MyCatherineb I love how you try and spin it to make me look bad, when you're the person trolling a Christian page and bothering good people.
I don't care if you're black. I'm Asian. So?
You do need help, hopefully you woke up this morning and realized the tirade you went on on this page yesterday. You do appear more calm, but that doesn't justify you acting innocent and claiming I was the one who was belligerent.
I grew up in a city where the median home value is $2.5 million. Your six figures means nothing either way.
Stop bothering other people and work out your issues as to why you are so mad at people that simply worship their Creator. Surely you don't believe all time, space, and matter created itself? May God Bless you.
@Greg Lange You sound like you're trying to convince yourself.
This was just brilliant! I'm going to show it to my son. Thank you for doing this , it gave me a good cry, very inspirational. God bless :)
When I heard about John Allen Chau's death,my first thought was:Here is a true man of God that just wanted to get Our Heavenly Father's Word out,A brave man,who risked his life for Our Lord Jesus.I pray for his family,that God may be with them and comfort them during this very difficult time.
@@troig43 You're saying it is better to let them all spend eternity in hell?
May we all remember to pray for John Chau's family and friends, the 7 fishermen who were arrested, the Indian officials, and of course the Sentinelese!! Make every effort to use this as an opportunity to share and live the Gospel, especially to those who hate us. Thank you Grace Community Church for sharing so powerfully.
Yes we will
Grace community is a cult.they teach lordship salvation
Simple, calm, excellent teaching! Thank you!
Pray that my love for Jesus grows more....
John Chau obeyed the command given by our Lord Jesus Christ.
@Be sorry but your wrong. There are people who would give their lives so people could find theirs. Christ did it and chau was answering the call so that those people who you claim live in paradise, could inherit an incorruptible paradise.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:15 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/mrk.16.15.KJV
That's the good news that everyone should hear. Christ died for you so that your sin debt was satisfied with God.
@Be your comment is the reason why people like chau risk their lives.
@Be no I am not. I am displaying how important it is to get this message out to a people who live in denial of their need for forgiveness.
@Be we are all sinners and come short of the glory of God, even Christians, I totally agree with you. I am the worse of sinners undeserving of the grace given to me, but if Christ can change a wretch like me and give me joy unspeakable, he can do the same for anyone.
@Be well let's see, how many people have they killed that only meant to come in peace? If i took both your dog and cat and killed them, would you not have contempt for me? You knocked on my door and I shot you, would there be no justice for your death? The only thing that Christianity does for a rebellious person is reveal their true nature. You can not tell me that there things you have done in your life that you aren't proud about.
As for the god or gods they may worship, you speak so liberal as if gods are like sneakers. Tell me what you worship and I will tell you who you are. We all worship something; sports, movies, tv shows, fashion, collectibles, games etc. A god that does not answer back is no god at all.
let be frank, you are using a poor defense inorder to justify your own dislike towards Christians. Turning their home into hotels? I'm sure if you wanted to, you can look up 3rd world settlements that have received Christ as their lord and saviors and they are just as poor as they were before they made that choice., the only difference is that they maybe poor but they are rich in spirit. I will pray for you, Christ died for people like you and I, rebellious by nature.
just wanted what was the book he is reading regarding Harris. thank you
The name of the book is, John G Paton. The autobiography of the Pioneer Missionary to the New Hebrides (Vanuatu) A very compelling read, like no other and I have read many books. I am currently reading Margaret Paton- Letters from the South Seas.
Thus fell JOHN WILLIAMS - ‘the Apostle of Polynesia’ - a man who had won the most splendid reputation perhaps of any missionary since the days of the great Apostle of the Gentiles … died a martyr on that ever memorable day, NOVEMBER TWENTIETH, 1839 … and now in glory shines as the stars for ever and ever (Gordon, ed. 1863: 101).
