TENET Explained!
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TENET was one of the most ambitious films in recent years. Not to mention confusing for many! We're going to break it down and explain the Inversion concepts, character timelines and overall story.
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The Red & Blue identifiers where a ‘metaphor’ (kinda) of the doppler effect where we have red shift and blue shift. in astrophysics, red shift is where galaxies are moving away from our own, and blue shift when galaxies are moving towards are own, blue shift rarely happens as the universe is expanding so red shift is the pro dominant shift in our universe. So thats why time inversion is represented in blue as time is flowing towards the birth of the universe whereas red is flowing away and time is increasing. Great podcast so far.
Wow thanks for the info, so fascinating
Let’s goo!!! Been waiting for this one!!
LFG
I am a lucid dreamer and one the first things I learned how to do with LD 35 years ago was to take advantage of the opportunities provided when the brain relaxes its hold on the illusion of linear time. I enjoyed Inception which isn’t the best movie about this topic, that belongs to Waking Life and Vanilla Sky. I have a book coming in 2024 about my travels outside of theses restrictions in out of body and lucid dreams. Loving your podcasts as a lifelong cinephile.
Tenet definitely doesn’t get the respect that it deserves. This was my favorite movie in a long time
This definitely made me understand Tenet a little more thanks guys! Guys rock
Great to hear!
I went to see this film when it was released in UK cinemas earlier this year, I loved it personally so I’ve been looking forward to you guys breaking it down 🤙🏻🤙🏻
It's so good!
I'd like to mention the outfits and locations in this movie are FIRE! Remind's me of "The Talented Mr Ripley."
Needed this review for the parts I missed/had me confused, the Maximilien thing flew over my head. Thanks ya'll
I also thought the convo with the scientist was so important!
Good call! Nolan loves to do his high society/Bond styles like in Inception
Great breakdown guys. Love seeing people talk intelligently about this movie.
Glad you enjoyed it Kyle!
this is the best tenet breakdown ive seen.
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I love the concept of tenet. I love nolan's orginality.
I’m actually glad I did read the reviews saying it was hard to hear the dialogue because I have tinnitus. I didn’t like the slander because I enjoyed the movie it just meant I had to listen more intensively instead of constantly analyzing.
Well said
Thank you! Always a pleasure to watch your podcasts🤗
Thanks Alima!
One of my favourite moments in the movie is when sator finds the protagonist watching him open up his capsule on the yacht. And he is trying to find out who the protagonist is working for. Sator says 'we live in a twilight world' this is the phrase that the CIA use to identify agents in the field (in the movie) . The phrase that is meant to be said in return is 'there are no friends at dusk' but when sator says this to the protagonist, the protagonist replies 'is that Whitman?'. Also the reason sator knows the phrase because he has an in with cia and that's how he gets his cia suicide pill.
Me finding your channel is definitely the best thing that’s came out of 2020 for me
THANK YOU KJ!
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! everything makes so much more sense.
Glad we could help!!
I just watched tenet yesterday, what are the chances lmafoooo
LOL
Same here
Yessir been waiting for this!! you guys have a blessed Christmas thanks for this gem
Same to you!
this helped so much! thanks guys!! :)
Happy to hear Ashley!
I still don’t understand where the people that were fighting in the Stalsk-12 final battle came from. Were they just there already to bury the algorithm?
They were Sator's soldiers yes. Remember, the Stalsk-12 battle happens in the opening of the film as well at the same time as the orchestra bombing
Saw you guys first on Tiktok now I watch all the time while I’m working. Keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you!
11:53 Atomic makeup of oxygen is inverted so it makes it carbon monoxide? I was totally invested till I heard that line, what are you saying bro? That's not right!😭😭😭
Guess that’s not scientifically accurate 😅🤣
I enjoy watching you guys so much! So cool to see the growth, been here since March 😎
Dylan you're the best!
I know I’m late but I only just watched TeneT. Great episode and great movie 👍 👍
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Such a good episode! You guys are the people I listen to discuss movies because you clearly just love movies 🤟 hell yeah
Thanks!
Dudes! Loved this episode. Got me thinking about aspects of the movie I hadn’t considered.
So glad you enjoyed it Rory!
Whole theories about Max is Neil seems improbable. At best Max could be the scientist which created algorithm and turnstile. Him deciding to split algorithm could be the "man in crystaline throwing a switch and Armagedon is both triggered and avoided", from then on Protagonist started mission of saving the algorithm in past. Neil could be nerd which happily follows him. So Max could be a man which want to save his generation via inversion thus destroying past generations (possibly holding grudge against Sator).
For sure
Been waiting for this since the first episode. Also, great explanation and helped me understand what Inversion is. Always love the content and keep up the excellent work
Glad you enjoyed it!
Could you guys do a guy ritchie podcast with the gentleman and snatch
Sure!