The death of John Williams and James Harris on the beach at Dillon’s Bay, Erromango, in 1839 (see Chapter 2) was a pivotal moment in the history of the New Hebrides (now Vanuatu). This event crystallised the reputation of indigenous Melanesians as hostile and inherently dangerous. The New Hebrides were characterised as a place of fear, black magic, and cannibalism (e.g. American Sunday School Union 1844; Copeland 1878). At the same time, this moment provided a rallying point for missionaries determined to ‘bring light to dark isles’ in the region. Thus began a century or so of mission labour in the New Hebrides, resulting in the widespread conversion of Melanesian people to Christianity (indigenous ni-Vanuatu identified as 86 per cent Christian in the most recent census; Vanuatu National Statistics Office 2009: 25).
www.desiringgod.org/messages/you-will-be-eaten-by-cannibals-lessons-from-the-life-of-john-g-paton
We all living in the last days and all the sign already fulfilled yes All the prophecy about the sign of the last days but quess what I believe the only thing left and that is for the gospel to reach the 4 corners of the earth ,by watching this gentleman died from that tribe it was a sign that yes the gospel hasn't reach the 4 corners of the earth. But yes it's almost there so Repent people ,time is very near... make right with God before it too late .Blessed this young gentleman, like what Jesus says they may kill our body but not our soul . Yes He is definetly going to be in the right hand of God.
I prayed for these people years ago. I was surprised how viral this went, but maybe God can use this to communicate the Gospel. At first, I thought he was foolish, but maybe he was God's chosen because he was willing to give his life for the Gospel.
It was this story that got me interested in learning about other missionaries that have gone to take the gospel to tribal people. I've always been Christian, but did not grow up in the church and hadn't heard of any of the well known stories of missionaries.
So with John Chau's story going viral, and people still talking about it years later, I believe it could very well lead many who are not Christian to look deeper into the work of past missionaries and into Christianity. Who knows how many may come to accept Christ and have salvation because of hearing about John Chau? Many who argue against him may yet come to Christ through him.
A lot of unbelievers would also be surprised to see hoe the lives of many people are greatly improved even from a secular perspective after an entire people group comes to Jesus. I'm thinking of tribes that still live day to day in much the same way they did before. But no longer kill their own people or those of other tribes like they did before.
My opinion on missionaries is that they go to these countries, islands wherever they go to conform people to their way of thinking/living and that is not right. You cant just go into anyone's house and start dictating Anything. If you believe in any religion you have been mislead and fear is at the root of it whether you acknowledge it or not.
You say you're saved, saved from what hell ? As far as I know there is no hell, that's just been fed to the masses, mind control, think my people.
Jesus spoke of hell more than anyone else.
@fayelewis and that makes it true ?
@@JorgeLopez-le4xe Yes, unless you think that Jesus Christ was a liar or a lunatic.
@@fayelewis5476 I just dont believe in the bible, it was written by man for man, control purposes, I'm sure you dont see it but hey I'm not here to change your mind.
@Tiffany WeaverFacts are important to me.
In AD 1947 the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in the area of Qumran in Israel. Various scrolls date anywhere from the 5th century BC to the 1st century AD. Historians believe that Jewish scribes maintained the site to preserve God’s Word and to protect the writings during the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. The Dead Sea Scrolls represent nearly every book of the Old Testament, and comparisons with more recent manuscripts show them to be virtually identical-the main deviations are the spellings of some individuals’ names and various numbers quoted in Scripture.
The Dead Sea Scrolls are a testimony to the accuracy and preservation of the Old Testament and give confidence that the Old Testament we have today is the same Old Testament used by Jesus. In fact, Luke records a statement made by Jesus regarding the assemblage of the Old Testament: “For this reason also the wisdom of God said, ‘I will send to them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute, so that the blood of all the prophets, shed since the foundation of the world, may be charged against this generation, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the house of God; yes, I tell you, it shall be charged against this generation’” (Luke 11:49-51, emphasis added). Jesus confirmed the 39 books of the Old Testament in these verses. Abel’s death is found in Genesis and Zechariah’s in 2 Chronicles-the first and last books of the Hebrew Bible.
Compilation of the Original New Testament
Quotations from the early church fathers allow the reconstruction of almost the entire New Testament as it is found today. For example, Clement (c. AD 95) quotes from eleven New Testament books, Ignatius (c. AD 107) quotes from nearly every New Testament book, and Polycarp (a disciple of John, c. AD 110) quotes from seventeen New Testament books. Using the early church fathers’ quotes, the entire New Testament can be pieced together, with the exception of 20-27 verses, most of them from 3 John. Such evidence witnesses to the fact that the New Testament was recognized far earlier than the Council of Carthage in AD 397 and that the New Testament we have today is the same as what was written 2,000 years ago.
Third, there is no literary rival in the ancient world to the number of manuscript copies and the early dating of the New Testament. There are 5,300 Greek, 10,000 Latin, and 9,000 miscellaneous copies of the New Testament extant today, and more continue to be unearthed via archaeology. The combination of early dating and the enormous number of New Testament copies causes historical experts such as Sir Frederic Kenyon (former director and principal librarian of the British Museum) to say, “The interval, then, between the dates of original composition and the earliest extant evidence becomes so small as to be in fact negligible, and the last foundation for any doubt that the Scriptures have come down to us substantially as they were written has now been removed. Both the authenticity and the general integrity of the books of the New Testament may be regarded as finally established.”
www.gotquestions.org/original-Bible.html
The Bible encourages you to see if the claims are true.
He wanted to introduce them to Jesus and they returned the favor
Meme 100
Like... So I've been thinking of going somewhere secluded. I started forming a group of people who would join me when we all finish our schooling. I read about a secluded an island off on Indian in my school textbook. I put a big mark on it and said "There". When this came out I was upset... I thought "Now everyone is going to go there. Is God trying to say I shouldn't go there?". I'm not sure because maybe his sudden halt at sharing the gospel is actually confirmation I should go there and encouragement? I still want to go as long as I can... I'm just not sure if I am good enough for the job. So far I have not been able to lead anyone to God. It's kind of troubling. Maybe if I was super successful? Like what am I doing wrong? I even pray for people to be saved. I am not saying God isn't answering me. I get answers to prayers for so so many things just not for people's souls. I'll have to see how things turn out...
@@troig43 You know we have genetic tests for diseases now. They can scan for any diseases even carrier diseases. It seems technology and medicine of our days can ensure the person who contacts them is healthy in every sense. I know they are fear mongering on social media but they forget we literally have genetic tests, tests for all sorts of diseases and so for... So if you're so worried think about a baby. A baby might be more susceptible to diseases. We don't don't forbid anyone to go near our newborn babies in the hospital even though they have never received a vaccine. It just means one should be aware of their current health. No reason to fear.
@ShiroP Yeah I'm not sure about that. Why can children die from things their parents never died from? By now we should be immune to almost everything. That is just one example. They're not the only people isolated. Inuits are pretty isolated and so are other island. No one is afraid of of talking to Inuits. Not to mention we don't know exactly how long people have been isolated just estimates. I already mentioned DNA testing. We are looking out for their eternities. Just relax and enjoy the day. Feel free to ask me about God or follow this channel. Your eternity is just as important
@ShiroP We be careful no worries. Take the right precautions and all is well. I'm already getting a DNA test for Christmas. Anyways my dear commenter. You should know God made this world. Mankind fell into sin unable to save itself. We have all sinned. God is the judge who will judge everyone. The wages of sin is the second death of hell. God so loved you He sent His son to die in your place. He died not just to save from hell but from blindness and the power of sin. Everyone must repent and believe the savior. Everyone must repent and believe. Repentance does not mean "fix yourself" or "be self righteous". It means surrender to the only savior Jesus Christ. He will change your heart and set you free from the penalty and power of sin. When your heart is changed you will have new desires to fight sin and love God.
It is Not: Faith + Works (works salvation) = Justification.
It is Not: Faith = Justification - Works (easybelievism)
Yes definitely is: Faith = Justification + Works (sanctification).