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Tenet is a True Masterpiece!!!
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i had no idea that max is neil. I’m still not sure. because what other reason do you have other than they look familiar? because the way neil explains it, he said, it’s the end of a friendship but i don’t know, i understand why. but is it confirmed or just a theory by you guys?
It’s not totally confirmed. BUT, the French spelling of Maximilien can be used as a clue, take the final four letters “lien” and invert them, then you get “Neil”, plus his accent is like Kat’s, he can speak Estonian like Sator.
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ well i’m glad i watched this podcast and learned that theory, you guys are very underrated and have a a lot of knowledge.
Keep up the good work guys, fantastic content. I can't wait for more!
Thank you Adam!
Been waiting for this one!! Great stuff guys
Awesome! Thank you!
I love these so much keep it up guys
Thanks Eli!
I'm literally exhausted just listening to the explanation of this movie.
Lol we needed multiple beers to get through it ourselves
A great one as usual
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At the 45:10 minute mark, you mention the Protagonist is doing "chin-ups". However, I think the BETTER term is PULLUP. I say this because pullup is also a palindrome, and I think it was intentionally put there. Along with the "747" aircraft. There are more than a few others :-)
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HOW DID KAT HEAL HER BULLET WOUND??!!!! they did NOT invert her wound.
kat healing her bullet wound just makes absolutely no sense to me. can someone explain plz? ok, so kat was shot by a inverted bullet. she had a bullet wound if they didn't do anything she would die. they brought her into the inverted world. WHY WOULD THE WOUND START HEALING SUPER FAST IN THE INVERTED WORLD? raiders said when they're inverted, their bodies are still aging forwards, they're thinking forwards and their bodies are moving forwards too. This is evident when Protagonist goes into inverted world for the first time. he walks forwards, gets in a car and drives forwards, while his whole environment is moving backwards, aka inverted, so I'm assuming his body, his skin is not part of the environment. This means, when someone is inverted, everything about them from their perspective is still moving forwards: they're aging older (they don't become younger), they're doing their actions forwards. so...................... why would Kat heal her bullet wound ultra-fast if she's inverted? and we learned that the bullet was never unshot. she revealed her scar on the yacht, meaning the bullet did enter her, she DID get shot, she just managed to heal super fast. if the wound was inverted, then she would not have the scar.
WHY WOULD SHE GAIN WOLVERINE'S SUPER FAST HEALING IF SHE'S INVERTED? THAT MAKES NO SENSE!!!
you guys might bring up Protagonist's stab wound. here's the history of the stab wound. First he looks at his arm, there's a scar. then it starts bleeding. then it disappears because he gets unstabbed the suit version of Protagonist. this kinda sorta makes sense because the scar is moving backwards in time, so the scar's history is: scar-->bleeding-->nonexistent. Protagonist's wound never healed, it just inverted (essentially Protagonist's mind and body are always moving forward in time from his perspective, but his wound is moving backwards in time). This is DIFFERENT from Kat's bullet wound. Kat wound's history is: bleeding-->super fast healing-->completely healed with a scar. Meaning Kat's wound never inverted, it HEALED because she ended up with a scar.
if super fast healing is possible, then it's possible for the protagonist to revive Neil at the end of the movie. Remember the bad bald guy was about to shoot the Protagonist and the inverted Neil blocked the bullet and died? Protagonist (at the end of the movie) can go back, pick up Neil's body, bring him to a turnstile, reinvert him and then invert him again, start the super fast healing process (just like what Kat did), and then reinvert back to forward moving time, essentially healing and reviving Neil (and I'm talking about the oldest Neil who died, not the other younger versions of Neil's).
I know not everything about the Tenet makes scientific sense. The "burning becomes freezing in inverted world" makes absolutely no sense scientifically (if Protagonist's car starts burning, and you reverse it, wouldn't the fire disappear? Why would it start to freeze?), so maybe Kat gaining super fast healing while inverted is another one of those non-scientific plot device.
Fantastic podcast Raiders! Love it
Thanks!!! So Kat was in a normal timeline and hit with an inverted bullet. So when they inverted her, the bullet became reverted and the wound healed itself 👍🏻
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ hi raiders, thank you so much!!!! it makes more sense now. i'm still kinda confused on some plot points.
so hypothetically, at the end of the movie, can protagonist go on the helicopter with neil, run behind him in the underground place, wait for neil to get shot in the head, and then carry his corpse into the turnstile, and invert the bullet in neil's head, and revive him? or is neil dead permanently?
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ Hmm, inverted Sator shot the normal Kate. Then Tenet team invert themselves and Kate. Inverted radiation stabilize wound enough to Neil can perform a surgery to completely heal her.