Bless you!
Why can't European missionaries leave people alone? Since when missionaries going to other people land worked out for the natives? Africa? Native Americans? Here's a idea, leave the people alone!!!
For the sake of what is at stake for eternity, no, the truly loving one CANNOT leave them alone... :)
You are funny. He could be considered North American or Asian, but certainly in no sense European. Knowing something before commenting about it would be an intelligent move ;).
I know one who won’t be bothering anyone again
@@nhnj7543 , I know that if you tried the shit that the Sentinelese did on Mr. Chau, not only would YOU not be bothering myself, but that you would also not be bothering ANYONE ELSE ever again.
“Judge all the thing from their own safe and easy distance”
I think it the reason why i feel a little scare and hoping J.A Chau are moving by flesh or has a profess faith,because i am scaring myself being like so hard like him.
So i seem like i am not safe because i love myself more than Christ.
And because i am scaring about people judge more than Lord,so i want to stand with what people said more than the Lord said.
Pray for his parents,thier son is a martyr who dislplayed one of the rarest courage in today's selfish world.Johns name is forever written in the lambs book of Life.A faithful martyr who set an example in this filthy world because we know persecution is going to increase much more in the coming days.
Pray for the Indian people as well. Remember our God can move mountains, may he move men's hearts to know him.
Done
Powerful 💪
Amen!!!
Which book is it?
Niv
@@yungblade7 I think Abraham Koshy is asking which book was Pastor Conway reading about William Carey/ Mr. and Mrs. Gordon? (The one in the beginning in the preview clip)
After researching I believe it is "John G. Paton: Missionary to the New Hebrides" (an Autobiography)
John Paton. You need to read this unforgettable book. The first two missionaries to New Hebrides (men) were killed on the beach, cooked and eaten. John went to New Hebrides (Vanuatu) with his pregnant wife. A few months after arriving his wife gave birth and she and her infant son both died. John slept on top of their grave so the people would not dig up their bodies and eat them.
The people thought the greatest thing was to befriend someone and then eventually lure them to their deaths and eat them. As I recall, they actually thought Judas was the hero in the story of Jesus. They actually cheered for Judas. John Paton witnessed the beheading of a missionary and when the missionary's wife came out they beheaded her, too. John was spared.
I have read many, many, books. But this one I would come home from work and went right back to reading it.
Truly an amazing story. You cannot die until God says so.
No English subtitles ?
Not yet.
Anyone around here in a non-argumentative mood? I suggest praying that the Lord will give us all a heart for those unreached and that those who did what they did, will be overcome by the saving grace and love of the Lord. He did it often before! (cf 1956)
God also did it with Vanuatu and John Paton. In the video the book about John Paton is being read.
Williams and Harris were clubbed to death, cooked and eaten before John Paton arrived.
A missionary couple were beheaded while he was there. (The Gordon's)
Eventually almost the entire island was converted.
This is only chapter one for the Sentinelese.
They need our daily prayers.
@linda green Hey Linda, not sure what you researched and read. And no, I have not read Desmont Tutu and never will. He was one of the reasons I left the Protestant Church. He may himself Christian, but acts as an enemy. Of course, your hate and bitterness gainst Christians is obvious. But it seems that your hate has clouded your understanding. Not everyone acting in the name of Christ is a Christion. Those who follow Christ's teaching and ways are. But they are not the murderers, rapists and land grappers. If you call criminals Christians, just because they wear a jacket with "Christians" on it, your reasearch has been faulty. Why do you hate Christ?
Does Romans 1:20 apply to this situation in anyway? It does seem to me that we Christians' want to westernize most of the people we try to reach. Am I wrong? Look what happened to the American Indian when missionaries came to share the gospel,
Does everything else in the Bible apply to anything in the modern world these days? First of all, not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven, so not every Christian in "we Christians" is known by God. I read one of the twitter posts of a girl that was against what John Allan Chau did, she claims to have been a missionary as well and claims to have worked with orphans for God, and yet by the end of it she claims "We were doing it to tick off some list of how many we saved, but by the end of it we don't even remember any of their names." or "I did all of this just to feel good, warm inside" (Paraphrased) comparing this vain missionary work to what Chau is doing. She says this was all an attempt to "colonize" by a white male, similar to your comment.