There are so many fan theories regarding forwards and rearwards time flow and how simplistic those theories work in their statements but many forgetting one main thing. A radiation from turnstile machine which makes turnstile works in allowing objects to go invert in time. Those radiation change entropy of objects, this is why inverted bullet is so devastating. Inverting Kate stabilize her wounds, nothing more, there is no "healing process of Protagonist arm"situation here. Inverting Kate they're stabilizing wounds from inverted bullet and latter we see Neil performing operation which completely heal her. Trick here lies in radiation which affect entropy of object. Inverting objects allows flow in time in which probability of things which happen in process is 100% determined. Kate is destined to survive the inverted bullet and latter show on yacht, she dying would create paradox. Also Kate was shot from inverted Sator. The only time she was inverted is the moments when she was healing from wounds.
You guys should do good time vs uncut gems cause there both great movies and made by the safdie brothers
Yes!
Thank you!
You bet!
FINALLY watched this movie. And FINALLY got to this to this episode. I called it on a few plot twists but was still blown away.Also couldn’t stop thinking about how I needed to listen to this episode as soon as the movie was over 😂
Hell yes!!! 🙌🙌
Yes. Yes.yes.
YES
could you make a podcast on the narnia adaptations?
Oh great idea!
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ let's GOOOOOOO
foukd you on TikTok.. you guys are great!!
As always great podcast
Thanks for listening
Great episode man, I watched the whole thing 👍
Thanks Danny!
26:58 OMG that's crazy
yaa baby
Let's goooooo
Came out on my birthday, watched it first thing first! Great movie in my opinion
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Only thing I don’t understand is when the people from the future invert the gold as payment, why doesn’t Russian bad guy have to wait 100 years to find the gold?
Because everything inverted moves at the same speed right? So if someone inverts gold 200 years in the future, after you have moved 100 years forwards in time then the gold has also moved 100 years in time but backwards. And then you’ll find it. Or am I just dumb?
Because the gold has been inverted! So the gold traveled the 200 years to get to that point, but to Sator and us it's real time and instantaneous.
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ *headache intensifies*
One of the best podcasts
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Here From tiktok ❤️
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@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ in to 5 mins of the video, I have to say I really appreciate a throughly detailed discussion about this underrated movie. I had a hard time discussing about this movie with my friends because it was too “confusing” to them. However, this discussion is where I feel inclusive and enough appreciation for this specific movie where so many people actually enjoy hating on the story and concept of it just because they don’t understand it. Much appreciated and lots of love to you guys!
Keep up the good work ❤️
@@nuhibrahim185 thanks so much!
Kenneth b was miscast. He over acts and it totally takes me out of the scene. My only complaint
Nolan better reign it in on the esoteric subject matter.
Loved the episode and your explanation. Still think the movie sucked. And this is coming from a massive Nolan fan 😭😩 i truly wanted to like it, just think it was unnecessarily complicated just to make a "smart" movie
It's ok! You like what you like. We still love it, thanks for tuning in
Bro I watch the movie just to come and watch the podcast 🔥🔥🔥
What'd you think!?
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ thanks for answering bro 🔥🔥 I did what you said and didn’t think to much bout the reverser technology and didn’t have idea bout that Neil was the little kid 😂
@@justingarcia5307 LOL it's not confirmed but strongly insinuated for sure
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ thank you man for answering I’m here verdure the fame 😂🔥❤️ but I was thinking earlier both of you probably will become certified movie critics 🤞🏼
If Neil is inverted why doesn’t he have a mask
You’re misunderstanding. Neil inverts to the proper times and then he reverts to interact with Protagonist in the forwards timeline. They just don’t show this because it’s unnecessary. Neil spends months even years inverting to the right points to meet up with Protagonist, the consistently reverts. However, in the opening scene he is inverted and wearing the mask
@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ my brain hurts
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@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ Lmaoo real talk though i love ur guys content keep up the good work!
@@alexm2136 appreciate it 🙌
This analysis doesn’t really make sense. How can Neil be “inverted?” He’s not wearing a mask or talking backwards when he first meets Protagonist. This isn’t hard science fiction. Like the characters say, don’t think about it too much.
He’s wearing a mask and doesn’t speak when they first interact in the Opera house, watch the movie again
If you’re referring to the Diet Coke conversation, that’s they’re 2nd meeting
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I like Primer better. :)
I just watched it tonight and as per usual with every Nolan film, my brain was turned inside out😂😂 This helped and was very entertaining
Glad we could help!
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Are there actually 2 of you or is it just 1 switching spots
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@@raidersofthelostpodcast_ the suspense is killing me
THEYRE TWINS??!?
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Terribly disappointing film with a completely lacklustre interpretation of time. I spent much of the movie trying to understand what was happening, lead lazily to a disappointing ending that felt like a 200M$ pilot for a Netflix series I'll never watch.
That said, you guys killed it with the review. Love your show. Just not this film. 😅
Lol it's all good! Appreciate your opinion bud!
should of took the train much faster and can drink on the train =)