This isn't a political matter ma'am, this is a life and death, soul and eternity kind of situation and a battle we're supposed to be facing. When Paul the apostle was imprisoned for over half his life for Christ, beaten and alone in his cell, he didn't try to colonize Rome, Galatia, Corinth or Phillipi, he didn't have the resources or the motivation to make nations act the way he did, he wanted these people to walk in the footsteps of Christ so they could live with him in the world to come.
If we're gonna look at every group that claimed to be Christians that went off to commit genocides instead of looking at the Bible and real examples of what a Christian is, then we're always going to be far from the truth and far from the main point.
@@jacknapier7414 thanks for your reply
Did missionaries come to bring the gospel to the Native Americans? Or did conquerors come to conquer and colonize a new land? New to themselves, not to those already living here.
I think we have a terrible history in the US, and in much of the world. And not only in western nations. But I don't think the original pilgrims came to the US as missionaries.
Are you familiar with any of the missionaries that have shared the gospel and have not colonized the people or brought a western culture to them?
I agree with you that colonialism and westernizing other cultures is wrong. Especially doing so in the name of Jesus. But I think these are the only stories a lot of people have ever heard about missionaries, so they think that's all there is. And it is not.
what was the title of the book he( PTR TIM) is reading?
The name of the book is, John G Paton. The autobiography of the Pioneer Missionary to the New Hebrides (Vanuatu) A very compelling read, like no other and I have read many books. I am currently reading Margaret Paton- Letters from the South Seas.
Thus fell JOHN WILLIAMS - ‘the Apostle of Polynesia’ - a man who had won the most splendid reputation perhaps of any missionary since the days of the great Apostle of the Gentiles … died a martyr on that ever memorable day, NOVEMBER TWENTIETH, 1839 … and now in glory shines as the stars for ever and ever (Gordon, ed. 1863: 101).
The death of John Williams and James Harris on the beach at Dillon’s Bay, Erromango, in 1839 (see Chapter 2) was a pivotal moment in the history of the New Hebrides (now Vanuatu). This event crystallised the reputation of indigenous Melanesians as hostile and inherently dangerous. The New Hebrides were characterised as a place of fear, black magic, and cannibalism (e.g. American Sunday School Union 1844; Copeland 1878). At the same time, this moment provided a rallying point for missionaries determined to ‘bring light to dark isles’ in the region. Thus began a century or so of mission labour in the New Hebrides, resulting in the widespread conversion of Melanesian people to Christianity (indigenous ni-Vanuatu identified as 86 per cent Christian in the most recent census; Vanuatu National Statistics Office 2009: 25).
www.desiringgod.org/messages/you-will-be-eaten-by-cannibals-lessons-from-the-life-of-john-g-paton
North sentinelese are there for more than 60,000 years without your man made god Jesus.
what about your man-made 33 millions gods?
@@joayy6406 good point
@@joayy6406 But we are not converting someone with a bag of rice or going somewhere to convert someone..
...Who don't even know our language or who r not immune to modern pathogens
@@Ashishsingh-no6hm neither we are converting anyone with a rice bag,,can you proof it? and what about those Hare krishna groups doing in America?are you blind?they are converting them to hindus will you ignore them?
@@Ashishsingh-no6hm Good reply brother
2 Corinthians 4:12 | So then, death is at
work in us, 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐭 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝐲𝐨𝐮
[blood of saints flow to seed more saints]
deep in jungles of India-untouched by
civilization-natives killed #missionaries
Next generation are #Christians
White man does not equal Christian, quite the contrary actually looking at how western countries practice the faith.
did John speak their language? How could he hope to reach them without speaking their language. I understand Jim Eliot spoke the language of the Huaorani people?
Deborah missionaries prepare for their journey. I don’t think anyone says if he did or didn’t speak their language. I would only imagine with a man heart like John would be prepared but honestly not for sure.
@@allenbartee7098 We will know when we see him in heaven. He will tell us the whole story.
@@troig43 you don't need to know a language to spread the gospel... The apostles shared the gospel to different nation's without knowing the language.... And were martyred thereafter!!! So these story is above human perceptions and thoughts!!!
@@troig43 well there is!!! You need to open your eyes to see them!!!
@@troig43 lol why he need his body.. He already got a brand new body up there in heaven... !!!!
I feel sorry for the pastor but that island is very much under the sovereignity of india....
Our stories don't end when our earthly life ends. We might not know in our generation how John Chau's story ends.
When Jim Elliot and the four other men he was with were killed by the people they had gone to; many of the people did not agree with the killing. They later accepted Jim's wife and one of the other wives who lived among them for a time and shared the gospel with them.
The people came to accept the gospel, and chose to make some changes in their own lives because of this. they kept most of their traditional ways. But ended the killings of their women and children as they came to see each other as God sees us. And they've chosen to accept salvation in Christ and to pass these things down to their children.
We don't know what the Sentinelese think of John Chau today. We don't know what they say about him. He did make brief contact with some of the people on the beach the one day. They could easily have killed him that day, but they chose not to.
Deborah I totally agree.
Finally someone uses bible truth instead of just opinion. Great word. My prayers go out to his family and close ones. I would encourage Christians to read his journal entries. He was not out of his mind like some say. He really loved God and loved those people.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
I pray that everyone who reads this will accept Him who loves us more than we can ever comprehend. He has transformed me and so many others that I know. I’m eternally grateful ❤️❤️.
Those men in the Island sound like the Assyrians(vicious men), am glad that John had a burden for those souls(Romans9:1) as a christian I believe he is closer to the throne. "When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne." Rev6:9
You guys are maddd!
Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures was buried and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures 1Corinthians 15:3
John chau: Here is 2000 years old books
Sentaliese: Here is 60000 years old bow and arrow. Meet Jesus now.
Jim Elliot did something similar. The media and people sentiment was different.
So many people gave their life for the gospel. The media and people should not mock.
They survived 60000 year without jesus ....I think they could live some more thousand of year....
No offence
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No one needs Jesus to survive. We need Jesus to protect us from the holy wrath of God.
@@Zxcvbnm9531 ok no offence
@@Kareem_da_Beam Our Gods protect them we don't need your Jesus.
Ashish, they went to hell without knowing Christ who died for their sin & so will anyone who rejects Christ & refuse to repent of their sins.
@@xyzxyz9709 Repent of your wicked heart! If you reject Christ who died for your sins, you will perish forever. That's the truth whether you believe it or not
With due respect Pastor I think you need to learn geography you said the island is to far to become India’s sovereign domain? ( 700mls) , so what about Guam and some islands there in the Pacific thousands of miles away from America , they are American domains as far as I know ..and with regards to this tribe all I can say is , leave them alone ! This people survived for thousands of years in isolation and without outside help ,they don’t need your religion.going there will only bring disease and death to those islanders..
Paxion202 that’s what you believe. Notice your imposing your beliefs on others. Ironic.
They don't need religion. They need Christ.
Gerard Perry well they don’t need Christ either
Mark Garnett I don’t believe in organise religion it’s all about power, control and money and more money
Paxion, from watching Televangelists and denominational religious hacks I get where you are coming from. Yes there are the fake and counterfeit religious charlatans out there. Any time there is a false there will always be a real. I hope that one day you find that which is truly real.
If I didn't worry for these people I would suggest sending more missionaries
Hell No
Just respect other religions and cultures minding their own businesses
Jesus calls us to preach the word to all nations so that everyone can have a chance at salvation, not just the ones who want to hear it. Are we supposed to disobey an all-powerful unchanging God for the sake of fickle men whose power can be stripped away at any time for the sake of their feelings which are just as fickle?
@@christianrpgserieschannel8770 "Are we supposed to disobey an all-powerful unchanging God"
@@christianrpgserieschannel8770 tell you're all powerful God to save the children that are dieing from cancer or protect them from people that hurt them. O yeah he doesn't do that some God
Why start a topic without checking out the background information so you don’t waste time asking questions, then talking about that it’s the circles she moves in etc. what she said is every where, the comments are under all the news reports of this topic! You make it sound like it’s just her perspective which isn’t very nice
@@mtngirlbunny9290 thank you for your letter. I was so happy to see this video come up, and it was such a powerful message. When Tim was saying at the end about his blood being spilled there and those evil forces have no show now. I was rejoicing and crying at the same time. It was so inspiring and encouraging Tim did an awesome job. Bless you :)
Blaaqphoenix yes but he knew he was going to do a video on this letter so he needed to check out the facts she presented before starting the video. You seem to have gotten very offended for nothing much. That’s a religious spirit!
MtnGirl & Bunny thanks for explaining. It’s the first time I came across him but because it started of so long winded and the video is very long I didn’t listen to the whole thing.
The whole point of John’s life is that there is something worse than death. So he was willing to risk his own life to rescue others from something far worse. And he could risk his own life because he knew his own risking and dying would work for him “an eternal weight of glory” (2 Corinthians 4:17).
We are not playing games. When I preach that risk is right, I know what I am doing. When I say, “God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in him - especially in suffering,” I know what suffering may mean. When I say, “Fear not, you can only be killed” (Matthew 10:28), I take seriously the words of Jesus: “Some of you they will put to death. . . . But not a hair of your head will perish” (Luke 21:16, 18).
www.desiringgod.org/articles/when-we-send-a-person-to-his-death
Faye Lewis and risk there lives too you idiot!
@@bigpopalapa.2219 God bless you.
@Tiffany Weaver John Chau had 13 vaccinations before he went.
Jesus Christ can return anytime He wants to. God is not beholden to anyone.
It sounds like you are a scoffer.
2 Peter 3:4 First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.
4“Where is the promise of His coming?” they will ask. “Ever since our fathers fell asleep, everything continues as it has from the beginning of creation.”
You can live your life with any knowledge of Jesus of the Bible. Millions have.
Spending eternity in hell isn't worth it.
“There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell. No soul that seriously and constantly desires joy will ever miss it. Those who seek find. Those who knock it is opened.”
― C.S. Lewis, The Great Divorce
God bless you.
@Tiffany Weaver There is plenty of evidence for the truth of Christianity. All you need is a humble heart.
You shouldn't base your hopes and dreams on my hopes and dreams.
You were made in the image of God with infinite worth and value. You are a soul. Your soul is eternal. You will spend eternity in heaven or hell.
@Tiffany Weaver The BIble is the evidence.
Praise the LORD GOD CHRIST JESUS for HIS mercy in salvation of indigenous PPL still -Amen
Be aware of not all "so called
self-claimed christian" are true christian. There are more children of
devil who are disgusided/self-claimed as christian. Read Bible; word of GOD to be able to get discernment the true christian. Just some of the word of GOD in Bible below :-
John 2:44,
You are of "your" father the devil, and the desires of
"your" father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning,
and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speak a lie, he speaks from "his own resources", for he is a liar and
the father of it. (-New King James)
John 2:23,
- - - You are from beneath I AM from above. You are of this world, I AM not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you
do not believe that I AM HE, you will die in your sins. 2 Peter 2:1, But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the LORD who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
Revelation 16:13-15,
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the outh of the false prophet. Fr they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of GOD Almighty. Behold, I AM coming as a thief, blessed is he who watchesm and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.
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1 Peter 4;16,
Yet if anyone suffers as a christian (TRULY), let him not
be ashamed, but let him glorify GOD in this matter.
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John 15:14-17,
You are MY friends if you do whatever I command yu. No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from MY FATHER I have made known to you. You did not choose ME, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the FATHER in MY name HE may give you. These things I command you, that you love one another.
Matthew 28:18-20,
And JESUS came and spoke to them saying "All authority has been given to ME in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT, teaching them to observe all things that I have commended you; and lo, I AM with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen
1 Peter 4:11,
If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of GOD. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which GOD supplies, that in all things GOD may be glorified through JESUS CHRIST, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever, Amen.
1 Peter 4:16,
Yet if anone suffers as a christian (TRULY ), let him not be ashamed, but let him glority GOD in this matter.
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Revelation 22:18-21,
HE who testifies to these things says "Surely I AM coming quickly"
Amenm even so, come, LORD JESUS ! The grace of our LORD JESUS CHRIST be with
you all. Amen.
Fun fact: God created man long before man invented religion, think about that for a moment.
Prove it with evidence?
@@DMalltheway its a fact. There is nothing to prove. Just look for dates
Vikas Kyatannawar evidence please?
@@DMalltheway Good
@@rijojohn7218 Good? That’s not evidence.
They know God. So survived from tsunami and living there for 60000 years. Live them alone. They are god's gift to India. Don't disturb them.
YAHWEH EL ELOHIM tells us to convert the lost, even the Sentinelese, so shut your Satanic pie hole, Allu Sekhar!
@@paxhumana2015 that's how you get killed when you mess around with wrong people... 😂 Moral of the story never try certain things in India 😂😂
@@namev5 at least He will not end up in hell like you
Absolutely nasty.
natural selection did great things
I hope that in 200 years humanity will have advanced to a point were we don't need religion. He had no business there he broke the law could have wiped out an entire civilization. A civilization that is older than your religion I believe that everyone should be free to believe what ever makes them happy. And if they had wanted to be Christian and could make that choice it be different. But his presence was dangerous to everyone he was selfish and arrogant. Even his father was not happy about what he did and blamed the group that talked him into it.
We don't need "religion ", we need a relationship with God/ Jesus! In 200 years, you won't need religion or have a relationship with God if you don't renew your mind today! John 3:16 & "Romans Road to Salvation"!!! As far as his Mr. Chau's father, JESUS said...Mark 3:33-35 🙏🏽🦁🙌🏽!!!
HOW ARROGANT. YOU DON'T NEED BOLDNESS YOU NEED "LEAVE THEM ALONE' IN YOU. PAGANS.
Only fools says there is no God , the last thing left in all the sign of the last days is for the gosble to reach the 4 corners of the earth. This is a warning to all believers .it's almost there, take heed , wake up , pray and quard yourself everyday with the word of God and the led of the Holy Spirit. For what the bible says , Jesus said some of you may die because of His name but not to worry because die in Christ is a gain. They may kill your body but not your soul. Plus however these people think or the world this is a fulfilling the prophecy that All prophets and our Saviour have told... if I were you I will repent and get ready ,Our Saviour is by the door now it's almost time for His children to meet him. Glory to the Lamb that was slain because of our sin. HE ALREADY BOUGHT US WITH THE PRICE ,YES THAT PRICE IS HIS BLOOD. BOUGHT US FROM WHAT....BOUGHT US TO BE FREE FROM1).GOD'S WRATH .2)SATAN. 3)SIN 4)MAN AND THAT IS US AND OTHERS .
WE ARE NOT OF OUR OWN WE BELONG TO CHRIST SO AGAIN DIE IS GAIN. THE GOSPEL WILL SOON REACH THERE EVEN IF THEY DONT EXCEPT IT BUT THE PROPHECY OF THE BIBLE FULFILLED. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE AND REJECT Jesus as your Saviour you know very well where you goin to be in the last days so my dear ...Jesus is real , and He loves you so much. You still have a chance to turn to Him . No matter how bad, and heavy our sin is ,He will wash it and forgive us but not only that Jesus will never remembered our sins anymore . God bless you dear.
Are you trying to call US pagans?